sooo many school shootings, why are thoughts and prayers not working? Maybe its time to ban all guns, there are too many uneducated, trailer trash that believe God wills save them from these bullets. uy uy uy get your shit together trailer trash
12% of the population 50% of the crime
There are also too many who believe that banning guns will solve it. Protip: if the people doing this shit cared about laws, they wouldn't be doing this shit.
Pic related.
>>769004570
Banning all guns is absolutely the solution to school shootings. Screw the rednecks and their stockpiles of assault riffles.
>>769004570
Officinalis is legal fuckhead.
There are no photos of any victims and hardly any details about the victims. The only proof we have that the shootings are taking place is cnn. Prove me wrong by posting actual proof that the Sante fe shooting took place. You cant
It's mainly white kids being shot down, so meh, who cares?
>>769005543
America hasn't had a school shooting since Chuckles climbed up that tower in Austin
FAKE NEWS!!!!
>>769005680
10 nogs die every week in chicago, alone
no one cares
Good to see some fellow left wing representation among /b/'s usual population of ironic extremist trolls.
>>769005298
My.. what a big brain you have. Tell us.. what do you use it for? I've not seen any indication of any intelligence.
>>769005994
Post a photo of any blood or victim from the Santa fe shooting or gtfo. Protip you can't because there are none
>>769005411
>Salvia-officnalis-SAGE.jpg
... this your first day on 4chan?
>>769006077
How fucken retarded can you be? Seriously... there is something really wrong with you.
>>769006077
>hurrr prove your personal political beliefs to me and engage me in debate because i said so
Give me one good reason to even give you the time of day.
>>769006077
Thoughts and Prayers, you need it bad.
>>769003869
We all just need to think and pray harder.
>>769004165
rape their own family members isnt a crime too?
>>769003869
Or just ban trailer trash, since they seem to be causing the problem. Just like how if we ban muslims, we can solve terrorism.
>>769005873
>>769005873
and das raycis, but the media won't catch any flak for only reporting on the white deaths
>>769003869
>God wills save them
>politicians will save us
>>769006172
>>769006172
OMG guys he said "seriously". He gets EXTRA credibility points over the opponent.
>>769007206
He also said "really". DOUBLE points.
>>769004165
whites committed 70% of crimes in 2017
so if a school is sorrounded by police officers is not enough proof, then America is doomed
>>769005873
yeah, but that's normal nigger on nigger shit
white kids are supposed to matter
>>769004165
Except it was a wh*Te shooter, again.
>>769007524
This including "petty" crimes?
Also your god emperor wrote blessings to all in his tweeter so the shooting is true
>>769007750
who said it was false?
>>769007750
just like Obama's birth certificate
>>769007524
how much VIOLENT crime per capita in relation to population tho?
>>769006172
>>769006308
>>769006529
All talk no evidence. I'll accept photos from vegas shooting and sandy hook as well. Provide a clear photo and I'll eat my words
I fit the profile of all these school shooters but never even considered it as I'm a bong, what is it about the US that makes them snap?
>>769008314
National culture of gun worship
>>769008314
Realization that they've been handed an ultimatum on lies: "Believe and perpetuate at all cost or die"
>Solving 5 CAPTCHA's again
I must be telling the Truth tonight!
>>769005874
can confirm, am progresive posting on b/
>>769007744
that's still crime
Ban all guns like we banned alcohol before and banned most drugs now? Yes of course that will work. Jesus fucking christ. I actually want them to so the civil war can just start already.
>>769008948
Defending my life, hunting and sport = gun worship? Seems like too many people have simply lost their testicles. Weapons will ALWAYS be a factor with people. Those with the most rule the rest.
>>769007524
and yet black people still constantly whine they dindunuffin and get unfairly arrested, despite the fact more whites are arrested
>>769005298
funny that it ends up never being a redneck child that does it
just some faggot that looks like you
>>769003869
Don't act like you care about kids getting shot. You just care about your political stance. Same goes for everybody else.
