how do you beat depression?
>>768876443
you don't
>>768876443
Mushrooms
suicide is 100% effective
>>768876628
+SAM-e. You’re welcome.
>>768876628
where can i get mushrooms?
>>768876628
Fixes the brain.
>>768876443
This is coming from ur master
https://youtu.be/5vP0bsHuBHo
>>768876727
>2018
>not using "he's not wrong" version
>>768876628
Its not a troll. Shrooms have powerful antidepressant qualities that last about 3-4 days.
They've gotten me through some really rough times.
Plus they're fun.
>>768876443
If you're under 27 or so then you wait till then because 90% of the time people aren't actually depressed they are just whiny little bitches, if you're in your thirties and up and have depression it can really fuck up your life.
It's like people who claim to be alcoholics in their 20s, majority will just grow out of it because they can't drink their face off anymore without feeling like shit and their wallets start to dwindle down.
With that said. Only way to beat depression is to honestly find ways that make YOU happy, you can take all the advice you want in the world, but everyone has their own version of it, and everyone has their fix.
Unfortunately not everyone can figure that out, it's really hard to. I also wouldn't disregard pills or like someone said drugs to maybe ajar your brain a little. I heard good LSD with a good trip can do wonders.
Also, lay off the booze, it will only fuck with your hormones even more.
>>768876726
ask around or buy a grow kit online. grow kits are legal.
>>768876443
Depression is brain inflammation.
Brain inflammation occurs because of stress, poor food/drink habits, poor life habits (sleep and shit).
Good luck fixing theses.
I had severe depressions for 5 years, now I feel so much more stable, you can make it, hold on :)
>>768876443
Unplug his controller while he's using the bathroom.
>>768877079
Yepp. My anti depressant/anxiety is a mushroom cap every other day.
>>768876443
You don't beat depression... depression beats you.
>>768876628
Is this true because weed and X really help for like 12 hours but then I get worse
>>768876443
Diet has helped me and a wee bit of exercise. Mostlyjust stop thinking sad shit. If you start feeling sad or thinking sad tuff watch a comedy or go the fuck to sleep.
>>768876443
You don’t. It’s here forever.
>>768876628
Hallucinate and it will refresh your brain.
I do acid, specifically, 1p-lsd. I became way more normal after taking it when my winter depression came in.
I don't know if I should link it, so I won't, but googling 1p-lsd reddit should help.
If you want to know more, ask
>>768877310
>taking ecstasy to help with depression
That’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Shrooms are proven to help with anxiety and depression. Go buy some and microdose (1-2 caps) every other day and you will be happy
>>768876443
cymbalta
>>768877188
Yea no.
Stop reading pseudo medical horse shit.
If you're brain, or the tissue that makes up your brain is swelling it's life threatening.
Headaches and what not are not 'brain swelling' they are blood vessels, muscles and connective tissue around your spine, shoulders, upper back and skull. Sometimes spinal fluid becoming dehydrated can cause a major head ache as well. The only 'mystery' headache that still isn't fully understood is a migraine or even worse a cluster headache, which happens with blood flow or nerve ending around blood vessels around the brain inside the skull. I guess that could lead to depression since it can happen at any time.
>>768877088
im 34
You don't as previously stated.You can only learn to manage it. 14 years so far for me. Accept you have it, learn the signs of a bad patch coming, try to learn the things you can do to avoid or lessen those patches. And don't take medication unless you're literally fighting to not kill yourself every day.
>>768877691
Kind of a long read, but it’s definitely worth it
https://theestablishment.co/the-magic-of-my-mushrooms-a-depressives-journey-to-microdosing-1675a7cf15a4?gi=e1ceeff071e9
>>768877649
US or EU? How do you avoid a police sting and bust when it's sent to you, and you accept the package?
>>768877828
Check out SAM-e as well.
Eat decent food, drink plain water, get some sleep, clean your room/apt/house, get some exercise, spend some time in the sunlight, make achievable plans. Keep busy. Don't wallow in self-pity. Maybe things aren't as bad as you thought.
>>768878328
Why me?
>>768876443
Do something different every day. Doesn't matter what it is. Just do something different to break out of your stagnant daily ritual. Gradually as you start experiencing more things you have more things to look back on to be happy about, regardless of whether you biffed it at that new thing or not. You'll feel better that you at least tried it.
All that matters is you doing something that your comfort-zone-limited mind doesn't want you to do. It's difficult but it's worth it.
>>768878655
>Do something different every day. Doesn't matter what it is. Just do something different to break out of your stagnant daily ritual.
