Do you guys think we'll ever realistically be able to travel long distances in space? The more research I do on this topic, the less likely it seems. Space is just too goddamn big to get anywhere. Even if you could travel at light speed the milky way is still 100k light years in diameter. Hypothetical technologies like warp drives may never be possible, even thousands of years in the future. The Fermi paradox basically confirms that a warp drive is impossible.
I believe we will find how gravity actually works within this century and find ingenious ways to hack the shit out of it. This is what we do and there will always be people like me who live for this shit,
>>768905772
200 years ago if you told someone you could fly across the ocean they'd hang you for witchcraft.
>>768906118
15 years ago if I told you that half the people in the world would have a device in their pocket able to stream instant videos of themselves all around the world, you would have laughed and wished this wild dream was true. Including the part with infinite access to porn everywhere.
>>768905772
You're forgetting that there's length contraction and time dialation when approaching the speed of light. Basically the time will be instant from your perspective to cross the length of the galaxy. To everyone else it will take thousands of years. Kinda like time travel into he future. Read up on "special relativity."
>>768905772
OP you started the most interesting thread of the night and you shy away. Keep it alive, man.
>>768906737
Read a pretty cool scifi book that played around with some short stories based on that concept, it was pretty interesting. Like you have a lover in one port, come back 6 months your time, she's middle aged and has 3 kids with some dude.
Anyone know the name?
>>768906862
tau zero?
If you were to tell someone in the 1800s that one day the vast majority of people would be carrying a tiny brick in their pockets with the ability to obtain the entirety of human knowledge, they would think you're possessed and have you hung. Who knows what sort of technology we might discover in another 200 years.
Really though, I think humans are capable of some pretty crazy stuff. Maybe we figure out how/when to ignite Jupiter, pull certain moons into zones where we could terraform them, hell, who knows. Could buy some time 'til we figure out interstellar travel, or maybe we do hit some hard wall, dunno.
I think it's possible, we may as well strive for it, that or accept that our species will die out.
We come up with some crazy shit.
>>768906749
There aren't enough interesting people left on this board to keep it alive. I remember I made a thread a couple years back that managed to garner some fun where I pretended I was an alien from the adromeda galaxy and did an AMA. Shit was fun. Now-a-days unless you're talking about boobs or white pride no one chimes in. It's sad. I want to go back to the days of LOIC and ylyl threads not rampant with shitposts about bananas or whatever the fuck the new thing is. Alas, /b/ is just another normie porn board.
https://vimeo.com/231971631/d81b1b01ab
Juno sent a key.
Not long now.
>>768907056
Elongated muskrat has plans to colonize Mar starting with a 16 man team in 2025
>>768907056
Siphoning off raw materials via zero width wormhole directly into a reactor, not ignition, preferably.
>>768907056
I just want a giant umbrella to cool down Venus a bit.
>>768906953
Nah, maybe Hyperion?, that and the sequel to Ender's game. I'm sure it's in more stuff, that's cool to hear it's a real phenomena.
>>768907286
If Dyson sphere ever comes into existence we could pretty much do whatever the fuck we want.
I’m going to bump this thread with NASA Juno
>>768907175
Sounds pretty gay, tho.
>>768907415
It's better than nothing. Their plan is to establish a larger colony of around 50,000 by the end of the century.
I suggest you watch/hear the Vimeo link and consider the Great Red Spot is switching off.
>>768907175
I wonder if, with a society of 16 people, they develop different sexual norms. Like are they all swingers, or do they go super conservative and pair off with hard no-no rules on sex?
>>768907505
I'd be in if I had a female to fuck every day and make martian babies.
>>768907689
>>768907685
Tick tock.
>>768907685
They'll probably be a bunch of ugly virgins so I imagine they'll just freely have sex if they ever get around to it. I'm sure they'll have more than enough to keep them busy, you know, with setting up the infrastructure to support a colony on a different fucking planet.
Not that it matters, but yes.
>>768907455
>>768907811
>>768907988
I’m right here you know.
>>768907988
And dubs. Is truth.