>>769011100
cyn·i·cal
ˈsinək(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
>>769011201
Yes. And?
>>769009956
"Petty" crimes aren't "violent" crimes, there's a difference. Try committing one and persuading a judge they are the same in light of sentencing.
>>769011272
It means just because you are a paranoid cynic doesn't mean you are right.
>>769010281
That's why they want them
>>769008116
Only the middle one is me. So, again, give me one good reason to prove anything I believe to you. I never asked to argue about this and I'm not interested. If you want an opportunity to prove me wrong by having me fail to convince you, you'll have to convince me to even try to convince you at all, because I'm simply not interested. I came here to say it's nice to say some fellow leftists playing the meme game. That's all. Over and out. I didn't come to participate in your shitty debate.
This whole thread is a meme, by the way. You're not even arguing with who you think you are. It's all bait. The fact that you couldn't see that really speaks to the idiocy of the far right.
>>769011100
just because you dont have morals doesnt mean other people dont as well.
you are a solipsist and a shitty person who has no empathy.
>>769011486
And just because you are not a paranoid cynic doesn't mean you are right. There, we're both right. Now we're arguing whose right and not about guns.
>>769011100
Not really, I truly care about my ability to shoot at authorities who are at my door unjustly trying to exert their "authority", for little to no reason other than they simply desire what I have.
>>769011662
You're wrong though.
>>769011836
No. You're wrong!
>>769011836
I agree with him
>>769011836
>>769011866
>You're wrong though.
>No. You're wrong!
damn, did you guys do debate team in high school or something?
>>769011836
>You're wrong just because labels
This is what the left wants, to label you
>>769011836
>>769011866
>>769011898
>>769011941
No, I'm wrong!
>>769012048
No, we're all wrong!
I hope they do ban guns. I want an open conflict so I can get the jews, shitskins and cuck leftists out of my fucking country.
ban all schools is clearly the solution
a school shooting can't take place if there are no schools
>>769003869
Because there is an election coming and democrats are desperate.
>>769011585
Never said I didn't care, just said nobody else actually does.
>>769003869
Dear Murica
The rest of the world is still laughing its ass of at you,
Best wishes
The civilised world (the bit with gun regulations)
>>769012175
protip: they'll never ban guns. its in our constitution.
i'd bet money though on universal background checks and waiting periods becoming law within 5-10 years though.
bump stocks will be banned by all states, if not federally, by then as well.
>>769012175
Not a good idea. If we leftists leave the country, it'll lose a great deal of labor capital. Don't tell me you've never heard of California.
>>769012268
Well gee, sounds like you're the hero we all need! Save us, Mister Philanthropy!
>>769012392
I would like nothing more than your kind to melt into the liquid shit you are. And Commifornia can't sink into the ocean soon enough.
>>769012406
Neh, I'm just the hero you deserve.
I'm just waiting for
>It's the right's fault
>It's the left's fault
>Nothing gets done
>Forget about it
>Jewish Subversion
>Start over again
When will Marilyn Manson stop making kids shoot up schools!!?
>>769012709
never hes a fucking cuck who literally sucks his own dick
>>769012709
It's not Marilyn's fault it's the video games, rap music, metal music, guns, TV, economy but definitely not mental illness or the lack or morality.
>>769012324
Kekkek so true
>>769012631
Again, if that happened, you'd lose a great deal of labor capital.
We basically make your shit run. If you lose the leftists, you lose the basic skills and resources necessary to survive in the modern era. Driving us out is economic suicide. Real patriotic of you to want to cause the collapse of your own nation over a political disagreement. "Out of YOUR country" indeed.
>kid gets bullied
>kid has no friends
>kids parents (if he has any) work or are self absorbed
>Kid gets on computer
>finds 4chan
>over 9000 bullied
>kid thinks if he gets the high score, he wins
it's all 4chan's fault
>>769012324
See, no one cares about the kids.
>>769012860
How do we fix the mental inllness problem? America is already way over prescribed. As to the lack of morality, while true. It's a vague statement and you can't find a good suloution if your problem is stated in unclear terms.
