1) all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database.
2) guns should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
4) fuck the NRA. Gun safety should be practiced and not preached.
Cia shit post of the day!!!!
>>769032315
that much ignorance hurts my eyes
>>769032315
>Keep sippin.
But for real. I have an akm, .357 and a .22 lr.
We need some realistic gun laws.
All EU and AU castrated men be gone. Only Americans can debate gun laws in the US.
>>769033046
that is the coolest fucking thing ive seen here today, i want to fish fuck too
>>769032315
Over 900,000 children are aborted every year in the US. Get back to me when you've banned abortions, and maybe we'll talk.
>>769032315
I don't think we need MORE gun laws, I think we need to make the ones we already have better enforced and more sensible. I don't think you'll find too many gun owners who want it to be like the wild west. As a gun owned seeing people who have guns and have no clue what the fuck they're doing is scary as shit and those types should be weeded out. Just my 2c.
Also going shooting with my new G19 today (9mm), What type of ammo do you boys run? I've been putting federal brass through it and got almost 300 rounds through it with only one jam (using aluminum of course) on the last mag.
>>769032315
Canadafag here:
>1) all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database.
We already tried this. You will NEVER get 100% compliance even from LAWFUL gun owners and, of course, you'll get 0% compliance from criminals.
>2) guns should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
We do this. It literally doesn't stop criminals from acquiring new guns illegally as was the case with fucknuts up in Grande Prairie.
>3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
So they'll resort to stealing one or buy it on the black market.
>4) fuck the NRA. Gun safety should be practiced and not preached.
The NRA does teach firearm safety but it's up to the individual to practice it. Same goes for wearing seatbelts, not driving while drunk and not texting while driving but individuals still do that shit because certain people have a superiority complex. They believe that just because they've never had a problem in the past, their good luck will continue on forever.
>>769032315
I volunteer you to go and collect that information from the gang bangers in Chicago.
>>769032315
We need to make murder illegal.
That would solve all of these problems.
>>769032315
Gmask thread?
>>769034825
That's so stupid. Trying to ignore one problem because of another one does not make any of them disappear
>>769032315
95% of those children are nigger gang bangers killed by other nigger gang bangers. Like most lower species, the nigger reaches maturity at a young age. Most of these nigger "children" have children of their own, supported by human taxpayers.
>>769032315
1) all black people should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database
2) blacks should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
3) any black under the age of 21 should be completely banned from buying anything
4) fuck black people. safety should be practiced and not preached
>>769035036
this is a ridiculous argument. Just because it's impossible to have a perfect solution doesn't mean that you should just not do anything. Canada's gun death rate per 100,000 people is 1/5 that of the US so whatever they're doing is clearly better than what we're doing
>>769034825
ya those unwanted children should get a chance grow up and be shot just like every other 'murican
>>769035459
>>769035678
>rabidly supports killing 900,000+ children per year
>claims a few gun deaths mostly by niggers is a crisis
>Trying to ignore one problem because of another one does not make any of them disappear
Ignoring the abortion crisis is making 900,000+ children disappear every year. Solve that one and maybe I'll believe you care about the lives of innocent children. Until then, you can foad.
>>769035949
You have fewer niggers and mexican gang bangers.
>>769036115
Not an argument
>>769033322
Such as?
>>769033812
>being this retarded
>>769035852
This
>>769032315
How come you mutts don`t have obligatory psychiatric and narcological tests for gun license? We require explanations now at this location.
>>769032315
>3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
The texas shooter didn’t use a rifle at all and he got atleast 10 people. How does it make you feel to know your proposed gun laws are arbitray and founded on baseless claims.
The second amendment isn’t going anywhere.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Sorry but my god given constitutional right prevents you from being retarded.
Suck it nerd
>>769035949
Are we just gonna ignore Switzerland's gun ownership rates and crime rates?
>>769036385
>gun license
What's that?
Also found the EUnuch
>betsy riot
topkek
>>769036385
The texas shooter had zero history of violence and people who knew him said he acted, looked, and sounded fine.
Your psych exam won’t do shit except maybe waste everybodys time and money.
You can psychologically exam deez nutz boi.
>>769032315
>17000 children shot every year
He wouldn't happen to have any sources for that.
>>769036429
>Are we just gonna ignore Switzerland's gun ownership rates and crime rates?
When its inconvenient
See also: crime rates by diversities vs whites
>>769032315
I hope you are the next victim of gun violence OP. And if you tried any of this you would be.
>>769036547
Brady campaign gets this number by defining "child" as < 27years old.
No amount of dead kids is worth more than my security and the security of those I care about.
And OP is a faggot
>>769036317
>>being this retarded
>>769032315
Criminals will always find a way to get guns, wether they get them legally or not. The black market exist for a reason. You gun laws won't change anything.
>>769032315
Please compare this to alcohol, drugs and vehicle accidents
>>769036466
>Check me out, i`m so proud because of my zero days since the last mass-shooting
Way to go, bruh.
