Can we have an honest and frank discussion about race and gun violence in this country without resorting to racial slurs?
>>768980752
4chan is a wasteland , leave this fucked site while you can
>>768980835
>>768980752
Fuck off
>>768980752
>>/r/eddit
>>768980752
There's a 90% correlation black people and homicide.
>>768980752
Fuck this, I'm on BlogTV with my fucking hands up, I'm not starting my fucking self. You fucking stupid bitch. This stupid fucking justice, all fucking righteous fucking NIGGER, Anon, is doing this shit, you fucking NIGGER!!
>>768980752
we have a liberal problem and a Democrat problem, that is all
>>768980752
Fuck off nigger.
Lmoa I just me you
>>768980752
90% of murdered black people are killed by other black people.
>>768981078
>>768981307
Okay but why do you think that's true? don't you think there are bigger issues that are creating people who are violent, based on economics, privilege, access, etc, and not that they are violent by Nature? Very underprivileged white people are also voilent.
>>768981307
>85% of murdered white people are killed by other white people
>>768980752
I don't know. Can you have a civil discussion with a feminist without it resulting in them screeching about your male privilege and how they live in a patriarchy?
>>768980752
This really was one of the best music videos I've seen in a long time. I am actually surprised to see that something like this was produced.
>>768981581
Faggot detected
>>768980752
Yeah, just as soon as you open the discussion without posting an image of a race baiter who is just stirring shit and not contributing a damp thing that is productive
>>768981701
Nice try, nigger
>>768981731
tumblrina detected
>>768980752
Fuck of nigger.
>>768981701
/thread
>>768980752
blacks commit more gun crimes on average
>>768980752
>in this country
Which country is that? Because you're speaking to a world wide internet forum right now. None of the conversation had here is to be representative of any people.
>>768981464
Does anyone feel like responding to the only intelligent comment in this thread
>>768980752
kys amerifatiot
>>768981464
i think its got shit to do with education and whatnot.
also yeah, a fair chunk of it can be genetics, so stupid families tend to stay stupid. and trust me, all races can be stupid, as evidenced by the fact peeps are gonna reply to this with "kys nigger".
>>768981464
We live in a society where (the owners of) mass media, music, and social media blame everything on white people.
Black people have everything available to them the same, if not far better (SATs, scholarships, affirmative action in government positions), yet they continue to fail more than any other race.
They live in a culture that never takes responsibility.
Murder
>He was good boy. He didnu nuffins
School
>math is racist
Jobs
>government jobs don't drug test blacks so they don't get fired
Yes, under poor whites, dirty beaners, and many others commit crimes, But Nig-nog males between 15-40 make up 3.5% of the population yet commit 60% of all crime.
When do they quit blaming everyone else?
>>768980752
I'd rather not--
4chan /b/ isnt the place;
this place would degrade the massive tragedy these mass murders are.
Leave that topic for Main Stream Media.
.
>>768981701
>He was a good boy.
>he dindu nuffins
>>768980752
>in this country
yes
>on 4chan
no
>>768980752
Niggers, stop shooting eachother!
Niggers, "NO!" Okay then.
Odd how there are so many anti-gun threads on /b/ but they've been dying down on /pol/ because they consistently get BTFO
>>768980752
> US is racist.
> Blacks are poor.
> Poor and uneducated people are much more likely to commit crime.
> US has a culture of violent crime (gangs, etc.).
Well what do you expect to happen in such an environment?
>>768980752
>>768982800
It's also worth noting that the CDC estimates a minimum of 500,000 defensive gun uses in the USA per year, with a maximum of 3,000,000
Even if every single one of the 32,000 gun deaths in the USA were murders by legal, registered guns, that's still fucking nothing compared to the MINIMUM of 500,000 defensive gun uses
Eat shit commies
>>768981464
75% single-motherhood
>>768982814
>Poor and uneducated more likely to commit crime
Some of that makes sense
>Robbery
Obviously. Good way to get cash.
>Drug dealing
Obviously. Good way to get cash.
>Assault/Homicide
Makes sense. Sometimes stealing and drug dealing can go bad I guess.
>Rape
Wait what? How does being poor give you a reason to rape someone?
>>768980835
/thread
The bottom line is you can't have an honest and Frank discussion about race and gun violence without recognizing that niggers commit a disproportionate amount of it, so much so that we'd be faggot euro country levels of gun violence if they were to be physically removed.
>>768983049
Nothing to lose, or maybe shitty situations can make shitty people
>>768982493
You mean the group that has had the disadvantages pointed at them due to discrimination because people like you think the government must actually be helping them and not fucking them over like they have been for the past 200 years?
