He was the target of constant bullying by students, teachers, and coaches. Literally every part of the school attacked this kid.
When are we going to admit America has a bullying problem?
>>769145583
When are you going to virtual signal and be a libtard on reddit is the real question.
I read that he was repeatedly rejected by a girl and then she publicly rejected him in front of other students and she was targeted and killed...
>>769145720
White trash fascists are such losers
>>769145583
the school's covering its ass as it gets sprayed head to toe in a shitstorm.
>>769145583
>>769145583
Bullying problems are a fact of life. There's bullies in the wild, too. If you're constantly bullied it's because you're making yourself a target.
When are we going to admit that America has a pathetic white teen male problem?
>>769145801
Why is it the girl's responsibility to be super duper nice about rejecting him for the 10th time. If he's such a creepy loser that he won't leave her alone then he deserves to be publicly rejected over the fucking school PA system.
>>769145583
OPA !!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81fs6y6Xcf8&has_verified=1
>>769145984
Well now she's dead or so the other post said.
>>769145942
Shootings are a fact of life. There's shooters in the wild too. If you're constantly getting shot at it's because you're making yourself a target.
When are we going to admit that America has a pathetic bully problem?
>>769145935
Protect ma country from the muslams. Part 1 kill a bunch of the whites, make them ahte my movement. Part 2 say a PS2 is insufficient for your jail cell.
When you keep telling the Greek kid to pay depts
"A 9-year-old boy has died at his elementary school in Fairfax County, Virginia, police say.
Wesley Lipicky was in the gym at Franconia Elementary School on Beulah Street in Alexandria about 4:45 p.m. Friday, when he and a teacher both pressed a button to open a large, motorized room partition, police said.
Lipicky was caught between the partition and a wall and suffered traumatic head injuries, police said.
He died at a hospital Friday night, police said."
When are we going to ban motorized partitions? They are killing our kids and yet Trump and other republicans aren't doing anything about it!
>>769146180
That's not the same thing and you know it. Murder is not the same as talking smack.
>>769146090
Well that was snoozefest,
Little bit of circlejerking going on in the comments.
lovely.
>>769145583
Because then you would have to admit that bullying is almost 100% done by liberals
>>769145840
As are school shooters and people triggered by post on /b/ like yourself.
>>769146366
Really? Because bullying tends to be an abuse of the first amendment, which sounds like something either side would do.
>>769146334
this should have honestly been banned a long time ago. but really the problem is the schools not updating them or installing any kind of safety equipment OR even just not maintaining them and disabling safety
>>769146334
>sites one case of a wall killing someone
>thinks its a clever case against gun control
God I hope this is bait. If it's not, please go back to school. And when you do, you will be a quadrillion times more likely to be killed by a beta with a gun than a fucking motorized partition.
>>769145583
Every shooter has been a beta male. They need to be culled.
>>769146090
kek of course ,blacks kids don't go to school and just shoot themselves on the sidewalk instead
>>769146457
>Yes, children consider the first amendment when being pieces of shit towards other children.
>>769146694
Exactly. They have *all* been loser alt-right /b/tard incels. All of them.
>>769145583
Your source for this claim that he was bullied?
>>769146909
this is the new line from NRAfags - guns aren't the problem, bullying is
>>769147042
sounds legit to me, faggot
>>769146703
This is a case of pointing fingers to multiple people. The guy himself for being a murderer, and the people that insulted him, didn't nurture him, all kinds of shit. Basically, this could've been prevented, I think moreso than Cruz.
RIP JonTronShow
>>769146694
>>769147502
fucking kek
>>769146355
there's talking shit about someone, and then there's making a child's life a living hell for years on end. How many thousands of suicides does bullying cause each year?
You know, you can go on youtube and search up TV news reports from the courtroom. Find some of people who're convicted of cruelty to children. Look at what the comments say. About half want to kill the child abusers, and the other half want to torture them THEN kill them.
But when the child actually does something about it himself, that's suddenly a big fucking problem, huh?
The thing is, I don't actually believe it's right to murder someone for being abusive. I would never encourage someone who's being bullied to retaliate in that way. However, if people want to be cruel little shits, and people like you want to pretend it doesn't matter... well, just because I don't endorse violence doesn't mean I have to care when some spoiled little cunt gets half her face blown off. Babies getting cancer is a tragedy. A kid coming to school with a gun and splattering his bullies' brains over the classroom is merely unfortunate.
>>769147502
at least he has a good excuse for not uploading anything this year now
>>769145583
>When are we going to admit America has a bullying problem?
I think you mean a hate problem.
Americans absolutely love and openly tolerate violence, discrimination, and drama. Like a drug.
Wonder how many times the kid was told, "just ignore them and they will go away" before the pain and shame of knowing he had been lied to finally snapped his mind.... only for the wounds to zipper open like a demon crawling out of Hell carrying a shotgun.
>>769147560
what a stupid fuckin bias, nigger idiot
Bullying is and important and natural part of growing up. Only the current generation of millennial‘s think that somehow life should stop being what life has been for thousands of years because they are super special snowflakes . Grow a pair stop shooting up schools and focus on yourself . When you are a failure you have no one to blame but yourself .
>>769147560
half dose pictures are whyte man you retard craka
>>769145583
>America has a bullying problem?
Isn't that just the culture? Just look at the president, he's a bully and he got elected.
>>769146220
It was those kids parents that let the Muslims in. Killing their kids is a good way to prevent future bleeding hearts.
>stupid idiot couldn’t handle being called a smelly fatass for the last week of school
Maybe he could’ve tried not being a smelly fatass instead of idk going full edge lord retard on Facebook and shooting up a school.
Maybe the retard could’ve tried not being a stinky fat ass instead of idk shooting up a whole school like a retard tendie loving neckbeard l
>>769147701
They're weak kids. They got culled. The world was done a favor. Darwinism happens. Talk shit get hit works. Talk shit get shot is nigger/beta male logic.
Saying and doing are two different things, idiot.
>>769147980
Bullies, and their parents, are the first to cry foul the very instant the victim(s) retaliate in any manner whatsoever. They have no one but themselves to blame when the fields they sowed with abuse produces a violent harvest.
>"Bullies should be able to bully others without the risk of getting shot for it."
The irony.
>>769147560
All betas
>>769147560
It is predominantly a white male problem. Without any real cultural identity or 'thing' to fight for, the biggest issue a white male has is finding his place in the world. That breeds angst, which breeds the feeling of being disenfranchised. The psychopathic ones of that lot can't figure a healthy outlet or figure out how to get help, so they grab papa's guns and go rail some kids.
>>769148891
I bet that sounded pretty smart in your head.
>>769147980
>Bullying is important
Keep your retarded opinion to yourself, unless you feel it's important to be bullied for how stupid you sound. Bullying is a cancer founded by bad parenting, which isn't 'natural'.
>>769149038
Someone will buy it
>>769146909
>>769147042
>>769147263
>>>/wsg/2229038
Students interviewed immediately after the shooting.
Get fucked, astroturfer (>>769147042)
>>769148891
>"It's someone else's fault the bully targeted a psychopath."
Wild concept, but try to follow me here... Don't. Bully. Psychopaths.
>>769146334
I remember or gym teacher kicking balls at us when we played spider on those walls...good times.
>>769149048
No, bullying is natural. It's caused by people who are bored and feeling malicious/looking to fit in/have low self-esteem and inflicted onto easy targets who are not seen as a threat. In other words, it's done to people who are perceived as weak: betas. This happens all the time in nature. All the time. They need to figure their shit out or they're not worth keeping around.
>>769149233
Or more generally, "don't bully".
It's just common sense.
>>769145583
He's gonna literally get fucked in his asshole against his will in prison for a few years then kill himself.
>>769146235
*Debts (not “depts)
>>769149183
Why is no one talking about this?
>>769149183
>bullied by fucking COACHES and TEACHERS
What the fuck is wrong with you, America?
