How do you feel about feminism?
>>768691602
no opinion one way or the other
>>768691602
Leaning weakly in favour of it, but don't know enough to have a strong opinion.
Can you like not
Main problem with some feminists I have is they only want to either add a few women into seats of power or replace as many men as possible. I just don't think this will do much in the end, and that disassembling the structure of power is the best course of action.
>>768691602
It's loosely veiled Marxism and there is no greater cancer than Marxism.
>>768693009
>>768693039
Its more anti-men than pro-women. It hates women if they're not far-left.
>>768693108
The prominent manifestation of feminism in the West is , oddly enough, allied with Islam.
>>768691602
feminism is why niggers get free money every month: too many fucking women voting
men need to take the usa back - if we do we can end welfare, medicare, social security, and keep more of our money and get the niggers back to work in the fields too
>>768693228
But that is because the Marxist feminism is more about Marxism than anything and Marxism is about undermining anything and everything that constitutes as foundational to Western civilization. In the case of feminism, it is men, specifically cis white males.
>>768693333
Quads confirm. Self-checked.
>1/4 homeless people are women. That's an outrage that needs to be corrected!
>3/4 homeless people are men. Who cares? Its men.
>>768693420
Because its goal is to ripple the West, it seeks to attack all institutions of masculinity to render the West weak for (formerly) Soviet invasion. Now its the EU and the Islamic wave.
>>768691602
As long as they aren't the 3rd wave misandrists then I have no problem with them. I don't believe I am better than anyone else for something I was born as so I would expect the same courtesy
>>768693542
>>768693333
>>768693009
Why does no one here actually understand what Marxism is? And just think that when the government does something its socialist, and the more the government does the socialistier it is?
>>768693516
>pic related
It also rejects biological reality and thus, objectivity.
>>768693571
You don't believe that Marxism is at the core of modern feminism?
>>768693615
>>768693741
>>768693420
open your eyes...how many woman you identify as homeless???
its called flat prostution...pickup a random men and offers sex for a bed and shower or other stuff
>>768693773
Undermine the family just as Marx wanted.
>>768693703
Most modern feminism, or at least what gets posted here, is not in anyway related to Marx. Its based on moral relativism and post modernism, which disagrees with Marx's theory of Material Dialectics. That is the founding principle of Marxism.
>>768693571
with communism, what happens when you want to fix something around your house?
Like, you can't go buy supplies to do it yourself, so you get the state to fix it, and it costs a fuck load of money and you probably have to wait months to get it done, and all these other bastards don't look after their shit because it was free and they just abuse everything as if it was hire equipment
>>768693916
Explain
>>768693615
That can't be because of women. They don't change the whole program when women can't do it, they just give women lesser requirements
>>768693773
Master B8er
Source? or is it fake news?
>>768693787
Women not wanting to tell the world about their problems? Thats a first.
That like every other cause, gets diminished by the trolling minority that is heard most loudly.
>>768693108
Ugh.. I'm a male who's not at all engaged in the debate, and even I see that this is just a few extremists. People like you not understanding the difference between the loud extremists and the comparatively silent majority is why people are getting more extreme on the internet. On the extremist feminist forums they are taking some bullshit one anti-feminist said and turning it to "all men are cruel" or something. Watch CGP grey's video on ideas on the internet on youtube and try being a bit less detestable in the future.
>>768693917
>>768693108
Fuck, wrong guy, you had the okay pic. But it kind of applies to you as well.
It's needed.
Oppressed marginalized groups don't deserve to suffer because they weren't lucky enough to be born a certain way.
Also, if we can be kinder to eachother we should be and create a better world, we should
>>768694080
>not engaged
I can tell.
>few extremists
Sorry, but its an infestation in Europe. Sweden's ruling party is a feminist party. Its weaker in America but it thrives through the Democrats and on college campuses.
>>768691602
I've never met a women that didn't need a man's help
>>768693039
A real feminist wouldn't wear a shirt like this and premote body shaming to any body types.
Feminism is a mental illness. The pics only get worse from here.
>>768693571
>everybody's chill
My side's have achieved liftoff
>>768694307
>no true scotsman
>>768694333
You gag, you lose starts now.