>>769036534
You be saying that psychiatry is not even a real thing or summfinns?
>>769036768
Litteraly this. I couldn’t have said t better myself.
I'd say we need to add to this the complete removal of rights for people under the age of 18.
You no longer have a private life. Your personal belongings, social media accounts? Searchable and siezable by authorities based on minimal suspicion. Clear backpacks are just the start. Full metal detector and pat down before entering school property.
Basically, fuck the NRA and these fucking children who can't seem to handle being given freedom and privacy.
>>769036143
>rabidly
the anon called abortion a problem
>>769036919
Nope thats not what i said and you know that. What you just created is a textbook strawman argument and we can continue this discussion when you reformulate your reaponse to something other then a logical fallacy and get back to me
>>769034827
This. Thank you anon
>>769036143
>mostly by niggers
most shooters are fucked up white teens who can't stand real life and the fact that life sucks. i don't want fags like those owning guns.
>>769032315
This is the new copy pasta /b/. Someone posted this exact thing in an NRA thread. Retards arguing about gun control on 4chan new fags not understanding its bait/troll threads. This whole board is. Gotta go to pol for a serious discussion or something. Maybe reddit.
>>769032315
Minecraft is doing this propaganda shit now!? Holy fuck . . .
>>769035949
No. It's not a "ridiculous" argument retard.
anal sex saves lives
>>769032315
>expect Americans to willfully turn in/federally register tens of millions of guns
>Australia still has problems with unregistered gun caches being found, decades after the ban
>>769037072
Nope. Most shooters are blacks. Or are you forgetting that school shootings are a miniscule fraction of all shootings? Or that most mass shooters are ethnics?
>>769037073
Its waaaay too late to be worrying about copypasta and bait threads. That cancer killed /b/ long ago.
god i'm sick of conservatives and liberals getting in pissing contests instead of trying to actually fix anything.
1. a gun ban will never happen. never. if there are libshits here, you need to stop talking about banning guns. it's not a realistic solution
2. start talking about realistic solutions: mental health checks, mandatory training before buying a gun, closing gun show loopholes, metal detectors in all public buildings and armed guards.
let's make shit happen instead of measuring our dicks and shitting on each other. you want kids to stop dying? time to work together and put your dicks back in your pants.
>>769032315
Ah hell bring it. Let's get this over with. In the end you may still be holding your pen but I know I'll still be holding my guns as will every gun owner we know. When did we as a nation become such pussies ?
>>769035663
Jesus that is old
>>769035521
/thread
>>769037034
>those psychiatric test are pointless and just a waste of monies
>thats not what i said
Johnny, muh boy, make up your mind already.
>>769037314
hush up, we're talking about mass shootings.
>>769035949
Canada has a population of 36 million. Hmmm I wonder how small that is compared to America? Oh yea over 300million larger. This is not an argument when you state no facts and use defunct arguments by acting as if Canada is anywhere close to America in size. Also bretty sure this is bait.
>>769034825
I knew there were some backwards retards in the US but damn lol. Imagine being pro life in 2018
let's abort ALL of the babies and the problem will be solved in 1 generation!
STOP REPLYING TO BAIT
ARGUING ABOUT GUN CONTROL ON 4CHAN IS FUCKING POINTLESS
STOP BEING FAGGOTS
>>769037409
Well now you’ve simply just repeated what I said and then passive aggresively implied it isn’t true but have yet to actually provide a counter to it other then your baseless disagreement.
Technically not a logical fallacy. It’s really just not an argument at all.
>the earth is shaped like a sphere? LUL do you actually believe that haha?
Thats how you argue^
>>769037626
This.
The answer ALWAYS lies with the children.
Abort all new pregnancies, remove all rights from existing children. If you're breathing and under 18, you have to WORK to earn trust and rights.
>>769037398
>mental health checks
Not even remotely constitutional
>mandatory training before buying a gun
Not even remotely constitutional
>closing gun show loopholes
There isn't one. Gun shows are covered by the same laws as anywhere else.
>metal detectors in all public buildings
Mostly there already
>armed guards
Who will just hide like the cop at parkland
>>769037461
>ignores inconvenient genocide
>>769035949
can't tell if troll or retard
I'll bite. Allow me to enlighten you, you brainwashed retard.
1) "Just because it's impossible to have a perfect solution doesn't mean that you should just not do anything"
>This is true, however in the grand scheme of things legislation within the federal government is just moving the needle 1% to the left or right. If you want mass reform in the states. Its not realistic. So if you are one of these people that is trying to make change. Good luck. You're going to put a lot of effort in for minimal rewards. We have an antiquated form of regulation and governing with the elected officials of congress and house in the US. We elect them and trust them to go 'change' stuff. Its retarded. It doesn't work. Everything moves slow and no on agrees with anyone 100% anyway. Like I said. Anything you do change is a little bit here and there. Guns aren't getting banned. I would argue even removal of everything non pistol/bolt action would ignite a civil war/revolution.
