Ask a Schizophrenic anything.
Free (you)s for all posters.
I may take a while to reply sometimes, be patient.
ever had a masturbatory fantasy involving a close family member?
>>768767049
Born with it ? or did you get it sometime later in your life ?
>>768767156
>ever had a masturbatory fantasy involving a close family member?
I have, but I'm not going to go into detail.
>>768767195
>Born with it ? or did you get it sometime later in your life ?
I believe I was born with it. I've always been a bit quirky. But, there's no way to really know.
>>768767049
how does it feel, to have it ?
Do you hear voices that tell you to kill people? Or is that just a stereotype?
>>768767049
When did it finally click for you?
>>768767049
how do you feel when people think you mean you have multiple personalities
what am I saying you're schitzo you don't have feeling
What sort of things do you hear/see?
>>768767049
Do you actually hear them? I developed it later in life but don’t have the ability to hear things in my head anymore due to an injury earlier in life. She talks to me instead by me just thinking her words like my own thoughts, while she also visualizes a keyboard typing her words as she says them. I always thought it would be lovely to actually hear her
No one cares about ur self diagnosis
>>768767421
>how does it feel, to have it ?
Feels like being trapped in someone else's head.
Unconnected thoughts coming and going with no warning. Thoughts I have no control over, and no desire to think.
>>768767527
>Do you hear voices that tell you to kill people?
I do hear voices, they do not tell me to kill people.
>Or is that just a stereotype?
It's true in some cases, but largely, is a stereotype.
>>768767610
>When did it finally click for you?
Around 20.
>>768767864
>Thoughts I have no control over, and no desire to think.
give us an example
also post tits
Do you have friends who are schizophrenics as well? Like, is there a support group?
>>768767049
>Ask a LARPer anything
My sister has this and she's in denial about having it. She believes the voices are real and that they speak the truth. did you go through something like this? is there anyway I can help her deal with the truth?
>>768767810
>how do you feel when people think you mean you have multiple personalities
It doesn't trigger any sort of emotional response, such as offense or anger. It does make me.... annoyed, for lack of a better word. At the lack of education for mental health.
>what am I saying you're schitzo you don't have feeling
That isn't very nice,Anon.
>>768767827
>What sort of things do you hear
Mostly just unconnected sentences, or words. Formally known as "word salad". I don't typically speak in this way which is how the term is normally used.
And I often mishear what people say. It's difficult to provide examples for that though.
>/see?
I see a large range of things. Mostly just "miss-seeing" things. Such as, a stopsign will look like a person. Or a tree will look like a monster. Etcetera.
>>768768169
>And I often mishear what people say
you can get a free hearing test at costco or almost any other hearing aid store. you know it might not be 100% the instanity
>>768768142
Not OP, I went through this. When it first manifested I thought they were an AI from the future hacking the sim we are in to contact me in the past
Is Monogatari any good?
>>768768320
So how did you get over it?
>>768767841
>Do you actually hear them?
You mean, like in my ears?
Somewhat. It's like a whisper that originates from my head and leaks out of my ears. If that makes any sense.
>while she also visualizes a keyboard typing her words as she says them.
Hm, visually communicating with hallucinations? Never heard of that before.
>>768767853
>No one cares about ur self diagnosis
You care enough to inform me how "little" you care.
>>768767995
>give us an example
An example of a thought?
That's not very easy to do. I cannot organize psychotic thoughts into words, especially something that's happened in the past.
If it was happening at this very moment, I may be able to. But, it's not.
>also post tits
Why would I do that?
you want see my penis?
have you ever had a boyfriend/girlfriend? Did they know you had mental illness?
>>768767195
People aren’t generally born with schizophrenia, it most often begins to surface in the late teens - early 20’s. Disproportionately affects men over women.
>>768767049
can you tell the difference between a hallucination or a vivd imagination? i had a great roommate who dealt with schizophrenia; he'd ask me how many people are in the room, or whether I was hearing the same sound he was hearing. I was always happy to fact-check with him. he was often paranoid, but I'd just ask him to hang out and maybe watch a movie to take his mind off the voices.
>>768768011
>Do you have friends who are schizophrenics as well?
A few. I tend to associate mostly with people who are broken.
>Like, is there a support group?
I'm sure there is, but I am not affiliated with any.
>>768768114
>Ask a LARPer anything
I've never actually LARPed. You seem pretty knowledgeable though.
>>768768142
>did you go through something like this?
I did for a short period of time. I can't really explain how I managed to realize that they weren't real. I still treat them as if they were.
>is there anyway I can help her deal with the truth?
There isn't really much you can do, other than stay with her. Depending on how it progresses for her, she may just get over it by herself.
If she is on medication, make sure she is taking her prescribed doses, it usually does wonders for things like that.
>>768768374
>Is Monogatari any good?
I enjoyed it.
Have you ever taken LSD-25? If you have, did you feel like it changed the way you think in anyway?
I have had an episode before of slight mania when comming down on acid. Ive had voices say things behind my ears and thoughts of people Idk tell me things in my head. Its also commom for users that a predisposed of getting schizophrenia later in life will kickstart the symptoms of their schizophrenia earlier on in life.
>>768768386
I realized there’s nothing special about me so there’s no reason for an AI to care about my life
Hey buddy.. how's you doin'?
>>768767049
Have you ever fingerad your butthole?
>>768768724
medication doesnt work for her. she says she hears a lot of voices like the whole world is talking to her. she'll argue or laugh randomly with them.
>>768768270
>you can get a free hearing test at costco or almost any other hearing aid store.
Yes, I'm aware. I've had my hearing tested quite a few times.
>>768768614
>you want see my penis?
Not really.
>>768768649
>have you ever had a boyfriend/girlfriend?
Yes.
>Did they know you had mental illness?
Yes.
>>768768678
>can you tell the difference between a hallucination or a vivd imagination?
Not really. They both kind of blur together.
But, there are some tells. Like if I close my eyes and a random image shows up like, say, a goldfish with big teeth and googly eyes, I would say that is more of a hallucination than a vivid imagination.
But if I close my eyes and actively try to picture something, and it shows up with the same clarity, I would say that is vivid imagination.
>I was always happy to fact-check with him.
Sounds like you two were pretty good friends.
