How about some FORTS?
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How about some FORTS?
>>769046110
I'm liking it OP
Try sieging this.
I really like this one. I wonder what it looked lik,e in its prime
>>769046731
this is not fort -_-
castles>forts
debate me
Very cool thread OP.
I really like the looks of >>769046917
>>769047044
You can't fool me, that's not Athens.
>>769047111
>>769047190
What's the difference between a castle and a fort?
>>769046110
Old Latvian hill fort
a vlasic
only good thread i have scrolled past in 20 mins
thanks OP
>>769047044
lol'd
>>769047411
castles are better and aint gay
>>769047044
check'd and kek'd
here's a rare before image anon
>>769046984
Nice one! Where is it?
>>769047666
In the netherlands
tfw no fort house
>>769046984
just block every kind of food supply and shit in the water. they'll be dead in a year.
>>769047764
Why even make a house that small 2 stories? Couldn't they have done a ranch design?
>>769047694
Interesting, at first I thought it was the one in Den Helder, perhaps the same designer
>>769047666
Naarden
>>769046740
San Macros in Florida?
>>769047566
You sure?
Don't assail me, silly boys~!
>>769047935
impenetrable
>>769048012
yep, go there a few time a year
>>769047411
Not him, but I'd say that purpose and occupancy are the difference. Castles serve a political, as well as military, purpose. Castles house a lord (or some other such nobility), and as such, it's a residence that has been fortified. A fort(ress), serves a purely military purpose. It only houses soldiers and officers. They're both similar in the fact that they are fortified and that they usually exert a zone of control around them.
>>769047914
For the view?
Because a smaller footprint means fewer means of ingress?
So they could put a water tank in the upper floor and have running water even when the electricity is out?
>>769048188
This is an excellent distinction.
>>769048188
a castle is a fort. the residence for faggot nobles is a palace.
>>769048243
Oh okay the view makes sense then. Just seems inconvenient going up and down all the time.
>>769048376
Eh. It's a matter of semantics.
All castles are palaces. Not all palaces are castles.
Versailles, a palace, wouldn't necessarily be considered a castle.
>>769047566
That must be why modern military forces the world over continue to use castle designs for defensive posture.
Oh wait.
>>769048024
>Cindarella's Castle
nigger of course thats gonna be gay
>>769047336
Does it come with a qt gf?
>>769047411
actually lots of debate on that. simplest answer is that a castle is just a certain version of a fort.
>>769048581
no girls allowed, i'm affraid. but you could get a qt bf, if you like.
>>769048436
That is a cute fort.
>>769048427
Best make sure you go right once you get inside the wall. You go left and find those two big guns pointed at you.
Is this a fort?
>>769046110
what is that place? Reminds me of the Castle from Fallout 4 (but full sized)
>>769048803
Is Fort Meade any good? It sounds overrated. Not bad, just overrated.
>>769046984
you don't need to siege its not a fortress, you can just bring means to cross the water from all sides after you wreck it with artillery.
>>769048880
They just make a lot of honey brew there
>>769048928
All the best plans start with artillery and end with infantry.
>>769046984
Saw a show about this bastion the cross fire and street planning was state of the art forgot the name was a BBC series.
>>769049109
oh god, don't bring in even more synonyms for forts.
>>769048704
>climbing in there
>>769049234
that thing in the back for 200
>what is a ladder
>>769048704
>>769048436
it's french
don't you know the TV show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9HL4ahIO98
>>769048581
No, only fugly traps. Women attract the barbarian hordes.
>>769046603
I can besiege that alone with flint n steel.
>>769047910
>they'll be dead in a year.
By a year there would be reinforcements to break the siege.
>>769049819
>implying everywehere else isn't already zombieland
>>769047336
You will be able to defend your virginity for an eternity in there.
>>769047498
pff no wonder latvia no longer exists
>>769047336
Can't go wrong with an elephant on guard
>>769047682
nice
>>769047682
here...together
Not really about forts, but cool nonetheless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5mb2Zcw6mc
>>769051495
looks like the angle of the picture changing in the last one, kinda ruins it
>>769051641
Fits with
>>769051495
Pretty sweet thread OP, here’s the one I live near
>>769048278
Best in thread so far
M
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I am glad you like my thread.
Let's expand our forts a little more!
>>769052437
Damn how many people you figure live in there?
Here’s a castle I live near also
>>769052644
I would say not more than 2k. Maybe 500 though.
>>769052736
fort holmes in mackinaw island near where i live in michigan usa
>>769052954
Thought it would be more
>>769052985
Here’s one I used to live by in GA
The curator at the time was a strange guy, fired a frozen chicken out of one of the cannons just to see what would happen. Of course, it pretty much vaporized the chicken. He only found small black chunks about the size of a golf ball.
>>769050781
fucking fire hazard ahoy
>>769047509
>>769047565
>>769047615
>>769047654
WELCOME TO LORDS OF THE REALM 2
bump
>>769047336
i see someone has there war elephant ready
>>769046110
>>769046740
Is this an old fort converted into a jail?