>>769012978
I assure you, we'll be fine. A step back from technology and jew run banking would be a huge improvement. You must be trolling or completely indoctrinated into your own bullshit.
>>769013197
>>>769012860
>How do we fix the mental inllness problem? America is already way over prescribed. As to the lack of morality, while true. It's a vague statement and you can't find a good suloution if your problem is stated in unclear terms.
>pic related
>>769013082
That's the funniest bit
>>769013197
The pills are the problem. Find natural ways to fix our depression. On morality we have to stop making it seem like the world is evil and unfixable for starters, when you're younger and you are told that everything is shit AND you're on a pill that keeps your brain from thinking clearly then you don't see any hope in anything. You project what you think the world is onto each individual making it easier to pull a trigger.
>>769013343
Aaaanddd in comes the Jewish Subversion subplot.
>>769012324
>The rest of the world is still laughing its ass of at you
That is the furthest thing from out minds. Literally no shits given. Believe that 100%, no meme. You people mean nothing to us. Not even trying to be mean, it's just true.
>>769013420
what's funny about it? we would anyone care outside the america by common sense? they literally allow this to happen its a choice and they can prevent it by stricter laws. shit even two cops searching every student before they get in school would make sense.
>>769013482
Oh hai /pol/ did your mom finally wake you up so you could shave your head and whine about how you can't get a gf cos of muh jews?
>>769013564
I can second this as an American. For god sakes the british still have Kings and Queens and Royal Weddings and horse and carriages. We have Bruce Willis. Fuck everybody else.
>>769005298
Good luck taking those hundreds of millions of guns back.
>>769013655
Dude, I was making fun of him. see
>>769012661
>>769013441
I can't speak for you, but as I recall hwne I was young my teachers and adults near me painted the world as a pretty sunny place. It wasn't until I started watching news and going on the internet that I got the sense of the world being horrible that you describe.
>>769013619
Quiet pleb! Our evil plan is finally working
>>769013315
>A step back from technology...would be a huge improvement.
Do you really know this little about how the world works these days? A "step back from technology" (by the way, I think you mean a step back IN technology) would completely ruin our country's competitive capacity in international trade, as well as our ability to continue to produce our own energy surplus in light of the more accessible kinds of natural resources having been exhausted. The result would be agonizingly slow mass starvation. And I do mean slow, since the whole country is so fucking fat.
>>769003869
I wuz educated in college, longnose teacher said that gunz are bad and I agree you should gib gunz to end murda
>>769013564
this. nobody cares about an outside country unless it affects them directly
>>769013735
Soz bro, I just assumed you were an autist like the rest of them. You can still keep the assmonkey tatt image though!
>>769013783
No for me. I learned about Vlad, crusades, torture and all sorts of crazy shit.
>>769013949
Thank you good sir!
>>769003869
Yes turn a tragedy into a race bait on a image board you're part of the fucking problem you racist piece of shit
>>769013482
this country is fucked. we are on the brink of bankruptcy. the morals have vanished. we kill unborn babies, we bomb countries that are already in the stone age, and we elected a meme. this country is finished. we had a good run, but its over. eventually the countires we owe money to are going to call bullshit. the best thing everyone can do at this point is convert your cash into gold and move out of the USA.
>>769003869
Come take them faggot. Willing to bet I can take at least three San Fran ass-pirates before your mercs from DC take me down.
>>769006077
these conspiracy theorists make me laugh
when will you understand, that crime scene photographs are not public property? You keep asking for pictures and proof of dead people, when you laptop detectives are nobodies. NOBODIES. No family will ever want to share pictures of their dead children with internet scum who would still claim those are rubber dummy bodies and fake ketchup blood. Narcissistic autistic trash thinking that they are a fringe group, that know the real truth. GTFO with your shit, people die and you are so used to refuse any information given to youm, that you claim they are actors and it's all fake. What's wrong with you? Delusional idiots
>>769006029
Purely out of curiosity...have you been saving that pic for just this instance? Lmao
>>769014078
I can agree with you here my friend. I still have faith in this place, it's just hard to get us all to THINK.