And why the hell are you going after guns instead of trying to fix the actual source of the problem?
>>769145942
Seems he never learned to stand up for himself. Playing the victim makes you a victim.
Was a fat kid back in School, sure still a bit on the overweight side now, got bullied as well. Other then the whiny loosers who start to shoot up People cause they are edgy, i stand up against my tormentor. The encounter lasted 5 min and then they left me alone for my whole School way. They targeted more easier Prey. Prey that will not bite.
>>769149183
the stupid 2nd amendment should be repealed and guns should be banned.
bullying is bad but in other countries it doesn't lead to mass murder.
>>769145583
>Big bullying problem at school
>Bullied kids start to shoot the bullies
>No more bulling
Where is the problem?
>>769149681
This guy gets it.
>>769149334
Striking out violently at aggressors when backed into a corner is also natural. Trick is, humans are good enough at it to make it premeditated and possess the tools to make it easy.
>>769145720
>virtual
Lost
>thinks the argument of bullying and not gun control is a liberal stance.
Nigger are you homeschooled?
>>769145583
The only thing wrong in this case is that he didn't swallow a bullet, because now he's in the hands of the biggest bullies the world has to offer....and he's with em for live.
>>769147560
>>769147560
lee boy isn't a mass shooter
>>769149604
>"The government should make it easier for bullies to get away with it."
>>769145984
Actions have consequences
If you do something with the clear intent to blatantly embarrass someone in front of others - even if they did annoy/harass you beforehand - you run the risk of them retaliating in some way
I'm not discussing whether the retaliation is justified or not. Just the fact that regardless of that...you run the risk of it happening
>>769145583
Did triggered little cuck boy need a safe space?
>>769150243
Well his bullies certainly did
Bullies are fucking pathetic cowards, all of them. They know most people won't stand up to them and they pick the easiest targets to harass, fucking pathetic subhuman behavior.
>>769150565
kek
>>769145583
Should have asserted himself and told them to fuck off instead of shooting up the school like a pussy
Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah of course bullying will always be a problem, but should we expect innocents who did nothing to lose their lives over others bullying? Of course fucking not.
>>769145984
This. Not every girl/woman is going to like every fucktard that tries to get into her pants, how is that so fucking hard to understand?
>>769150724
>bullies should not have to experience consequences!
>gun owners, on the other hand, should have their rights taken away for something they didn't do
Gun grabber logic, everyone.
>>769147042
There's more guns in the US than there are people. Theres more US teens who know how to use firearms because they hunt than there are trained soldiers is most nations. If school shootings were a real problem and not a statistical blip we wouldn't have time to debate each shooters motives. Because it would happen 3 times a day every day.
>>769145583
Ironically it developed as a reaction to the violence at Columbine and ever increasing "zero tolerance" policies to displace responsibility off of the schools as institutions, ignoring the fact that despite their counter-culture appearance it was actually a classic sociopath grooming a follower.
Harris was very socially adept and didn't have any personal conflicts with people because he just didn't ever feel bad about himself or for others. Klebold on the other hand had significant mental health issues and a history of struggling with depression and suicidal ideation.
Ironically, because of his temper due to his feelings of inadequacy he's the kind of person you would *expect* to shoot up a school but really they're far more likely to just kill themselves because they usually don't think it would actually make things better. After all, what comes after that but more problems or death anyways, it's not like you can kill the entire nation.
Making him the perfect tool for Harris who just told him that they could totally just keep on going. Afterwards they put together that the two had planned to become domestic terrorists on a national scale.
Bullying didn't play into at all because Harris was more than capable of shielding Klebold and managing his outbursts - when it served him to build a dependency in the relationship and isolate Klebold from other possible influences.
It's consistent that school shooters come from three backgrounds, traumatize, sociopathic, or psychotic. The traumatic shooters have many more significant issues in their lives that contribute to the snapping due to poverty or abuse at home making them unable to deal with stress build up. They're the least common type of shooter as well because they are acting out of momentary passion. Sociopathic shooters are also rare not just due to the condition being rare but because there isn't really any concrete benefit to except their own amusement if they get bored enough.
>>769147560
Post your face when you realize you have to do 50 to top the charts!
>>769147042
Fact. Entitled little shitheads with access to firearms who whip themselves into a frenzy reading bullshit online.
>>769151014
Who doesn't love themselves a good challenge
>>769150724
>bullying will always be a problem
if this is true, may the killings never end
>>769149414
Because he showed that you can still have a great school shooting that gets your face plastered all over national news without using 120 year old firearm technology. You can go all the way back to the mid 1800s with you're firearm technology and still kill a bunch of kids. Idiots want to focus on the AR15 and banning it, but we've had magazine fed semi automatic rifles and pistols available for over a fucking century. We didn't even have any background checks until 1990's. None of these guns are a new development, but school shootings are. What has changed if not the guns? Not the fucking availability, because you used to have guns in truck windows, guns in glass cases in the living room, guns in school clubs for shooting.
1. Have gun control across all states be reviewed and revised, while also being careful to not violate anyone's constitutional rights. Stricter laws about allowing unauthorized persons access to your firearms/ammo, and things of that nature
2. Have any kids who exhibits blatant troubling behavior/statements be evaluated...in other words, take mental health more seriously
3. Teach students (and teachers, apparently) to not bully kids
These are the 3 things that have to be done on a nationwide scale to significantly reduce the number of US school shootings
The problem is, a lot of people only acknowledge either one of the first two, or both of the first two
But mention bullying in terms of it being a factor in school shootings, and it suddenly becomes taboo to those people because it's interpreted as a justification of the shooter's actions
Even black comedians know its a factor; there's that old joke where back in high school they used to treat that one weird white kid really nice just in case he shot up the school, so he would see them and give them a pass to live
>>769152579
>take mental health more seriously
Honestly I think politically connected liberals hate this idea even more than republicans.
>>769145583
>>769151012
So that leaves us with the psychotic shooters, mentally Ill people who live in environments that are safe enough to allow them to function despite their illness but unable to participate in society. They also aren't usually bullied, unlike the traumatized shooters who usually and consistently present with a gradual escalation in conflict of they aren't able to find a place they control.
The psychotic shooters such as the Sandy Hook and Virginia Tech shooters actually isolate themselves and retreat into an area they CAN control completely enough to avoid their mental illness from becoming an issue that can't be avoided.
The problem is that doing so actually worsens their ability to accurately gauge social contexts and situations. We can see this in >>769145801 this post right here where he repeatedly tried the same thing even when it resulted in failure by harassing someone until the situation escalated out of his ability to control it and he reacted . . . Inappropriately.
I'm personally suspicious that his claims of being bullied are due to a history of bizarre and often aggressive outbursts towards people such as repeatedly escalating the situation with the girl rejecting him until finally she was too frustrated to be considerate about it and snapped as well.
Is it bullying if you poke someone constantly until the punch you in the face to get you to stop because nothing else is working?
The media is making a big deal about him being on the varsity football team and participating in dancing at his Greek church, but since he grew up doing the dancing I don't give him any credit for that. And as for the Coaches bullying him, let alone the other people, I am very suspicious of that. The dude had a clean record, no interactions with the schools administration at all. That's not something you can avoid when being bullied, even more so in the current zero tolerance environment, it's intentionally designed to create evidence.
>>769150724
... according to SJWs and libtalk, indifference and tolerance are both acceptance.
Those "innocent" classmates who did not stand up for the victim (a.k.a. did not want to become targets for the bullies who included school faculty) are just as guilty as the bullies themselves according to everything modern behavior programming wants to brainwash us with. Social Justice served, amirite?
>>769152866
>he repeatedly tried the same thing even when it resulted in failure by harassing someone until the situation escalated out of his ability to control it
I've never seen a first-hand source for the claim that he repeatedly asked this girl out, only that he was ridiculed by her when he asked her out (once).