>>768768934
>Have you ever taken LSD-25?
I have not. The only recreational drugs I've ever done is weed and cocaine.
>predisposed of getting schizophrenia later in life will kickstart the symptoms of their schizophrenia earlier on in life.
Yeah, a lot of people wind up kickstarting it with drugs.
>>768769034
>Hey buddy..
Heya, friend. It's been a while.
>how's you doin'?
Somewhere between great and horrible. I can't decide.
>>768769082
>Have you ever fingerad your butthole?
Who hasn't?
>>768769111
>medication doesnt work for her.
That's something she should bring up to her attending if she is still actively seeing them.
A medication change could do her a lot of good.
>she says she hears a lot of voices like the whole world is talking to her.
That's probably one of the worst things to deal with.
>>768768934
Indeed, there are cases of genetically predisposed people "activating" their inherent schizophrenic symptoms via use of hallucinogens, but this is still rare. Mostly schizophrenic symptoms arise naturally, in the mid-late 20's.
>>768767864
>I do hear voices, they do not tell me to kill people.
What kinda shit do they say?
>>768769276
>Weed and cocaine
Nigga
Are you a furry?
Why the fuck am I asking this question?!
>>768769438
DUDE every white person I've met smokes weed and does blow. Grow up.
>>768769542
I am not white(unfortunately)
>>768767049
Should I quit therapy? I've been in dbt for 5 months and it hasn't helped at all. The only nice thing is group therapy giving me social interaction which I otherwise lack.
>>768767049
How severe is your schizo? I only see shadows and hear inaudible whispers. But the paranoia is difficult to live with.
>>768769352
>What kinda shit do they say?
Random nonsense, mostly.
Like sentences made up of completely unconnected words.
"Hey, I hear that when if you can they might see how to make when it gets there it might not go far enough and you'll see, they'll all see. Make sure it's known, if it can't be hollow they'll know to look"
>>768769511
>Are you a furry?
Yes.
>Why the fuck am I asking this question?!
Because you're a furry.
>>768769438
>Nigga
What?
>>768769597
>Should I quit therapy?
If you feel you're not gaining anything from it, you should at least find somewhere else.
It's worthwhile to try different therapies and therapists to find the fit for you.
>>768769720
The only therapist I've seen that I liked told they wouldn't be able to help me. Was a nice thing to hear after getting out of the psych ward for a suicide attempt.
>>768769720
Hey, good to see you hosting a thread again. I hope things stay closer to great rather then horrible. Take care of yourself bud.
>>768769720
>Random nonsense, mostly.
Is it like listening to someone else talk? Like someone in your head?
>>768769707
>How severe is your schizo?
Most days, not too bad. Manageable I would say.
But there are days where I cannot keep my shit together. See everywhere, can't keep my own thoughts together, constantly hearing shit.
>>768769873
>Was a nice thing to hear after getting out of the psych ward for a suicide attempt.
I can only imagine..
>>768769882
>Hey,
Heya.
>good to see you hosting a thread again.
Glad you decided to stop by and say hi.
>Take care of yourself bud.
I'll try.
>>768770053
>Is it like listening to someone else talk? Like someone in your head?
It's like someone else talking in my head and it comes out of my ears.
>>768767049
Does it occasionally make your daily life more interesting?
>>768770778
>Does it occasionally make your daily life more interesting?
I mean, I guess so. I never really know what's going to happen. So in that regard is can.
Bump with my qt dogger.
>>768767049
Hey i know you.
Do you want to learn easy partial fraction decomposition ?
Glad to see you here.
>>768772158
>Hey i know you.
Do you?
>Do you want to learn easy partial fraction decomposition ?
I don't really like fractions, so... not really.
>>768772260
>Glad to see you here.
Why is that?
>>768772409
>I don't really like fractions, so... not really.
rude
>Do you?
rood
>>768772567
>rude
>rood
In all the time I've been doing these threads, I think you're the first person to call me rude.
That's quite the achievement.
>>768772409
Cause it had been a minute. Glad for you to be here
>>768767049
I’ve never commented in your threads before but I like reading them. I feel like I haven’t seen you around in a while. Where have you been?
>>768768169
*Et cetra. Meaning ‘and the remaining’. Two words. 4 years of Latin and mild autism seeing it miss used really grinds my gears
>>768767156
>>768767294
> fapping to actual family members
> not fapping to wincest fantasies about non-family characters
>>768773005
>Cause it had been a minute.
hu.ru?
But, yeah. It has been a little while.
>>768773041
>I feel like I haven’t seen you around in a while.
That's because I've not been around for a few months.
>Where have you been?
Under a rock, the Schizo's favorite hiding place.
>>768773116
>Two words.
I know, anon. My spell checker always says et cetera is wrong and it's just habitual to change it.
Don't sperg too hard.
>>768773214
I beg your pardon?
>>768773116
Is it really being misused, or misspelled?
One of the fun things about language is that sometimes they borrow things from each other and create new words and new spellings of words that aren’t necessarily incorrect just because they look different or serve a slightly different purpose than its original version
>>768773441
By under a rock you mean holed up in your room?
>>768773536
>By under a rock you mean holed up in your room?
For the most part, yes. But, more generally speaking, just away from all people.
>>768773671
I see. People are pretty garbage.
>>768773671
Before being diagnosed, did your family believe you?
>>768773214
>>768773441
Was used more or less correctly just the spelling off. Most people can attribute the lack of knowing two words to the abbreviation being etc.. Cant hate someone for not knowing.
oh hey you're back
>>768773985
Wow wrong posts entirely
>>768773455
>>768773753
>I see. People are pretty garbage.
That's bit rough. They're just animals, with no control over their own actions. Acting on instinct, doing what they can to stay alive. Living in their own bubbles, isolated from the world around them. But, it's not their fault, you know?
It's not their fault they can't see.
>>768773805
>Before being diagnosed, did your family believe you?
I don't tell my family about my problems. Never have, never will.
>>768773985
>Most people can attribute the lack of knowing two words to the abbreviation being etc.
Also that it's derived from a, you know, dead language.
>>768774032
>oh hey you're back
For now.