2) "Canada's gun death rate per 100,000 people is 1/5 that of the US so whatever they're doing is clearly better than what we're doing"
>This is why anytime I see someone quote statistics like this with now context I consider them to have a lower cognitive ability than me and inability to critically think. Its okay. Not your fault its the school systems. Let me lay this out for you
-Canada has less niggers
-Canada has less mexicans
-Canada has less bad neighborhoods
-The US was literally founded upon fighting a king who was trying to disarm them. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Funny how that works, huh?
-Canada may have less gun deaths per capita but you can also go to jail for calling someone the wrong pronoun. IE: Once you lose your first amendment rights, you'll see why you needed your 2nd amendment ones.
Additionally this post implies the gun is the issue. If i sit here and tell my gun to shoot. It won't. A human has to pull the trigger. This is a people problem.
>>769034827
Most of these school shootings are done by underage kids who can't even buy the fucking guns. Having laws that fuck over law abiding citizens and does nothing to stop people to get guns illegally only pisses off those who do things how they should and are not criminals.
Also OP
>>769032315
>1) all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database.
This does not stop people gaining firearms illegally and also firearms smuggled in illegally.
>2) guns should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
If you are convicted of a crime which would require jail time, it should be taken away like the 13 and 19 are. Criminals don't deserve rights. A fine or ticket is a different story as most people can get those based on how the cop is feeling.
>3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
Anyone under 21 should not be able to buy a gun at all and should require a 10+ hour safety course to be able to buy them on top of concealed carry. Kids don't need guns.
>4) fuck the NRA. Gun safety should be practiced and not preached.
Preaching is the best way to get people to know about it. Also most gun owners practice gun safety and lock their guns in safes. How many school shootings are stopped because the kid can't get access to the gun is impossible to know.
I'm no gun flinging Republican, just a libertarian expressing how I feel making it safer and harder to get for criminals is better. Also no laws stop illegal guns or smuggling.
>>769037398
>Metal detectors and armed guards in all public buildings.
That would be extremely expensive.
>>769037533
Imagine being pro life in 2018
>its the current year
Flawless Logic there John Oliver.
can't do that
Only thing to do is embrace guns and get used to the wild west lifestyle
It's gonna just like dirty Harry everywhere
And there's gonna be like no crime (besides shootings)
>>769034825
>durr
>hurr
>>769036143
How does it feel tk have an IQ below 83?
>>769037846
Jesus christ I love coming across people like this on 4chan. Well said.
>>769037533
I know right? Imagine being so retarded as to care about children getting yanked apart with forceps and their body parts sold, or the shooting death of tens of thousands by democrat voters, when you can be outraged by the death of a few hundred that are occasionally done by white kids.
>>769032315
The ignorance and bigotry I see all over these threads make me sick to my fucking stomach. We're the most evolved species on this planet, the human neocortex is the most complex organic structure found in nature. We are fucking better than this. When are you people going to realize that we're all on this planet together and it's time to make the best of it before it's too fucking late and we destroy our own civilization.
Try having some fucking compassion for your fellow human beings instead of buying bigger guns and walling yourself off from the world. What a simple unabashed fucking disgrace. If there are aliens they are watching us and laughing their fucking asses off.
>>769032315
>all dicks should be illegal to prevent rape
>>769036418
Ridiculous strawman, arhueing for more gun control is not the same as saying "we gonna come take away all de guns"
>>769036768
>im so solipsistic that i dont seemother peoples lives as havjng value.
Pussy.
>>769032315
Stop shit posting FBItards
This is why you're a laughing stock at the CIA
>>769032315
personally i think they should RFI chip weapons, and requirement of ownership of semi auto weapons requires military training, if not enlistment at some point
the added bonus of chipping weapons would make it super easy to catch criminals (put the chip deep in the weapon to prevent easy on the spot removal)
>>769037314
>muh blacks shoot more
>discussing school shooting
You are so retarded that you don't even understand what makes you sound like a moron
>>769038107
Tell me, I've always wondered. I have a +3sd IQ (national merit scholar).
>>769038160
hilarious bait. well done anon. People are tribal by nature. Get over it.
>>769037072
The same kids come here every day but go ahead and act like you're better than these brainlets
>>769038333
>I have a +3sd IQ (national merit scholar).
>Infact, im so smart that I make baseless assertions claiming im a smarty on the 4chans.
>>769038200
Arguing for more gun control, because doing something is better than doing nothing, is equally retarded considering that history has shown this approach to be worthless and ineffective.
>>769038325
>thinks anyone gives a shit what you think about a few hundred kids dead from school shooting when you support the death of millions by abortion
>>769038441
Really? What about all of the countries where it has worked? What history are you refering to?
>>769038439
You got it midwit. Now go back to your bedroom, the adults are talking.
>>769038468
Abortion isnt murder you autistic fuck. Even it was doea that mean that we should keep shooting the living children while theh are in school? What retaded shit are you on about?