>his claims of being bullied
Those weren't the shooter's claims - that was other students at the school saying he was bullied, and not just by students but by teachers as well. See: >>>/wsg/2229038
>Is it bullying if you poke someone constantly until the punch you in the face
Is that... not bullying?
>And as for the Coaches bullying him, let alone the other people, I am very suspicious of that.
Again this was *other* students saying that happened: >>>/wsg/2229038
Why would they lie about him being bullied by coaches, and fabricate this story immediately after the shooting? What good would that do?
>>769152866
... that's a hell of a lot of words to say
>"No one wants to take responsibility for this."
You will not get anyone handing out anything to self-incriminate here.
>>769152579
1. What is "enough" gun control? If you can make national news with a pump action shotgun and a revolver, are we saying we need to restrict ownership of these even more?
1a. Somehow kids grew up with greater access to firearms in thr past than they do today, but now access is an issue we should legislate?
What do you think has changed?
3. Schools method for cutting down on bullying is "zero tolerance" policies. Which are all retarded, but absolve schools of a lot of liability. Do you think people dont know that bullying is wrong? Did we stop teaching basic respect for each other in the last 20 years?
>>769145583
murica has incel problem like any other western country.
>>769152579
>Teach students (and teachers, apparently) to not bully kids
What constitutes as bullying? Sending that social awkward weirdo in front of the class to hold a speech? And if he refuses because of anxiety the teacher drops all effort because of muh bullying? How can a gym teacher motivate those lazy bastards slacking off the training or all those fancy bitches with their "I have my period" excuses for participating?
Bullying forms character. How do you intend to face hardships and unfairness in life when you never learned to stand up for yourself? Bullying has to be encouraged in children, yet it's the duty for those that are not participating to step in and call both sides out not look away and let things idle until somebody bursts. But then again your entire concept of capitalism is based on taking advantage of the weak...so yeah enjoy the wild things to come.
>>769146180
>Shootings are a fact of life.
In America and some small parts of Africa and Eastern Europe. The rest of the world became civilized over the last 70 years+
>>769145583
Hhahahaaha
>>769149568
I think he stood up for himself pretty well, actually. Not like he's gonna get bullied now
>>769153694
>Did we stop teaching basic respect for each other in the last 20 years?
Yes.
Funny enough right about the time the WWW introduced the World to anonymity.
>>769145583
Bullying cannot be solved as a systematic problem, get over it. People need to learn to deal with getting bullied because its gonna happen.
>>769153768
>Bullying forms character.
Yes, mental psychosis and derangement are very clear outcomes of this kind of character building.
You get to sleep in the bed you made.
>>769154385
Pretty sure it has been repeated time and time again in the thread... he did deal with it. Violently.
>>769145583
Anyways. I don't know how many people here played sports in school and while I won't say you don't run into bullies it's really, really, really unlikely that everyone would be in on it. I mean, it's being on a team. There are however certain expectations for people to know their place and prioritize making the team work while they're there. That's why is someone IS an asshole your other teammates will step in to mitigate the issue. Even if it's the Coach being a prick your teammates will cover for you. In general I found Coaches to be the least likely to bully someone, but they also definitely have the highest expectations of conduct.
As well, he just went through with his whole plan and pussied out on killing himself to avoid responsibility and accountability for his actions. Like, he planned it out briefly and poorly and wrote it all down I'm a classic crazy persons manifesto.
And for the accusation that people should have noticed that he was mentally ill, I'll point you towards the fact that not only was the school unaware of any issues, but his own parents were unaware of it too. Also of significance is that his sister WAS bullied severely enough that she moved to q different school.
Because that's an option you know. In fact his sister had the same teacher as him when he was there and so it's not like his parents or the teacher was unaware of the effects and signa of bullying.
The lack of any warning signs due to his habitual withdrawal from conflict is probably why his Dad fucked up when his girlfriend dumped him and didn't lock his legally purchased by a law abiding citizen firearms or better yet got them out of the house entirely so his son couldn't steal them and go on a rampage.
>>769153768
you're an idiot. people get bullied everyday, but taking that next step and going out to kill other people because of it, is a different story. people who do this are fucking crazy.
>>769147560
i got you my son
>>769154385
>School shootings in America cannot be solved as a systematic problem, get over it. People need to learn to deal with school shootings because they're gonna happen.
For the love of God...please tell me you also believe my edit as well as your original quote.
Because if not, then you are a blatant hypocrite.
We have people out here who want extreme gun control/a gun ban as a way to try to prevent potential shooters from having the tools to be able to do mass shootings.
I would hate to think those same people are somehow against anti-bullying messages/measures as a way to prevent potential shooters from feeling driven to do mass shootings in the first place
>>769154556
So you want to go through life being left alone? Nobody should confront you, nobody should question whatever kind of weird behavior you present and all kinds of offensive behavior should cease to exist? That's not how the world works. You can't have humans together without confrontation. It's how we react when we see others engage in conflict that makes the difference.
>>769155178
How is this possible? Less than 100 mass shooting in the last 36 years?
>But...the media is telling me that there were 22 school shootings in 2018 so far!!!
>>769155651
>Nobody should confront you, nobody should question whatever kind of weird behavior you present and all kinds of offensive behavior should cease to exist?
Please don't tell me this is what you think most people are referring to when talking about bullying in school
>>769155838
mass shootings and school shootings aren't the same. there were 3 'school shootings' last week. only the texas one resulted in deaths
>>769145583
>>769153768
I wouldn't say expecting people to meet minimum standards is bullying unless they're outright unable to do so. Even then, especially for kids, the idea is to encourage them to do it so that they grow and learn from it instead of hiding away from it. It's their outright job to push you into uncomfortable areas like that. I highly doubt anyone mocked him, they probably just pitied him if anything.
>>769153491
Oh no, that's not where I'm going with this at all. His parents clearly fucked this up. Definitely the fault is on them. First of all his Dad as a gun owner had the responsibility to ensure that they couldn't be stolen by his kid, in Canada we actually have a course that focuses on drilling that responsibility into you. Not just for yourself but your buddies who own guns. If they break up with their wife and follow her around desperately trying to get her back, that's when you hold onto their guns for a while. Most gun deaths are suicide.
In regards to the schools, violent deaths in schools have consistently declined over the past 20 years so as frustrating as the zero tolerance policy is, it's actually working.
I suspect it might actually be working too well, since psychotic people tend to escalate or retreat excessively so they would probably just get actually chased out of school or at least not have the false confidence that they were right and everyone was in a conspiracy against them.
But I digress. To touch back on his delusions, he falls into that sweet spot of having plenty of time to make an actual plan and also having there be inxecusable oversights.
Like, none of the traps he made worked. He never bothered to test them out. And his plan was to die at the end but he actually literally folded like a little bitch so he wouldn't get shot.
He was so convinced of his own entitlement that it's like he never believed it wouldn't work at any point or that he wasn't prepared to do it or had other options.
>>769155461
>We have people out here who want extreme gun control/a gun ban as a way to try to prevent potential shooters from having the tools to be able to do mass shootings.
>I would hate to think those same people are somehow against anti-bullying messages/measures as a way to prevent potential shooters from feeling driven to do mass shootings in the first place
ding ding ding
>>769145583
Kids have always been bullied. Kids have always been depressed. Kids have always gone through shit. I dont know this kid's mental health history but all I can say is school shootings really became more prevalent and evil after the generations of kids from the 80s and 90s who were doped up on bullshit mental health meds that either were not as functional as they were supposed to be, not tested long enough to ensure long term safety, or caused disconnection from reality when the patient ceased taking them. Once we started drugging our kids right away rather than parenting them, this shit got way worse; starting with Columbine. Sure, there were shootings before that, and there will be, statistically, every so often, a person that goes haywire without the influence of psychiatric meds... but most of these events, especially Columbine and beyond, have been due to kids taking or stopping to take these kinds of pills like benzos.