>>768905772
>technoLOGies
>>768908453
>>768905772
I think most of what we think we know is false or a half truth. Like gravity being a curvature of space, or space itself being a fabric of space and time. We'll figure out some new nonsense and boom it will be the wright brothers all over again except we'll be flying across out solar system maybe even galaxy not just the ocean
>>768908922
Curvature of space and spacetime are well defined, measurable concepts. Also used every day in our telecoms. But there's still a lot we don't know, indeed.
>>768905772
Just invent cryo tech and give them a one way to habitable planets tell them everyone will be dead and give them enough resources, tech and knowledge to continue the human race
>>768905772
Mathematically "warp speed" is feasible by manipulating space time. It's estimated that it would require about as much energy as the US produces in a year or two but feasibility beats impossibility.
>>768906357
>15 years ago
30 years ago I was downloading infinite 4bit porn at 300 baud.
Your argument is meaningless.
Ion thrusters, time dilation v and a black hole to gravity assist us into Oblivion is all we need to bend everything op fears
>>768905772
Given enough time and assuming the world doesn't end, we will certainly figure it out.
>>768909651
Who's meaningless now, old fart.
>>768908129
Aye.
LHC is >>768908522
>>768909831
>gravity assist
>>768905945
I was thinking this something similar just a few days ago... Like what if we could do something with gravity where we latch on to the force emanating from an object and then amplify it to suck us towards it faster than light, or something along those wacky lines.
>>768905772
Yes.
>>768905772
No. It doesnt mean we should stop trying though. I think the only way we could travel long distances to new worlds is if we build a traveling space station and just keep having kids till we get there.
Even if we get ships to go the speed of light we would smash into space debree.
Another thing is gravity which is why i think the ship must be round with a huge lead core so its mass could make artifical gravity.
>>768910137
We just need to discover anti gravitons
Instant infinite thrust
>>768909496
Not practical. You will bake your ship in a radiation bubble or hit your destination with a gamma ray burst.
>>768905945
Literal mass effect
You’re looking at the experimental field generators- good night, spacefags
>>768910424
>huge lead core so its mass could make artifical gravity
technically not artificial
>>768905772
They reckon they will be able to make super computers that will be like a million times smarter than a human in like roughly 100 years or so. This will be how they unlock secrets of the universe or some shit and 6eah nogga space will be our bitch also wormholes nigga
>>768910706
The gravity would cause the core to fuse.
>>768910424
>Another thing is gravity which is why i think the ship must be round with a huge lead core so its mass could make artifical gravity.
kek
Dis nigga did it why can't we???
>>768907114
Unfortunately true. But all it takes is anons like you creating some interesting threads to improve things.and fight back against the porn/fb/log thread cancer.
Guys, just play Elite Dangerous. Its like the best space game out right now.
>>768906357
I don't consider the technological leap from peasantry to smart phones to be as great a leap as achieving FTL travel. We could very not ever discover FTL travel and it may turn out that traversing space through wormholes is impossible
>>768905772
Yes we will.
There are two possibilities here. The first being that if we never figure out faster than light travel we will simply spread slowly throughout the galaxy coloniing every habitable planet we encounter. The second possibility is that we will find a means of covering vast distances faster than light, at which point we we spread pretymuch like a virus and have this galaxy, as well as possibly others, filled pretty quickly. You may note that I said cover vast distances faster than light there because the speed of light is the universal speed limit. There may be ways around the necessity to travel all the way through all the space between one object and another though, making the possibility of covering distances faster than light possble.
Ohh, both options though lead to a third and less good possibility: that we run into a far advanced culture that does not want to share the various planets with us.
>>768906953
my nigga
>>768910999
The great filter.
>>768907861
Without breeding/reproduction, there's not gonna be any long term colonies.
>>768907398
ah yeah its from hyperion saga, can't remember the book's name name, I think its the last one.
>>768910810
What do you purpose? Laughing at things till someone does the thinking for you?
>>768908453
>NeuroLOGical Cancer
KYS
>>768911242
>neuroLOGical
>>768905945
Probably already have
>google bushman lockheed interview
t. lockheed
>>768911283
start a andy sixx thread
>>768910790
that sounds bad
>>768910999
Check'd
But seriously, if there were any other advanced civilizations in the galaxy, they would have already colonized the galaxy using the methods you've described. It might take them 2 million years, but that is a fraction of a second compared to how long habitable planets have been around.