>>768774160
I do not know what I have, I have always hidden it, in my head I am not alone, we are two, we talk among ourselves, and he takes control and others I take control i dont know if go the hospital or not
>>768773671
Hmm you are quite similar to a guy I know, he is schizophrebic and a furry.
Is that you Victor you faggot?! Wtf are you doing on 4chan I thought you were a Tumblrfag!
>>768774160
Dead spoken yes, but most major western languages derive from and still use parts of it. Spanish really loves their Latin words.
>>768774295
>I do not know what I have
The way you word everything makes me think you're fucking with me. But, I'll suspend my disbelief, and give you the benefit of the doubt.
>i dont know if go the hospital or not
Well, I think you know the answer to that. I cannot tell you what you should, or should not do. That's a choice only you, yourself can make.
The fact that you've identified hospitalization as a potential solution for your problem, means it's something you probably want.
It's not a matter of what you should, or should not do. It's a matter of what you want. Do you want to figure out what's wrong? Do you want to fix it? Do you want to have something that resembles a normal life?
>>768774407
>Is that you Victor you faggot?!
Nope, I'm not Victor.
>>768767049
what is your opinion on The Mighty BBC?
>>768774908
>what is your opinion on The Mighty BBC?
I don't like penises of any shape or color.
>>768774795
>Dead spoken yes
That's all that really matters. If it's no longer spoken, then do its rules really apply any longer?
>>768775365
>I don't like penises of any shape or color.
But what about your dick?
Don't tell me you have no love for your own meat.
>>768775365
Obviously you used part of it in English. Like I said Latin as a whole may not be used but it’s grammer and words from it are still used. All of your parts of speech derive from Latin and it’s grammer so yes. It’s rules do apply still.
>>768775659
>Don't tell me you have no love for your own meat.
Of course, I like my own dick.
how many distinct different hallucinatory entities do you ever see?
do you name them?
if so, what names?
>>768775949
Good. The ones with no love for their peenus don't deserve to have one
>>768767049
Weed and ecchi?
>>768775912
>it’s grammer
>and it’s grammer
>GRAMMER
REEEEEEEEEE
>>768776094
>how many distinct different hallucinatory entities do you ever see?
A lot. More than I can count.
>do you name them?
No
>>768776155
Love thy dick.
>>768776180
>ed and ecchi?
What about it?
Dogger bumpo
>>768774160
I think one of the virtues of being human is that we are self aware enough to try to rise above the daily struggle of survival and pull each other up. Too many people are needlessly selfish and inconsiderate of others, but they could be so much more. I don’t resent anyone for doing what they have to to survive, but I can’t abide people causing harm to others for spurious reasons. So yeah, garbage.
Do you have visual hallucinations or just audio?
>>768775912
This seems a little like cherry picking. Why enforce some Latin rules while ignoring others? English has far fewer conjugations and no declynsions, so it seems clear that prescribing it according to Latin rules wouldn’t really work. Language changes constantly and prescriptivism isn’t going to change that. It seems regressive to religiously hold ourselves to the standards of a language that is no longer spoken. Better yet to embrace the changes that have happened over time and acknowledge that the old rules need not apply.
>>768776370
For some reason I can't explain I know St Peter won't call my name :(
>>768777496
Also I’d like to add that language is a social construct, so if the majority of people decide they want to start writing etcetera instead of et cetra, then that’s simply how it goes.
>>768767049
Do you have delusions of reference? Do you think things speak to you? (I do)
Also Shinobu is best waifu
>>768777443
>Do you have visual hallucinations or just audio?
I do have both.
Primarily auditory though.
Mostly voices.
>>768777105
>but I can’t abide people causing harm to others for spurious reasons
It's only natural to do though. Like I said, we're just animals, and like all animals, we cause harm to those around us. Sometimes for good reason, sometimes for no reason. You wouldn't blame a tiger for killing an intruder, would you?
It's the same premise.
>>768777514
>For some reason I can't explain I know St Peter won't call my name :(
Uh, what?
>>768777917
>Do you have delusions of reference?
I'm not sure what you're asking me here.
>Do you think things speak to you? (I do)
Like inanimate objects?
I don't think they talk to me. But, I talk to them and often project my thoughts onto them as if they were talking to me.
>Also Shinobu is best waifu
>>768778123
>>Do you think things speak to you? (I do)
>Like inanimate objects?
I mean "synchronicity" style. Like, you listen or read something but it seems to have a secondary meaning, like there was a coherent global speech under everything.
Difficult to explain. But I guess that's a no.
>>768778123
>I do have both.
What kinda shit do you see?
How does it affect your everyday life?
>>768778493
>Like, you listen or read something but it seems to have a secondary meaning, like there was a coherent global speech under everything.
Yes, I do that. I'm not full blown Illuminati or anything. But, everything always seems to have a separate hidden meaning.
Primarily people, and their behavior/speech in particular.
There are patterns and hidden meanings in everything.
I had something else I was going to add to that but I forgot.
Oh well.
>>768778655
>What kinda shit do you see?
Mostly shit like seeing things as other things. For example, a person might look like someone else. Or a dog might look like a monster, or a tree might look like a person.
Mostly things of that nature.
I used to see a big shadow figure, but he kinda just went away.
>>768778917
>How does it affect your everyday life?
Quite negatively.
My life mostly consists of doing nothing.
yeah right what'd you get a bong hit transplant?
>>768767049
do you masturbate ?
Illness....guy your possessed. You have demons inhabiting your body. Get right with God.
what about school and education?
i used to hear voices when i was in primary school, and when i feel shitty my head just starts screaming and sometimes there's a green voice (can't explain it but it just feels disgusting to hear in my head) that sometimes talks to me, sound insane but its not.. am i schizophrenic? been wondering about it for ages but I don't want to see a therapist or anything
>>768779208
>yeah right what'd you get a bong hit transplant?
...What?
>>768779247
>do you masturbate ?
Nope, never in my life.
>>768779434
>Get right with God.
God cannot save anyone.
>>768779442
>what about school and education?
Dropped out of highschool, got my GED, went to college for a while and gave up on that because it was a waste of time.
>>768779505
>am i schizophrenic?
I dunno, Anon. I'm not a doctor.
>been wondering about it for ages but I don't want to see a therapist or anything
If you really want to find out, that's your best bet.