>>769013823
>how the world works these days?
How the world works 'these fine days' is a carefully orchestrated plot to make the 1% gods of this world and it's working. Everything is geared to keeping us as low on the totem pole as possible, as deep in debt as possible and hating eachother as much as possible without causing all out conflict. We've been squeezed to our breaking point and it's basically an open tyranny at this point. Idiots like you think it's a good thing and it's just the way things are. Bullshit, it will not continue like this.
>>769005778
Same production company. Cali, Colo, Flor, and Tex are the majority of hosts for a reason.
>>769014276
>How the world works 'these fine days' is a carefully orchestrated plot to make the 1% gods of this world and it's working. Everything is geared to keeping us as low on the totem pole as possible, as deep in debt as possible and hating eachother as much as possible without causing all out conflict. We've been squeezed to our breaking point and it's basically an open tyranny at this point.
I agree with all of this. And Trump is a part of that system if I've ever seen one. As was the old Republican party he displaced, though they were at least superficially much better.
>Idiots like you think it's a good thing and it's just the way things are.
I disagree with this part.
>Bullshit, it will not continue like this.
I agree with this part. We, the left, are going to fix it.
>>769014139
Still waiting on pics
>>769013949
>>769013998
>The way the real world handles a problem
Both those posters would be dead now if they were typical muricans
>>769014482
The left won't fix a thing.
>>769014482
Not him, but I don't even know how to respond to this. It's like you believe everything I believe, but flipped backward in terms of right versus left.
Whatever. Clearly we have a common enemy. Even if we can't agree on who exactly it is, we can still cooperate to take them down.
>>769014769
The person who says it can't be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
>>769012324
>the world is still laughing its ass of at you
That's only because of your displaced anger over your Muslim invasion raping all your women.
>>769003869
Not that many school shootings compared to the population. Each individual has an insignificant chance of being killed in a school shooting.
>>769014877
Tell me how you are fixing it then?
>>769014482
>I agree with this part. We, the left, are going to fix it.
Fucking kek. Let's see, open borders, take the guns away from law abiding citizens, ban free speech and communism. That's the solutions? Robots? I know robots are in your harebrained plan somewhere too.
>>769003869
Chances are they wont need god to save them from the bullets. Very few people die in terrorist attacks.
>>769014935
Well don't forget that eurocucks think the usa is the same size as the uk.
>>769015009
You forgot divide the country into a million different pieces based off of color, status, gender and wealth. And then tell them all that the other one is to blame.
>>769013564
This why the fuck would I care about anything that doesn’t happen in my county it’s time to put America first! Not illegal immigrants! Fuck a sanctuary state
>>769014954
Alternative energy technology.
Which, again, you are reliant on and will starve if you lose us.
>>769015118
But anon, the right and the 1% are the ones that did and continue to do that.
>>769015118
I did forget that, thank you anon. Identity politics is the most cancerous thing to ever infect the west.
>>769015371
I agree. The right should stop relying so heavily on it.
>>769015414
You're just talking out your ass now.
>>769015414
Yes, it's the right that has No White's On Campus day and thinking diversity is skin color not intelligence.
>>769013441
>The pills are the problem.
So much this. The medical industry are just pill pushers selling drugs to kids and making sure they are addicted to it at an early age and convincing parents that popping pills is the only solution to every behavior problem. As long as America has had guns, these shootings weren't nearly the problem they are now before the advent of bullshit disorders like ADD or ADHD and the ridiculous medicine to cure them for profit. There used to be such a thing as discipline but this new political correctness culture destroyed that.
>>769015414
>The right should stop relying so heavily on it.
Well this is just a flat out lie.
>>769015567
This unironically, but replace "whites" with
"muslims or Spanish-speaking people regardless of legal citizenship."
Also how the Republicans and Trumptards make everything about a person's race and sex while the Democrats (who, for the record, I also don't trust) are the only ones who talk about actual important issues such as education and taking down the 1%.