Knowing this, there are only 2 possibilities: We are alone, or at least other civilizations are at a similar level of technology as ours. Or much more advanced civilizations do exist, but they cannot travel the galaxy due to physics limitations
>>768906993
The issue is that there is going to be a peak
>>768905772
Myziam returns
>>768906862
>>768906953
>>768907398
>>768911124
There is also Voices of a Distant Star.
>>768911401
It would make the lead melt under the pressure, so not exactly great. I’m not sure what the lead would fuse in to but if the pressure caused ignition it would probably suck.
>>768905772
a lot of things where thought impossible in the passed and proven to be possible.
i think the only way would be for the earth to come together as a single species and really tackle the problem of interstellar travel head on.
the way things are going, i believe we will destroy ourselves before that ever happens.
>>768905772
The world is nothing more than a multidimensional system of hyperbolae, when nasafags realize that we’ll get good space travel
>>768911111
Nice quints.
But wrong. We'll just send more people and those will be the ones that will reproduce. Not the first explorers
>>768911531
That'd be a helluva thing to see...
Well what do you think?
JustStarGazing.com
Quantum teleportation is now a thing too
So eventually if you're willing to destroy your body at a quantum level, you can teleport a perfect duplicate of it to anywhere you'd like.
A lot of times, when a discussion like this comes up, people touch on the question of "if it exists, why hasn't someone visited us already", or something of the sort.
What is the possibility that we're the first species with our level of intelligence as well as the desire to leave our home planet?
Is the possibility so terribly small that I never hear this brought up?
>>768911639
Probably would be much cheaper and easier to just send AI if we ever reach westworld-level technology
>>768911639
Its like a generation ship
>>768905772
iirc there was a theoretical warp drive that essentially bent space around itself, enabling it to travel those obscene distances in relatively short time frames. the theory required more power than is currently feasible to produce, however.
So there's a decent chance it will be possible, but not for at least a few hundred years.
>>768911427
Or they're aware of us but don't give a shit, they're bigger frying bigger fish, fighting other rivals, not some apes out in the sticks.
I'm just saying, you can come up with a million reasons why they might not be interested in us, just a bad case of narcissism, the same type of thinking that made us think the world was the center of everything for so long.
>>768911690
The only pb based star in the universe
>>768911639
True, the initial dudes won't be the breeders. I suppose that'll happen a ways later on.
>>768911764
It's plausible that only very recently did the universe settle enough to sustain intelligent life, so in that scenario it would make sense that other civs (if they exist) are at about our level of technology and knowledge
But evidence suggests that habitable planets have been around for billions of years, meaning civs should have had plenty of time to colonize the galaxy.
>>768911764
>Is the possibility so terribly small that I never hear this brought up
Yeah
But somebody has to be first
>>768911873
Do you stop to chat with ants on your way to pick up the mail?
>>768905945
My own theory is that gravity is the result of mass pushing down on quantum foam, creating a 3 dimensional refraction in a 4 dimensional system of plains. This explains why black holes suck in light, gravity can’t affect anything without mass, light has no mass so it should be unaffected by gravity, unless gravity is a refraction in a plane. This also explains orbits, the casting of a object from a higher dimension to a lower one results in an orbit like affect. The reason why otherwise stationary objects are pulled in, is because the quantum foam tries to level out two divits by lowering, this conjoining the two divits, and bringing together both objects
>>768911531
Well my reasoning behind the lead core is that its thing with alot of mass pull things together. So being one of the heaviest things around it would pull us to it making gravity. If melting is a problem then cool it.
The trick is to set up the first wormhole generator to open and instantly transport the fuel it needs to power itself in a continuous reaction. That means kickstarting the reaction with a phenomenal amount of power and having astronavigation advanced enough to open at the precise point above a gas giant such as Jupiter which is literally a huge batch of raw materials left for us to exploit.
The Great Red Spot on Jupiter started waning for the first time since it has been observed after the Juno probe arrived in July 2016 (4th) and opened up light-speed communications with the planet for the first time.
I... may have piggybacked something on that.
Jupiter is more than just a planet, it’s a dynamo producing radiation that blasts far out into space that is fatal to all life, the van-Allen belts of Earth are similar except super massive on Jupiter due to how the (hypothesized and probably correct) hydrogen core is pressurized to such a degree it exists in metallic form, covered in layers of lesser dense metallic hydrogen each rotating around one another causing the dynamo effect.