>>768779505
Better get it checked out and under control
What medication are you on, do you find it works and do you like taking meds?
>>768780079
Big trust issues, don't want to tell someone all the shit in my head. the idea of a therapist is fucked up anyway, figured i'd just try and work it out on my own
>>768780338
If you get a good one, they can be a big help. I've been seeing one for a couple years now and he's a /b/ro. I avoided it thinking I'd be with some old, stuffy doctor staring down his nose at me, but my therapist a cool dude.
>>768780116
>What medication are you on
None, I cannot stand taking any sort of medication at all.
Not even something simple like Tylenol.
>>768780684
Not even fun stuff like Oxy?
>>768780512
I get that there are some good ones but what if you say something that they don't agree with and they completely destroy your life because they know everything about you? Or you say something and you see that they pity you or some shit every time you look at them? sorry for saying this shit anon but this is the first time I've talked about it
>>768780833
>Not even fun stuff like Oxy?
Nope.
The only drugs I do is weed.
>>768778123
>You wouldn't blame a tiger for killing an intruder, would you?
It's the same premise.
No, I would not blame a tiger for that, for two reasons.
1. A tiger does not possess the same level of intelligence and self awareness as humans. I wouldn’t begrudge it its instinct to attack an unknown intruder.
2. I think this may also fall under survival, since those tigers that don’t attack strange things would probably die
I don’t think it necessarily follow that it is the same premise, since we have plenty of evidence that a person’s ability to lash out at others isn’t directly related to their survival. But I take your premise that we’re just animals doing what animals do. And we must be doing some things right to have made it this far. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to believe that a primarily social species can’t figure out how to not be dicks to each other at some point.
.
>>768780978
OP I'm glad you're here as in I'm glad you're OK and haven't gone stupid crazy to the point of kys or anything.
>>768767049
hey bud, how's life?
way too lazy to read everything to search for my question, sorry if someone already asked.
Does it impairs your ability to concentrate, or does concentrating helps to ignore it?
How's it when watching anime, playing vidyas, shooting or hobbies in general?
Also Shinobu best grill.
Have a nice one mate.
>>768781094
>since we have plenty of evidence that a person’s ability to lash out at others isn’t directly related to their survival.
It's not about survival, at least not in its entirety. It's about emotion, instinct and, actions.
What you see as "someone being a dick" is just them acting on those cores.
The primary thing is most actions are fulled by emotion, not by logic. Emotion trumps logic, it's built into us it's an evolutionary mechanism. Logic is just something we taught ourselves to view the world around us.
People don't act on logic. They feel things, those feelings trigger an instinctual action, whether it be violence, cowering, pissing themselves, crying or what have you. The point is how they got to the conclusion that the action was the correct choice. Which is the same mechanism that a tiger uses to kill the intruder.
See intruder
Emotional response
Instinctive decision to act
Action.
These actions cannot be seen as good or bad. They are neutral actions. Something the creature (rarely) has control over.
It's easy to sit back and observe the situation and say "They are a bad person for doing that." But that same exact bad action is inside of you.
>>768780684
>cannot stand
define cannot stand, as in someone who cannot stand tomatoes or as in someone who cannot stand to alter their body chemistry
>>768782210
>too lazy to read thead
>too stupid to ctrl+f
cut or uncut?
Could you describe your prodromal phase in a spooky amount of detail? Currently concerned about my own mental health.
>>768779167
Anon you're seeing the world hidden within our own reality. Don't let anyone tell you differently
>>768782535
YOU THINK YOU"RE GETTING A RASH? OH NOES
>>768779167
>My life mostly consists of doing nothing.
living the dream anon
>>768782180
>OP I'm glad you're here as in I'm glad you're OK and haven't gone stupid crazy to the point of kys or anything.
Thanks, anon. Hope you're hanging in there yourself.
>>768782210
>hey bud, how's life?
Pretty meh.
>way too lazy to read everything to search for my question, sorry if someone already asked.
Don't worry about it, friend. We're all a bunch of lazy slackers here anyway.
>Does it impairs your ability to concentrate,
It does impair concentration, primarily regarding my own thoughts.
>or does concentrating helps to ignore it?
If I can find something tangible and physical to concentrate on it helps drastically.
>How's it when watching anime, playing vidyas, shooting or hobbies in general?
Generally it doesn't affect me too much when I'm doing stuff like that. As, I'm focused on whatever I'm doing. Unless I'm having a really bad day/week/month.
>>768782279
>define cannot stand
Cannot stand, as in I have taken one Tylenol pill in the past 10 years. And I basically live in constant pain.
The only reason I took that pill was because on the pain scale I was at a 10/10.
Does that help?
>>768782508
>cut or uncut?
I'm assuming you're referring to myself?
Cut.
>>768779843
>Nope, never in my life.
>anon is full blown schitzo
>lives life with voices and shit looking like monsters and all kinds of awful things
>shuts down
>shuts away from world
>crazy ramps up
>goes full blown insane
>danger to self and others
>walks fine line
>this goes on for 30 years
>then one day
>anon jacks off for the first time
>cummies
>all the sudden the world is normal and the voices are gone
Ever tried meditating?
>>768782994
>Does that help?
no. Is it the pill itself or the idea of the medicine doing something to you?
like some people could swallow tylenol-shaped candy all day but wouldn't drink wine for fear of altering their reality even for a moment
and other people would smoke meth or inject marijuanas but not be able to stand to swallow an aspirin
>>768767049
you know, some schizos can focus thier mind, and make the things they see into any shape they want. mostly only the more aware ones can manage it.
>>768782994
>playing vidyas, shooting or hobbies in general?
literally read this as "or shooting hobos in general?"
I've been watching too much door monster
>>768783448
>mostly only the more aware ones can manage it.
or the more aware ones could not do it well enough to get out of their own head
>>768783777
all i can say is, nice trips
I had a schizo gf once.
it was fun watching her crash and burn.
i left her shortly afterwards.
she dug deep into drugs for 10 yrs, then had a few babies. still nuts tho.
apparently having kids made it worse. shes only 34.
>>768767864
>Around 20
What triggered it?
>>768782535
>Could you describe your prodromal phase in a spooky amount of detail?