Bullying should be addressed as well, and to some degree attempts have been made to reduce it. But its the warping of kids minds before theyre even fully developed that is causing them to be able to carry out cold-blooded, evil, large scale massacres without really second guessing themselves. Kids from the 70s and early 80s rarely did this type of shit. There were fist fights, and gangs, and the occasional targeted gun or knife attack, but this indiscriminate, emotionless mass shooting is thanks to corporate pharmaceutical bullshit.
>>769156048
>this indiscriminate, emotionless mass shooting is thanks to corporate pharmaceutical bullshit.
you are dead fucking wrong bucko
>>769145583
>When are we going to admit America has a bullying problem?
Literally everyone in the U.S. is oppressed. It's then blamed on our peers using devices used to divide like race, economic status, geographic area, etc when truly the one behind it all is government and the elite that bought it out.
Of course the infighting makes this impossible for ppl to see, and they still Blame each other. People today aren't living concious of their actions nor do they hold themselves responsible for furthering the paradigm when they do so every day.
We live in the evil alternate reality guise. Only we can save ourselves, but everyone is looking for someone to do it for them
>>769156215
actualy im not you retarded nigger. this didnt happen before we started passing out these pills like candy. maybe youre too young, born into a generation where these things always existed. but the fact is this shit got way worse when those things became common place. when you start messing with kids mental chemistry of course thats a cause for this. kids were bullied in the 30s and never shot up a school. fucking dumbass.
>>769155947
Bullshit semantics in the attempt to push an agenda.
>>769145583
Suckin on mah titties like you wanted me callin me all the time like blondie
check out my chrissy behind it's fine all of the time
like sex on the beaches. what else is in the teaches of peaches?
huh?
whuut?
>>769156330
>>769156215
really i must agree with the benzo point. dr's are super quick these days to just prescribe a fucking pill instead of actually solving problems because its the easier way. i will say though im not sure if thats the reason shootings have increased.
These whiny pussy shooters need to get the fuck over themselves. Sure your life is shit. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Don't just use your bad pessimistic outlook to your life to ruin other peoples lives. Fuck this pussy and anyone else that sympathizes with him cause he couldn't take what everyone else went through in high school.
>>769156641
>DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
......he did.
>>769156731
kek
>>769156731
Pretty sure he just used his anger to make his life even shittier...
>>769156641
>bully somebody
>it's all his fault, he should stand up to himself!
>get shot
>he shouldn't be allowed to stand up to himself with gun, he should've tried to punch me so I could run over him with my 4 friends!
Yes, bullies are stupid. Who would've thought?
>>769154714
>school has a documented history of student abuse
>unaware of any issues
In other words... it's the accepted status quo by faculty, parents, and political administration that was ignored until such time as a shotgun got involved.
>>769155651
And that doesn't change the fact that the "bully to improve" method produces disturbed individuals. The flaws in the approach are clear and well documented, and so long as you approve of bullying you can deal with it's consequences. You can say "IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!" until you are blue in the face (or eat the hot end of a shotgun) but the facts stand on both sides.
>>769156641
>Don't just use your bad pessimistic outlook to your life to ruin other peoples lives.
You mean like bullies do? Psych101.
>>769156641
>Don't just use your bad pessimistic outlook to your life to ruin other peoples lives
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE FUCK THE BULLIES DO, YOU FUCKING NIGGER
>>769154145
Please. He failed in literally every part of his plan. He half asses his rampage from the beginning and was only able to so it because his Parents are probably not bad people but too self absorbed to recognize that his self imposed isolation was abnormal nor to properly secure their guns.
Like, my Dad kept them in a safe with the key on his chain because I was a difficult child to raise. I mean oddly enough it feels so weird to say this but I actually did manage to swipe it and quickly cut a copy when he went to a conference and I stole his gun and brought it to school.
I mean I was only going to shoot one person though, maybe just shove it in his face to let him know to back off or I would be willing to escalate it.
Anyways a teacher caught me with it and I didn't shoot him because I'm not crazy. He called my parents and we talked it out and I got to go to a lot of counseling.
You know I had honestly forgotten about that. It was a while ago but man remembering that is kind of messing with me.
Probably why I don't buy into the bullying excuse without checking into it.
Also they had already been involved with my bullying issues, including transferring schools and even homeschooling for a couple years. I got a touch of the 'tism you see, luckily I had the support to learn how to manage it.
Blaming the guns is the exact same as blaming the videogames for violence.
Guns are not the problem, cunts.
So happy I live in a normal country where I can go to school without getting shot
>>769156038
Ironically his ex-girlfriend learned the hard way that ultimately you're responsible for your own safety.
If your ex turns crazy, you gotta let the people around know about it. I mean, I honestly don't know how his parents could have missed that.
The issue is that we already have a lot of policies and also social support for victims of bullying. There really isn't a lot more we can do. Hell places like Japan that have much more rigid standards for social conduct and politeness actually have worse bullying problems because it instills the value of not rocking the boat over causing disruption.
There's plenty of counseling opportunities in schools heck they have staff whose job specifically is to be there as a resource. But it doesn't work if the people don't involve themselves in it, and in the case of children it's the parents responsibility to step in and make them handle their shit instead of enabling them to further avoid it.
Once again, I find his claims of being bullied to be highly suspect. Either there was an overarching conspiracy against him to make him fail, or he was the problem and the people able to correct it were unwilling to take the responsibility of doing so.
I mean what ais the school able to do in the absence of conflict except inform the parents that they're concerned about his isolation? Especially when they say that he plays football and is involved with his local Church, ignoring that he didn't have any friends at the Church either. Like I had problems and even I hung out with a couple of other people who were in similar positions and more tolerable of social gaffes because of it. You actually have to work to become that isolated, or be totally unwilling to accept other people for having the same difficulties.
>>769157884
The fact that you didn't immediately say which country you live in speaks volumes
your parents were bullied way harder than this kid could dream of and they didnt go on a shooting rampage
these nancy boys need to toughen up
>>769152735
>>769155877
Oh I know. I was bullied in school. Getting picked on is not the problem. I can take the humility. The problem are the prying eyes of all the people that knew. Those thoughts that are corrupting your head whenever you think about facing those eyes again and again. Dreading going to school, dreading going to sleep because you know you'll spend the whole night thinking about what's gonna happen the next day. All those comments behind your back and all the snickering, and while awkwardly try ignore all this...guess who you gonna run into?
>>769156898
>the facts stand on both sides
That's why the solution is to always call out both sides. Why bullying a weakling? Why take the beatings without standing up? Bullying will always happen, but it's the ignorance of all the onlookers that turns a humiliation into weeks/months/years of sheer terror until something happens...
he's a faggot that can't handle rejection. High school is hard and you know what you do? You graduate, work hard at uni and get a better job than everyone you knew, work out and get in shape, get a real hair cut, learn how to dress and then have other women to fuck. What you don't do is become such an unpopular faggot and kill people because you're ugly and retarded.
>>769158129
It could be literally any other country :)
>>769154145
Stood up for himself while he spends the rest of his life surrounded by men in jail while everyone else is outside enjoying their life. Except it's Texas so he's going to be killed Yeah, really showed them.
>>769157400
Are you an american by any chance? lmao what a fucking post.
>>769158776
>while everyone else is outside enjoying their life
I don't think the people at his school will truly be "enjoying life" for quite a long-ass while
Does anyone here have a statistic on how many times guns have stopped school shootings?
>>769158924
They'll be outside. Not lucked up or waiting to be lethally injected. He's a pussy that couldn't handle being told no like a real man.
Don't defended a retard.
>>769156898
The parents fucked up, but if the kid isn't causing problems at class and is instead withdrawing they're pretty limited in what they can actually do to intervene.
