The NRA doesnt care about you
Yes they do. I'm a member and just attended their annual meeting in Dallas. Shit was so cash.
>22nd school shooting
>almost all of those 22 are "going off near a school" reports and not actual in-school shootings
>>768994485
Must have been great to turn in your gun at the door. Because, you know, safety.
>>768993863
>>768994485
but firearms are their TOP priority and selling them. you are secondary at best.
>>768993863
>22nd school shooting
>school shooting #16 was a student hearing a gunshot from across a city street at a nearby gas station and reporting it to campus police
Nice try.
>>768994550
Wrongo, fucknut. That was the first night, and was a requirement from the Secret Service because Trump and Pence were there. Saturday and Sunday I had my M&P .45 on me all day.
>>768994621
what about the other 20?
how many school shootings has canada had? england? france, germany? japan? need I go on?
>>768994645
It's almost like an armed person can be considered dangerous when there are important enough people in the area.
Almost like the idea of a private armed citizen is dangerous
>>768993863
Vote Republican.
>>768993863
>>768993863
how many kids have been raped by your "new voters"
let us know when you start giving a damn about them
>>768994794
>>768994792
kek. reps and the nra are fuck buddies
>>768993863
Logfag. You really shouldn't be posting numbers you can't back up. This number is inflated. They count suicides in this statistic, those where the only victim is the shooter.
>>768994645
Wonder why the Secret Service didn't want you having guns? Thought that was supposed to be safer for everyone.
>>768993863
>be 17
>big moment
>shoot up school
>more new coverage of a fucking bus crash
>>768994753
I looked at a few of them
>student shot with a bb gun
>student grazed by bullet when a gun went off during a safety demo
>2 people got into a fight and one got shot in a parking lot
>an attempted mass shooter tried but only grazed one person
>one student wounded
>domestic situation in a dorm got someone shot
>student injured in a different parking lot
>person was shot at a party outside the school
>person was shot, neither shooter or person were students there, outside school
and thats just a few
>>768993863
I like this theory that the NRA has control over every gun. Apparently the NAACP should be held accountable for every black crime, and the cast of The View should be blamed every time a woman lies about a rape.
All these kids have no purpose..... why is this generation so obsessed with attention?
>>768994955
>student grazed by bullet when a gun went off during a safety demo
WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK
>>768994997
silly anon, women never lie about rape
>>768994997
I just wanted to let you know, that i am screencapping your post and im going to repost it where nessecary for as long as i live, you will live on even after you are dead.
>>768994955
Shut your dirty Goy mouth!
>>768994485
sheep
>>768995004
They don't have enough followers on Instagram and Snapchat so they snap.
>>768995004
because their lives suck. many don't have a bright future ahead. man I would hate to be a kid in this negative soul raping world.
>>768994802
Wtf does this post even mean? I am trying to decipher it, but it doesn't make any sense?
>>768995144
fag
>>768993863
cool fact you got there
>>768995144
Don't be too hard on them, we were all sheep once.
>>768993863
>implying anyone cares about you
>>768995131
>goy
>>768994813
What does this prove? All this diagram is going to do is get idiots riled up with conjecture. Interpretation. Opinion. Nothing that can be proved.
Who cares?
>>768995338
we care about you
t. fbi
>>768995352
lolno
>>768993863
they care more about my rights then you do cunt
>>768995359
It is showing that while people dying is a bad thing, in the scope of the world, 27 people in the USA and 28 in the rest of the world,from school shootings, isnt as big of a deal as it is made out to be in American Media
>>768995232
They all want to be an attention whore like this fuck stick
>>768994753
70,000,000 children (up to age 21) attended elementary school, middle school, or college in 2017
Less than 200 children were shot in any kind of school-classified shooting, which included shootings in close proximity to schools (but not necessarily on campus)
Therefore, the average chance for any given child to be shot while attending school in 2017 was 1 in 350,000, or 0.0002%.
Children are more likely to die of playing sports at school than getting shot at school.
22 school shootings sounds like a lot until you realize there are 100,000 public schools, 35,000 private schools, and 5,000 colleges. This means only 0.01% of all educational institutions experienced any kind of "school shooting" last year, most of which included incidental, off-campus events, non-lethal events, and police-firing scenarios.
Please use your brain before posting next time.
>>768995472
the NRA doesn't actually care about your rights. they will trade away your rights faster than butter melts in a hot pan if in trade they get more PR and thus more money. if you actually cared about your rights you wouldn't support the NRA.
>>768995548
>be me
>try 69
>not even that great
>>768995604
>Children are more likely to die of playing sports at school than getting shot at school.
BAN ASSULT SPORTS
>>768994813
The USA has more guns than the rest of the world combined, so I guess we came out on top as having statistically less shootings proportional to the amount of gun ownership.