Interesting that you ask that, as I'm actually in my prodromal phase as we speak. [spoiler]Which is why I'm here.[/spoiler]
It started about two days ago. The first symptom is almost always insomnia, followed by night terrors, waking up drenched in sweat.
Then I start to feel heavy, like everything around me is just weighing on my very existence. I start losing interest in everything I'm doing. If I've made any plans I drop them, stop talking to my friends. Then I start having getting very manic. Just happy about everything for no reason. Feeling on top of the world.
Then my cognitive abilities start fading, I can't understand what people are trying to say. I can't make my own thoughts into words and I struggle to grasp even simple concepts. Then I start to get extremely depressed. That's usually when the hallucinations start to get bad. Starts of with ringing in my ears, turns into voices talking, then I start talking back. Then I start to see people to talk to then at that point I'm basically full-blown psychotic.
I'm sure I missed something, but that's pretty much how it goes.
>>768783920
ITT shit that never happened
>>768784069
honestly, youde be surprised. nothing in that paragraph isnt unreasonable.
It did happen, thats the short of it, anyways.
>>768784049
Sounds familiar. The nuthouse said I was bipolar1. Only way to identify schizophrenia is a MRI right?
>>768784435
symptoms overlap
Cure my depression
>>768782708
>Anon you're seeing the world hidden within our own reality.
People keep saying that.
>>768782885
>living the dream anon
The dream. More like the nightmare you cannot wake up from.
>>768783109
>Nope, never in my life.
Hopefully, you didn't take that seriously.
>all the sudden the world is normal and the voices are gone
Actually made me laugh, anon.
>>768783300
>Ever tried meditating?
Yes, I used to meditate a lot. It's not something I can really do reliably anymore.
>>768783380
>Is it the pill itself or the idea of the medicine doing something to you?
I can tell you, it's not an issue with the physical pill. It's not the idea of altering my chemistry either. As, I've said I smoke weed.
I don't really know how to explain it. Maybe I'm afraid of dependency, maybe I'm afraid of actually getting better. I don't really know.
>>768783448
>you know, some schizos can focus thier mind, and make the things they see into any shape they want
Yes, I also have the ability to do this.
>>768783457
>or shooting hobos in general?
>MFW
Was 9/11 an inside job?
Are the Bushes and the Saudis really related?
Hey Schiz anon. Not much I can really say, but I used to catch your threads.
>>768784564
>used to meditate alot
Music with lyrics or they'll never shut the fuck up.
>>768783777
>apparently having kids made it worse.
Kids add stress.
Stress + Schizo is a bad mix.
>>768784002
>What triggered it?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Isolation? Drugs? Just bad luck?
>>768784435
>Sounds familiar.
That's because Bipolar is a psychotic disorder. There's a lot of overlap with all the psychotic disorders.
>Only way to identify schizophrenia is a MRI right?
No, it's probably the most "scientifically reliable" though.
>>768784522
>Cure my depression
Bam, your depression is cured.
>>768784879
>Guess
I mean other than coming of age. It kicks in around this time for most of us. I was just wondering if you had an event or if it just occurred naturally. If it did, was it a slow onset or did it totally blindside you?
aye, lazy fuck here yet again with another question.
how's it been with friends? had that one friend of which you think his presence is helping you out or even making it worse?
How's it when you are smashed af, do they scream in russian?
Also, recommend an anime, i'm bored af.
Ay look who I found hanging around.
Good afternoon/evening Nobu, hope everything is alright.
>>768784584
>Was 9/11 an inside job?
Everything is an inside job. It's just a matter of which "inside" you're referring to.
Presumably, you're referring to whether or not 9-11 was coordinated by the US government.
To which, I would say, I don't really care either way.
>Are the Bushes and the Saudis really related?
Probably not.
>>768784742
>Music with lyrics or they'll never shut the fuck up.
The voices aren't the problem. I just can't clear my head. I cannot reach the state of "zen", or emptiness.
>>768784739
>Hey Schiz anon.
Hello, anon.
>Not much I can really say
That's fine.
>>768785072
>I was just wondering if you had an event
Not that I am aware of.
>or if it just occurred naturally.
That is the way it seems, yes.
>If it did, was it a slow onset or did it totally blindside you?
It started off pretty slowly stuff just felt off then it just hit me like a train.
>>768785496
>I cannot reach the state of "zen", or emptiness.
Ugh, let me know when you figure that one out. Just can't seem to shut it off like others do.
>hit me like a train
Was it prodromal for a few months? a few years? Are you responding to treatment? What is treatment anyway? Does the therapist believe you?
>>768785334
>how's it been with friends?
Nothing's really changed with my friends. I've always been distant with them.
>had that one friend of which you think his presence is helping you out or even making it worse?
Yes, I do have a friend like that. When she's around, it just makes everything so much more peaceful. Like a cool breeze on a hot day.
>How's it when you are smashed af, do they scream in russian?
No, they just talk really loud.
>Also, recommend an anime, i'm bored af.
I haven't really watched any anime in a long ass time. So I can't really recommend anything.
>>768785446
>Ay look who I found hanging around.
Look who the cat dragged in.
>hope everything is alright.
Could be better. How's it with you?
Do you also have any problems with desperately wanting to be someone or something you're not
>>768782243
So people can never be held accountable for their actions? That’s pretty bleak. And I’m the one who started by saying humans are garbage
Did you try asking our LORD and SAVIOUR Mohammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmad (peace and blessings be upon him) to cure you?
It's been scientifically proven that schizophrenia is caused by demons. Did you try asking Allah (the greatest) for cure?
Are we real today?
>>768785758
>Ugh, let me know when you figure that one out.
Heh, I used to know how. But if I ever figure it out again, you'll be the first I tell, anon.
>Was it prodromal for a few months?
It was about a month, maybe a bit less.
>Are you responding to treatment?
I'm not in any treatment, and I haven't been for quite some time.
>>768786001
>Do you also have any problems with desperately wanting to be someone or something you're not
Heh..
>>768786133
>So people can never be held accountable for their actions?
Of course, they can be held accountable. They made the choice. Afterall, we have free will.
We are conscious beings we have the option to override our emotions.
But, if someone fails to do so, does that make them a garbage person?
>>768786288
>Did you try asking our LORD and SAVIOUR Mohammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmad
No, I don't speak sandnigger.