>>769037072
>white
>cant stand life
You have more fucking opportunities, no cops out to kill you, and more women of your race want to fuck you vs. fuck a black man like me. All these advantages and you kill yourself.
You gotta grow some balls white teens seriously what more do you want? The world is already made to serve you
>>769038134
Thanks anon. I don't necessarily think I'm going to change people's minds but if they read what I say they might start thinking about stuff differently. Which is a step in the right direction imho
>>769038549
What learning disability do you struggle with?
>>769037846
Mhm. Cause its niggas and Mexicans shooting up schools.
You know what?
FUCK the children. The planet is overpopulated as it is.
Try this on for size faggots:
Any increase in gun regulation is an increase in the damage done to the planet by the retards that would be saved.
Don't you FUCKING CARE about your planet!?!?!
>>769038488
Prohibition faggot.
>>769038373
Have fun being a disservice to the species and a backwards link in the evolutionary chain. People like you are the reason the world is as fucked up as it is. Keep thinking with your lizard brain.
>>769037846
Dont sugarcoat it. Its a white people problem. Get your kids in check.
>>769038589
>>769038379
The problem with these school shooters is they don't get laid. Anyone who is smashing puss on the regular would never do something like this. They've got all their testosterone out in the form of semen.
We need to get sluts on this. Whores will save this country.
Ladies, give up your cooter to stop a shooter.
>>769038157
I will have a kid just to torture it for the entirety of its life just because of you. But I'll make sure it can't die because that's bad.
>>769038488
Also, dont make me type out all the differences between America and these other countries that absolutely have a significant impact on the success of such laws. You and everyone else already understand this even if you choose to ignore it.
>>769038705
The stat I was calling out for being inaccurate without context was that canada has less deaths per 100,000 people. I was saying you're comparing apples to oranges. Its like comparing the stats of the US with Luxembourg. The entire country is as big as most of our metropolitan areas.
1.Funny how the libs are the ones pushing the fascist motive to disarming any potential of a resistance to tyranny.
2.if you dont like americas liberty the move.
3. III%
4. If you think common people couldn't stop the us millitary explain how America wont vietnam.
My rights dont end where your feelings begin.
>>769038774
I hope aliens come and we all band together as one. But until that happens we won't. But keep on fighting the good fight. Good luck with your citizen of the world bullshit Mr. College Professor regurgitation machine anon
>>769038758
Prohibition isnt relevant. Its a poor analogy for guns, a much better comparison is to guns in countries that had issues with them that share a similiar culture to our own like australia once did.
Why do people even try to argue with anyone trying to say that guns shouldn't be regulated? They're the same people that think abortion should be legal. Just go find one, shoot him and move on. Eventually they'll all be dead and you can hand over your guns and have a safer and smarter country.
>>769039043
Abortion should be mandatory.
>>769038859
No one denies the existence of those diffrences only the impact that they have and our ability to address them in the law.
>>769039043
abortion should be legal. Guns shouldn't be regulated. I like freedom. Not sure why you don't
>>769038962
You're a retard.
Russians occupied strategic points in the country in order to prevent the US from making any sort of push in those areas without provoking nuclear war. The US had no nearby stations to work from and it was just a stupid move altogether.
>>769039039
Wait. Legislation to remove access to something isn't relevant?
Fuck you and your weak fucking argument. You're just as bad as the gun rights retards.
>>769039121
illegal is what I meant.>>769039043
>>769039160
Right
>>769039192
You're argument is more pretentious then you Madame
>>769039122
Their (your?) delusion IS denial.
That's the point.
>>769039192
Blames russia.
Hi dem
>>769039160
Because fear.
Not too hard to understand, but tough to respect...
>>769038962
>1.Funny how the libs are the ones pushing the fascist motive to disarming any potential of a resistance to tyranny.
No they are not. Youre retarded. More strict gun control measures is not "take away every gun NOW" dipshit.
>2.if you dont like americas liberty the move.
Learn to type
>3. III%
>4. If you think common people couldn't stop the us millitary explain how America wont vietnam.
>America wont vietnam
Younknow there was an intense political climate that basically fucked us right? We should have know better going in but its really hard to fight a battle when china says they will drop a fucking army on you if you so much as cross an arbitrary line that has enemey combatants on the other side. China spent what would be billions today on that war effort.
>>769032315
1) I don't see how ALL GUNS can be accountable without violating the 4th Amendment
2) Thats a nice idea but if you tell a deranged people you're going to take them to court to take away their guns aren't they just going to shoot up a place before the court case?
3) I don't agree with this idea of you can vote, join the military, buy a playboy, buy cigarettes at 18 but oh my god you can't drink or buy a pistol at 21. Either you're an adult or you're not pick an age for fucks sake. However, if it was purposes into law then I wouldn't really oppose it.
4) NRA and most gun owner do practice safety with their firearms, failing to see your point.
>>769038572
Abortion is murder you autistic fuck, and you and your fellow travellers don't just ignore it, you fucking celebrate it and fund the killers.