Especially if the kid reacts to intervening as "bullying" him by making him do things like talk to people or maybe even criticism him for some behaviour that is inappropriate. They aren't his legal guardians and have their own professional standards of appropriate conduct to follow.
Just to be clear, I'm not defending bullying to be beneficial. I am, however, establishing that bullying has to be targeted harassment with the intent to harm someone.
Otherwise what he did to his ex-Girlfriend would 100% bullying and honestly I would lean more towards it being so because he ignored her direct and express need for him to respect her boundaries to the point that I can't in good faith say he didn't know it was causing him harm.
So you think it feels good to blow up at someone in public? If so then you're socially stunted. It's embarrassing to have to air your personal problems in public like that and most people have to be pushed quite hard to that point. There's even a phrase for it "making a scene". That was actually how I myself would attack people to make them look bad. If they lose control while I'm being calm I thought that meant I was winning even if I was unfairly being unreasonable past a the point of acceptability.
Of course the problem is that when things don't go as plan and in their rage they fully describe just how inappropriate your actions are that you realize you didn't expect to get called on your bullshit and now you don't have control and their anger is justifiable. That's when the panic and shame sets in.
And it's so easy to blame them for doing that, how could they do that to you in public and embarrass you. Ignoring the fact that you were relying on them not wanting to make a scene to let you get away with pushing until they couldn't take it.
>>769158403
>Why bullying a weakling?
Because they can get away with it. See: Anonymous posting on the Internet.
>Why take the beatings without standing up?
Because you can't get away with it, even if it is just in the victim's mind that they can't.
The child acted on what he was taught.
They all did.
>>769145583
It's not a bullying problem.
It's a people problem.
As long as people continue to be shit to each other over <insert reason here> bad things will always happen.
Case in point, this thread. You have pro gun and anti gun rabidly going after each other for a little difference of opinion. You've never grown up at all.
>>769159083
silly argument. 'lets provide people with the means to easily kill people, and then lets provide other people the means to easily kill those people'
>>769158403
Yeah, all that stuff you described about the onlookers? That's vanity. Turns out you just aren't that important in other people's lives. Oddly enough, I found out that if you went up to them and said that you recognized that you were having problems and need someone to help you, they'll suddenly care enough to actually put serious effort in.
The trick is to ask them directly instead expecting them to read your mind, and to be honest about wanting to improve yourself to be able to handle the situation instead of blaming everyone else for not fixing it for you on their own.
And while there will be some absolute shitty people in your school I am highly skeptical of you not being able to find a single person willing to help.
And then they can call your bully out on their shot and provide a stabilizing influence so you dont chicken out and withdraw or freak out and being a gun to school.
Most people just have occasional conflicts with bullies because most bullies are simply taking advantage situationally to establish their social status with a fight they can win, and someone who has difficulty forming social connections or behaving appropriately doesn't have many options for retaliation.
Except to ask for help. But that means admitting you're not strong enough, and I know that I definitely had issues with accepting that because I fought so hard all the time against feeling flawed that I felt I couldn't let others know at any cost because I was afraid of those in looking eyes you were talking about.
>>769159520
Thats what guns are for retart
>>769159181
But that changes because you stepped in and called them both out. You got both parties to state their motivations. You didn't take sides and yet you stopped a conflict. No think what would happen when more people had your guts and would call conflicts out instead of taking sides...they would get interrupted all the time until something happens that didn't end in a bloodbath. And you know why? Because somebody cared.
beta male faggot who should have just killed himself
>>769145583
>When are we going to admit America has a bullying problem?
Are you seriously telling us that he HAD to shoot a gun due to the bullying?
Did he "catch gun" like you would "catch a cold" ?
>>769159086
Yes, being shit to someone is just that, being shit to someone.
The issue arises when it is justified beyond reproach with "bullying happens" like a band-aid on a superficial bruise... a clear lack of empathy on one or more sides of tragedy. But instead of learning from a series of terrible mistakes and evolving past them so many are content with the ready made phrase "It's someone else's problem/fault."
>>769146334
You are a dick!
>>769159396
I think its more normal people vs americans in this thread/
>>769159963
nah i'm glad he killed people, i'm sure he didn't kill everyone who deserved it
So hilarious that no one on this thread wants to take responsibility for being an asshole.
>>769145583
there is a difference between bullying and alienating the trump supporter because hes a fucking trump supporter. get fucking real.
>>769145583
the game
>>769160190
Standing atop a bulging pile of shit is not exactly a moral high ground, poser.
>>769159843
>That's vanity
Spoken like somebody who didn't get bullied. I got beaten up inside a full class, under the eyes of 24 kids, lying on my knees crying while still getting beat up for 20 minutes. How is a devastated kid, broken down on the floor in tears not enough to motivate somebody to step in or even step out. But no just business as usual...deal with it.
>>769160190
Interesting point, have a gun.
Teacher here
Here’s the thing about kids that get bullied:
Nine times out of ten they antagonize the other kids first
I can’t tell you how many times an annoying little shit will mess with another kid then get popped, and then turn around and cry about getting bullied
>>769160617
Yeah, and we all know that wearing glasses or reading books antagonize other kids so much, they deserve a beating.
>>769159396
It's not even people being shot to each other. I rarely see people not help someone in serious need when they ask for it.
But mental health problems are so stigmatized as being a flaw in character that it's hard for people to admit their problems.
Especially since the less social status you have the more protective you are of it. Even if you are a loner you want the context to be you rejecting their system, not being unable to work within it.
I honestly don't have a problem with letting people carry weapons, but I am concerned about the logistical viability of ensuring those people are properly educated on the responsibility of owning a firearm before we even consider the issue of them carrying it around with them. And every time it is used it'll be a clusterfuck of finger pointing to shift blame, while also fucking up the person who had to make the call.
And definitely a no for teenagers. They're not good at impulse control and the responsible gun owners voluntarily give their guns to someone else when they feel they might be tempted to use it.
Gun deaths from suicide in the US are more than double that of homicides. Accidental discharges are responsible for 5% of gun deaths.
Which is also unacceptably high despite being lower.
For a nation that sure does brag about personal responsibility Americans seem really touchy about people being responsible for their obligation to point out when they're not meeting the standard expectations, whether that's participating in a classroom or not pointing your gun at anything except what you plan to shoot.
I know it's partly the autism but it's really stressful when people don't act appropriately about those sorts of things because it worries me and confrontations are difficult.
>>769160617
>teacher here
Faggot
>>769159520
To be really safe we should take guns away from police as well!
Okay that might not sound as facetious to an American but most places spend enough time to train their officer on not using guns to resolve the situation and only to protect themselves - which is different from killing the other person if they don't comply. It's better to let them escape for a while than to kill someone.
>>769160617
lmao way to set an example of non-violent conflict resolution, anon.
>>769160617
Utter bullshit, the post.
>>769145583
We can address both bullying and regulating firearms, anon.
Stop trying to insist we choose.
>>769160389
Better that being 6 feet under, due to one's own hubris.
>>769145583
You gun nuts better fucking back off.
>>769160190
I'll admit I'm an asshole right now, but everyone else is also a fucking asshole, I just have the guts and intelligence to admit what I am
>>769161621
Or what exactly?
>>769161621
lol get shot fag
>>769161756
You'd better not try any fucking "civil war" bullshit either. We have the Army, Navy Air Force and Marines.
>>769161811
No. You aren't shooting anybody, do you hear you fucking gun fag goddammit?
>>769160035
Conflict happens. People will have different desires and ideals and those will always cause friction. The problem is when people like >>769160433 refuse to examine the situation from outside their own narrative.
I actually was literally in the same position and I tried to ask the teacher for help and age brushed me off because she was busy and didn't see it.
So I just left the class and went to the principles office to complain to her boss. Anyways it turns out that his personal assistant and long time friend was the mother of the two ringleaders. I want good at paying attention to things like that otherwise I would have just gone straight home.