Thanks for the support.
>>768994753
Australia has a mass shooting last week and guns are illegal there. The government even went door to door to pick them all up...
Lets not forget that explosives are already illegal and LE is still searching for the bombs left at the school today. If bombs are illegal in the US, how did this kid get hold of them? Making guns illegal obviously won't stop gun violence.
>T-THERES BEEN 22 SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ALREADY THIS YEAR!!!!
1. teacher accidentally grazed a student during a safety demonstration
2.kid went into a school with an ar 15, hit one person before being stopped
3.15 year old girl and boy shot, police dubbed incident "unintentional
4.man caught a single bullet to the gut during a track meet
5.15 year old shot and wounded a single other 15 year old
6.Person shot in rec center, non-life threatening, not even a student
7.student shot in dispute at dorm outside the school, non life threatening
8.one person hospitalized after a shot at an apartment outside the school
9.one student killed, one wounded after "accident" that police wont say anything else about
10.single student shot 5 times in parking lot
11.two people shot in a dormitory dispute, both weren't students
12.student shot other student with a BB GUN
13.fight in parking lot, 32 year old man shot
14.student injured in parking lot
15.student shot through a window in a dorm, non-threatening injury
16.football player killed at party
17.1 person shot, later died, not a student
18.one student shot in ankle during a walkout
ACTUAL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS-
19.Santa Fe, 10 people dead so far, SHOTGUN
20.benton kentucky, 16 people shot, 2 died
21.maryland, student shot 2 others before resource officer killed him
22.parkland florida, 17 killed at high school
>>768993863
Nobody cares about you
>>768995604
or you could just get rid of the guns and then no children would have to die in a brutal slaughter before their 18th birthday. you silly goose
the real problem are the parents, the family core if a family has a lack of comunication and even lack of control of what their kids feel, like watch, etc is easy to assume this violence cycle will continue even with Trump Prayers.
also schools need true profesionals dedicated to heal traumas or find out if kids nowdays live in dysfunctional enviroments, well it is clear that Americans need their guns, but if you have kids at least teach them that guns are not for vengence or desire to kill, damm it if you want to shoot something to release your anger, shoot bottles or maybe the laptop of your lazy daugther
>>768994550
that was only in the auditorium where they were speaking, you could carry in the exhibition hall and everywhere else
>>768996146
who gives a shit about other peoples children
>>768996146
As long as you are okay with:
1) Ban swimming pools
2) Ban recreational drug (alchohol, marijuana, etc) consumption
3) Ban cars going over 70mph and legally require engine speed limiters
4) Ban recreational sports on school grounds
we could just get rid of these things and then no children would have to die before their 18th birthday, you silly goose
>>768996146
by that logic we should ban motor vehicles and swimming pools since they kill more children
>>768993863
>most of those ((school shootings)) were typical nigger drive bys at dorms or parking lots by a schools
>next biggest group were nigger/spics being excuse for bringing a gun to school and having it go off
http://archive.is/Odg2f
>>768993863
When will dumb ass idiots like OP realize that a gun ban will jeopardize other rights on the constitution...?
If you totally abolish a right on the constitution, why not go ahead and scrap the whole thing? Why does one right trump another?
Ban guns? Might as well ban free speech.
>>768996587
all of those things have a legitimate use in society, and all of them are regulated already. Guns have 0 practical use in society,
>>768996627
Abortion is the #1 killer of children. Just think of these shootings as a 50th trimester abortion.
>wtf I love guns now
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>768993863
Targeted victims don't count.
Why haven't I seen anything on the niggers doing that mock-shooting in Bowie? At least you tell yourselves you're hip and think telling yourselves things is the same as reality, /b/.
>>768994548
Yes. That is so much better.
>>768996470
It almost sounds like carrying a firearm in the auditorium was dangerous or something.
>>768997045
>0 practical uses
unless you're old, weak, or of small stature and can't defend yourself from a simple assault, or unless you want to defend yourself from a mugging, or unless you want to not flee your home in fear during a home invasion, or unless you live far away from immediate police help, or unless you own a farm and want to protect your livestock from varmint or your crops from hogs, or unless you participate in sports that require a gun like trap, skeet, or biathlons, or unless you you own your own business and handle large amounts of cash or valuables, or unless you have a stalker or threats against your life or restraining orders
>>768997045
>Guns have 0 practical use in society,
Law enforcement, self defense, hunting, sport shooting, just to name the first 4 things that come to mind.
>>768993863
It is not their responsibility to do so.
>>768997045
Then I'm sure you'll have no issue with requiring all law enforcement to give up their guns as the first step towards a national gun confiscation.
Moron.
P.S. There are over 22,000 laws regulating private gun ownership. They are more regulated than everything else I mentioned, combined.