>>769037919
Good thing the US is an extremely wealthy country and can afford it. If you're not going to severely crack down on how easy it is to acquire firearms then armed guards is the only real counter to people walking into schools and gunning people down.
>>769039215
Prohibition is in fact irrelevant. It is not a good model for gun control at all. To start with prohibition banned all alchohol where as gun control measures dont look to ban all guns. They are too diffrent, its not a relevant comparison. Apples and oranges, just becuase they are both kinda round and come from a tree doesnt make them good analogs for eachother.
>>769039330
Thats not a coherent statement.try again.
>>769039436
Crying
More crying
Crying.
First register the weapons.
Then disarm everyone.
You obviously know fuck all about war.
Mos 0372 checking out.
>>769036298
well for starters we need to get down and open our ass's for the sweet sweet benetration of our kike overlords.
I'm about to go all Barry McCockiner on this thread.
>>769039728
>Things i dont like are crying
>IM IGNORING YOU
>i give up.
>>769039802
No.
You're just crying.
>>769039802
Don't give up princess
>>769039802
Isn't that what most people do to you.
>ignore you.
>>769037708
They are not capable of reason, let it happen
>>769039655
It's relevant because it is evidence that removing all of something impossible.
Sorry that's so hard for you to understand.
>>769036143
Different anon fuck off with this shit the "children" that are being "murdered" are unwanted so forcing people to raise and care fore them will make the parent(s) resent them or they get throw into foster care where there are tons of people who aren't fit to take care of children somehow taking care of children. You're advocating to bring more misery to this already dreadful exist that is life.
>>769039570
Your sarcasm fails miserably. faggot.
>>769040103
Again. FUCK the children.
They receive way too much coddling and attention as it is, which is part of this problem.
>>769039841
>>769039887
>>769040008
Cry more niggers.
>>769040254
I laughed.
>>769040044
If you knew how to fucking read maybe youd relize that gun control doesnt mean removing all of something.
I only explained it multiple times, what is so hard about that to understand for you? Do you have sone learning diability that prevents you from reading and understanding that ive already addressed that point? What is wrong with you?
>>769040315
I will oblige
>>769040315
>>769040315
Professional cry mo nigga
>>769040458
Oh, let me help you better understand..
You see, you advocate for banning types of guns in their entirety. I.e. AR15, semi auto, etc... or, you advocate for banning magazines of a certain size...
This, in fact, is a form of prohibition. Perhaps you're the one with the learning disability.
>>769040315
How can you monsters not answer this mans cries for more niggers
Are we 4chan or are we feds
>>769040103
There are also options besides killing the child for the mother's bad decisions, such as adoption. For every couple that doesn't want their child, there are plenty who are unable to have children, and would love to adopt a kid into a kind and loving home. I have twin sisters that were adopted, because the mother came from a long line of women that had 6 kids by the time they were 17, and my parents had no success at having kids at the time.
And, before you go on telling me about what a chore it is to bring a child to term and the effect on the mother, deal with it. There are consequences to our actions and choices in life, and another's life shouldn't have to be snuffed out because you got drunk and slept with some dude who doesn't QUITE know how to play a guitar.
Like the wiiiiiiiings
Of - an angellllll
Oooo oooohh oooo
>>769040458
To be fair, for every person calling for responsible gun control, there's a couple in the back demanding we repeal the 2nd Amendment. Just as for every person who is a responsible gun owner, there's some asshole redneck or inner-city gang-banger to ruin the case.
No, you aren't talking about taking away all of the nation's guns, but there's plenty of your friends that are.
>>769035036
>>769032315
Shall not be infringed. I don't give a fuck about dead kids.
>>769041113
If you fuck a dead child is it still paedophilia?
Just askin ..... for a friend.
(Preferably one who's a dead child)
>>769035949
maybe we start teaching firearm safety in school again...and civics again... and maybe, maybe we eliminate gun free zones... all a gun free zone is, is a clearly defined soft target. when you don't know who's packing heat, you're less likely to go there and carry out your evil intent.
remember that asshole that shot up the movie theatre in colorado...he visited 18 locations beforer he found one that was labeled "gun free zone".
guess which one he picked?
>>769037073
>S&W XD
no we don't want your kind shooting thanks
>>769032315
>>769041246
In alaska marksmanship is an option for PE
>>769041246
Never gonna happen.
Only in Ameri- oh, wait >>769041353
>>769035852
Agreed
>>769041367
Any school shootings in alaska?
>>769032315
Lol 12000 children. There's not even that many gun related crimes in a year. Gotta love leftist lies
>>769041482
Look at tge statistics.
Black people are the majority of prisoners in the US.
They are black which means they are assault people.
>>769041577
120,000,000 children!?!
>>769041246
We've had guns around since the birth of our nation, and semi-automatics have been around for over a century. However, school shootings are becoming much more frequent, so let's look at some of the other factors in play.