That's one of the major struggles for someone who suffers from depression. They can't even bring themselves to even get out of bed, let alone do something as drastic as doing something different. If someone truly does suffer from it, even little things like brushing their teeth can feel like a burden.
Other measures need to be taken to get them to that point. It's a slow grueling process, but it's not impossible.
>>768878655
i don't think you understand how depression works
>>768879281
How does depression work?
>>768877983
US; is considered a controlled analogue substance, but if you were just using it I don't think the cops care in my state.
EU is a bit stricter depending on the country, only because the government cares more about it.
The one I get mine from are straight from a lab in Canada. They ship it by snail mail and you hope to god it goes through customs. After that, it's smooth sailing.
>>768876443
go out with friends
>>768879595
If you gotta ask then you have no idea.
In fact, even people with it, can't even explain it.
>>768879614
My bro get's all sorts delivered to hte uk.
First time in 10-15 years we've seen lsd in the city.
People going on about how they know how to take "acid" everyone of them goes mental on lsd. In a good way obviously.
>>768879835
People explain what depression is to them every day. That's how psychiatrists and therapists still have jobs. You just so happen to be a person who can't. Don't lump everyone in with you and your inability to explain what it is to you.
>>768880278
cool, now go back to /r/iamverysmart
>>768879614
>>768880141
Another question then: What do you think about microdosing? Do you think it works? Could it work? (Testing tabs, then dissolving them in alcohol for volumetric use of about µ10-15 every few days for a period of a few months)
>>768879835
Depression for me is usually lethargy, a feeling of futility in everything(from making food to watching tv to going out or going to work or conversations, nothing seems to have worthwhile purpose) lack of enjoyment(nothing i usually enjoy i mean, like funny movies or video games, sex, music, talking about stuff that interests me) a general feeling of despair as if nothing will ever get better, low energy(can't think, don't want to move, even crying seems like too much effort) apathy(can't feel things, e.g someone tells me so and so died or such and such a person did something bad or good or someone is in hospital etc and i can't feel anything except maybe minor annoyance that i'm expected to react to it) and insomnia(i can't sleep even though i'm tired)
You just learn to live with it. Like herpes.
>>768880141
It became a phenomenon here too, my city is growing and pretty fast. It didn't see acid until a decade ago, but now a lot of high schoolers can get their hands on it.
>>768880641
The way the labs did my blotters had to have been in streaks or diagonal stripes. I've tried cutting up small squares of .8 cm into quarters, but some days I wouldn't feel much and others I almost trip.
The days it was minimal were the ones that felt refreshing. Even if you were tired from a shitty night of sleep, you could focus and think like it was coffee.
>>768880641
No idea. Heard it can. Not looked into it.
My bro stopped cutting after taking dmt though.
>>768881216
I wasn't talking about generic hallucinogens(seems to be what people round here are calling acid as long as it's a tab) i meant real lsd.
We didn't have it for ages and now everyone wants it. Maybe you get the real lsd in your city and call it acid but acid became a general term for hallucinogens that were like acid over here.
>>768881496
>that were like acid
Like lsd*
>>768876443
Find something meaningful to pursue. Pot helps too as long as you don't let it suck you into apathy. Smoke a bowl and go do some yardwork. You'll feel better about life in general.
TLDR clean your room, Bucko.
>>768877298
Thank you, Dr. Smirnoff.
>>768880278
So why does it take several sessions of blabbing on and on to get their point across?
Most people who visit a shrink never really explain anything, just rambles of how they feel.
You can try and get your point across all you want, but people with depression can't comprehend what's happening to them, otherwise they can easily fix the issue, like a normal person.
>>768882826
You don't know shit son.
Normal people never solve their problems. Realizing this helped both helped my depression while giving me new cause to be depressed.
>>768876443
You don't. It follows you your entire life, beating you down until you're at peace with going to sleep and never waking up.
>>768884056
So you never solved your depression did you?
>>768876443
You embrace it. You let it light a fire. You let it be your fuel.
>>768876443
Meta cognitive therapy.
>>768876443
You don't. Eating a "clean" diet (no refined sugars and cutting out processed food), getting some form of regular exercise and trying to force yourself to think happier thoughts throughout the day can help. Drugs can help too, but you'll find that nothing is a 100% cure-all.
>>768882826
>otherwise they can easily fix the issue, like a normal person.
So you have some magic tool that allows you to balance and raise/lower your norephedrine,seratonin,GABBA,dopamine at will?