Jupiter is a computa.
>>768912068
What is the pecking order of dimensions? Who decides this?
I posted this in a subreply, but I thought it deserved its own post
My own theory is that gravity is the result of mass pushing down on quantum foam, creating a 3 dimensional refraction in a 4 dimensional system of plains. This explains why black holes suck in light, gravity can’t affect anything without mass, light has no mass so it should be unaffected by gravity, unless gravity is a refraction in a plane. This also explains orbits, the casting of a object from a higher dimension to a lower one results in an orbit like affect. The reason why otherwise stationary objects are pulled in, is because the quantum foam tries to level out two divits by lowering, this conjoining the two divits, and bringing together both objects
>>768912068
>gravity bends light as observed by gravitational lensing.
>>768911764
>>768912051
i like to think that if there is a type of life out there capable of interstellar travel, theyre not going to fuck with a planet thats still killing each other over land.
>>768912068
See >>768912322
It's observed and well documented.
>>768912361
11*
>>768912169
Metallic hydrogen is too awesome for humanity
>>768911960
But the earth has been able to sustaion intelligent life for much longer than mainstream sources suggest. The theory is that a major event wipes the slate clean and humanity loses pretty much 100% of its technologies. This means that if the theory is correct there has to be a civ out there with much more advanced technology than us
>>768912169
whoa
>>768910430
>>768912402
superstring theory requires 10 dimensions to work, M-theory requires 11. Although M-theory is much closer to a 'theory of everything' than superstring theory
I think there are speeds faster then light. The strength of a black hole sucks light in so that must mean it travels faster then light or it would escape. Right?
>>768911764
>What is the possibility that we're the first
Of course that's possible, as is the hypothesis that we're the only advanced civilisation that exists NOW. Previous ones could have gone extinct before our species arose while the majority haven't reached that kind of technical ability yet.
>>768911427
Another extremely likely probability is that there are more advance species, but due to most Goldilocks zone planets being super-Earths, the probability of one of those species effeciently accessing space is extremely limited by increased gravity. The amount of energy needed to bring materials into orbit to advance their civilations research to the point of interstellar travel would be rediculous.
Plus they wouldn't have as much a need to. We have a desire to spread to learn, but we also will entually venture out due to deaperation--Earth doesn't have enough to sustain our current status, both in space and resources. A superearth might, so for them, it would be a matter of "let's take enough energy to power a city for years just to launch a satellite," and clearly that isn't efficient enough without dire needs.
Maybe if they stumble upon a solution via LHC or other planet based methods of discovery(which would lead to a rediculous jump in stair step evolution), it could be possible. Just not very likely, as having access to space is pretty useful for learning how to live in and traverse space.
>>768912250
That’s a great point, upon thinking more I’ve realized the dilation previously mentioned might be 4D dilation, affecting the 3 dimensions space, and the one of time, this is because space and one are the only dimensions things that exist within the known universe outside of theoretical mathematics.
A 4D dilation explains why time moves differently in different parts of space, and he conjoining of digits in any one of the first dimensions of space could also be extended out to a dimension of time because when two points positions are the same and they touch, they must exist at the same time. Actually, I don’t see why these couldn’t be 4D divits. 4D divits explain elliptical orbits too
>>768912532
Light speed is not a constant
>>768912532
No, the mass of a black hole is great enough that it noticeably affects gravity.
>>768912661
affects light*
I'm fucking tired
>>768912352
Oh no anon. That's the thing.
If they have the vicious drive it takes to make it to the stars, they'll be some real mean motorscooters. You'll want to stay far away from those boys.
>>768905772
Basically we could "fold" the universe to go super fast, but we'd have to blink out the sun's energy in an instant just to move enough spacetime around our spacecraft. It would be like ants trying to fell a tree to cross a river, but we could.