>>768997045
>legitimate use in society,
No they dont
>swimming pools
Drown people and waste precious water. Get your exercise in a more environmentally friendly way, like picking up trash in your neighborhood.
>recreational drug (alchohol, marijuana, etc) consumption
No productive use whatsoever. Get your amusement some other way, like helping educate your inbred coworkers about Trumps criminality and stupidity, or the importance of pronouns
>cars going over 70mph
Wastes fuel. Take the bus.
>recreational sports on school grounds
Tool of the patriarchy. The kids should be at home reading their critical race theory and marx.
>>768993863
This is the brice of freedom
>>768994753
>shootings has canada
Like 2 in the past 10 years with 3 or 4 dead
>>768997806
I don't know you, but I fucking hate you.
I hope you die of cancer.
>>768994851
Why do they have guns?
>>768994813
>>768995960
Also, let us remember later on that this is valid logic as an argument since it is also the exact same logic being applied to the crime rates of nigs in the US relative to their population percentage.
ITT just a bunch of faggot soyboys crying about guns. Fuck you, don't like it leave.
Pic related, come and take it motherfucker!
>>768998068
You're not counting them right. A mass shooting is one in which 2 or more people are shot.
Murder suicide? Mass shooting.
Cop and burgler shoot each other? Mass shooting.
Drug deal gone bad? Mass shooting.
Newfag here, I had no idea /b/ was so fucking left leaning, this is like the 5th gun control thread I've seen....
I mean I knew you guys are sexual deviants so I guess it makes sense your liberal, but I thought yal were alt-right or sum shit.
Anyway, you can't take my guns, nice try tho
>Teen has commie pin on his shirt
> You master TV says blame nazie
>you blame nra
SpecialKindOfStupid.jpg
With the Georgia one, it’s 23 now
>>768998171
>seething
>>768997631
Good to know you'd rather kids actually die
>>768993863
>>768998438
Dont worry about it man.
Half these lafttards are literally paid to be here.
>>768993863
What makes you think we care about kids getting shot? Fuck'em the world is over populated and survival of the fittest still applies.
>>768998438
This! Exactly it's the same faggots making trap threads. Notice the lack of traps right now.... Dick sucking faggot are faggots
Can I join the three vampires or did they already kill me into a dildo?
>>768996146
This is the same logic as "ban muslims so they don't hurt our white children from their terrorist attacks" this fear mongering
>>768996031
Careful, anon. You’re gonna push OP into shooting up his school.
>>768993863
how many were there last year?
>>768998438
Its just ShareBlue's rodents earning their hourly stipend. You notice its all copypasta.
>>768997645
they're worried that some anti trump liberal was going to try to shot he president, miss because they haven't ever practiced, and hit an innocent bystander instead
Liberals are powerless and cant do a fucking thing
just laugh at them for the next week
soon enough a new social media issue will come along for liberals to pretend to care about.
>>768998438
Bots anon
Bots
>>768998438
It isn't. /b/ gets raided periodically by paid shills since the last US election. Some of their posts and responses have been cut and pasted for well over a year now.
>>768995962
I like how I post an actual fact and liberals have no response. Shows that they don't even believe their own bullshit.
You're too late you damn gun grabbers! I'm getting an AR-15 in early June. For the most part I am a Democrat by the way, but I completely oppose gun control.
I have lost faith in humanity, especially in my own fellow Democrats. I agree with all of you when you tell me that Donald Trump is a threat to America and that he might potentially start WW3, but at the same time you want to surrender your guns to this lunatic! I give up, there's seriously is no hope left for humanity.
We need the 2nd Amendment so we can protect ourselves from a tyrannical government. Sadly most Democrats believe that the government will always look out for us and never betray us, dream on! Once Trump starts sending people to concentration camps and robbing us of all of our rights you are going to want all of the fire power you can get your hands on.
>>768997806
Kek you made yourself obvious with marxism
>>768997806
Or just eat my ass. Greatest thing about this country is that I can do and have all this shit and I can giggle my ass off about it the whole time and there aint a fuckin thing you can do about it and I dont have to justify any of it to you. Please continue to hate the fact that I own my own pool and several firearms and a sports car. Indeed, I want you to be very vocal and loud about how much you think I shouldnt or how much you think I should be doing other things. The more you hate it, the more I enjoy doing it.
>>768998865
Theyre bots anon, and not good ones like Tay. They don't think, they just post the same pasta over and over.
>>768997045
>Guns have 0 practical use in society.
Corpse cop disagrees with you.
libfags think they can do anything
hahahahahahahahaha
>>768993863
The NRA is a completely volunteer group made up by and supported by citizens to protect our gun rights. So fuck off.
>>768997659
here in Australia we do fine with all of those things without the use of guns???????