>>768786760
>quite some time
Were you responding? What were they doing? Did they believe you? Why did you leave?
I just started. I don't think she likes me. I don't like her. That's for damn sure.
>>768786369
>Are we real today?
No, only yesterday.
>>768786760
>>768786133
>We are conscious beings we have the option to override our emotions.
I misspoke.
What I meant to say is: We have the option to override our instinct. Not emotion.
But, as I said. Emotion is a more powerful force than logic, though. Which leads to most people failing to do so.
>>768786760
>No, I don't speak sandnigger.
You I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHcqjcPZ1M
>>768767049
Ever get out of gold? We used to play league together last year :)
>>768786967
we'll try again tomorrow. always a brand new day.
I think nigger music makes people schizophrenic. They put demons in death metal too.
>>768786906
>Were you responding?
Not really. It was cognitive behavioral therapy to cope with what was happening. I found that most of what was discussed was stuff I already knew.
>I just started
Hopefully, it helps.
>I don't like her. That's for damn sure.
Why not find someone else?
>>768787144
>You I like.
Thanks, anon. I'm pretty great.
>>768787178
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvHcqjcPZ1M
Very comfy.
>>768787184
>Ever get out of gold?
I just got back to gold. :^)
>We used to play league together last year :)
Is that you, Hawaii?
>>768787386
>Someone else?
I'm not schizophrenic. I'm schizoid. If I liked her, I'd ingratiate and mirror to get her to like me. I hope this makes sense.
>>768787386
>Hawaii
Yup that's me haven't played league in forever or any kind of game really. How've you been holding up dude? Find a new girl? I'm surprised you remember me tbh
>>768767156
Why, does this cause schizophrenia?
>>768784049
I have everything there, except voices (unless I'm high). Plus, I haven't felt 'on top of the world' in over a year, and it was a rough episode. I literally thought I was god, or the god above god, so to speak. That's a whole other thing. I'm guessing I'm not schizo?
>>768786760
>But, if someone fails to do so, does that make them a garbage person?
If it causes unnecessary harm to another person or people, knowingly, willfully, then yeah, I’d say so. Frankly, my initial comment was intended to be intentionally hyperbolic. I do believe that people are generally deserving of forgiveness and redemption for bad things they do. But if we’re talking in the grand scheme of things, my impression is that humanity causes more suffering than it is worth. So my emotional, animal reaction is to call them all garbage.
>>768787322
>we'll try again tomorrow. always a brand new day.
One day, anon. One day.
>>768787363
>I think nigger music makes people schizophrenic.
Honestly, it probably does.
All that talk about drugs and money is sure to take its toll on someone psyche.
>>768787613
>I hope this makes sense.
Ah, yes. I understand.
I just figured having someone you at least don't dislike would be beneficial.
>>768787677
>Yup that's me
Damn, I thought you were perma v& or was that when you were still in Hawaii?
>How've you been holding up dude?
I've been better. How's shit with you?
>Find a new girl?
Nah, I've not really been looking. I still talk to the same girl most of the time.
>I'm surprised you remember me tbh
If there's one trend among my threads it's I don't forget people easily.
You should hit me up on discord Laxeris#4748
(anyone else can add me too if they feel like it)
>>768788128
>I just figured having someone you at least don't dislike would be beneficial.
I thought it would be too. But then he started mirroring me within 6-8 minutes of meeting him and I realized it was going to be too easy to start lying again. If it was a conscious effort to relate, then he assumes I'm an idiot. If it was unconscious, it'd be like shooting fish in a barrel. She treats me like an idiot too but at least she's asking the right questions. For now.
>>768787857
>Why, does this cause schizophrenia?
Probably anon. If you've been doing it, get yourself checked out.
>>768787914
>I'm guessing I'm not schizo?
I dunno, anon. I'm not qualified to make such a call.
>>768788040
>If it causes unnecessary harm to another person or people, knowingly, willfully, then yeah, I’d say so.
Then doesn't that make every person garbage?
Everyone, at some point in their life, has caused unjust harm to someone else.
If everyone does it, is there even a point to define what is normal?
If everyone is garbage for that reason, doesn't that nullify the meaning of being garbage?
As someone who doesn't believe in "good" or "bad" your emotional argument for logical application of restraint to emotional action for the "good" of "people" doesn't make much sense.
That's a pretty convoluted way of wording that, but I can't change that.
>>768768452
jo, idc when you actually had your first opening
why dont you just listen to your own thoughts and value them in no and yes. then just repeat that for some time, then listen closely and try to bring them into real world. your others will gain piece and you can find your inner self
fuck yall
>>768767049
do you feel crazy?
>>768768452
>why would i do that
Hello sir
>>768788384
>But then he started mirroring me within 6-8 minutes of meeting him
I noticed you disliked your female therapist but liked your male therapist.
Presumably, you're attracted to men. I'm guessing you're also male. Did a woman do something to you?
Maybe I'm just crazy and reading too deep. But that's what I do.
>>768789022
>why dont you just listen to your own thoughts and value them in no and yes
That's easier said than done. Try watching a tv show and listening to the stuff that's said whilst you're in the middle of a party of 15 people and music blaring.
That's what it's like.
>>768789268
>do you feel crazy?
Sometimes.
>>768788040
>forgiveness and redemption for bad things they do
>>768789695
>But that's what I do.
Same. I might've misworded it. I'm a female, and my mom etc etc. You'll forgive me if going into detail is a bit inappropriate to be perfectly frank.
>>768789685
>Hello sir
>sir
I think you just refuted your own post.
Thanks for playing.
>>768789636
why
>>768789695
i feel like this too :)
1. Why do you do these Q&A s, does it help ?
2. Ever heard of "Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice", is it any good ?
>>768788996
I never said I don’t believe in good or bad. Like I said, my initial comment was purposefully hyperbolic, and like I also said I think people on an individual basis are usually deserving of forgiveness and non-garbage status. I don’t think that throwing out phrases like “people are garbage” and then choosing to not apply that phrase to everyone is any less logical than excusing people’s actions because they’re animals while maintaining that people may be held accountable for acting like them
Damn Schizofag i was missing you!
Take this shinobu
>>768789949
Oh. You are a dude. Sorry, fuck.
