All the guys who argue against public healthcare, are you trolling?
>>769032599
No they just don't care about their country
No, because I don't want to be heavily taxed so I can pay for a safety net for careless retards and invalids
>>769032962
But what are you?
>>769032774
What about themselves?
>>769033036
That's all they care about.
But they aren't smart enough to know how to take care of themselves.
They are a confusing herd of cows.
>>769033091
Sad
>>769032962
>i.e. my fellow countrymen
Confirmed hater of America
Worse than communists
>>769033015
Able bodied person that has never broken a bone or needed an expensive procedure because I take care of myself and think before I do stupid shit
Public healthcare in a country heavily jacks up income tax because medical care is expensive, so if that shit happens in America I'd basically be paying out of pocket for other people's medical problems
What prevents one from purchasing health insurance? Btw, its ok if you were just misinformed in the past. But did you know that anyone who does not have insurance and makes below $250,000/year can typically contact any pill manufacturer and get $1,000 pills for $1? Not even trolling, pretty much every "big pharma" will sell their pills super cheap to people who cant afford it. They sell for thousands to people who have govt health insurance so in the end, the govt pays anyway.
>>769032599
Nah man, I love getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt on med bills just cause I got shot at school.
>>769032599
Are you retarded?
>>769033247
>Able bodied person that has never broken a bone or needed an expensive procedure because I take care of myself and think before I do stupid shit
Doesn't have a basic understanding of how health works
>Public healthcare in a country heavily jacks up income tax because medical care is expensive, so if that shit happens in America I'd basically be paying out of pocket for other people's medical problems
Not really. You've been lied to if you think it's that significant. You probably think space travel is expensive.
>>769033247
i hope you get cancer
then you'll see
>>769033332
Not an argument
Not even a good insult
This is /b/ not gamefaqs in 2003
>>769033361
>i hope you get cancer
These are the people who claim they have empathy.
Worse than communists.
>>769033361
That's pretty fucked up bro, sorry for having different political/economical views than you
>>769032962
why don't you want to be heavily taxed? are you some alt-right nut who thinks there should only be anarchy? do you want the roads you drive to crumble apart? do you want people who don't have money to die of starvation?
stop thinking of yourself. there's a world around you and you have an obligation to help care for it.
>>769033498
I pay my taxes just like everyone else, which is fine by me, just don't want them to be even higher for something I won't use
/b/ sure has turned into a bunch of bleeding heart faggots
>>769033498
strawman argument
>>769033666
>I pay my taxes just like everyone else, which is fine by me, just don't want them to be even higher for something I won't use
That's most things you pay taxes for. If you're for the optimization of your tax dollars going towards services that you use HEY WELCOME TO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM, MOOK.
>>769032962
You still want to be heavily taxed
>>769033666
>/b/ sure has turned into a bunch of bleeding heart faggots
safe space advocate
you're weak and lack character
>>769033277
No.
Get informed, health care premiums and other expenses go beyond the tax increases needed for public healthcare.
In other words: you pay more now, than you would if it was public healthcare.
>>769033498
>there's a world around you and you have an obligation to help care for it.
Says who?
>>769033850
He just said it. You have an obligation to your fellow countryman if you care about your country. If not, leave. Imagine a landlord housing somebody and not expecting them to pay rent. Fucking hippies.
>>769033841
If I was a safe space advocate I wouldn't still be here discussing this
But if you're trying to get me to leave your socialist circlejerk safespace I will, don't want to trigger anyone
>>769034040
>If I was a safe space advocate I wouldn't still be here discussing this
You complained about an alleged influx of people who don't agree with you, implying the opposite would be optimal. Safe space advocate.
>But if you're trying to get me to leave your socialist circlejerk safespace I will, don't want to trigger anyone
HOMOSEXUAL FACEBOOK RESPONSE
100% POZZED BUGMAN
>>769033947
Landlord-Tenant relationship =/= Countrymen-Countrymen relationship. Absolutely awful argument.
>>769032599
I’m sure glad you friendless virgins are here figuring out all these important topics. Let Congress know what the outcome of this thread is so they can act on it.
Faggots
>>769034154
Taxes = rent
That was the analogy, not as analogy for fellow countrymen
Low reading comprehension
>>769032599
Let the weak die.
>>769034140
Do you always shove words into other people's mouths? People must love talking to you
>>769034278
you'll say that until you're in need of healthcare. Then you'll be crying for mommy
>>769034299
They are your own words and I put them through a de-bullshit machine. I simplified them to their basic elements. You're annoyed that people around you disagree with you, and you chose to express that. It's a very feminine quality, anon. I would get rid of that if you consider yourself a man of any sort.
>>769034196
Your post literally has the form "countrymen...country :: landlord... housing somebody"
Can't even comprehend your own words. The absolute state of leftists. Maybe we shouldn't fund public education either if it produces brainlets like you.
>>769034389
No now you are trying to get content where there isn't because you are desperate to be contrary to me because I'm implying you are selfish, which is what you are.
Then you continued your tantrum by being reductive. You used the "You're a leftist" card instead of arguing things based on face value.
Weak person.
>>769034299
Dude he giving arguements and all you do is faggotry louderwithcrowder, shapiro, tucker carlson ad hominem bullshit. Grow up
>>769034508
I like the way you think, it's like me
>>769034596
But with fewer comma splices.