1. There used to be over 400,000 high schools in the US. Now, there's less than 100,000, but our population has grown much larger. That means more kids crammed into fewer schools, and with a teacher shortage, that means kids are being neglected, ignored and can fall through the cracks in the system. There is literally not enough time and energy to go around to every student and develop a meaningful relationship with them. But, we throw money at schools to buy them fucking Ipads so we feel better.
2. Economy has changed. Most households can't afford to work based on a single-income, and so both parents (if there are still two parents) are working, and also don't have time for their kids. Kid comes home from school, depressed and despondent to an empty home, and parents who are too tired to deal with them.
If any of us actually want to Make America Great Again, I would propose we bring back the family in our country.
>>769032378
>politicians are corrupt and take special interest money
>ALL GUNZ TO POLITICIANS
>>769041700
120 BILLION CHILDREN EVERY SECOND ARE DYING
>>769036573
There you go bringing race into the discussion. All white men are terrorists reeeeeeeeeee
>>769040507
>>769040470
>>769040615
Meanwhole you respond with your saved cuck porn. Really says a lot about you
>all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database
I don't understand why so many Americans have an aversion to the concept of a gun registry. I'm all for gun rights and I'm a gun owner myself, but I really don't see the problem with the police knowing who owns what gun.
>>769041778
Somebody please
>Think of the children
>>769041084
>plenty of your friends that are.
Bullshit and dont call them my friends even if they pretend to be on "my" side. For every 200 people that say we need more gun control laws there may be as much as one person who honestly belives that we need to ban all guns, then there is maybe one other person who just doesnt understand it. Dont think everyone who wants better laws around guns is the same as the SJW screaming at tumblr just becuase the timblr bitch is louder and more sensational. Take the time to understand niether side is a monolith and that a reasonable middle ground is fine for most people on most sides, the fringe 2 in 200 on either side can be safely ignored.
>>769041353
>>769041423
Its almost like this is a rare pccurance for them and news worthy, where as jn the US it goes in the local paper.
>>769041837
Mfw I'm an assualt person.
A roody poo.
Naturally good at sports even though I'm lazy
>>769041988
If you know any people who served in the UK military before their massive firearms ban and ensuing crackdown, they'll tell you. I know a guy who was former SAS and was the lead sniper for their version of SWAT, and on the day the ban went into effect, he answered his doorbell to find his own unit at his door with about 15 rifles aimed at him. He had already begun the process to immigrate to the US, and had shipped all of his firearms over. They checked the registry against a friend reading off the serial numbers, and if they weren't satisfied he would have gone to prison.
We specifically tried to avoid any national registry like that because of the events surrounding the American Revolution. Lexington and Concord were directly the results of the British army being given orders to seize our weapons.
>>769041988
Go study history and you will see why people dont want a registry.
>>769041701
Maybe we should fund schools more aggressively and make it so kids dont slip through those cracks? Its too bad the same people saying we dont need to change gun laws also often feel we should keep school budgets as low as we can. Schools are one of the best incestments we can make, they help everyone even those that dont go.
>>769041837
Cuck porn.
>Because interracial sex is cuckolding.
I get it. It's like how liberals don't actually support liberty
>>769042346
anytime a weebo fucks an asian girl
>also cuck porn
>>769042218
Mfw stands for my face when
You didn’t post a reaction pic
>>769042148
>Neither side is a monolith
That's exactly what I just said. The problem is in any argument of this scale, the extremists get lumped in with the moderates on both sides. And our representatives in government (if they actually listen at all) hear the screaming tumblr bitch louder than you or I, just as they hear Cleetus and his 7 sister-daughters.
But to have "reasonable middle ground" we have to both agree that it's reasonable, or else it's not really middle ground at all, eh?
>>769042280
Start with Austria's vote for hitler
>>769042473
This is true. Just like I said here
>>769037846
>>769042465
Oh gee i fucking apologize.
Please forgive my transgressions you faggot.
>>769041988
Because the only thing its good for is enacting bans.
Registries are hugely expensive in both time and money, and don't include illegal firearms nor recover stolen firearms, theres no way to tell how accurate it is as firearms can change hands several times long before audit periods.
Then theres also the issue of database safety, in Aus for instance there have been 8 publicly exposed instances where police have sent copies of the registry either accidentally to people, and in a couple of cases sold registries to gangs.
Canda scrapped theirs after going several hundred million over budget, and being unable to show any benefit for the huge cost blowout.
Its just a thing that anti-gunners think is good, because they haven't thought much into it, or because its always easier to pick on legal firearm owners than actually try and fix the cause of the problem.
>>769042663
The purpose of a gun registry is to return lost firearms.
Because the gun grabbers want to make sure we get them back right
>>769042343
Actually, I'm from Texas, where the most massive part of our budget goes to education. And yes, I know that our education is usually ranked near the bottom of the nation's. Many studies are showing that just throwing money at the problem doesn't fix anything. My girlfriend teaches at a high school where 95% of the kids are on government assistance, but they're all getting new Ipads next year. How does that help anyone?