(except for farming where people with gun licences can have rifles)
>>768993863
30 to 40 thousand killed by cars
less than that killed by guns, most being suicides
250 thousand killed by assault doctors
600 thousand heart attacks
500 thousand cancer deaths
15000 killed by guns in 2017
about 5000 killed by guns so far this year
about 100 killed in mass shootings so far this year
about 20000 killed by heart disease this year so far
cheeseburgers are bigger killers than guns even through there are an estimated 300 to 400 million guns
hows that agenda of yours going?
>>768993863
Unless you're a wealthy Russian "donor".
>>768998928
Not for long you inbred mongoloid.
>>768998993
this
liberals are the 25% using social media to try and convince everyone they are the majority
thats why they need to import voters.
Nicolas Cage dies of a heart attack october 15
>>768993863
if the left would stop shorting shit up
if the FBI WOULD STOP BEING AWARE
BEFORE EVERY FUCKING SCHOOL SHOOTING and doing nothing just LETTING IT HAPPEN TO PUSH GUN CONTROL
This sums everything up
https://youtu.be/6m8vMEGYOVM
>>768999040
Look how progressive that French cop is by not packing a firearm!
>>768993863
>The NRA has nothing to do with anything regarding school shootings
>>768993863
A bb gun hitting a school window after school hours is not a school shooting as you define it, fuckwad.
Too bad there wasn't an armed resource officer doing his job like in Illinois.
It's not even a surprise anymore. These edgelords need to do something truly shocking now to even get noticed. Try napalm, or Agent Orange. Or Sarin gas. Guns just aren't exciting anymore.
>>768994590
They don't sell firearms retard.
>>768994548
>people shooting firearms near a school is a normal thing in burgertown
Nothing to worry about folks
>>768999201
This. Please name one mass shooter - you know what, forget about that. Please name one person who committed gun violence in the last 20 years who was an NRA member.
>>768993863
They care about me, they don't care about these jank ass public schools where students are taught to hate guns
>>768993863
FBI WAS AT THE KIDS HOUSE PREVIOUSLY
ACCORDING TO A NEIGHBOR
fbi was warned 2 time and the police like 52 time in the Florida shooting
WE HAVE NO GUN PROBLEM
WE HAVE A FBI / POLICE NOT DOING THEIR JOB PROBLEM
>>768993863
>The Democratic PARTY doesn't care about you
FIXED
>>768996146
What about abortion then I mean those are the youngest children killed right and that is completely legal. Oh but that's not brutal or anything. pic related
>>768999069
Good on you guys. This is America where we fought and won a war so we don't have to do what we're told or have the Queen on our money.
>>768999128
Not for long what? What do you think is going to be taken away from me? Keep hatin kid. Im takin my kid out to learn to shoot next month for his 10th birthday. I would have done it sooner but his mother said she wouldnt blow me for a year if I took him out before he turned 10.
>>768995935
finally, someone who gets it
>>768999478
>we don't have to do what we're told
What year do you think this is?
>>768993863
No. It cares about itself. So I can trust it.
>>768996249
The problem is liberal mind. I'm not even allowed to punish my child for acting out anymore. In literally any way or the liberal mind of social services will come and take him away. My parents basically beat me and I turned out great. I don't shoot up schools or anything.
>>768999353
Although it was not gun violence, Timothy McVeigh was apart of the nra
>>768993863
they should make it so kids can't get guns
>>768999665
Yes, the John Oliver "it's the current year" argument, nice. Did Australia just have an entire family get shot to death? Sounds like you guys got it all figured out for sure.
>>768994753
Africa arms children with assault rifles
>>768999606
You should have taken him out there at 8 and paid someone else to suck your dick for a year. everyone likes a little strange from time to time.
the problem is clearly lack of guns. if evey teacher and student in school had a gun no one would dare to shoot up the school. same goes for supermarkets, hospitals, well basicly everywhere. the US needs more guns lots more to fix this problem!
>>768993863
duh
>>768993863
Democrats are cancerous. They don't care about you.
>>768999703
On top of that not being an act of gun violence, that was also well over 20 years ago.
>>768993863
I really hope whoever funds this psyop soon realizes that this shit show on 4chan doesn't actually work.
>>768994548
spoken like a true inbred murkan cuck
>>769000039
23years ago, mass murder by a person who was at one time apart of the nra
>>768999703
and he was a responsible gun owner didn't shoot up any schools just blew up one building with a bomb in a u-haul truck.
Clinton lost because everyone who wasn't a faggot or a Jew hated her.
>>768999966
Hot damn that get tho...
Maybe you're right, but his mother is a damn skippy bitch and I'm kind of partial to her. Something something golf balls and garden hoses. So this was our compromise.
>>768996029
God ! I hope there's a hundred before the year ends.