>>769016012
It's true though. The right is excessively concerned with people's race and religion. Almost every campaign is just a frivolous witchhunt, and the exceptions are always all about how much money they have, which is another kind of identity politics.
>>769016070
Lol fucking Democrats be like we’re going to Tax the 1% XD
>>769015582
C-PTSD and depression as an effect of early childhood rape are real.
>>769016326
>(who, for the record, I also don't trust)
>>769016070
>actual important issues
Like which bathroom an attack helicopter gender fluid retarded potato should use while not offending the gay niggerloving muslim that identifies as a furry that fucks ponies.
>>769016435
>Like which bathroom an attack helicopter gender fluid retarded potato should use while not offending the gay niggerloving muslim that identifies as a furry that fucks ponies.
That wasn't the Democrats, that was Hillary.
Regardless it certainly wasn't me.
>>769003869
Ban religion and use the donations formerly given to churches for some proper healthcare instead. This isn't a gun problem, it's a mental health problem.
>>769003869
I say the best way to end all school shootings is to ban all schools. Problem solved.
>>769016279
Sure kid. That's why Shillary had to reduce herself to calling anyone that didn't support her as a racist alt-right bucket of deplorables.
>>769016388
Yeah and those are real problems that have nothing to do with what I was talking about.
>>769016504
It's not a mental health problem, retard. Less than 1% of gun crimes are committed by the legally mentally ill. You normal fucks just shoot people sometimes because you can't make friends.
>>769016496
>That wasn't the Democrats, that was Hillary
Hillary was running the Democratic party. Where have you been?
>>769016581
This, but unironically.
But replace "anyone that didn't support her" with "only the actual racist alt-righters."
The rest of the poor souls she lumped in with them are blood on her hands.
>>769004570
U r a dumb cunt. The reason there are no school shootings in other countries every week is because everyone’s mommy n poppy doesn’t have a shotgun or 7 at home just in case someone comes for your freedoms so u can pull the “u came to the wraaaang house” card macho bullshit. As if the US government decided to go full authoritarian, you think that shitty little gay not stockpile u got is gna do shit against a militarised police force
>>769016627
>It's not a mental health problem
So it's perfectly normal for kids to want to shoot other kids?
>>769016693
Not my Democratic party.
Not my president.
Not my political system.
Look, I was just born here, alright? I didn't agree to any of this shit.
>>769016799
Yes
>>769016762
>The rest of the poor souls she lumped in with them are blood on her hands.
If that isn't prejudice than I dunno what is.
>>769016884
Not my Democratic candidate.
Neither of them were.
>>769016831
>>769016910
Well for your sakes I really hope the Dems get their shit together and re-evaluation why they lost to someone like Trump.
>>769003869
nah, if you cant even make it to 20 without being killed then you dont deserve to be in the gene pool.
>>769016850
Sure kid, guns are the problem, not homicidal maniacs suffering from depression and anxiety.
At this point if you want to ban them, do it. Just do it. You'll save the country in a very different sort of way when you're lynched.
>>769017028
So do I. For everyone's sake. The right can't succeed in taking down the hidden ruling class -- the ones you think are "muh jews" and I don't, but are clearly our common enemy either way, as >>769014814 said -- because all the candidates for the right consistently represent said ruling class's interests. I'm not convinced the Democrats aren't in on it, too -- in fact, I'm almost sure they are -- but at least they *say* they want to take down the 1%, so even in the likely scenario that they're lying, at least it's a start. What we really need to do is reform the two party system to give parties like the green party a chance, but the electorates and special interest groups will never let that happen.
I want to impregnate trailer trash. Where should I go?
>>769017403
No candidate for any office can get in without funding from the 1%, they have to bend the knee. The first problem that has to end is campaign donations above the grass roots level. They take $1M from a corporation while in office, it's bribery and they go under the jail for it, for obvious reasons. Take $1M while running, it's a donation... What a joke.
>>769017153
By that logic the human race should die out, because no one can make it to 20 without being killed except by supervision and dumb luck. After all, toddlers are pretty useless at defending themselves, and can't exactly flee very quickly.