>>768912522
>_> this is the true true
>>768912430
It could be possible that there are very advanced civs, but perhaps the physical limitations of spacetime simply prevent long distance travel in any reasonable capacity, meaning they'd have only expanded through their home system and possibly some very close by systems
>>768912505
>>768912322
I agree, I am saying gravitational refraction is actually a result of dilation in 4d hyperspace. It cannot be the result of a force because the conventionally accepted form of gravity only acts on objects with mass. Therefore, for gravity to act on an object without mass it must be a dilation, an augmentation in reality and not an applied force
Everyone here would really benefit from checking out the Kursgesagt videos on YouTube that are related to space, quantum mechanics and string theory. Honestly worth your time.
>>768912686
im sorry i dont understand what youre trying to say anon.
>>768912878
shill
it really is a great channel tho
>>768912839
I thought you might say that, your wording was a little hard to figure out, so thanks for clarifying!
can someone explain wtf im hearing when i listen to junos recordings of jupiter?
did the probe go into the gas clouds and record what it sounds like?
>>768912878
found Bill Gates
>>768908453
Fucking douche.
>>768912839
Everything we interact with it experiencing time dilation.
>>768912878
On it
>>768912979
No it merely passed by, no way could that thing get inside a gas cloud and escape Jupiter's gravity
>>768913035
>>768913057
so if it didnt enter its atmosphere how could sound travel through the vacuum of space and be recorded by the probe?
>>768912532
The mass of a black hole is great enough to produce enough refraction, or gravity, to redirect light significantly, this does not mean a black hole applies any speed greater than that of light.
>>768913126
The sound you are hearing is Juno passing through Jupiter's magnetic field, and they are not transmitted as sound waves, they are transmitted as radio waves that then get converted into sound waves
>>768913126
Sound in space actually travels via gravitational waves
>>768912979
You’re listening to the electromagnetic turbulence as millions of storms interact with each other and tremendous amounts of electrical discharge is scattered throughout its atmosphere, we can actually hear it on earth as well between 14 and 18Mhz. Jupiter talks quite a lot via the radio emissions that are part of that.
>>768913278
gay.
so im hearing magnetic radio waves that are converted into sound?
aka not actually hearing anything of significance?
what is the purpose of these recordings?
what kind of information can be gathered from this?
>>768913298
Thing is wrong, they travel at radio waves. There is no sound in space contrary to what MSM will have you believe
>>768912705
This is not true
The reason we can fold a piece of paper and go through it is because we are treating a 3 dimensional path through a 2 dimensional space. This is all that teleportation is, it is the movement in another dimension. The only issue is there are only three known dimensions of space, and the universe already has all three. So traveling through a higher dimension would be impossible. If higher dimensions of space are found, then it might be possible
>>768913355
Just like adjusting different wavelengths to light, our minds can process the data better
Plus it's neat
>>768912974
Yeah, sorry about that, great talking to you /b/ro, have a great night
>>768913298
Sound actually travels by air. Thats why you dont hear the sun exploding all day.
..... Either I'm tired or you guys are just purposefully talking like intelligent scientists.
I wanted to say my theory on space travel later on but it seems dumb.
I was thinking that maybe we'd just travel to each closest planet and have massive space stations in between for refueling and stuff like that. So eventually, millions of years later we'd have planets like the US has states.
>tfw thinking about the intergalactic battles between humans of different planets.
>>768913355
depends on what you consider to be significant. That we can observe Jupiter close enough to 'hear' it's magnetic field and transmit it back to Earth is pretty neat
>>768913470
its just disappointing.
everything we know about space is data thats been converted into other data.
theres no real naked eye observations of anything in our universe.
how the hell do we know how accurate all of our understanding of the universe is?
>>768913355
It is just like taking photographs except we’re taking photographs of something that is invisible (sub-light frequencies) and we can’t use a photo sensor to detect them so instead we use an antenna.
>>768913547
>sun exploding all day
this made me laugh, but I suppose it is true in a manner of speaking
>>768913727
um, so porn isn’t naked eye? Because that’s also data converted from Red Green and Blue component streams and composited into a color picture. Camera on Juno is the same.
>>768913371
LIGO disagrees with you
>>768911080
Terribly depressing or very impressive concept. I like to think that we're the God like space aliens of that we projet as being the first contact with man.
>>768913839
where can i see rgb images of jupiter?
>>768913912
Set filters to JunoCam first so you only get the images unprocessed. https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing
>>768913863
No they don't. You can record gravitational waves and convert them into sound, but sound waves themselves cannot travel in space at all
>>768913912
NASA.org?