>>769034369
More of an observation than a complaint but I could see how you could be confused about that seeing as text isn't the best way to communicate
>>769034525
What are you on about? He hasn't made any concrete claims, just emotional appeals and strawmans. If that's your idea of arguments I'm kinda sad for you
>>769034508
No counter argument. Don't worry, someday, maybe even years from now you'll come out of your cloud of self-induced cognitive dissonance.
>>769034681
Kek, you used to do the same?
>>769034738
>No counter argument.
You are correct. What it was was a much needed explanation of your inability to communicate because talking to you requires this. We can't just have a discussion because you constantly make mistakes.
>Don't worry, someday, maybe even years from now you'll come out of your cloud of self-induced cognitive dissonance.
Meaningless drivel. Ad hominem, and might I add an ad hominem that really isn't even appropriate given the situation. You don't know how to talk like a man.
>>769034892
No we can't have a discussion because you don't understand the meaning of your own words.
>>769032599
Take it from an Australia. Public healthcare is shit, government ownership of everything is shit.
Government’s only exist to decieve the general public and profit only for themselves
>>769034728
>text isn't the best way to communicate
HE SAID THIS AND MEANT IT (probably)
>>769034892
Okay, now try making your points again without randomly attacking their masculinity to make them seem weaker
I believe in you
>>769034951
I'm the one backtracking your mistakes, not you doing that to me. I already made myself clear, and you refuse to move on. You're still acting like a woman.
>>769034728
You are continuing to do what i just critized you for doing. Come on man, I dont know how much "«insert any right wing youtuber» DESTROYS" videos you have watched but it's probably way to much
>>769034970
>Government’s only exist to decieve the general public and profit only for themselves
YEAH MAN
FLOWER POWERA
Have you seen that documentary called Zeitgeist. Blew my mind, bro.
>>769035088
Haven't watched one that I can remember, try constructing another narrative for me anon, I'm waiting
>>769034987
Seem?
>cntrl+F "ad hominem" , "argument"
It's 2018 on /b/ and people still treat this place like it's a formal debate forum. Jesus Christ. May God have mercy on your souls.
>>769035182
>espouses small government conservative view
>flowah power
>>769035051
>not you doing that to me
Yes, I am.
You're still acting like a woman.
>>769035308
Now you're just taking my premises because you know they work on you on an emotional level
>>769035282
It's not really what you said. It was the facebook way you said it. Sounded hippy.
>>769035335
>you know they work on you on an emotional level
Mind reader fallacy
>>769035199
Sure thing. You write like you have an attentive audience glamoring for your next zinger. I draw the parallell cause you dont produce substance in the conversation, you are just opposed.
ITT: logical fallacies, shit flinging, and the smug people who use them
Nothing to see here, folks
>>769033355
Sauce please
>>769035237
What do you mean big boy?
>>769035553
But you are my audience waiting for my next zinger, you responded to my first zinger and every single one after that :^}
Oh look another solid sound debate from the wise minds of /b/
>>769033842
>No.
No sauce retard
>>769035685
I just don't get it. Do people honestly think they're changing anyone's minds by debating here?
>>769035607
You are never independent and never will be. Debate on the amount and options is a must but thinking you are removed from an obligation to contribute is retarded.
>>769035473
But also true
You switched your tune up because you thought it would work
was incredibly inappropriate given your feminine track record
>>769033498
>people die of starvation
If they cannot pay for their shit I honestly would like them to die. It's natural selection.
>>769035795
I hope not, I'm just having fun talking bullshit with other retards
>>769035831
A rare case of live self-contained cognitive-dissonance, wherein the subject is aware of it and even admits to it, but continues to double down into it in spite of this.
>>769035723
No. I responded cause i saw you making zero sense and now you continue to shift focus, all the while adressing none of the criticism
>>769032599
Nope. We just realize that the further below average someone is, the better socialism looks. It is forcing capable people to subsidize the continued existence of those whom we should be culling.
>>769035795
Obviously not. I have nothing better to do (how sad)
>>769035831
>guy calls you out for being a mind reader
>you do it again
>>769036086
:(
Find a hobby friend. Do something to cultivate yourself.
>>769033947
>obligation
Yes let me give all of my money to the NHS. Let me also pay for sandniggers food. Look if you cannot provide for yourself then you should die. It's natural selection.
>>769036182
We all should huh...
>>769036379
Probably. I'm just killing time before work.
>>769035828
Whut?
>>769036439
I got the day of myself. Life just sucks though, working and getting nothing out of it
>>769036452
Dude, tbh I havent paid attention at all I am just shit posting
What do you guys think about public healthcare, but only for things out of your control e.g., getting hit by a car.
Self-inflicted things would not be covered e.g., anything related to being obese, smoking etc
>>769036572
>>769036488
Yeah life sucks but maybe you can make it suck a little less by starting a hobby; anything is better than spending your day off debating (or watching) insecure people here.
>>769036790
I'm just lonely, I couldn't get the drugs I wanted so I'm here, I'll shut up now.
>>769037026
Lol my sympaties, I guess
>>769032962
Len Schleifer thanks you for your service!
i cant help but think that people who think "i dont want accessible healthcare because i dont want to pay more taxes" have just been brainwashed by the swamp and lobbyists influencing politicians and conservative news outlets to keep the status quo as it is
politicians and pharma companies make collective billions off of your beliefs that other human beings are leeches and that taxes for easily accessible healthcare would be financially crippling