That's why I'm saying we should reallocate the funding into re-opening more schools and hiring more teachers. Smaller classes=fewer shootings.
Or, no pushing the college angle so hard. A lot of these kids seem to lack a plan or have any sort of security once they leave school and aren't intending to go to college. Make more vocational training programs for kids, so they can move into the job market better, and make better money with a diploma.
>>769037477
>>769032315
Mfw.
(Heres a pic you millenial twink)
Black vietnam VFW.
>>769042343
Why is this now an issue? Why have mass school shootings become a thing? Before Columbine, it was only inner city blacks shooting other gang members. Then after Columbine they started to get more and more frequent. But guns have always been easy to get. Back before 1984 you didn't have to do a ba k ground check and there were no school shootings. Back before 1934 you could buy full auto from Sears and there were no mass shootings (except for organized crime). Our gun laws have only gotten tougher in the last 100 years so why has the last 20 years seen a increase in people snapping and shooting up their school?
IMO, the generation that has grown up indoors, with over protective parents (usually divorced), babied their entire life, told they are perfect, etc. Only to find in the real world they are no body and no one gives a shot about them. They are weird ass kids that no one wants to be around because they stayed inside and never socialized. The shooters are almost never popular kids or kids whis parents were still married. Or kids who spent time outdoors hunting, fishing, camping, etc with their families.
>>769037053
>>769042743
If you dont push them towards college then how else are liberals supposed to continue brain washing them into thinking all white men are evil?
>>769037533
Imagine implying millions of people across the US are stupid for disagreeing with you. Imagine your political party's platform employs the same strategy. Imagine how many Trumps this will get elected in the future.
>>769032315
This. Gun control =/= gun ban.
>>769043022
It's because people raise their damn kids like shit.
>>769032315
1) fuck you
2) fuck you
3) fuck you
4) fuck you
>>769033046
>>769043284
Ban semi auto cuz no one needs them to hunt
Ban shot guns because they can hit multiple people without having to aim
Ban hand guns cuz they are easily concealed
Ban bolt action hunting rifles (sniper rifles) because they can hit a target from a mile away
These are all things gun control advocates have pushed for in the last 20 years. The end result of gun control in a total ban
Link to the local news reporter with the neighbor saying that the feds visited the shooters home before. Audio is kind of crackly, but it's the only video I've seen yet of it..
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=oqdhruH-E8E
I hooktubed the vid of the rundown some guy did so when yt eventually shoahs it, there's a backup.
https://webm.xyz/webm/5aff2a3b80dbdd000f48a6ed
>>769043365
Really because it seems that all, if not most of the shooters came from liberal parents.
>>769042729
Well yknow, they could save the hundreds of millions of dollars and just ask firearm owners to keep a secure list of their serials in case they get stolen.
Seems like most stolen firearms get cut down or are recovered from poor conditions coated in rust and can't be returned to their owners anyway...
>>769037461
You seem to be lackin in philosophical consistency. Focuses on mass shooting rather than gun violence as a whole. Mass shooting make up a small amount of gun related deaths. You compare a tree to the forest.
>>769043022
>Back before 1984 you didn't have to do a ba k ground check and there were no school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
>>769035949
And yet we have over 1.3 million registered gun owners. Perhaps it's a cultural problem and not a physical weapon problem. Quit blaming the inanimate object for your degeneracy.
>>769044141
Or start asking niggers to stop stealing guns from registered owners and using them in violent crimes.
>>769032315
more people die in car crashes than shootings.
>>769045471
ban cars
>>769045515
>>769045471
Kids aren't taking their dad's car to kill many other kids.
Ban swimming pools.
>>769036143
>calling abortions murders
die in a fire and stop ruining my world with all your extra shitfuck babies
Ban fertilizer
Ban trucks
>>769044141
People really ought to do this without being told.
Keep receipts on large purchases. Things like your car title. Your tax history. All that shit that's just a small task to manage can save yourself a headache in the future. Might even save your ass from doin time
Ban drugs
Oh wait!
>>769032315
I don't want the feds knowing my guns. Fucking communist.
>>769032315
Source please. Also shill harder snowflake
>>769045515
>>769045708
>>769045800
>>769045893
It's time we faced reality, gentlemen. Bans are ineffective, and waste enormous amounts of taxpayers' money. We must do the right thing.
Ban bans.
>>769045800
the OK city bombing would have to happen literally every day to keep up with gun deaths and for your point to be valid and not droolingly fucking retarded, which it is.
>>769033812
>>769033812
But Americans can debate immigration laws in Europe?
>>769032315
>>769035949
>is 1/5 that of the US
Nigger you can't reload when your hands are sticky from maple syrup
>>769036874
>>>being this retarted
Bam democracy.
Uneducated people shouldn't be allowed to participate in national choices.
Even Socrates hated democracy.
Ban self defense
When rape is inevitable, enjoy it.
