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>>769203023
They were doing fine as a socialist nation and then corruption took over. What's happening now isn't socialism. But you'll ignore and that post pictures and memes instead.
>>769203103
It's not REAL socialism. Shut up faggot, go eat a rat.
Cool. Now post some of Norway, Holland, Sweden, New Zealand, etc.
>>769203460
The government owns all the corporations in those nations? Or are there private markets?
>>769203103
Mother fucker, that's the exact problem with socialism, obviously.
>>769203647
This sort of thing could never happen with Capitalism. Could you imagine a government taking over and moneyed interests corrupting it in a capitalist economy? Crazy talk.
>>769203103
Socialism for 500, Alex.
> They were doing fine as a socialist nation and then corruption took over.
Why does socialism never work.
> Correct.
Brought up Venezuela to a berny burner and he said it must be america's fault for their situation...
>>769203761
Who said croney capatalism isn't a broken system too? The only thing that works is free markets, no regulation. But yes, socialism is much worse than croney capatalism.
>>769203889
Just sounds like the common theme is.... corruption.
>>769203581
Lol those are private companies AND there government makes profit off of oil sales. Although. .they spend more on social programs because they don't spend it on military shit..m the usa protects them
>>769203853
kill the mutherfucker
>>769203991
And it only completely annihilates which countries, again?
>>769204035
Then that ain't socialism. Socialism is the government owning the means of production.
>>769203103
I find it funny that commies think this is a valid argument against the right.
So this isn't real communism, but yet, whatever amount of socialism that was present still gave these catastrophic results. You're thereby stating that MORE socialism would've resulted in your utopia.
Gib me a break
>>769203460
>>769204251
No shit you fat cunt
>>769203460
>Post some majority white countries that enable some minimal level social programs
kek
>>769204251
So that involves a hierarchy of placement built on the laws of man instead of natural order.
>>769204186
One's with 100s of years of colonial or military despots where a plurality or their economy comprised of a singular natural resource are especially prone to this, yes.
>>769203023
>Nobody noticing the picture to the right
>>769204422
Then nigger I dont know what the fuck point you're trying to make at me. They're not socialist and it's stupid to bring them up in defense of socialism.
>>769204555
No faggot, it's every single country in the history of the planet where socialism or communism has been tried
>>769203103
Truly don't understand this argument. Every government is corrupt. America is corrupt as fuck yet we don't look like this. Corruption in government is given so if you're telling me that socialism doesn't work if there's corruption than you're saying it will never work. Capitalism works pretty decent even with all the corruption.
>>769204743
>dumbfuck has never heard of western europe
>>769204944
Again, those countries have private and open markets. Not socialism.
>>769203023
socialism is worse than niggers
>>769204939
>America is corrupt as fuck yet we don't look like this
Keep telling yourself that fatty. You think all of Venezuela looks like that dumb bich?
It's not socialism if it fails lol.
![a3f[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dtI5Gd7.jpg "a3f[1].jpg")
>>769203796
Top kek
Capitalism isn't perfect but it's pretty damn good.
>>769205114
Americans don't have to catch wild dogs to eat. Why does everyone from Central and South America want to live in America if they're countries are doing so wonderfully? The best government is a mixed one that's heavy capitalism but with a moderate amount of social programs so people can make something of their lives if they are willing to work for it. Simply giving people things because they exist and allowing them to continue to be lazy only breeds more entitlement and then you get revolutions the first time a politician tells them no.
>>769203103
4chan likes Alex Jones like information. That and 30 threads of the same thing per day at the same time.
>>769205505
Because you keep bombing the shit out of every country that has resources and profiting from it You'll get your comeuppance.
>>769205593
Nah, nobody will invade us. There's a gun behind every tree.
But you act like the people posting on 4chan are the US government and military. Almost nobody supports the US military's actions. Everyone in this thread is supporting our FREE MARKET which isn't government controlled (except for regulation, which I'm against too.)
>>769205721
Capatalism is a system of markets, not government. The thing you're bitching about is our representative republic.
>>769203761
You're wrong. Brazil is a capitalist democracy and they did it. All of them, not only the socialists. It's a plague of ignorance of any color, sex, social condition or ideology. Fucking apes!
ITT: Countries developed completely independently and no country has ever influenced the behavior of another country, present past or future.
Also, my country/culture is undoubtly the best and every country ever aspires to be like us. If they don't, they are cleary thinking in backwards retarded ways and need to be sanctioned or bombed to reason.
>>769203023
>heyy dumbs, go in shit, look at this!!!
>>769203023
Literally just thought that this was PUBG for a second from the thumbnail.
>>769203023
Fake.
Garbage.
Lies.
>>769206086
> believes the US is waging war in the name of politics and ideolgy
> doesn't know it's about the profit that can be made from war and 'rebuilding' the shit you broke
The basic concept of capitalism is, what forced this way of thinking, not politics.