>>768983269
If the only thing stopping you from raping someone is "lol I'm poor so nothing to lose if I go to jail" then you're a fucking subhuman
>>768982208
That is demonstrably false. They are protesting for the irresponsibility of police getting away with killing unarmed black citizens.
>>768983361
You mean the groups that keep getting disadvantaged because they keep voting for the same political party that's been fucking them over for literally more than a century?
You know those shithole cities like Chicago full of black-on-black violence? Yeah, they're not fucking republican strongholds
>>768980752
nigger
>>768983572
Unarmed white people are more likely to be shot by police than unarmed black people
>>768980752
No, because this is America.
>>768980752
Jews want you to hate niggers niggers don't understand always blaming whitey. Shit never gets solved. We all become Jew slaves. If you are in the U.S. you already are. Niggers>Jews
>>768983573
Yeah because Nixon making weed illegal and the CIA flooding the streets with crack was totally black people's fault.
>>768983361
>discrimination
>minority scholarships/ boosted SATs /Affirmative job placement
Pick one
This an honest conversation, so don't bring up stuff you, your shit parents, and so forth never went through.
>You weren't alive 200 years ago.
Stop bitching.
> government must actually be helping them and not fucking them over like they have been for the past 200 years?
This is exactly my point: blaming other people for being a burden on society. You fell into the trap.
It's the rich, white-guilt, sjws that coddle the roody-poos are the ones to blame if any.
>>768983937
Yea. The CIA was in all their houses making them smoke it.
>>768980906
Well hullo there, Rainy-face! Let's see if we can't turn that li'l frownsy of yours upsy-daisy!
>>768983376
That's looking at it without the other factors behind it. Being poor could just be the last barricade.
Of course, this is only considering how a person normally imagines a rape occurs
>>768982729
Crackers, stop shooting school kids!
Crackers, "MAGA!" Ok then.
>>768983943
So you're saying a society that had slavery for 100 years and suppressed the black population for another 100 years will NOT have an effect on the societal mindset or a physical one at all? Because they have been given an advantage that you can pin point must mean ALL black people are getting all the same treatment and that everyone is just happy and not being affected by racism
>>768980752
Niggers are subhuman scum
>>768983774
Your point? Shouldn't white people be outraged too then? If white people are getting killed by cops too irresponsibly don't you think there should be some kind of uproar?
>>768984020
Sure, and Gary Webb's suicide by two gunshot wounds to the head was totally free of any foul play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
>>768984432
Every fucking race has oppressed and enslaved, and been oppressed and enslaved - usually for longer than 200 years
>>768984020
Almost as if people use drugs to escape their hardships in poverty and just shitty life in general... hmmm.
>>768984667
>irresponsibly
That's the key word
Just because someone was unarmed doesn't mean they were shot unjustifiably
>>768983236
JUP
THIS
>>768983236
>>768984893
Shoot the man with the finger gun!
>>768984432
You're saying slavery is the reason why black people kill so many white people?
Slaves still exist in africa owned by blacks.
North africans traded white slaves for 800+ years. You want to blame whites for black on black crime or all the murders blacks commit?
You're mental gymnastics is amazing.
>>768984802
Hmmmm,
That picture is just forgetting that every race had slavery.
Hmmmm that post must be posted by a huge faggot, who like's bbc in he's left wing ass.
>>768981464
so what do you do about it? do you think affirmative action is fair?
>>768984432
You can cry, bitch, and blame whites all you want, but people will each always be responsible for their own actions.
You want to have an honest conversation? NO. You want to try and blame others.
>>768984802
Yeah and there's still effects of that shit everywhere. Literally you can take the Jewish argument you posted and argue that because Jewish Americans appear white and keep their own money in their communities they were better off than Black americans. This is not only because they appear white but had a variety of support to aid them as refugees in the 1940's as they flocked to the US shores to escape. But nah it must be black peoples fault when their own voter rights were suppressed had violent crimes committed against them, had to deal with the growing problem of the KKK weaving into our own government for so fucking long. It MUST be their fault.
>>768985161
When did I say that slavery was the reason violent crime exists?
13% of the population commit half of all violent crime.. Liberals still declare Whites as the problem..
>>768985476
So acknowledging that white people fucked up in the United States isn't apart of that conversation or did you just want to relieve yourself of this white guilt?
>>768984893
God that video fucking pisses me off.
>>768985509
>KKK weaving into government
maybe they should stop voting overwhelmingly democrat then
>>768985509
You have so much white guilt you may as well kill yourself.