>>769045893
just imagine if you had to have a federally mandated license to operate a truck, and if the truck or license could be seized by the government
>>769038309
>>769035036
>We shouldn't have X law because it won't be 100% effective.
Can you name a single law that doesn't have loopholes?
Should we get rid of immigration laws because millions of illegals are coming into the US anyway?
>>769038200
Actually it's exactly that because millions of people who own that type of gun will be presented the choice of submit to buyback or be strongarmed by police to surrender it. Such a bill succeeding will beget more gun restriction and so it goes.
>in b4 slippery slope fallacy when it's anything but one
>>769046134
Define uneducated. You fucking comy shit piece.
Anyone feel like going for a drive
along the beach?
>>769046272
People like you
>>769032315
If all liberals were deported from the USA tomorrow, there would be no gun crime for the next 30 years.
Statistical fact.
Remove all fucking liberals from the United States. Send them to London where they can stab each other. Send them to Gaza where they can send their children into a combat zone and complain about it.
Just get liberals the fuck out of here so we can own guns without their criminal acts destroying our country.
>>769038333
>I have a +3sd IQ (national merit scholar)
And yet still not smart enough to not say something as vapid as “I have a +3sd IQ (national merit scholar)”
When women are accusing you of date rape in college, you’re going to be genuinely surprised, I guarantee it.
>inb4 “but I’m a National Merit Scholar, and I told her several times . . . how could she not want my dick?”
>>769046272
https://youtu.be/fLJBzhcSWTk
Gunfacts.info
Gun Facts™ debunks common myths about gun control. It is intended as a reference guide for journalists, politicians and anyone interested in learning about gun control facts and restoring honesty to the debate about guns, crime, and the Second Amendment.
>>769045618
you sure?
>>769046284
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack
Kek
>>769045752
But abortions are murder. There may be a social good to them (spawn of irresponsible sluts and degenerates not being loosed upon society), but it’s still murder.
Pretending they’re not, or they’re a civil liberties choice, is why you’ll continue to get called baby killers until the end of time. Own that it’s a mercy killing, and that shit will go away.
>>769046272
I shot commies and fascists in spain in the 1980's you little cunt.
Millenials have no clue what communism or fascism even looks like.
But keep getting your facts from facebook sensationalism.
>>769046769
He is too retarded to accept an unbiased stance, no need to converse with him. Abortion isn't murder when a womam does it, and when a man slips something in her drink to miscarriage it, it is. This is due to gynocentrism in the west and politicians pandering to women, if you don't like how the laws blatantly have double standards then all you need to do is stop women fron voting.
>>769046769
Abortion is murder.
A necessary murder.
Unwanted children become criminals.
Maybe some of those school shooters parents are reflecting on the biggest mistake of their lives
Having a kid they couldn't raise to be a decent human being.
>>769032315
Ignorant OP think he can take guns from citizens and world will be safe.
Instead, criminals will find other ways to commit mass murder, like they already do in EU nations.
Should we just bubble wrap everyone and put them all in a cage to keep everyone safe? How far do you go in banning objects before you grasp that it is not the object that is responsible for the crime... It's the person.
>>769032315
wow 4chan sux now. only liberal pussies lurk anymore...
>>769047106
Oi mate, lend your blade?
>>769047169
Yeah.
first 2 rules should have never been broken.
>>769032315
>Reminder:
The USA is a Republic. There are democratic processes in this Republic; but we are a Republic. This is so the majority cannot strip certain rights from the minority.
>Reminder:
The 2nd amendment does not give citizens the right to bear arms. It only states that the government does NOT have the ability to infringe upon that right. Even if the second amendment was revoked, the citizens would still have the right to bear arms.
>Reminder:
Powers that be seek to divide the USA on every front possible. We need to unite under a banner of shared values. We are stronger together.
I hope you all enjoy your Saturday!!
>>769032315
stop acting like you guys have any power to do a single fucking thing other than cry on the internet
and the rest of you. just laugh at these idiots until they get distracted by another useless social media outrage.
a week from now a nigger, acting like a nigger will get shot and all their attention will be on attacking the 70 yr old white man who had the "white privilege" to defend himself in his own home.
Liberals have become a fucking joke.
>>769047106
It's okay lad, shhhh. We all know OP is a faggot and gun control is a direct violation of the constitution, but it is because they are weak of mind and body, so they value security over freedom. This is why most all women lean left in politics, so the baby manginas and the fefes and wawas help push their control and security agenda, it doesn't matter if you can disprove them with facts and evidence, because they are emotionally driven. If you want to fix the problem then all you need to do is end their ability to push their agendas, namely their voting rights.
>>769046769
>>769047032
fine, its murder if you want to call chopping down a tree murder as well. and stepping on an ant is murder.
my problem isnt that you are trying to indicate the ending of a life (i'd argue it's preventing a life rather than ending but w/e), its that you call it "murder" like its cold blooded, evil-inspired devilry. Theres a connotation connected with that word and your use of it is intentional to take advantage of that fact. You are trying to change opinion with that connotation.