>>768995260
Try being an adult who grew up watching it go to shit and never had children because of it, but watch others bring new children into the world to be slaughtered and fucked by it. Dreams and souls crushed once they discover the truth. One of the most cruel questions we ask children today is "What do you want to be when you grow up?"
>>769000018
not all. just the super established rich ones.
bernie cares
but you dont like taxes so i guess hes not your guy.
lets just privatize everything.
Too poor to pay the fireman? guess your house burns down
too poor to buy food? guess your starving to death
oops, cant afford to send your kids to school? guess their doomed to a life of poverty and the amreican dream is dead for them.
>>768996146
You claim to care about children but I don't think you really care. you just like to spout off at the mouth with "facts" that are bourn by liberal lies
>>768993863
>>769000217
Buuuuut no guns involved. Shit example is shit.
>>768999463
shut the fuck up you retarted faggit bitch. . at least you dont have to worryabout abortion for you cause youll never have sex
I live in a city controlled by far left loonies - Seattle, WA. (I won't call them Democrats because that would be an insult to Democrats.) It is on the verge of civil unrest all the time and prone to sudden, violent protests. Cops do NOTHING here anymore. These same left wing loonies also want to overthrow a duly elected president. These are the people who don't want me to have a gun.
>>768999703
>Timothy McVeigh
>McVeigh became intensely interested in gun rights, as well as the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution
This is an obvious plant on the wikipedia page for him. The citations for these claims and a single mention of the NRA are a joke.
>>769000223
>didn't shoot up any schools
nah he just blew up a building with a day care in it
>>768995043
anyone using a loaded gun for a gun safety demonstration at a school SHOULDN'T BE TEACHING GUN SAFETY
>>768999792
What I am saying is, the Redcoats aren't going to be coming any longer.
>>768995144
Highly ironic of you to say that
>>768995604
>Therefore, the average chance for any given child to be shot while attending school in 2017 was 1 in 350,000
233 kids getting killed at school is acceptable
>>769000721
No, they're just going to sit across the ocean and try to tell us how to run our own country. All while London is more dangerous than New York and acid attacks have become common place over there. What a utopia.
>>769000217
This doesn't look like very firm information. Doubtful it's true. You can't prove it's true either, yet you wander around stating it's truth.
>>768997045
>all of those things have a legitimate use in society, and all of them are regulated already. Guns have 0 practical use in society,
>>768996029
and there are 300 million more morons to replace them, whoopdeefuckindoo
license to breed, NOW
>>768993863
ITS EASIER TO GET A GUN THAN IT IS TO GET A DRIVERS LICENSE
people should be allowed to own guns, but they need to prove they are capable of safely owning a gun.
issues in the inner city can be solved with some major socioeconomic reform.
>>768998438
It's just spam. These people actually get paid to do this, it's pathetic.
>>768996146
We could also just ban muslims to get rid of terrorism.
>>769000856
You can't disprove it either, so who's right? Can it be true some one in the nra is a bad egg? Is it really that hard to believe?
>>768995960
>The USA has more guns than the rest of the world
That is not true at all you fucking retard
>>768996029
4 is still an unacceptable number.
the other 18 are an issue too, but they arent "school shootings"
>>768997095
Abortion is the #1 promoter of people we care about, even AFTER their 18th birthday.
>>768993863
Your argument is trash. Not surprising seeing how this is the best your people can come up with.
>>769000591
Move then
>>768996793
amendments exist.
>>769001077
The burden of proof is on the person presenting the story as fact. You can't prove it? STFU.
>>768999898
yes and look at how good africa is doing lmao
>>769000976
You don't need a license to buy or own a car, just to drive it on a public street. The same is true of guns, you don't need anything special to buy or own one (asside from a background check), but if you want to carry it concealed in public then you must a have a concealed weapons license, which is more strict than a driver's license.
>>768997645
Nah, since that where liberals and future-liberals congregate. We actually came out net-positive.
>>769000018
noone cares about anyone. republicans dont care about you and democrats dont care about you.
>>769001273
>guise it doesn't fit my narrative, it must be lies
Kek
>>769000624
The whole argument is an irrelevant moral purity test debate anyway. Every fuckin group, organization, faction, or collection has or has had a member or twenty that engaged in some illicit criminal activity or otherwised behaved in a manner than would not be condoned. This does nothing to invalidate the rest of the group. Their affiliation does not inherently alter or repurpose the organization they associated with, particularly where they do not lead the group.
Dont pander to dumbfucks trying to make this argument. Call em on their dumbfuckery.
>>768996249
>schools need true profesionals dedicated to heal traumas
This is muhrica... that'll cost $720,000 for a fake doctor to look at you
>>769001176
I have a home in another part of Washington and my property in King County is currently for sale. I'll be done walking around on shit, piss, and heroin needles soon enough.
>>769001394
I know you're just trolling.