>>769003869
Banning all guns isn't the answer, and saying it plays into the terrified ignorant hands of the right wing. That is one of their main boogeymen, that someone wants to take all of their guns. Its extreme.
What you want is a federal system of licensing that requires extensive background checks and a psych eval, and safety training. Once you have that you can buy the first tier of guns, single action hunting rifles and shotguns.
The next tier, handguns and *some* semi-automatics require a higher level of license, which in turn requires a professional reason, ie running a shooting range, being a profession target shooter, or a collector, which requires regular inspections for compliance to storage regulations. There are also limits on mag capacity and amount of ammo you can own.
Some systems have handguns separate, requiring a dangerous profession like armored car guard or hunting guide, or in rare cases, a clear threat of death and an open police file to qualify.
Everything above that is restricted. Just like that, gun fetishist can still get their murder toys, and dangerous wackos are weeded out. I tend to think anyone opposed to this is a dangerous wacko who knows they would be unable to get a license due to their criminal or mental health issues.
safe transport and storage laws are helpful as well. Keep them locked up, and in a cabinet or gun case.
This is essentially the system we have in Canada and we have no mass shootings and very little gun crime, or violent crime in general.
>>769016763
If you want to call someone a dumb cunt, try make sure the first two words you type have more than two letters combined.
>>769017756
How man hood niggers and cholo gangsters does Canada have?
>>769017643
>No candidate for any office can get in without funding from the 1%,
This right here is a huge problem in and of itself. You're basically saying what I'm saying: the electors and special interest groups will never let it happen.
I agree that we need to restrict campaign donations to grass-roots level to prevent corruption, but we also have to do something about the need for donations to begin with. A campaign has to be able to achieve power and capacity for action via alternative means. It can't be money, because we know who controls the money.
Am I suggesting a revolution?
Maybe.
>>769017403
>The right can't succeed in taking down the hidden ruling class
Why would capitalists see this as a bad thing? As far as I can see, the Dems seem more interested in taxing the shit out of them to punish them for being rich and bring us all closer to socialism and make everyone equally poor and dependent on the government. This isn't simply a left or right issue but also an issue of managing our economy properly, which neither side seems genuinely interested in or capable of.
>What we really need to do is reform the two party system to give parties like the green party a chance,
I wish this would happen but it won't as long as the two main parties have a vested interest in using them as nothing more than a formality for sucking vote fodder to give the illusion of actual choice. As it is now they can't possibly win an presidential election. I really wish 4chinz or someone would start a kekistan party and steal all of the votes from the main parties and burn them both to the ground. Fuckers can't even count to ten so that is a pipedream.
>>769018055
A third party is more possible than ever at this point. I'm a classic liberal and voted for Obama twice, but fuck what the dems have become now and I know I'm not alone in that stance.
>>769018323
It's only possible that they get votes, but they can't actuall win because they are not even on the ballot in a lot of states. As far as the electoral college is concerned they don't even exist.
>>769018055
>Why would capitalists see this as a bad thing?
They wouldn't, but not all right wingers are capitalists. A great many of them, I'd say the majority, are just socialists who hate the word "socialism" and like to *think* they're capitalists. Of course I still strongly disagree with them on social issues, but in the bigger picture it's all the same story: they're poor, they're mad, they work hard every day, they want the damn loot for it, and the hidden 1% are convincing them it's the jews who are keeping it from them, just like they convince *everyone* it's whoever their side hates, through consumer web and media brainwashing.
>As far as I can see, the Dems seem more interested in taxing the shit out of them to punish them for being rich and bring us all closer to socialism and make everyone equally poor and dependent on the government.
Yeah probably. But the key word is "seem." And I don't mean that in a good way. The reality is even worse: they ARE the rich guys, just like the Republicans are, and they're playing us all. The taxation platform is a start, like I said, but we all know it's a lie to appeal to the masses.
>This isn't simply a left or right issue but also an issue of managing our economy properly, which neither side seems genuinely interested in or capable of.