But I refused to let them ignore the situation and insisted on calling my parents to come get me agmfter explaining the situation.
Of course, that didn't endear me to the administration because it ended up being a big thing and they had to suffer scrutiny over their policies after that. It did also turn up that he sleeping with his assistant. Small towns man.
This was after I transferred from my elementary school after I skipped a grade and began to have issues with integrating that escalated to bullying.
And now you know the story of why I was honeschooled.
As well when discussing the event with my parents they asked how it reached that point and I had to co feed that they were calling me names and I started calling them better ones. Their last name was Clingman so I always called them Cling-ons. I was nerdy so they just thought it was a weird star trek thing. That day was the day I decided it would be reasonable to let them know that it was also a term for shit that stays behind when you wipe your ass and was very appropriate because one of the brothers had already been held back a grade and it was a safe bet that unless their mom started fucking the principle that they would soon have even more in common than just family and classrooms.
>>769148429
what
>>769145840
This is such shitty bait. Losers not an insult on this site and neither is fascist. It just makes you look like a stereotype when you use those words unironically.
I mean for fucks sake you're a couple clicks away from a Nazi hivemind.
>>769162208
That's sounds like some Jewish Hollywood script...Back in the real world kids are being kids, are easily intimidated and after all the finger pointing is done they still have to face the fact that the next morning means yet another trip to school. And guess who they gonna have to face there?
>>769145583
no you are not going to
Also, no one has to be bullied. We need to teach our kids how to fight. If I will ever accidentally become a father, I will teach my kid how to fight. If my shit mother hadnt told me to just turn arround and leave when they bullied me but fucking punch them school would have been much easier.
Also I want to be there for my kid and not be like my father and just piss off.
>>769160035
To be clear I'm not saying that they were justified in beating me up, that was inexcusable.
But I do share some responsibility for escalating the situation instead of resolving differently.
Much like with guns, just because you have the ability to use it doesn't mean you can do so without consequence. Looking back on it as an adult, it's not that I didn't realize how hurtful it could be to say that to someone who has to face their failure every day in class with kids a year younger than him, which is a lot of time at the age. Much less hearing it from someone a year younger than that because they did well in school. While my condition definitely makes it difficult to know WHAT to pay attention to, it does seem like I can be disturbingly insightful about things when I focus on them.
You'll note how that didn't work out so well because I failed to think about what the consequences might be I'd they broke the rules and started physically hurting me. Class is supposed to be safe! Pic related, except for the autism being reversed.
>>769162790
>Also I want
And I want to fuck a hooker on mars. Ain't gonna happen...and you getting out of your parents footsteps will be hard work, son. Not many can pull that off.
>>769145840
KILL YOURSELF
>>769145942
>If you're constantly bullied it's because you're making yourself a target.
lmfao found the faggot
>>769163050
Closer to a cuck. Cucks blame the victim and hand the victory over to the oppressor.
Faggots just like being victims.
Seems like a lot of people weren't taught to respect themselves or others as children, and turned into self-absorbed assholes as adults.
Teach your rat bastard kids to respect others, and to not take shit from anyone. I had people fuck with me in school, especially high school. All those angry teenage hormones flowing making everyone want to top of the food chain. Tell you what though, all you have to do is put a bully on his ass and he will leave you alone. If he doesn't, you keeping beating his ass till he does. If you see some 220 lb prick beating up on a beanpole nerd just because he's bored, you stand up for the beanpole. Help your fellow man and all that jazz. Problem is people are raising pussies these days, telling them that everything is rainbows and unicorn farts, and that everyone is a winner.
My dad went to high school in the 80's. Most of the rednecks in the school had rifles and shotguns in the rack of their trucks. Also, when people had a problem, they fought it out.
Guns aren't the problem, kids who don't get the belt put to them or have to work for anything are the problem.
>>769145583
America's problem is not with bullies, it's with whiny ass bitches that can't think for themselves or deal with shit.
Bullies have been around forever, it's life.
Parents need to step up their game yo'.
>>769163386
People need to embrace suffering. All of them. Welcome it with open arms. Things end up less extreme that way because they defuse early.
Is that your fucking point?
>>769163386
So you are, in fact, ignorant enough to suggest that guns aren’t the problem. Good for you. Bad for the rest of society.
>>769160617
That's not really the bullied kids fault. It's more their inability to respond to low level antagonism combined with retaliating on a level that is proportional to how much they feel they've been hurt without consideration for whether or not it's socially acceptable to do so instead of resolving it differently. Which isn't to say that how hurt they feel isn't important, but if they are being hurt enough that they feel justified in retaliating than some sort of intervention needs to occur to resolve the situation instead of escalating it to the point where they bully can claim that it wasn't unfair because you were attacking instead of defending.
The reason why it happens so often with their victims is because they intentionally choose the kids that are bad with those situations.
>>769160389
I agree with you but go back to Facebook.
>>769163712
Suffering is a natural part of life that will literally never go away. When/if these losers get a job, there will be someone there who will be an asshole. Whether it's their boss, a coworker, or a regular customer with a chip on his shoulder, they will always be there. Every time you go out into public, there will be someone who is an asshole, and there's a solid chance you'll end up having to deal with them. Better to raise your kids understanding this, and that killing someone because they called you fat isn't a solution AT ALL.
>>769163828
If the kid in question didn't have access to guns, he would have done this with a knife. If he couldn't get a knife, he might borrow his parents' car and pull a van of peace on his classmates. Or maybe the edgy fuck looks up how to make plastic explosive on the internet. Its a simple recipe, very easy to get the components, and very east to make. Hell, diesel and ammonium nitrate mixed together with a simple blast cap makes for an excellent improvised explosive. Point is, it's not the tool, its the person. He would have found a way to violently deal with the issue, regardless of how he had to do it.
People are the issue, you gun fearing fairy, not guns.
>>769163828
The problem with society is melavolence you dumb fuck. If the psychotics, traumatized, and psychopaths can't use guns they'll use knives, if they can't use knives they'll use bombs, if they can't use bombs they'll make things, if they can't make things, they'll use their body, if they can't use their body, they'll use the social world to pin everyone against each other like the elites do now because revenge and malevolence is a cycle that has been around longer than we have. If you try banning all that shit the world will fall apart. Thinking as far as guns is simple minded.
>>769145801
Exactly... From Texas, so most likely republican household (I could be wrong) and I bet bet his mom said he deserves the best all his life. With that being said rejection happened, yet the conservative snowflake snapped. Typical! One dissenting voice, and he went extreme to get attention he wanted. Now he will get all the attention he wants, court, prison and an audience at his death. It is a pro death penalty state. By the way, liberal here with a logical mind.
>>769145583
no its guns, guns are evil
>>769145583
Is he wearing a bikini top?
never because according to the left its ok to bully whites
lmao bunch of pathetic faggots either in high school now or still sore about being bullied ITT
>>769164905
Someone should respond to this piece of shit. He doesn't get it.
>>769145583
kill everyone, kill everything. these kids are just ahead of the curve.
He partied.
>>769156038
Checked!
>>769145720
He didn't automatically assume it's a gun problem. He's not a liberal you chink.
>>769166777
sad fuck, our future is fucking glorious
>>769167322
Checked!
>>769158398
>>769145583
First an armenian, now a greek. It has something to do with turks, I am sure of it.
>>769167456
who said it wasn't? we just need to let the youth off themselves.
>>769158635
this
The elephant in the room is that everyone knows it's a mental health problem. But healthcare costs MONEY. Taking care of mental health on such a scale would cost a lot of money that no one is prepared to deal with how to fund. They would rather there be a few dead kids now and then than deal with the actual issue, but nobody will actually say this out loud.
>>769145840
not facist he had commie pins on aswell
>>769158635
ma boy.
>>769145583
America loves guns.
America (secretly, or not) loves bullies. America gets down and sucks bully dick every day, and nobody is innocent. Conservatives suck bully dick all day and they're proud of it. Liberals hate to admit it but they love their left-leaning bullies just as much.