>>768997806
>like picking up trash in your neighborhood.
Why not just ban trash, anon?
>>769001457
>guise it doesn't fit my narrative, he troll
>>768996793
>he believes the tyrannical government protection meme
>>768998438
It's not left-leaning. Mainstream media that shows news of 4chans shit brought these morons here.
>>768999105
even a single gun death is too many? right?
i mean in a perfect world....
im all for gun ownership, we just need to crack down on illegal gun sales and maybe fix our financial system so extreme poverty and a lack of entry level jobs doesnt force people into a life of crime. (the american dream doesnt really exist for some people)
>>768999069
Stop pretending to he Australian you retard. Any non criminal can easily get firearms here.
>>769001394
Come up with some proof for all of these stories we are hearing all the time. NEVER is there any proof.
All speculation, fear mongering, misinforming. Got nothing to do with a narrative, it's the difference between a liar and someone who can prove they are telling the truth. Why should I care what you think politically if you cannot get along without falling for manipulated headlines and stories?
>>768999353
Steve
>>768993863
The only time the NRA or Conservative lobbied politicians will care is when they are shot at. Why hasn't anyone done it........ It's not that fucking hard people...
>>768999478
You have god on your money
>>769001329
maybe a single background check isnt enough... its tough to figure out the right solution, but there is a real problem of mentally unstable people owning firearms.
>>769001569
communist detected
>>769001627
>the american dream doesnt really exist for some people
Yeah because they would rather LARP as thugs or gangsters.
>>768993863
can"t wait for the 23rd
>>769001839
No, we have "In God we trust" on our money. Although I would support putting the classical depiction of God as an old white man with a beard on our money too.
>>769001852
The problem isn't with gun or access to them. You don't fix alcoholism by making alcohol difficult to acquire for everyone.
>>769001769
Wow that was easy
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/documents/mcveigh/
>>769001852
No, the real problem is the media blowing them out of proportion and making the shooters into anti-celebrities, and causing more copycats. If you want to fix the problem, start executing reporters.
>>769001627
Criminal behavior is a choice. Poverty does not force anyone into crime, laziness is the true culprit along with willful ignorance.
>>769001329
maybe you should need a license to OWN a firearm, and a separate license for conceal and carry.
maybe we shouldnt allow for private gun sales in public (maybe they should go to a gun store that has the capabilities to perform a thourough bg check)
yet again, i dont know if these are the right solutions, but we have a problems, and something needs to be changed.
>>768993863
The NRA cares about us a whole lot fucking more than you mongrels that want us all disarmed so the certain 13% of the population responsible for over 50% of violent crime can run rampant on us
fucking kill yourselves
>>768993863
and no one cares about you.
>>769002169
Maybe you should need a license to NOT own a firearm. Making carrying mandatory, unless you can prove you're mentally ill or otherwise unfit.
>>769001302
their problems aren't due solely to the weapons though, you missed my point, and the fact that they arm children and can trust their children to do what they need to do with the weapons shows discipline and understanding that we obviously don't trust our own children with, which is a cultural problem. After all, THEIR children can conduct themselves with such responsibilities under the influence of drugs and snorting GUNPOWDER. Our children can't even be responsible while sober.
>>769002309
>guise moar gunz hur dur
>>769002169
>something needs to be changed
That something has nothing to do with guns or access to them. Why would you demand a change in one sentence and in the next say you have no idea if changes would even be a solution? Would you support a license to be able to speak freely or to practice the religion of your choice?
>>769001399
>look at you
and that's all he'll do, because that's all they do now anyways
>>769002392
You know what the most common factor in STOPPING school shootings is?
When the shooter is confronted by people with guns and they either blow their own fucking brains out or get outgunned and captured/die
Turns out good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns, who would have thought????
>>769001931
Muh commernism
>>769002053
So you have god on your money?
>>769002169
Maybe the guns arent the problem though. What if its the weird ass liberal bullshit the teachers cram down these kids throats that is fucking them up. What if fhe guns are just answer to the real problem, kind of like a social immune response trying to remove a cancer.
>>768993863
you can take my guns out of my cold dead hands op
>>769001569
When has government ever ceded power BACK to the people of it's own volition?
>>769002635
I trust God more than I trust the Queen.
from my cold dead hands!
>>769002534
You saw my medical advice.
You owe me $5400
>>769002117
i think there are some bigger issues besides laziness. I think theres a lack of good paying blue collar/factory jobs in areas like compton or chicago.
And i think some kids grow up looking around them and see that upwards social mobility is next to impossible for them.
maybe schools arent engagins students enough at a young age
maybe the path to higher education is harder if you dont have money. (african american students get denied student loans all the time)
(also, if you were the descendant of someone forced to come here. You lost your culture, you lost your family tree. Then you see your people treated like second class citizens for the next 150 years, you might kinda hate the country that did that to you)
there are some big issues that need to be solved before the gun debate even takes place.