>>768886104
I should also say that making yourself do things that take you out of isolation helps. Humans are social creatures, even though some of us don't want to admit it (excluding a small percentage). I find the longer I isolate myself the more I feed into my own misery.
>>768886104
>but you'll find that nothing is a 100% cure-all.
Lithium
>>768886470
>GABBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkxGs4ETeg4
>>768876443
a spring in your step, a can do attitude, and a hot cock right up the arse.
>>768886561
Drugs work differently for people. If it's worked for you, fantastic.
>>768876597
this, it follows you around so the only thing you can do is find stuff you like to do.
>>768886947
Lithium works in 99.99% of all cases, not just bipolar either.
It is a universal drug that isnt a big pharma drug, it occurs naturally and we jsut add a carbon atom on to it so its easier to compress in to a pill form,which is why they dont perscribe it right away when someon has depression.
>>768886470
No I don't.
But if that's how you think depression can be solved per say, then go ahead, repress those hormones. But for some it's not like that.
Let that sink in.
>>768876443
Small drug induced coma. Might rewire your broken brain. Or you could suck it up and fix your problems.
>>768887212
It isnt hormonal and i have had genetic and hormone tests and nothing came out as an outlier.
>how you think depression can be solved
It literally can.
If you have legitimate depression medication is your own route to actual help.It is the chemicals, or lack there of, in your brain that cause depression and anxiety.That is LITERALLY the only way to fix it.
>but for some its not like that
The human brain has been studied for hundreds of years even more so with modern tech, everyones brain has a "normal" state, if you deviate from that,via lack of chemicals in your brain, thats depression.We have the brain mapped out, its a science
>how do you beat depression?
you don't
you either cope with it or kill yourself
>>768887212
There are different types of depression. You have the "BooHoo. I don't like how my life is." and then you have the brain chemistry type that has no reason, other than something is broken. Something that can't be "easily fixed".
>>768887123
Not they don't prescribe it because it isn't efficient in most cases.
>>768887424
I know lots of people who are/were on antidepressants and the only ones that become an hero are the ones who stay on their meds and take then regularly. Antidepressants are a con.
>>768887424
>We have the brain mapped out, its a science
I have to disagree with the last part.We don't really know too much about the brain tbh.
> Have a child
> Name him "Depression"
> Buy a stillson wrench
> Beat the shit out of him?
>>768887706
Does it have to be a stillson? Can we get a cheap Chinese one off eBay?
>>768887588
It is very efficent.
"insite:nih.gov lithium"
>>768876443
You're always gonna have problems getting rid of a depression in one piece.
>>768882826
Having worked in mental health and gaining PTSD and depression from doing so, I can say that you are wrong. I know all the techniques and still cannot fix it entirely. I would certainly suggest to anybody to try all available options, shrooms and weed is the way to go, but you got to be sensible so as not to be fucked all the time.
>>768887977
Take lithium
>>768876443
You don't beat depression. Depression beats you.
>>768876443
kill yourself
>>768888041
You first. I have seen enough people taking that to know how dangerous they are.
>>768888159
I've been on it for 5 years.
It literally made me not be depressed 100%.
>dangerous
It isnt dangerous...
All you have to do is not eat a LITERAL pound of salt everyday and you're good.
>>768887960
What? Read One Piece?
I said I have depression not that I was a faggot.
>>768888255
Sure it can help people if the issue is due to chemical imbalance, BUT with psychological trauma as an example pills would not fix all. When I say dangerous I mean dangerous in the effects on behavior and personality, with people who do not have chemical imbalance.
>>768888538
>chemical imbalance
And here is where you're wrong.
In many south american countires, lithium is prevelent in the only drinking water source.
It has been scientifically proven that lithium effects the brain positivly.They have longer life,less crime, and overall happier living
>>768888702
>south america
>less crime
nice b8
>>768888930
Indigenious tribes you retarded aspie
>>768888702
Thats all fine and correct if you live in south america, however those who have not been drinking such water their entire life do not relate to it. Somebody from south america who moved to europe lets say would be struggling given the lack of lithium.
Talking to a doctor , taking medication , changing your diet and regular exercise . You will be amazed at how easy it is and will wonder how you used to be like that . But thats only if you want to change . Most people dont want to , they get used to it and it ruins their lives .