Got lewds of character?
>>768789923
>Same.
You wouldn't happen to have discord, would you? You seem fairly relatable. If you want someone to talk about crazy shit with hit me up. Laxeris#4748
>and my mom etc etc.
I get you.
>>768790026
>i feel like this too :)
I think we all do, anon.
>>768790338
>fight or flight
Animal response. Can you fault someone for shooting their captors in the head?
>crashing your car into mine out of spite
A persons action to be held accountable.
I don't fault someone for murder in the right circumstance, yet I fault someone for their personal choice to be a dick.
>>768779843
He can save you. But you have to be willing. Denying Him is a foolish way to go especially considering your problem.
>>768790089
>1. Why do you do these Q&A s, does it help ?
I do it because everything is dull. Normally I'd be playing vidya but I just can't. So I do this instead.
>2. Ever heard of "Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice", is it any good ?
I've heard of it. A few anons here have recommended me it. But I've never played it on account of being poor.
>>768790338
>I never said I don’t believe in good or bad.
Oh, no, Anon. I'm the person who doesn't believe in good or bad.
Sorry if I misrepresented what I was trying to say.
>Like I said, my initial comment was purposefully hyperbolic
Yes, I understand that. Even if it's hyperbolic, that doesn't mean you don't believe it. It's a core value of yours that you blow up to an extreme proportion to get your point across (Which I'm guessing you do a lot, and more often than not backlashes on you. Which is why you're 'defensive' for lack of a better term, about it being hyperbolic.)
Which I understand, I don't agree with your reasoning. Primarily because it's a stance you've chosen fueled by emotion.
Everyone is accountable for what they do. Even a tiger.
>>768790554
>Damn Schizofag i was missing you!
Hello, friend.
>>768790563
>Got lewds of character?
>>768790719
Then we’re in agreeance on that. As I said many times, I fault people for causing unnecessary suffering on purpose. I never said I fault people for doing things they literally need to survive or for having reflexes in life-or-death situations. Your initial response was to invoke the animal argument, so my initial impression was that you had this nihilistic view that people shouldn’t be held accountable for anything because we’re all just animals. Perhaps you had the impression that I thought that causing harm to others can never be justified?
>>768791652
Thank you friend
The Kaiser will hear of your kindness
>>768790979
>He can save you.
No one can save someone else.
The only savior for you, is you.
>>768767049
ever consider that the voices you hear are paranormal/ghosts/spirits/etc?
>>768791652
>Which I understand, I don't agree with your reasoning. Primarily because it's a stance you've chosen fueled by emotion.
Sure, I think that’s true. Forgive me, but I’m starting to feel like you’ve taken contradictory stances through this discussion. At one point you seem almost dismissive of individual will, saying we’re all just animals. At another, you state that some people should be held accountable for their actions. Do you mean the first in a larger, spiritual sense as in there’s no greatness being holding us accountable for our actions and the second in a social sense, as in societies should hold its members accountable for transgressions that harm the community, not necessarily because actions are inherently good or bad?
>>768767049
hi man. i just dropped by to say hi, cause i saw you in the catalog. must have been.. four months since i last found your threads. you are appretiated.
Do you take any medication for it or do you just try and get through it without it?
Ever find yourself day dreaming and talking as if you were in that fantasy?
>>768792270
>ever consider that the voices you hear are paranormal/ghosts/spirits/etc?
No. I don't think I believe in such things.
>>768792313
>but I’m starting to feel like you’ve taken contradictory stances through this discussion.
>A Schizophrenic
>Holding contradictory beliefs
You do know where you're at right anon? :^)
>At one point you seem almost dismissive of individual will
Not quite. We have the will to make choices. But will comes from logic, not emotion. Will comes from being able to stop and think.
Thinking comes after emotion.
Emotion is at our core programmed into our brains by evolution in order to survive.
In order to use logic, you must be able to override the emotional action. I.E "being a dick".
At the core, we're not meant to override the emotional response. So it's extremely difficult to do. So when someone fails to do so and acts on an emotional impulse, it does not make them a "bad" person. Is all I'm saying.
They still chose to do it, and they should be held accountable for their actions. Does that mean they should be punished? That isn't for me to decide. That is for people who believe in good or bad. Which I don't.
All I'm saying is; that acting on what we're programmed to act on does not make someone a "dick". Because, if that is the case then everyone is a dick, and since there are zero people who aren't dicks. I.E there are no "good" people, no one can be a dick.
>>768792490
>hi man
Hey friend.
>must have been.. four months since i last found your threads.
That's about right.
>>768792769
>Do you take any medication for it or do you just try and get through it without it?
I just get through it myself.
>>768792985
>Ever find yourself day dreaming and talking as if you were in that fantasy?
Daily.
>>768793755
Oh fuck i do that daydreaming shit too
>>768794334
>Oh fuck i do that daydreaming shit too
It's a pretty common thing I think.
>>768794672
My father is schizo
>>768794809
Keep an eye on it. That's how it happened with me.
>>768794888
I’ll blow my brains out
>>768794888
Thanks senpai. I’ll keep an eye on it and keep my .357 loaded
>>768793670
Haha no, I seem to have gotten lost and wound up on 4chan
>All I'm saying is; that acting on what we're programmed to act on does not make someone a "dick". Because, if that is the case then everyone is a dick, and since there are zero people who aren't dicks. I.E there are no "good" people, no one can be a dick.
I see. I think I understand your point of view and even find some convincing nuggets in there. However, it seems we are at an impasse where it comes to concepts of gold and bad. I agree that concepts of good and bad come from a primarily emotional place but I think the ongoing conversation over morals is an important component to any developing society; our emotional nature defines us and is even a virtue at times. You’re drawing me into a box with the dick thing. I never said that anyone who acts “emotionally” from time to time are automatically dicks. I don’t think you have to be acting from an emotional place to intentionally do harm to someone, which is what you seem to suggest. It is the blatant disregard for the well-being of others that I take issue with, and people do this in all sorts of ways, in all sorts of mental states, not necessarily while they’re emotionally hopped up. Those people are garbage. And maybe it’s a sliding scale. Maybe your analysis of my stance is correct and everyone would be garbage to varying degrees. I’m ok with that.