>>768984893
Like I said, shouldn't you be up in arms about the police acting irresponsibly?
>>768985826
>implying I'm white
>>768985821
>implying black people voted for known KKK members during a time when black voters were suppressed
>>768985509
The Japanese in the USA were literally put into concentration camps in WW2
>>768981701
thread/
>>768985946
Yeah fucked up ain't it?
>>768985924
Well you sure as hell ain't black.
>>768980752
Sure
>>768986048
What makes you assume that? lmao
>>768985841
The overwhelming majority of police shootings are justified.
>>768986095
Niggers don't type that well.
>>768986032
Yep, and you don't hear any Japs bitching about it, but we constantly hear shit about muh slavery even though less than 1% of people owned slaves and it was literally more than a century ago so anyone who actually participated in it is fucking dead
>>768980752
>uses music video that only retards think is "deep" in order to try to spark a discussion about race
>>768984893
He threw something at the cop before the cop shit him.
>>768986100
so one car accident, one person shooting at cops and a big list of people who got killed for no reason.
>>768986342
>attempt to murder cop
>get shot
>die laughing, knowing that some retard on a mongolian sweater-knitting forum will still defend you
>>768986342
So according to you, trying to murder a cop is not worth being shot so long as you're not trying to murder them with a gun?
>>768986202
What makes you think we don't hear Japanese-Americans talking about that?
>>768986151
The fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you actually think black people type like stereotypes? Because you know it's just white people posing as black people on 4chan right? Like how many black people do you actually fucking know?
>>768981464
There are other issues, but none of them are the ones you listed. Consider that blacks were doing far better in America under Jim Crowe laws than they are now without them And I'm not trying to say that Jim Crowe laws should be put back into place, but the nuclear family unit was far more intact back then in a time when blacks didn't get any handouts and were forced to rely on themselves.
I mean just look at how much more successful blacks are in conservative states than liberal ones. And how much less crime there is by blacks for that matter. You take a black from Mississipi, and a black from Los Angeles, and it's night and day the difference in demeanor, behavior, and values. Blacks know they have no one to rely on in Mississipi. Therefore they're forced to work for what they want.
It's still the same country, and yet there's a wide margin of success and failure. Why? You think white privilege is responsible for that? Bullshit.
Everyone has equal access to everything. Everyone has equal opportunity to everything. Over half of the black population in the US, is at least middle class, or higher. There are over 36 thousand black millionaires in the United States. Tell me how numbers like that are possible if this country was as systemically racist and prejudiced as we constantly hear now. Complete garbage.
And of course it's not by nature that blacks are violent. You need only look at the crime rates committed by blacks relative to whites in countries like France, Germany, or England to see them flush with whites. What is Europe doing right that America is doing wrong?
It all boils down to culture. Black culture in America is disgusting. Blacks in America have children out of wedlock, they abandon their children afterwards, and those children grow up without a fatherless and resentful and tak out their anger in ways that will land them in prison.
>>768980752
nigger, please
>>768981633
Same here man
>>768980752
Race isn't a problem. Some people are racist, but the system is not set up to be against any race or ethnic group. This is still the best country to be in for any race. You're on the internet too much. I'm older than most people here and I've lived in many places. I've never seen any overt racism. Only seen racism from a few old southern people speaking privately in their own homes.
90% of the shit you see on the news or online was set up by whoever the subject of the "racism" was. People will go make an ass of themselves, then when they are treated poorly they cry racism.
The only problem black people have is that they kill each other and ruin their communities. Take any nice community, build apartments, when the poor blacks move in the neighborhood turns to ghetto shit. Memphis used to be a nice clean city.
School shootings are a problem not caused by guns nor will they be stopped with gun control. The problem here is how we're raising them. We're dosing them with adderall and ritilin and letting them sit inside all day on computers and video games and eating shit full of red#40 and yellow#7. This isn't healthy for development.
Kids aren't made to play sports anymore, you never see one of these shootings done by a kid on the ball team. When I was growing up you chose a sport and an instrument and by god you went to practice. Thats how you learned to deal with your peers. When you watch anime and play video games all day you get a warped sense of reality and how school should be. When a kid doesn't know how to deal with his peers, and all he knows is that being tough means being violent thats when school shootings happen.
Everyday one on one violence will always exist. Everywhere. Its just not possible to eradicate it and guns aren't the problem. In America we keep and support the right to own guns because only a gun puts a 100lb woman on even ground with a 270lb man. And self defense is a god given right.