>>768889117
U
R
RONG
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Lithium-Builds-Gray-Matter-in-Bipolar-7842
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02039479
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4504869/
https://www.selfhacked.com/blog/the-benefits-of-lithium/
https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(05)01058-2/abstract
>>768877848
Nope thats stupid . Take medication . You know in a month if its going to work . Seriously , why would you give someone such bad advice ?>>768877917
>>768876443
cardio exercise is wellknown to lower depression & anxiety.
meds: depression : Paxil.
anxiety : benzo group : valium, xanax, ativan, more
>>768876443
>>768881216
>2 hours ago
I doubt you're still here, but somehow the thread is still alive. The way to microdose is absolutely not to cut it, for correct and reliable dosage you need to dissolve the LSD in for example alcohol or distilled water (not tap water). Dissolve µ100 in 10ml, and if you've got a 1ml dropper, each drop is ~µ10 (probably less, I doubt it's as pure as µ100 per tab).
Check it out: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing/
>The days it was minimal were the ones that felt refreshing. Even if you were tired from a shitty night of sleep, you could focus and think like it was coffee.
Alright, maybe worth trying then.
>>768884056
Yes , normal people do solve their problems .
>>768889368
Bipolar is a depression subtype for a start.
Estimated Study Completion Date : June 2018. Are we time travelling?
The results show positive results for some people but not for others. Therefore as I was saying it does not work for everybody.
>selfhacked
Not exactly in anyway official then.
Last link mainly looks at bipolar which as I said before is a depression subtype.
124gr of vitamin Pb
>>768889924
Bipolar is no a subset, bipolar is exactrly that BI , meaning two.Bipolar isnt a subset of depression because you have MANIC episodes, AKA the opposite of depression.There for it cannot be a subset.
>June 2018
But you can read the fucking data you cock mongering nigger faggot
Results are overwelmingly positive in every test case.
Find me 10 cases where they werent
>selfhacked
READ THE FUCKING SOURCES THEY LINK
HOLY SHIT
>>768889924
Not the other anon but explain how lithium works for people that are resistant to other drug types?(SSRI/SSNI/Antipsychotic/Anticonvulsive/etc)
And yet lithium works were other drug had never worked for people,for depression?
>>768877475
this is not depression your just a pussy
>>768878151
This guy said it
>>768876443
Suicide
>>768891353
nice OP
>>768876443
Kratom. It helps me to enjoy things again and it's not really harmful but be careful you can get addicted if you do it every day.
Hot cock up the arse
>>768876443
Adderall
>>768877088
Last paragraph especially, good advice. Never discount hard drugs for hitting reset, kinda what they're meant for..
>>768878151
This. But you need motivation to do this. And it’s not easy when you’re already depressed. That’s why you need to keep a daily routine and be disciplined
>>768879595
depression is like molasses poured on your brain,
really gums up the gears and sloooowws things down
>>768876443
Some other rightly mentioned that everyone has their own version/way, but dead serious getting some more sunshine into your life helps. I guess it's a better balance of melatonin or something.
But I moved to a place where it was basically spring/summer year round and poof my depression disappeared for 3 years straight. Moved back up to a cloudy area and godamnit it's creeping on again.
>>768876443
Go out in the woods biking, hiking or whatever just get your ass up.
>>768876443
you give up
>>768877310
mushrooms made me feel better long term just one use.
>>768876443
Focus on cultivating healthy and responsible habits to build up the facilities to better deal with issues.
It's not guaranteed you'll ever get over your depression/anxiety/whatever, but if you are consistent in your self care, you can get to a point where in a slump, you'll be able to tend to your own needs and more quickly bring yourself out of that shit instead of gravitating toward bad tendencies that only prolong your low state.
The trick is accepting this is a constant balancing act, it's not realistic to expect to be 100% at all times, this is life after all, shitty things are bound to happen.
>>768877786
Garbage
Start small. Beat off first
>>768876443
it sticks around but it can become easier to handle.
I used to speak with someone once and week and started taking medication, and exercise. Just take an hour walk a day.
Now after 4 years I'm finally off my medications, having a fiance and life is going good.
I really wish I knew man
I could tell you how to help your depression but what the fuck have you done for.me cunts
>>768876443
>beat
>depression
Haha
No, no, you see, it's like Pac-Man. Just when you think you're there, when you think that's "The End," you find out the horrible truth.
You weren't even supposed to fucking MAKE IT there. When you finally get to the top you realize it's just the bottom. All over again. Everything's a giant fucking cycle of mediocrity.
I don't know who it is at this point. Jews? Stonecutters? Freemasons? Rothschilds? What's even happening? The whole world's coming apart at the fucking seams. Barring deus ex machina powarz, we're basically heading into the pilot episode of a gritty anime meant to pander to westerners.
Dibs on side character who scores the pussy and dies. Fuck you all, I called shotgun on that shit.
One of you faggots can take Kurt Cobain or something