>>769205103
Pretty true, this is a great point.
>>769204035
The Monroe doctrine is great.
>>769203023
Here is an actual picture of Caracas, taken this year.
>>769206453
Which is why I'm an AnCap libertarian. Big Lots never murdered anybody.
>>769206453
And if your big point is that capatalism somehow leads to an aggressive military, then boy do I have news for you on what kind of deaths socialism has led to, time and time again.
>>769207283
It's not, it's about the commodification of war through capitalism. The war isn't about the spoils, land or even history. It's mostly about the money, being made through the war itself. You know, producing and maintaining weapons and cars, re-building after bombing, etc.
>>769203023
I'll defend it because the pictures aren't of the same place. Does that count?
>>769207108
Nice view
>>769203103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_2hMyHcsTA
>>769203103
>they're right you know
if socialism was the problem then every single socialist country ever would be humanitarian disaster, Vietnam is okay, Cuba could be worse
what about every poor capitalist african country, do those prove that capitalism is a failure? no, they don't, and Venezuela does not prove that socialism is a failure
>>769203853
Then he's retarded. Venezuela's fucked up because of corruption not socialism or america
>>769205103
this is a really good point, because all those african countries that are poor and have refugees are somehow not capitalist, and those central american countries with tons of refugees are somehow not capitalist either. You're retarded
>>769205114
>fatty
You can tell how well a country is doing by the suffering of its lowest caste
You know what the biggest problem plaguing the very poor in america is? Obesity
That's right, the greatest strife at the bottom of our social ladder is having too much food
Enjoy starving to death, faggot
>>769206453
>The broken window fallacy is profitable.
Classic communist. Thinks productivity comes from digging ditches then filling them back up again.
>>769209240
> food is food, there is no difference in quality
Let them continue to eat cake
>>769207114
>coca cola-funded hitmen
>the coal wars
>united fruit company-sponsored coup
>>769209367
Never said productivity. I said profit and yes, profit comes from breaking other peoples windows, then offering to replace them for a small sum.
Most likely 80% oil focused economy vs Oil price/3
>>769209461
Right, because when you're starving to death the single most important factor to think about is the quality of food you may receive.
>>769209735
No it doesn't. That's old bullshit way of thinking originated from mercantilism and, as the case for war, nationalism.
>doing fine as a socialist nation
>then corruption took over
humans are easily corruptible. the belief that humans can rule over other humans without corruption occurring is pure folly
ITT: Plebbit defends revisionist "history" and regurgitates right wing propaganda.
>>769210154
Right, because if you're not in immediate danger of starving. Eating shitty food that severely impacts your health and qualtiy of life, is the smart thing to do!
Or are you implying, that the majority of people in the first world are starving and that's the reason, they have to rely on unhealthy foods?
>>769204186
Anywhere where it gets really bad.
Fun fact: the most corrupt rulers of all time were anti-communist dictators backed by the US in the Cold War.
>>769204475
Hi Plebbit
>>769204743
Not really but ok
>>769204939
The US has issues but we're nowhere near Latin American levels of corruption. That's a whole other level.
>>769210307
> the industry focused around the production and distribution of weapons does not profit from war
> the industry focused on rebuilding infrastructure in war torn countries does not profit from being employed to rebuilt what you tore down
> the industry focused on extracting resources does not profit from the somewhat lawless situations over there, as well as the high consumption of their products
> war does not have an influence on the behavior of the people already buying your products
Maybe what you meant, was there is no actual profit to be made from conquering. But there is a hell of a lot of money to be made from waging war.
>>769203023
So wait, not a single person is going to point out that the picture on the right is of Hiroshima?
>>769210833
Isn't that caused they legalized it and called it lobbyism?
>>769203023
I't was something else that happened to the city on the right.
>>769211270
Yes, but even counting that we're not as bad as Mexico, Peru, or Guatemala. Organized crime figures aren't paying off local police to not investigate crimes. Top politicians aren't getting indicted for embezzling hundreds of millions of dollars.
>>769210629
No, just that you're pointing out that the quality of food is an issue in the context of a conversation about shortages in Venezuela.
>>769208263
So what? It's a whole new world, baby! Better us than them.
And don't pretend that you wouldn't be part of the problem perpetuating the shock doctrine if it meant you pocketing vast sums of wealth in order to provide everlasting financial security for your family (and to fulfil your inherent greed, which after all leads me to believe this is an ethical debate, not political).
>pic unrelated, but some might find it useful
>>769203023
What able Chile that was doing fine until the capitalist military coup?
The adverse effects are still felt there today.
>>769212167
this has to be one of the worst tables I've ever seen. reminds me of highschool
>>769212167
> I'm an egoistical asshole, so everyone must be
Wrong. Also, this exact mindset is why humanity seems to be going downhill.
> everyone may suffer, so that I can enjoy my luxuries just a little bit more
> nach mir die sinnflut