>>769002669
Muh tyrannical gubbermint
>>769002680
>he trusts money god
>>769001852
That's just an appeal to establish an authority to determine who is "mentally unstable". The definition will rapidly expand into "anyone I don't like", and we slippery slope into no 2nd amendment.
>>769002638
so killing people is fine?
maybe your backwards ass hick genes need to be culled from the population. maybe you need to be killed.
>>769002545
Then why weren't people allowed to carry their guns at the NRA convention when Trump spoke? Hypocrisy much?
>>769003028
you would probably need guns to do it
>>769003020
fair, but still. how do you stop the next las vegas shooter?
>>769002883
The factory jobs aren't coming back, but there are other jobs. The biggest problem is culture and parenting. If you live in a subculture that despises education as selling out, and picks on anyone who tries to learn, you don't have a chance.
And the lack of engagement is a parental problem, not a teaching problem. Education only really works when the parents are involved, ideally two of them. Parents who don't care and single parents are the problem.
>>769002796
I'm Australian and even I recognize an air rifle from its shitty plastic molding
>>769002888
Muh cowardice
>>769003122
You don't. He was an old, rich, white guy with no criminal or psychological history and enough money that he could have bought a legal machine gun had he wanted to.
>>769003062
Yes, it's hypocrisy. But that's politics.
>>769003028
This is an excellent example of the left wing in 2018. Anyone to the right of Marx should be killed. But you don't need your guns so give them up.
>>769003087
nope, just some drone strikes targeting certain households (we'll use tiny accurate missle that wont level a whole city block). lets see billy-bob's ar-15 protect him now.
>>769002169
>something needs to be changed
Yes, attitude and mentality towards guns and authority.
>>769003235
seems like defeatism to just let people like that roam free, doesnt it?
>>769003062
That has nothing to do with my post. Stay on topic turd.
But if you really need an answer because you can't let it go, do you really think an organization would pass up the opportunity to have the POTUS speak at their event? Not allowing guns to be carried there was a small price for such publicity. a modest trade. And I 110% guarantee you there were dozens of armed men inside that room. it was not a "no gun zone" where most slaughters tend to take place.
>>769002392
How many wars would we win if we showed up to the battlefield with less guns?
>>769002545
Maybe children or people under 25 should be allowed to own guns
>>769001796
A Bernie bro shot at a shit-ton of Republicans playing softball. It didn’t make them run from their principles.
Speaking of principles, are you publicly calling for the shooting of congressmen?
>>769002809
yes, but are you licensed?
>>769003336
No it doesn't, someone with no criminal history or history of serious mental illness should be free to own whatever guns they can afford. We should not take rights away from people without a really good reason and due process.
fuck the 2nd amendment, it's fucking retarded
>>769003260
the guy said school shootings are fine. Sociopaths arent needed in a perfect society.
>>769003388
You're apparently too dense to recognize when you've been played.
>>769003402
*shouldnt
>>769003155
You won't do shit because you're the coward. A large number of your hippos believe the government did 9/11, yet none of them used their shooty sticks to overthrow that tyranny.
Get real faggot, you like playing with guns. Dont pretend you'll ever use them for anything that matters
>>769003267
Okay, let's say that happens. The ATF starts to use drone strikes to kill law abiding citizens who happens to own AR-15s. What do you think happens next?
Life isn't a first person shooter, retard. If the government starts using the military to attack their own citizens, there will be massive outrage, rebellion, and much of the military will turn on their masters.
>>769003336
Rights are rights whether they're dangerous or not. Luckily the right to bear arms isn't actually as dangerous as some people would have you believe.
>>769003592
International pressure would be huge too
>>769003570
I've never owned a gun in my life. And you're an absolute, shivering little coward.
>>769002888
Muh repeating the same non-argument over and over cuz that's all I can come up with
>>769003549
Then explain it to me so I can trash more of your retarded arguments
>>769003474
there should be semi-anual psychological testing? one day your fine, the next day your perscriptions start acting up and you want to shoot up an old-folks home. There should be more than one test.
>>769003398
The same number you've won so far...
Zero
>>769002948
Christian God isn't Money God
>>769003449
Yes.
That'll be another $1200
>>769001166
Did this start as a troll like the cut 4 bieber thing? Or did this movement really come up with an argument that actually is in favor of gun ownership when you think about it?
>>769003122
by arming everyone in his vicinity
Why do democrats instigate school shootings? Are you that desperate to win an election?
>>769003812
Don't forget the annual anal probe and microchip implant.
>>769003644
agreed, thats why im in favor of people owning guns. i just think you should take a psychological test every year to prove you still have the mental capacity to own a gun. Maybe if you want a gun, you have to give up some of your privacy.