>>768980752
Fine faggot.
What is your opening statement you flamboyant wimp?
>>768984893
I feel for the guy but it does look like he is aiming. police are people too who will protect themselves at all costs. they have split seconds to react in these situations https://youtu.be/kSiqfM2GR4E?t=40s
>>768987046
So because you havent seen any overt racism means it's not happening what so ever? Because you have all seeing eyes, all hearing ears, and are a mind-reader right?
>>768980752
niggers
>>768980752
okay faggot
>>768987150
Holy shit that's intense
>>768987046
I saw overt racism today. We do not live very well in the US, I spent a hour at a bar last year talking to someone with the same job as me in Scotland and his job was better, but not as good as it was before it got privatized.
>>768987046
>School shootings are a problem not caused by guns
what does he mean by this
>>768980752
Probably not.
>>768987449
I've never seen a gun walk itself into a school and start firing off at people
Shit, my Dad was Canadian and when he went to school there'd be guns in everyone's cars in the parking lot and the principal had a rifle in his office
>>768981464
theres this thing in the world called mental illness tend to be born with it or having a tramatic life, head injury or brain injuried induced by drugs can cause it but either way people do stupid things when their heads arent right. black white asian mexican indian w/e i doesnt matter
>>768981464
Yep very true as I live in the backwoods with all the white trash, education is a large part of it, real education not the communist propaganda they teach now, the more you know the better an education the better your chances are of doing well ,also environment if they have nothing positive to see or learn where they grow up and all they see is ignorance and crime they'll be the same
>>768986611
It means that niggers are subhuman, retarded, violent apes that don't deserve to live.
>>768987161
>mind reader
>overt
You're a dumbass. And did I say it wasn't happening anywhere?
I said its not a problem. And it isn't. When was the last time you saw a black person kicked out of a restaurant or denied from going to a school? Why dont you get your teenage outrage ass off the internet and go get your opinions from the real world.
>>768987418
Get a better job. If you cant get what you want in the US you wont get it anywhere. Thats a reflection on you, not what opportunities are available.
>>768987449
Guns dont whisper into a kids ear to go kill somebody. Do you know what "caused" means?
>>768988178
>it's not a problem
okay so of all the times I've been followed around stores and all the times I've been called a nigger for defending myself is most definitely not a problem right?
>>768983236
And not only would we have comparable gun deaths as yuros, but we'd have that same low level while being close to if not THE most armed civilian population in the world.
Black "people" have the lowest impulse control of any race. They are like a dog with a treat in front of its face that's too impatient to wait for the owner's permission and snatches it anyway. Add in low IQ and you have the reason why they dominate all antisocial statistics.
>>768981464
Toxic culture.
Blacks are ridiculed by their peers for “acting white” (raising their hand in class, showing interest in anything that might give them a leg up in the job market, etc). It’s mindless and has been perpetuated for so long that it’s tough to determine it’s origin. IMO this is the very first thing that needs to change and I have little faith that it ever will. Peer pressure is a motherfucker.
NIGGER
>>768980752
Yes but gun violence can be solved easily.
More trusted gun owners.
African Americans need to stop committing crimes, the police need to be demilitarized, mental health needs to be looked at more seriously.
>>768980835
Fpbp
Man as much as I want to, you can see that this place is full of edgy kids wanting to be cool dropping the hard -er in the comfort of their mothers house behind a screen knowing that they will never say shit in person. I'm black myself and am really considering my options to find somewhere to be safe and better my life.
I think all would be solved if you lazy niggers would get off of your collective asses and vote, motherfucker. Dems have your back and you don't give a sheeeeat.
>>768984802
wow, how many logical fallacies can one artist fit into a comic?
>>768993271
>dems got your back
im beginning to think that every single thread in /b is pasta
>>768993083
this is basically the worst place to have an actual conversation. most edgelords here are extremely antisocial and repressed, they come here to vent and say naughty things. just keep doing you man, as an individual you are not what they say about your race.
>>768993271
dems have their own backs. just like any politicians. they've voted in democrats that have done nothing for them.
>>768993732
Of course, I don't get offended cause it's not true. I'm a nerd but at the same time just be a chill guy. No one here knows me so I let them think whatever. They usually never even know I'm black unless I say otherwise.
>>768993732
sure, they do. but don't forget medicare (being defunded by republicans), medicaid (being defunded), social security (being defunded), and welfare (with a new work requirement) pointing at a socially progressive party, first, and socially respectable human behavior second. god help you if you ever find yourself destitute, or poor, or just old.