>>768905772
The first step to interstellar travel is colonizing the moon, then mars or maybe even a space station capable of launching the advanced, deep space vessels that will be needed. We need jumping off points were it won't be so hard to break the grip of gravity. I don't think actual humans will be able to withstand the stresses that would be associated with long missions so maybe synthetics would be a better option. I think within this century we will have the ability to build a moon base but it won't be advanced enough to launch such deep space missions.
>>768913881
>>768913881
Let’s hope the great filter is behind us... I’ll say that. But we all know that our time here is limited. Something like Bennu in 119 years from now will be scaring the shit out of millions as it crashes into the planet but we have 3 chances to observe it up close and personal before it does that. So, please make more science children? Please? We do need you! OsirisRex is a sample return mission which was launched last year to get a sample of the regolith (the top soil) to see what kind of achor we need to build to get on and stay on it.
Yeah... pic related.
>>768914054
>>768914042
pretty cool shit actually. thanks anons.
its looks like a large grey ball with a couple orange spots.
why are there so many speculations and artist renditions showing a multitude of colors and auroras and shit?
does that mean everything has been wrong since the juno mission?
>>768905772
We will bend space around the vehicle and "travel" great distances that way
>>768914326
They aren’t really renditions, they are like porn pics, combined correctly to give us what our sensors (our eyes) should see. The composites are calibrated for authenticity, some are enhanced specifically for identifying points of interest which would otherwise be blended in with the much. Different chemicals in the atmosphere have different specrographic fingerprints so we are able to check the “renders” against what we know has a certain color index. I.e ammonia. There is ammonia snow on Jupiter.
by the way people didn't invent toilet paper until 1857...
>>768912054
No but we have people studying ants, making TV shows about them and have ants as pets.
>>768914518
god dammit im too dumb to understand this shit.
sucks being so curious about something and not able to understand it.
so the rgb images still arent what a naked eye would see?
>>768905772
Nigga you don't need warp.
When you're travelling at speeds comparable to the speed of light, the space around you gets Lorentz-compressed in the direction of travel. That is, the distance to faraway objects shrinks as the universe is squashed in the direction you are going. If you rode a beam of light to the other side of the galaxy, the voyage would be instantaneous from your perspective.
But from the perspective of people on Earth, it would take a time equal to the distance divided by the speed of light, as you would expect.
So, if you could make a spaceship of near-light speed capability, humans could get anywhere in the galaxy in the lifetime of the passengers. But the people back on Earth might go extinct in the meantime.
Einstein's "what if I rode on a beam of light" thought experiment and the beginning of the original Planet of the Apes illustrates this.
>>768914630
and nobody stops to chat with those people either.
>>768914640
interdast
>>768914636
You’re not dumb, explaining is an art and I ain’t that good at it.
The naked eye sees much less than a photo-sensor however, here on earth, the filtering effects of our atmosphere help us see more of the features on Jupiter than the Hubble telescope and Juno would “see” if they were human, even though they are in space away from the atmosphere of earth.
We can see more of Jupiter’s features with our atmosphere in the way, to a human in space - looking at Jupiter is unspectacular. Filtering various bits of light out (not adding) is what gives us the impressive contrasted and colorful photos of Jupiter, as we would expect to see them if we were looking at Jupiter through our own atmosphere.
I hope that clarifies it, please chime in if I missed something,
the thing with space travel is that you shouldn't go to it, it should come to you...
>>768905772
>Do you guys think we'll ever realistically be able to travel long distances in space?
Not if The Contingency shows up
>>768911427
How do you know they're not out there and we aren't their descendants that interbred with the lowly barely sentient half monkey humans that existed on this planet?
>>768914777
Trips checked and stopping to say hello neighbor.
>>768915022
holy shit i think you clarified it enough to help me understand.
so pretty much what a human eye sees is because of the earths atmosphere?
so a human in a spaceship in orbit around jupiter, what would they see? the grey sphere that juno sees?
>>768915308
Yeah, Jupiter without our atmosphere filters looks like a murky yellow disk. I do believe you can find those composites on the JunoCam site as well- each zip file has all the separate channels and the final automatically combined image. Example: https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/Vault/VaultDownload?VaultID=15071&t=1523298980
>>768914777
So you believe there's an advance alien race out there who knows about us but just ignore us? Pretty unlikely.