>>769003689
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>769003663
No u
>>769003770
>he has god on his money
>>769003937
I claim such a test would be undue burden on a civil right. If you instituted some sort of "political awareness" evaluation on the right to vote to ensure voters could make sound decisions, the country would shit itself in rage.
>>768995826
>this guy supports me
>throw this guy out
Simple economics
>>769003922
Of course.
I'll do that right after I charge him money to chop part of his dick off
>>769003937
i just think you should take a psychological test every year to prove you still have the mental capacity for free speech. Maybe if you want to speak your mind, you have to give up some of your privacy.
i just think you should take a psychological test every year to prove you still have the mental capacity for have the right for protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Maybe if don't want police to break in any time they feel like and bug your home, you have to give up some of your privacy.
>>769003336
>people like that
Who? Rich, old, white people? Did this just get racial?
>>769003719
No, there should be no psychological tests. Rights can be removed by due process of law only, which means that a judge reviews evidence that you have a psychological disorder that makes you a danger with guns, and then strips you of your right to own them. The right to keep and bare arms is treated the same as every other right recognized by the Constitution. The same process should be applied to other rights like voting, and they are.
>>769003892
that still doesnt stop his initial act of shooting up the place. sure you can shoot back, but he was deranged enough to shoot first. Crazy people shouldnt be allowed to own guns. Some people "Snap" maybe a bi-anual psychological test couldve stopped him before he killed everyone. Or would you rather we have the FBI and ATF spy on every gun owner?
>>768993863
Gov't takes away guns.
>>The people revolt with more guns, some even professionally manufactured.
More and More control laws pass.
>>Tyrone buying a street sweeper out of a GMC panel van could give a fuck.
Removing "Military Style Assault Rifles" is the would-all, be-all, means to an end.
>>meanwhile, this same mentality is breeding little asshole social basket cases like in Texas today.
lets face it, without guns we would go back to blades, clubs, spears and axes... this is fucking the most tiring mobius strip of an unsolvable conflict.
>>Wolves & Sheep
>>769004058
maybe some people dont have the right to own guns. if you crazy you getty no gunny.
"muh burden i have to take a test once a year to prove im not crazy"
>>769004168
The DSM has historically classified things like homosexuality as mental illnesses. Are you really going to trust them to take away a fundamental right?
>>769004114
What a dum dum
>>769004338
If a burden can be put on one right, it can be put on the rest. How would you like go before a board of people who judge you religion and if you can legally worship your God of choice?
>>769003445
>Flags are symbols.
>Flags aren't governments.
>Governments can be corrupted.
>Flags cannot be corrupted, because they are just symbols.
It is a profound sadness that I have to sort this out for you.
>>769004338
Rights are not something applied after you've proven you deserve them. They are granted to every citizen and cannot be infringed upon or removed without due process of law.
Every single citizen of the united states has the right to own a gun until that right is removed with the proper due process. There is not and will never be some pre-requisite qualification to own a gun for as long as the second amendment exists as written.
if the country successfully ratifies an amendment repealing the 2nd, then that can change. I don't personally support such an endeavor, but I suppose it's possible.
>>769004473
>>769004449
>has historically classified things like homosexuality as mental illnesses
They seem to know what they're talking about. I'd trust them
>>769004473
That's a colloquial name for a type of bullet, yes. Way to go, you've learned one minor thing about guns! Learn two more, and you'll be qualified to be an expert on CNN!
>>769004591
Meme bullets
>>769004114
straw-man's argument. guns have the capacity to kill. you cant kill someone with speech (guttural noises from your body dont kill people)
people have used speech to cause violence, but thats already illegal (there are limits to "free speech")
>>769003730
And yet we are still here
>>769004591
>Let 'Er RIP!
God I remember when these meme machines first hit the marketing and /k/ was raped with viral marketing for like a fucking month
>>769001941
also all the high paying factory jobs were sent over to china (because you can pay them shit and most CEOs are sociopaths)
>>769004103
WITHOUT painkillers and return to work the same day
>>768993863
The Democrats sure as fuck don't care about us. So fuck them libtards and fuck you.
>>769004627
Retard can talking
>>769004648
it's the application of the restiction to an equivalent matter, a constitution right. learn what a fucking straw man is you nigger
>>769004660
And?
>>769004058
Man tho. Could you imagine how well we would function if only fully realized people that did their due diligence and could form sound decisions were allowed to vote. It can't happen anymore. We've degraded that privilege too far and opened it to everyone.
>>769004648
People have the capacity to kill, guns are just tools. You're missing the point.
>>769004024
>He doesn't put God first in ALL things
>>769004726
Painkillers will be another $500
>>769004735
Don't call yourself a retard. You're a person!