>>769048761
no its a picture
>>769051495
thanks anon you shall be blessed with good dubs
>>769055855
dumb entrance you can only pass through in the center block fuck off
>>769056095
yeah, this a nigga who pussy ass play on peaceful
>>769056095
Nah, the bottom bit is 2 blocks high, not one. It checks out faggot
>>769048803
Commie central
neat thread
>>769046984
space nuke
>>769056864
The fuck?
We are talking about Napoleonic Era armies here.
Anyway, which fort do you think is best to defend against combined French-Russian-British forces from black powder era?
>>769057102
BUMP KURWA
>>769046984
that's pretty fucking weak
>>769046110
I live close to that one.
>>769057102
Anything on higher ground, if it isnt a star fort, dont hide in it.
>>769058026
not before the gunpowder era.
>>769048798
that's the Spandau Citadel. It's located in Berlin, germany
>>769046110
It's pretty dope. They put up concerts there on a regular basis. Marilyn Manson performed there and Alice Cooper soon will.
>>769047521
the grass roof on that vlasic is quite a pickle
really need to visit this on, gonna drive by it in about an hour going to work
nigger fort
>>769059071
Kek
>>769054631
you sir, are a scholar and a gentleman
>>769046110
MODS MODS MODS
THIS THREAD IS NOW OFFICIALLY A STRONGHOLD
NO MATTER WHAT IT HAS TO REMAIN ALIVE
SIGNED,
ANONDOLF
>>769047935
That's great thank you
WE WILL REMEMBER
>>769059415
Don't be a bitch we need to talk about forts to know how to defend against the ews
>>769056230
No it doesn't you fucking faggot, the fence block has a hit box that is 1.5 blocks high so the sides only have a block and a half of clearance .
>>769049043
That makes you feel home everytime.
I feel this thread has a shortage of moats.
>>769046110
The problem with native Americans is that they all fought each other, instead of just getting along like one big happy family. That's why European ppl were superior.
lol
>>769059887
badass
>>769047044
>>769047609
Without the before image I would have never known.
>>769047935
good boy
>>769057102
mmm theres one in a city off a coast somewhere i want to say its mediteranian it was the best fort i ever saw sort of just pocketed into the corner of the city but i cant find or remember it. may have just may been on a small island just off the coast of the city. it was quite oldschool, maybe a spanish or byzantine inheritor. sorry if this is too vague, i saw it once 4 years ago
>>769059047
not this one, it was more older school, completely packed
>>769060490
higher resolution because of my autism
>>769059598
Yeah I remember. That was a stupid battle.
>>769053520
>>769052954
>>769052437
The city of Elvas has a population of 23k. I estimate around 8-9k live in the fortified old town.
>>769048376
retard
>>769060544
Seeing that still makes me happy.
Would have been nice if they burned that entire building out and everyone and everything in it.
>>769061040
Too bad it was an attack done by the American government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg
>>769060544
Oh yeah. When America bombed itself.
>>769049711
And that's how you spot an American.
You don't think people was smart enough to protect wooden fortresses from fire? Setting fire to a wooden fortification was A LOT harder than your inbred minecraft mind would think.
>>769047111
That literally was a fort.
>>769046110
>>769046740
>>769048278
what's with the triangle star shapes?
why so common
>>769046110
i love farts...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBrXErFMfR8
>best fart is a wet one...
>>769061170
The corners, notice how most are concane rounded walls that come to a point? That means people at the points can easily see/shoot along the entire length of both sides.
It's actually a huge tactical advantage to pool your archers/crossbowman at those corners.
>>769060439
wat?
>>769061653
>archers/crossbowman
not guns?
some of these are clearly in use well into modern times
>>769061170
It leaves your attacking enemy with a bad choice, of either doing all the work of attacking a mostly useless point, getting up over the points wall only to find yourself still out of the fort, and facing a horrible situation of being bottlenecked by the shape of it before you can get in from there, and as you're getting bottlenecked the amassed centralized forces have a much easier time dealing with killing your guys off a few at a time, OR, attacking the more ideal Main wall, but to do so, means you're passing a pair of points extending behind you, making that main wall essentially just bait, allowing the defensive army to encircle and surround your offensive force with abouvt 270degrees of firing exposure to you.
Your best bet at that point is to invent the airplane and just bomb the ever loving shit out of the place.
>>769061815
Well, guns too.
most of these were originally constructed in the age of archery.
But, I suppose to advantage works for guns aswell.
>>769061170
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion_fort
>>769061921
A bastion fort, a type of trace Italienne (literally, Italian outline), is a fortification in a style that evolved during the early modern period of gunpowder when the cannon came to dominate the battlefield.
>>769061974
Hey, good to know!
Doesn't nullify my point though.
>>769060036
They had forts too.