Of course. We need to redistribute the wealth, but we need to do it fairly, not only in amount but in means of redistribution, which precludes socialism as an approach (at least as the average American understands it).
>>769018604
The jews are most of the 1% and on top of that they are firmly in control of the media. 20 years ago you could claim tinfoil hat on jews, but not today, it's patently obviously.
>>769018889
I don't agree but it doesn't matter. The important thing is the 1% are the 1% and we need them out of power *whoever* they are. Personally it seems obvious to me they're the European empire but again that's just the narrative that whoever the *real* 1% mind-controls my side of the social issues to believe, just like you with jews.
>>769018604
>they're poor, they're mad, they work hard every day, they want the damn loot for it
If they were working hard then they should get a better paying jobs. Just because you're doing the kind of job meant from r teens doesn't mean your pay should be subsidized, it just means you should learn some skills that people are willing to pay more for.
>We need to redistribute the wealth
We wouldn't need it if people were paid for their value and not paid just simply for existing to make babies with no money or income to support them. For epople who genuinely need help, there are a variety of charities and churches available. W don't need to change our economy when the private sector already has solutions to a lot of these issues.
sugar and alcohol kill more people a week than guns do in a year. seat belts save more lives than gun control would. this is just fear mongering.
>>769019078
Okay, so we have mountains of evidence that jews are the ones fucking with shit behind the scenes forever and almost no evidence that it's anyone else. We can at least agree that they need to be taken down. I think megalomania needs to be taken more seriously as a social issue. That can help root out the problem.
banning guns would only be possible if we could also ban crime. To keep it balanced, we should legalize weed and hookers.
>>769019469
Drugs are bad. Ban meat.
>>769019350
>If they were working hard then they should get a better paying jobs. Just because you're doing the kind of job meant from r teens doesn't mean your pay should be subsidized, it just means you should learn some skills that people are willing to pay more for.
Fair enough but consider this: what those skills are is controlled by the 1% to promote specific industries above all others and keep the 99% dependent on them. In a better world, a free world, what people are willing to pay for should depend on what they need, not what they're conditioned to want.
>>We need to redistribute the wealth
>We wouldn't need it if people were paid for their value and not paid just simply for existing to make babies with no money or income to support them. For epople who genuinely need help, there are a variety of charities and churches available. W don't need to change our economy when the private sector already has solutions to a lot of these issues.
Why are you conflating the economic gap between the haves and the have-nots with welfare? I agree the welfare system is suboptimal. However, I actually think delegating the care of those truly in need to churches and charities is even worse, albeit in the opposite way. Regardless, we're talking about taking down the big guys here, not Linda Taylor.
>>769019606
Not him, but weed isn't 'drugs'. It's far lower tier than alcohol and that's legal. It's free money that can be made legally and taxed for state benefits instead of the underworld. It's also an amazing biofuel, look up the NASA guy that tested it for fuel. The yield is outstanding.
>>769019458
>megalomania
Whose? There's a lot of it going around. Mostly on the consumer side, actually, so it might not be the best place to start, since we're trying to get at the people behind the *producer* class. Unless I'm misunderstanding.
>>769019769
>what those skills are is controlled by the 1% to promote specific industries above all others
Not really. The pay for those skills depends solely on market demand. Just because you have a PhD in African American gender studies doesn't mean you would be a any better at running a business as well as someone who is a would be competitor that has been running successful business for 30 years creating jobs in the process and stimulating the economy instead of leeching off of it.
>Why are you conflating the economic gap between the haves and the have-nots with welfare?
Because a lot of people with low paying jobs are also on welfare. In fact, women are financially rewarded by making fatherless babies and can make more money than they could by working full time with no children for the same job.
>>769019871
More people die everyday from overdosing on marijuana injections than people that die from guns, tobacco, and heart diseases combined.
>>769020313
>Not really. The pay for those skills depends solely on market demand.
And market demand depends on media brainwashing by the 1%, my point exactly.
>>769006077
I love here and haven’t seen a one.