>>768790717
>schizoid anon
If it makes sense, I'm going to save your name for later. But right now I dont think I'm in a good state of mind to socialize. Or try to. But I will hang onto your name.
>>768792313
>>768793670
To put what I'm saying in a slightly more tangible way, I'll use a nonsensical metaphor.
Imagine you're a fish. With the everyone who is alive is also a fish. So humans are just fishes now. We all live in the ocean, as fishes do.
Now, we'll say that your fish papa taught you that water is cold. All fish believe this. You don't know what hot is, but you know that cold is the feeling you get when water touches your little fish butt.
Now let's zoom out a little bit. From here we can see the water is actually not cold. We'll say for the sake of this explanation it's 80degrees f.
How is the fish to determine whether the water is cold, or hot whilst being inside the water? All the information it has is what the other fish told it.
The same premise applies here in our real world example. How can you, or I even, determine what "good" is whilst we are inside what is happening. We operate by the same exact mechanism. We cannot leave our brains and view the actions of others through truly unbias, unemotional eyes.
Good or bad can only exist to a being who is not bound by the natural upbringing of being born on this planet.
That's where "morality" comes in. Morality was created by "god", a being outside our plane of existence unbound by the rules of our emotions. He can decide what is good or bad, because he is not inside the water. Now, of course, I don't believe in that god. But it helps to solidify what I'm trying to say.
Does this help?
>>768795851
Yes, I got all that from the rest of what you had to say. Thanks for clarifying though. I don’t believe in a god either, so morality must be manmade. It’s not perfect but I think it is an important tool for the continuation of a harmonious society.
>>768794809
>My father is schizo
It was nice knowing you, anon.
>>768795623
>If it makes sense
I try to make sense, sometimes it takes me a while though.
>But right now I dont think I'm in a good state of mind to socialize.
But, anon. You're socializing with me right now.
In all seriousness though, I totally get that. But, the offer will always stand. I'll probably make another thread tomorrow around the same time if you want to stop in and chit chat and take your mind off everything.
>>768796260
I might take you up on that. Thank you for listening. Somehow, its easier to talk about when you're anonymous. I'm not sure why.
>>768795242
>I think the ongoing conversation over morals is an important component to any developing society
I would agree. Societies need rules in order to thrive. Lest they wish to devolve in to chaos.
I happen to be of the belief that society isn't required and thus good and bad are not required.
>I never said that anyone who acts “emotionally” from time to time are automatically dicks.
I know, I didn't intent to say that you did. Sometimes my hyperboles go a little too far.
>which is what you seem to suggest.
Yes, you're right there. If someone is doing that is at the expense of someone else, they're doing it for an emotional reason.
Be it that they're angry at the person and exacting revenge.
Or that bringing pain to other's brings them joy. Whatever the case may be, they're getting emotional relief from it, or the emotion caused their action.
>>768796437
>I might take you up on that.
I hope to see you around.
>Thank you for listening.
You're welcome, glad I could be of assistance. Even if only in a minor way.
>I'm not sure why.
I can relate to that.
.
>>768796932
Interesting viewpoints. I appreciate your willingness to engage me without us devolving into personal attacks, etc. that seem all too common on this board. Thanks for the chat.
>>768769542
I'm white and haven't done cocaine.
>>768796932
Also to the societies part (lol thought I was done) I would contest that humanity would be impossible without society. Our intense and complex organization is precisely what has helped us to thrive in a world where everything is either stronger or faster than us. Organization has helped us best our surroundings and accomplish things that are impossible for other species as they currently exist.
>>768797774
>He didn't laugh at my fish butt joke
Yeah, fuck you.
>I appreciate your willingness to engage me without us devolving into personal attacks, etc.
No problem, anon. It's always nice to have a genuine conversation with someone. Even if we aren't in agreeance.
>I would contest that humanity would be impossible without society.
Sure, small-scale society. Like tribal shit. But such small-scale society does not require morality.
But, a large-scale society that we see today is completely unnecessary.
We've always had societies. Same with monkies.
>>768798399
The fish butt thing was amusing, but not ha-ha funny. I appreciate the effort to lighten the mood though.
I’ll concede that large scale societies are necessary, but I don’t think the smallness of a society precludes it from having any morals. Tribes still have to regulate the behavior of its members in order to maintain unity and harmony, ie rules and moral codes. If society truly isn’t necessary, then neither are morals. But I remain convinced that society is of the utmost importance to human survival. No matter how small the society, an understanding of ground rules is essential. Seems we’ll be here all night if one of us doesn’t break off. And I’m feeling like some PUBG. Night schizanon, good to have you back.
>>768767049
Thanks Anon! It was a pleasure to read you, hopefully not for the last time. All the best for the time to come and never forget, there'll always be an afterwards.
I love and support you, you will get through this.
>>768798936
>Tribes still have to regulate the behavior of its members in order to maintain
Yes, obviously. But how they regulate behavior is vastly different.
Tribes don't need morals. They have nature. If you fuck up and cause damage to the tribe you endanger everyone. A weak tribe is a dead tribe. No morals required, just the cold hard truth. No ambiguity.
In a large-scale society, it doesn't work like that. If someone fucks up and does damage to the society and say, kills 150 people. What is really lost? The society doesn't lose anything of real value. There are millions more.
That's where morals come in. To dissuade that behavior society brands you as a "bad" person. Bad people get cast from society, if you're not in society you die.
>>768799803
>Thanks Anon!
You're welcome.
>It was a pleasure to read you
Glad you enjoyed yourself.
>hopefully not for the last time.
The same goes for you. You know how to find me.
>>768799955
>I love and support you, you will get through this.
Thanks anon.
Do you sometimes image your dad raping you or does it happen so often you don't even need to hallucinate it?
do you sometimes see any order or sense in your visions? like it was some kind of special skill that enables you to see the hidden aspects of world and life? like some artistic power to see different? have u ever realised that your hallutinations may have deeper meaning?
>>768800565
>Do you sometimes image your dad raping you
No, I've never met my dad.
>>768800638
>do you sometimes see any order or sense in your visions?
I see order in everything, anon. I guess you could call it a special skill.
>have u ever realised that your hallutinations may have deeper meaning?
Probably, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