The second amendment (which I support) and that bullies will always have access to guns. And, even worse (obviously) victims of bullying will have access to guns.
Which part, getting beat on in class while thracher was ignoring me? It was a small town school and the people were mostly shut. Hell I still haven't forgon an art teacher who ruined my piece because didn't apply the technique the same way.
We were making wax screened shirts bu first painting a layer of wax on top after it spx
>>769165110
Your mom is wearing a bikini top!
>>769158635
It's so simple but the fucking incels just do not get it.
To achieve things takes work- we are not born winners.
>>769145583
no no no anon it's just his a bit mentally sick. /s
>>769164631
>if he's going to kill people, it should at least be convenient for him and be possible with the least amount of extra effort.
>>769147980
This is hilariously short sighted
>>769145583
Go listen to Jordan Peterson on the subject. It's less about the bullying and even less about the guns.
Dylan and Eric did it because they thought humans were cruel people who deserved to meet their maker. It's true without bullying we wouldn't see this (at least not in the same capacity) but lecturing people about bullying isn't the solution.
I would make the argument that lecturing on bullying makes bully victims worse off because it equips them with the wrong set of tools. If we did a better job putting fathers back in the homes and even reinstating religious values, if we helped people realize their life's purpose we would see a substantial decrease in violent crime
He's a loser.
ITT: Nazis need safe spaces
Which part, getting beat on in class while thracher was ignoring me? It was a small town school and the people were mostly shut. Hell I still haven't forgon an art teacher who ruined my piece because didn't apply the technique the same way.
We were making wax screened shirts bu first tracinf a design then placing a layer of wax on top after and then throwing into a bunch paint for what random design. I disagreed about he aesthetic of that and so declined to so it.
And then she crumples the shirt to break the qad and they it in the dye to "fix it for me" right after saying the important thing is to learn the technique. I find that stuff very frustrating because not only did she ruin my art but she did it without even checkin g what I did because she already decided it was wrong sonI couldn't learned the technique either.I planf on being mad about that forever.
>>769145583
Everywhere has a bullying problem. It's only America that has easily obtainable firearms so that bullied teens can shoot up a school every week.
I was bullied to shit when I was at school. Being a brit fag, I couldn't just grab a gun and shoot the place up. I guess I could've grabbed a knife and stabbed a bunch of people but instead, I learned to fight back and took out the one cunt that everyone seemed to fear. Even the teachers seemed to ease up after I fed that fucker his teeth.
>>769168422
>>769158635
ffs faith in humanity restored im loving these sane posts. good mind my boys. keep a fucking level head and lead us onto greatness
>>769145984
Stfu bitch don't reject your reality
>>769147042
If guns were the problem, we would just send guns off to war and let people stay home safe.
Seriously, mental illnes is the problem here, and it gets ignored so frequently.
>>769169120
Dude was a cry baby bitch. I get it if you shoot people who are coming for you like beating your ass after class no one helps you. But shooting up a school over a girl is a pussy ass move
>Has an enormously shallow hyper individualistic society void of any traditional certainties of the past
>surprised people start getting isolated and start shooting
Americans must be special in the head. I like how even when confronted with reality still blame the bullied person hahaha. Completely delusional.
Oh please. The bullied should stop being easy targets for bullying.
>>769168821
>Le epic projection maymay
hmmm really makes the olde noggin' joggin'
>>769145583
This is fucking retarded. Every other country has mental health issues. Every other country has bullying in their schools. However every other country doesn't have a gun violence epidemic. What's the difference? Our fucking laws.
>b-b-but the second amendment!
you can have responsible and sensible gun control without infringing on your second amendment rights. Banning AR-15 weapons which are designed to slaughter humans does not impose on your constitutional rights. A federal court even ruled that the second amendment doesn't protect assault weapons.
Stop protecting the gun manufacturers who make a killing (he he) off gun violence by propogating the myth that "a good guy with a gun is the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun"
Look at Australia, Japan, and the UK as examples of proper gun control and shut the fuck up
>>769148178
Holy fuck. Back to red_dit with you.
>>769145984
She liked him. Her mother told her not to date him because he dated the girls friend. So yeah. Real creepy.
>>769169996
>Shall not be infringed upon
Look at Switzerland faggot. No restrictions.
>>769162763
I should also mention that I have good parents.
When the teacher tried to dig in on for leaving the classroom without permission they asked her hlhow it was even possible if she was paying attention without missing a beat. Honestly rht school was fucking garbage full of small town politics.
But the other kids weren't watching me, they were making it very clear they weren't getting involved because it was messed up and that was the Teachers role and they didn't want to start a fight with the biggest guy.
Having everyone stand around and watch including the teacher would be weird. You are either the wrong color in the wrong town or you've been so difficult that people think you deserve because nothing else has caused you to change how you interact so far.
Like if you go around refusing to ever get easier to deal with and they're stuck with you - well beating you into compliance isn't the best solution but I can't say o would be idealistic enough to let it happen one time to see if the person figures it out.
>>769170076
you can have your yeehaw hunting rifles, pistols and shotguns. do you really need a military grade weapon?
>>769169787
yeah exactly, school shooters dont even seem to shoot their bullies anymore. they just pop any poor fuck who just happened to show upto to school that day. total waste of talent and untapped genius. stupid kid, i dont care what happens to him, the true tragedy is the loss of these young minds
>>769145583
With a face like that I'd bully him too.
>>769163006
The meek will inherit the Earth - in plots 6'x3'.
Guys as a European I wonder how the American laftist faggots think guns fire themselves? They are objects, the person fires the weapon.
Face it American faggots. you have a societal problem. But, just like with the racial issues, you refuse to actually solve the problem, but turn it into a dramatic zero-sum game. Complete with tears, emotional tv and general faggotry. Just be down to earth and get to work in solving this bully problem and reign in your women.
People get bullied then get killed and then they are the dead victims? I’m pretty sure this is evolution. People hate to feel outcasted and rejected. And it’s easy for pretty people to say bull shit nice things like love one another and there there’s some one for every one. It’s not true
>>769149504
Going after guns is part of another agenda to disarm Americans so they can start dumping more Muslims in and get U.S.A. in line with Britain, France and Germany.
>>769170225
I can do whatever the fuck I want faggot, that is what makes this country the USA. By the grace of our constitution. Also, if you look at history you might start to understand why we have it. A couple of deaths that are proportionally insignificant on a country wide scale is not a problem if you think about it rationally and not with tears in your eyes. Also, we should do something about the bully problem in schools.
>>769145583
Fuck him. I was bullied too and I didn't gun down my school. Maybe he deserved to be bullied if this is what he did. Little cum swizzling faggot. I hope niggers hollow out all his holes in prison.
>>769149604
Fuck you. You're either retarded or a shill. For the love of humanity, do not reproduce.
>>769145720
If op was a libtard, he'd be demanding gun control not retard control.
>>769170235
This is the truth why the fuck would you kill random awesome people go out and kill your enemie. This guy just sold his legacy as a retard
I wonder if these school shootings will reduce bullying by pure fear of it happening. If that would be the case, then we are seeing a horrible, but evolutionary reaction to being arbitrarily outcast-ed
>>769146366
Keep sucking those cocks buddy. You're a growing boy and you need your calories.
>>769170523
That feeling when you'll never be in a well regulated militia
>>769170572
See, it's people like you who foster alienation in others.
>>769170572
Thanks OP
>>769149604
>guns should be banned
lmao bro the technology is so fucking old, literally coming down to 3,000BC. good fucking luck. it cant happen. it can be recreated in a fucking garage. i realize you want less violence but what you're asking for is fucking IMPOSSIBLE. a smart 13 year old could put a piece of aluminum on a lathe and make a pea shooter
>>769170773
You can. Go to Colorado.