>>769005298
That's completely untrue. One assault rifle is often worth over $400, usually $750 or more, and you want people to just hand them over as some sort of good citizen? That's never going to happen. If the US government actually had to pay half the value of the weapons private citizens had in their own possession, it would be over twice the entire GDP of Europe. You are never getting rid of them, just get over that.
When I purchased my shotgun, it took my five days to clear my name through a background check. Granted, it was the first time. I eventually got it and well, that was nice.
>>769003869
>uneducated
You should fix some errors in your b8.
>>769019923
>Whose?
The root of 1%er culture is dick measuring with wallet size. It's a sickness people get once they have 'made it' they go from being happy to be rich, to being unhappy they are not as rich as that guy over there. That's megalomania defined. At the tippy top of that retarded food chain lies the real problem. Those guys fund all politicians and can corrupt anyone they please.
>>769020429
I don't buy into this theory. I spent years learning how to do what I do without any outside influence and get paid well for it. I'm one of the lucky few that enjoys what I do and I earned my spot. How do you think there is even such a thing as the 1% in the first place?
>>769014814
the enemy of my enemy is my friend unless my original enemy is a mincing soy-sucking nancyboy liberal leftist faggot
dude i wouldn't side with them if we were taking on satan himself. Fuck those tranny loving retards
>>769012324
As high as we live on the hog, our very existence is a laugh in your face, without effort. As we're told $1 US/day, and even lower is the poverty line in your country. Our shittiest US citizen earns $7.25 PER HOUR to stand around and complain about being paid $7.25/Hour. Who's truly laughing at whom?
>>769020725
>the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Said by a Muslim who was eventually beheaded by his best friend. The enemy of your enemy, is still your enemy.
>>769020725
>dude i wouldn't side with them if we were taking on satan himself.
Then we'll do it without you. Not the left without the right. Rather, the reasonable people of both sides will do it without you extremists.
>>769020694
>I spent years learning how to do what I do without any outside influence and get paid well for it. I'm one of the lucky few that enjoys what I do and I earned my spot.
Good for you. That's how any honest fortune should be made.
>How do you think there is even such a thing as the 1% in the first place?
By comparatively dishonest means.
Capitalism wasn't always perfect in America, you know, and still isn't. People found ways to game it, and they couldn't legally be penalized post facto. Ever heard of a "robber baron"?
>>769020655
Oh, I understand what you're saying. Yeah, that's a problem. I'd be inclined to say it's a byproduct of a materialistic culture, but really I think the materialistic culture is something the 1% deliberately sustain among the consumer class, so... maybe up at that level the real problem is that they're huffing their own farts too hard, so to speak?
ban the niggers and sjws that keep tryin to rile up the white peope
>>769003869
>>769021289
lost
>>769021289
lost as well
>>769005873
Maybe if they actually fixed those fucking roads, then they'd have a reason to give a shit.
>>769020975
The situation is different here because our mutual enemy is the reason we're enemies, and if we can get rid of it, we, or at least our descendants, will no longer have any such reason.
>>769021225
>By comparatively dishonest means
Sure, but this is human nature and will plague any economic system, not just capitalism. Socialism is capable of this as well if it was infested by capitalist opportunists manipulating the government in the same way they do now.
>>769021496
Yeah but under our system in particular, it was allowed to take root and transform into a huge problem. That's because the Constitution provides against punishing people for breaking laws that weren't laws at the time. This is a reasonable provision, but the economic inequality to which it's given rise is anything but.
Anti-1% liberalfag longposter here. Going to bed. Goodnight, friendly/unfriendly enemy-allies. Good talk.
>>769021839
Night anon.
>>769021839
Good talking with you too. Nice actually be able to speak logically with a liberal for once. Good night anon.
>>769021682
Being that the 1% probably has more money than most governments, socialism Aline won't fix this unless it was somehow addressed at an international level. The only way to shut them down is to undermine the means by which they obtain fruadulent wealth. Asumming this 1% theory is real, no single government alone could do this.