Most were bulldozed in the great 1800s land redistribution. Big pyramids and walls aren't useful when you're trying to farm on someone's sacred land lol
belgium is crowded with these forts. some of them are gone tho.
>>769046110
Good thread OP. Thanks for trying to save /b/ from all the bullshit rate/wwyd/ylyl/nigger/meme of the day threads.
>>769060036
>europeans
>getting along like one big happy family
You stupid or something
This is located at the eastern Danish strait, on the other side of the strait was another castle, and both forts were able to shoot half way across the strait.
>>769048499
>All castles are palaces.
Nope, it's only a palace if the primary role of the castle is as house for the lord, and that usually means that it has been severely altered to make it pleasant to live in.
>>769046110
Haven't seen a thread this interesting or comfy in a while, OP. Well done.
>>769062363
Hahaha i live at 20 Km from that place in Alsace (French fag here)
>>769065238
settle down
>>769065923
In a fort? Yes, please!
>>769065823
Haha je suis à mulhouse toi t'es où ?
Spanish fort in nowadays Colombia (Cartgena de Indias)
>>769048408
some faire maeiden was likely imprisoned against her will on this destitute rock... I bet a glouraeious knight came to save her <3
>>769046110
my historical nigger
>>769066238
That’s so ugly it’s almost kinda beautiful. What the fuck is going on?
>>769047190
Forts replaced castles after cannon became common...
Forts became obsolete with modern artillery.
Fort Weeb
>>769066197
Hhaha énorme moi je suis de Souffelweyersheim, bon ya une heure de route mais voila sans déconner c'est génial XD
This is a Northern Ireland Fort. It is Police Barracks built to withstand modern attack from Irish Terrorists using bombs and guns. They still exist to this day in modern UK.
>>769060544
a "plane" apparently caused that.
MORE LIKE A FUCKING RC PLANE
you dipwant dumbshits actually believe a jumbo jet caused that.
FUCK YOU
>>769047565
>Stronghold 2
>>769046917
Fort Jefferson
The biggest regret of the Civil War, is that after the North raped the South, we didn't finish the job.
Now we're left with a retard south full of inbred white welfare retards that live in trailers, with broken down trucks on their "lawns".
The north should have burned them all alive. To this day the south hates America.
The gold storage room at Fort Knox
>>769046110
Good bread /b/ is full of trash, but this is good
>>769061170
>Anonymous
came about when muskets and cannons were a thing, it allows multiple angles of fire and the lower wider walls couldn't really be knocked down by a cannon like older medieval walls.
My home town
>>769049109
That came from french royal engineer.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sébastien_Le_Prestre_de_Vauban
Neuf Brisach, also made by
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9bastien_Le_Prestre_de_Vauban
>>769067863
sacrebleu tu m'as devancé
>>769052043
>>769052736
St Augustine?
>>769068027
Le pouvoir des cours hors programme.
>>769060036
Pueblo Revolt was moderately successful. Only if they stayed unified.
>>769068003
What that was crazy with those structure was the ressouces involved.
To siege a bastion you need to raise an army at least 20k to 30k men. And be able to provide those soldier with food and water for about 3 month. More than three month an you loose the siege.
>>769046110
Kastellet i Copenhagen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_de_Chaumont
>>769068910
Sadly that why the Nazis use it during WWII
>>769069013
Nah, that's just a big building...
>>769059627
spectacular
Thank you for this thread. It has made me relaxed.
>>769069109
They use it to prevent against ground assault but a bastion cant protect you from air bombardment
>>769067319
Magnifique
>>769068963
That is how it looked when I was a child...
notice the road which was established in 1894.
>>769070189
This road just kill it
>>769070300
Sadly a lot of precious building and monument were disfigured/destroyed because of urbanism (or german/american bombs)
>>769070589
I heard urban planners in Rome hate every time they come across Roman ruins. It delays their work for months/years and often have to plan around them.
>>769071140
Same here in France, there are laws so archeological researchs could be done before... delaying the constructions severals months.
I imagine how bad it could be in Rome or Naple...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7aIpfWWHs4
>>769049880
the concrete battleship. America's unsinkable death machine. Still sits there waiting for the next chance to defend the philipines.
>>769048401
more truthfully, that looks like a relatively classic design of lookout tower. Built in an already high place, given a little more elevation and windows all around to see where the forest fire is. Originally there would have been a special aiming device in the center of the upstairs room to triangulate onto locations.
>>769071611
They've been trying get a metro stop at the Colosseum for so long now.
You wouldn't want to ride the metro in Rome anyways.
Suck my tiny dick
>>769047044
That's actually really good.
>>769060910
FUCK OYU I WANTED THAT ONE SO BAD!
>sucks being young and no money.
>>769072580
Hi Israel
>Can withstand any attack shorter than 4 feet
I work pretty close to this one (for the US anons, our national anthem was about the bombardment of this fort).
>>769058809
icwydt