>>769170736
Lol libfag. Try to have a comeback that's not just an insult for a change.
Not for guns but you can’t really stop them people in the other country’s illegally ship them to ever part of the world.
>>769145583
He is a part of a growing bunch of pussy's who can't fight for themselves.
Pusssaaaaaaaa
>>769170736
>proving his point
lel
>>769163386
Actually physical punishment is quite decidedly proven to be counterproductive for changing someone's behaviour. Works great to interrupt the process of bad behaviour, but kids need to have the reasoning behind the rules as well as how to communicate their perspective and listen to other peoples. Violence comes naturally, communication is hard.
Pretty much by the time they're big enough to even consider hitting them, they're also developed enough that 6ounxan start explaining yourself to them. Almost like a parent is supposed tech their child, not train them.
>>769145935
Oh look another loser!
>>769164631
I'm just going to point out he did make explosives, none of them would have worked.
Don't let depressed or unbalanced people near guns.
>>769170786
The cunt went to school in a trench coat with an iron fucking cross on it! If alienate his Nazi fellating ass too. You want to talk special snow flake bullshit of my opinions and feelings trump fact, this is it right here with expecting anyone other than a fellow retard neckbeard to want t hang out with a cunt cheese like this. Shit, should have taken him out back and gang raped him with cacti.
>>769145840
I will agree with you, Join me!
>>769164905
> The problem with society is melavolence
> you dumb fuck
Do you often try to judge people by standards you can't live up to yourself? Aren't you worried that it will reflect poorly on the feasibility of your proposed changes?
>>769146090
White guys need to stop making fires they can't put out themselves.
>>769146618
Took the bait
>>769168812
>10 dead 10 injured
Sounds like a winner to me
America has a problem teaching kids how to deal with bullies. They tell kids to be cucks and take the bulling up the ass.
lol i wonder if the dead girls parents think their daughter was too much of a bitch
like damn our daughter was such a bitch that she triggered someone enough to shoot up the school
>>769148068
What is asian alex
>>769145583
i got bullied all the time i didn't wanna shoot anyone. i just figured it was a part of fucking life
Bullying is a problem in the fact that there is no real way for the bullied to actually deal with it these days with all the pussy whipped kids and teachers alike running around.
Let's say you are getting verbally abused constantly by some kid in a class? What do they tell you to do? Ignore him/tell the teacher. Ignoring will cause him to start physically fucking with you in most cases that are not too serious (rubber band guns, breaking pencils, etc) which to some people can seriously ruin a day if there is enough of it. Telling the teacher about it will have one of 3 results: teacher does nothing "just ignore them", teacher will half-assily tell them to stop which will do nothing, or sometimes the bully will manage to make a huge deal about it causing the whole class to see that half assed grillment, meaning everyone will probably be whispering "haha anon is such a pussy snitch"
Actually beating their asses like every anon here is saying will most likely result in consequences with the school due to most bullies these days being rich and/or entitled little shits who will go to the school or their parents if they actually get shit thrown back at them and ofc, the school will only listen to the one who was put in their place because "lol just ignore him and don't get violent"
Tl:dr, the school systems that allow and borderline endorse bullying are the real problem
all i'm saying is that if they had let students out of school in on the 15th of may instead of making them wait all the way until june this wouldn't have happened
I got bullied at school as a kid you know what I did found the mother fucker walking took my skateboard smashed it on the top of his head then kicked him in the face with my steel toes
>>769169787
I mean he was clearly suffering from a delusional state. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't actually being bullied but just didn't let people know when something was bothering him and so they didn't know or he would shit-talk them afterward.
If you're alone for too long it makes you really fucking weird.
>>769170225
Cars kill more people than guns from intent.
Most gun deaths are suicides from handguns.
>>769145583
real problem is a jews
What do his parents look like?
>>769170438
People are usually outcasts for a reason
We've just evolved as a society enough now that we're trying to help even the assholes that believe they should be free to act however they want because only their feelings are important to them and if they make someone feel bad it's their fault for not understanding them, and if you make them feel bad it's it of malice.
>>769172532
Well, they DO all have guns.
So good luck with that.
>>769172077
Lmao this
>>769145942
Yah and in the wild things kill other things. So by that logic what he did was totally acceptable? You’ve reached autist levels of idiocy.
>>769172216
> due to most bullies these days being rich and/or entitled little shits
Only because they have the resources to get away with it. The poor kids just skip right to dropping out to become criminals. Ain't got time to be beating people up for free!
However in general I've notice that there are fewer bullies among kids from stable homes because they learn better communication skills and have more stability in their home life and better self-esteem.
Growing up with money makes you a better person who is secure enough to worry about intangible billshit.
I know a lot of guys that grew up not even realizing they were bullying people because their own self esteem was so high that they thought it was just playful teasing and not things people would like awake in bed replaying a decade later because something reminded them of it.
As well while they aren't as impacted by consequences to some degree, they don't have any justifications to beg Pitt from people like poor bullies do, always blaming their environment instead of committing to working to improve themselves. Lower/middle class people got so much pride, if only the could bottle it and sell it.
Here’s the thing how much of a idot parent do you have to be not to safe lock your guns up? Honestly there should be classes you have to take to own a gun for fucking idots
>>769172218
lol i like your attitude
Seems to be a lot of boomers in here, problem is you can't punch your bully anymore or you get expelled or even Fucking criminal charged while bully gets nothing
>>769169942
and how do you propose that happens, dipshit?
>>769145583
Actually we need to ban all assault weapons for about 30 years to see how the experiment works.
>>769169865
I'm an American and I would love nothing more than for this sorry ass fucking country to get nuked, hopefully NYC or somewhere like that
>>769174306
>hopefully NYC or somewhere like that
Let me guess: because it's full of liberals and Jews. Trumpfag.
>be an american high school student
>on your way to 3rd american history class of the day
>minding your own buisness
>you smell joey the emo kid and hear a shotgun pump
>time for the weekly school shooting
>go for the revolver hidden in your boot
>fat rolls stop you from bending down
>catch 3 slugs to massive man tits, 4th to the face to finally ends it
>people on 4chin after the fact
>why did anon bully the emo kid! He deserved to get shot!
>fucking idiots
>>769168422
your version of "winning" is fucking shallow and meaningless and you know it bitch
>>769145583
OP I'm tired of these threads.
You do this to distract from the fact we need sensible firearms regulation in this country.
I blame the parents and all the adults at the school.
>>769168792
lmao
Funny how all of you make assumptions about motives without knowing a thing about the actual turd.
Also, his possession of the weapons were illegal, murdering illegal, possession of IED's illegal, molotovs illegal, yeah more laws will fix it. Idiots!
Offers blast people all day long in the streets no one says shit. A few retarded white kids do it all over the news
>>769174647
What?
>>769174723
Apparently we do need more laws, anon. And if you gun advocates would stop supporting the wrong side, we'd see progress.
>>769174803
Niggers* I mean
>>769160617
I think you need to redo your teacher training.
Looks like you've confused the bully that's used psychological and social acts to pick on someone with the victim that eventually retaliated physically.
>>769174902
It's copypasta. Buttmad False flag from other threads.
Maybe if his parents kept a leash on him and looked in his journal occasionally it wouldn't have gotten this far, but f*** personal responsibility, it's everyone else's fault he is an evil f***.
>>769148427
he didnt prevent anything, he was just a coward cuck who decided to go against unarmed kids
>>769148427
Posts like this make me want to support increased immigration from Muslim countries.
I used to work for a rental car place and my boss was the definition of a social criminal/bully, I never got the chance to spit in his face and tell him what a fucking loser he was and I regret it to this day. It's only because I'm such a patient/kind/considerate person that I didn't just let this mutherfucker have it. Just kill all bullies and everyone who accepts bullying and does nothing about it, that's a step in the right direction.
>>769175242
>a rental car place
maybe your boss will get into a road rage incident