>>768912352
Or fuck with a planet where the primitives are obsessed with the hue and shade of each other's skin
>>768915308
>>768915483
Here ya go
the size of space is a hoax by the same scientific community that would have you believe the earth is round
https://www.instagram.com/liveastrostream/ need I say more?
>>768915736
>>768915488
yes how is that harder to believe than there being no aliens out there at all?
i find my belief easier to believe than aliens being among us.
why the fuck is intelligent life going to meddle with developing planets?
thats implying they still have shit to learn about inferior forms of life. these niggas be traveling through space my dude.
>>768915596
Jupiter fascinates me, it always has ever since I saw 2001 and 2010.
We should be busting our balls to take a look under the ice on Europa. It's entirely feasible that at least primitive life exists there.
Pic related, taken with my modest telescope setup.
Space is the ultimate abundance. Resources, water, everything. Our planets resources are scarce.
This is a crappy quick filter badge just so you can see the difference it makes filtering out certain wavelengths. Added Juno model for flair because I worked directly on their composite instead of doing each R,G, and B frame independently then combining them.... so it sucks. Some of the best ones have been made by the public. Basically, who can make the best “atmospheric displacement filter” wins.
Europa is going to be interesting because it might link to “the great filter” and tell us where we stand exactly. The gravity of Jupiter causes the planet to stay warm by constantly flexing it... if there is life we will know, so we should go and look - definite. Need public support for it.
Psyched you have a telescope bud, its more than I have at home. Great picture too for what its worth anon.
>>768916215
We will go asteroid mining in the next 15 years. #cislunar1000 (note: no traps allowed)
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>Seismic monitors set up on earth register seismic echoes and the reflections they make as they pass through the planet, oddly enough they map out an actual sphere, so our planet is probably is a sphere?
Don’t worry, we’re going to Mars with the massive project called Insight to do the same experiment, you know, because I already founded The Flat Mars Society ^
>>768916506
Thanks, I have loads more but they're all huge tiffs. That's the best shot I ever got of Jupiter and moons.
I don't get the chance to use it as often as I like as I live in a big city so light pollution is an issue. There is a dark sky park within driving distance that I keep meaning to get to but never seem to have the time.
Here's one off my moon shots. Setup is perfect for the moon.
>>768916215
Abundant in death and g rays mostly
>>768911697
gofundme com/pursuing-my-passion-in-life?utm_medium=wdgt this you?
Great thread my fellow space fags
Here is a cool youtube video if anyone wants to watch...
https://youtu.be/TBikbn5XJhg
You can get anywhere in the Milky Way with one of these.
>>768916982
Great shot. If you’re looking for an audience a bunch of Astronerds stream their scopes on Instagram (keeping it simple). Be inspired to go out to that dark park and maybe take a friend with you, this is /b/ so you might get two types of moon, one that comes with surprise butt...
According to the Kardashev scale we havent even made it to type 1 civilization. And until we dont , i think we will travel anywhere subsequently far, anywhere past lightyears.
Type 1 civilization is expected to be reached is 100-200 years, plus however many years for something to be carried. So it will be a while...
We as humans have explored/discovered a mere fraction of whats out there.
This was inspired by Jupiter’s Juno mission (spot in the album art)
https://open.spotify.com/album/4XBUzSfagLLnHoXzH2MBm1?si=r6kMyvB3S1uYO5xA44sUlQ
If you don’t have Spotify its on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/QxTqBZkholI
I am retiring to bed now spacefags so thanks for the company, enjoyed this thread- nice one OP.
>>768917433
There's a local astronomy club here that I keep meaning to get involved with, but real life always gets in the way. The shitty thing about amateur astronomy is it always involves long periods outdoors at stupid o'clock in the winter which is fucking freezing here in the UK. To get good shots takes luck with the weather and extreme patience. With long exposure shots (the jupiter shot is about 2 mins exposure), even the slightest vibration or miscalibration of the tracking motor ruins the whole shot. Just don't have the time for it these days.
I know what I'm doing in my retirement years though.
Spent maybe 700 hours in these threads. Don’t consider it time wasted. But I sure a fuck don’t want to spend/waste more time in them. Until the human race changes its selfish mentality, “we’re” not getting anywhere. In 100,000 years the human race as we know it will be different. That doesn’t mean “better”either. Law of averages, something devastating will occur. Wipe out everything and everyone? No. There will be many evolutions and mutations. The future humanoids may discover relics of the past, and look at it maybe with curiosity or with no interest and indifference. “Time capsules” may be like how we find an old pile of garbage now. The planet will live on, although it will loose its current definition of earth.
>>768917859
That’s the way to do it, hopefully by then we might have some better clothing inspired by this dude to stay warm (pic related)
Dream big
Act big
Inspire others.
>Flat Mars Society.
>>768918018
Be the change you want to see!
Cliché but you know it’s coming from the right place.
>>768918018
Unless you’re Musk, people aren’t going to do anything unless there is money to be made. Or competition with another superpower.
>>768905772
sure, just as soon as everyone gets behind Tump.
Then space travel will happen.
>>768918045
Indeed. I'd encourage anyone with an interest in astronomy to pick up a telescope, even a cheap reflector. It's addictive and thoroughly rewarding.
Here's one of Saturn. It looks unimpressive until you realise just how far away that motherfucker is.
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OMG.
I hope this isn't samefag cause that exchange was gold. beat me to the joke.
>>768907114
>There aren't enough interesting people left on this board to keep it alive
you say that, but here we are talking about space travel and shit.
you are right to a degree though. most people wouldn't give this thread a thought because there are no (logs, tits,cuck porn, banana, blm, or Gambino) fuck those nonsense threads.
>>768918729
PSA for the uninitiated- The logs are on our side. Sorry for the inconvenience lately but we are waging a war and using (misappropriation of logs) to do that. Endeavors to make it right, they are acting alone but not always and they don’t know it’s us. -_o
>>768918389
mfw Cassini plummeted into Saturn and died
>>768919002
Preach it.
I'm with you guys and have no issue with logs... at least you're creating OC. My weapon of choice is Spiderman.
IMO, the cancer that need to be eliminated are FB/IG, WWYD, Celeb and Pics you shouldn't share, in that order. I've been involved for just over a month now and have noticed an increase in thread spamming in that time. It may take months, but we will get our point across, I'm sure of it.
Why the mods don't just create a porn containment board is beyond comprehension.
>>768919420
Interstellar is coming truer each and every day. The blight is upon us. We must prevail. The music was stunning enough that I submitted this and they liked it! https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing?id=2709
>>768918389
Like this ?
>>768919253
It was sad, for sure.
However, the final few passes through the rings and the atmospheric data harvested during the final descent will keep scientists busy for years to come.
>>768919632
Quality photo-
>>768919680
Right in the feels! Awww
>>768919420
You shitposter, you. <3
>>768919632
That is fucking awesome mate. Way beyond what I can accomplish. I looked at a Nextstar but it was out of my price range at the time. Loving the moon's shadow, would kill to get that resolution.
I use a Skywatcher 130P myself.
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>>768919002
almost like the new troll face, trolling the trollers.
except that was better than your log rolling you do.
and clever
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The se are good demos of how our atmosphere works as a filter stripping away the blue hues revealing the detailed bands and spots. Both very good for amateur astronomers. I’ve wanted to get a scope for the mrs so I’m noting those specs down.
If you can’t afford a telescope I highly recommend weed.
>>768920154
Goes without saying you should go for the best balance of optics quality and aperture size that you can afford, and don't skimp on the mount either. A stable, quality mount is hugely important.
Also worth mentioning that none of these images are 'naked eye'. Both mine and the other anon's images have been produced by recording a movie and processing through a program called Registax which selects the best frames from your movie and composites them to produce an image. It can be a time-consuming process.
>>768921057
i think i can hear flat earthers on /x/ reeeeing at this right now
>>768921214
I find it incomprehensible that anyone actually believes that shite.
I think they just enjoy being special little snowflakes and arguing with people.
>>768921442
theres a couple of them who seem to be legitimately delusional, but yeah pretty much.
>>768921600
seems legit
kek
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https://youtu.be/Ug8aM9v40Sg