>>768694105
This study was disputed due to some claimed "errors in research." Just pointing it out before you get all conspiratory.
>>768694404
>>768693923
In communism, you get the community to help you if you need the help or can't do it by yourself.
And communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society. You are thinking of state socialism, which is when a government is formed to transition society into communism from capitalism.
>>768693964
So a lot of 3rd wave femminist disagree with stuff like binary systems, the idea of a large scale theory explaining society, or and absolute moral system. All of those are important to Marxism. Hell, most of them are liberal capitalists.
>>768694354
Well one of the main reasons people fight will be removed.
>>768694417
Source
Everything that the left doesn't like it rules out as "disputable" or "controversial".
>>768694262
I'm Norwegian. All the movement wants is equality between the genders, which may or may not be a problem anymore. I suspect women are still largely being more objectified than men, and viewed as inferiors in informal settings.
>>768691602
Buncha first world ignorant brats that don’t know how easy they have compared to the rest of the world
>>768694455
>>768694262
What unjust feminist politics does the Swedish ruling party push?
>>768694541
Equality is the last thing they want. Pay attention.
>>768694404
>>768694455
"Feminemsms is disgusting !"
I've seen people on this website fill up literal bottles of piss and cum and leave my little pony toys in them.
You MRAs will share images of girls you fancy and encourage people to jizz over them.
Don't act like feminism is somehow worse.
>>768694522
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/314/5804/1365.2
This was purely based on the was the research was conducted as far as I could tell from the little I read about it.
>>768694641
Just because you're reading more of the extremists doesn't make them a bigger share of the feminists. You just want to get angry.
>>768694615
I have a Sweden folder. Dont make this into a Sweden thread.
>>768694687
but they do that BECAUSE it's gross. It's meant to be a joke. Those feminists are serious
>>768694809
Found the cuck
>>768694835
How is this an argument for extreme feminism in Sweden?
>>768694687
>everyone who disagrees with my period pancakes is an MRA
>>768694562
This
>>768694888
Nice trips, but sadly not trips of truth. I'm not a cuck.
>>768691602
Idgaf - as long as women keep making a big deal about it it means men are still #1
>>768691602
I dont
>>768694940
Its not. If anything it reveals the agency of the feminist party and the priorities it holds. Its the victim hierarchy. Muslims outpace women. Sweden now enjoys the most rapes in Europe do the the policies of its feminist government.
Feminism is the patriarchy.
>>768695100
They just imported a bunch of foreigners they couldn't afford to integrate. It's not like middle easterns have some gene making them rape, as evidenced through adoptions and fully integrated families.
>>768691602
I feel that when reading the majority of comments in this thread feminism is still important to have.
>>768694476
>So a lot of 3rd wave femminist disagree with stuff like binary systems
How
>the idea of a large scale theory explaining society
I think they are very outspoken on what they bekieve to be the central problem in society.
>or and absolute moral system.
False. Marxism rejects religion and thus must accept that morality is inherently subjective.
>Hell, most of them are liberal capitalists.
Ha
>>768691602
Feminism is a symptom: it's the death knell of western civilization.
This is the same disease that befell Ancient Rome before the barbarians arrived. The Romans didn't succumb to the barbarians, they welcomed them with open arms.
>>768695295
You're right. There are no biological/genetic differences between distinct groups of people.
>>768694969
You keep telling yourself.
I hope you remember my trips when later on you find out your wife has been fucking a real man
>>768694080
The guy cried in front of a camera the day after the landing. Do you think it was the work of a tiny and vocal minority?
>>768694596
>>768695481
If you can find a single source saying otherwise, like a study of adopted children from certain countries being more likely to rape, I'm happy to change my views. It just would seem very odd to me.
>>768695355
god put her ass on backwards
>>768695553
>>768695513
Yeah
>>768695486
I don't have a wife, man. I don't even have a girlfriend. I'm very lonely.
>>768694721
Have you read the article? It's a scientist who have been fired for proving males are on average 4 points of IQ superior to female and had to apologise for going back to work.
Where is your argument?
>>768693108
A few psycho man-hating Tumblr TERFs does not feminism make. The vast majority of people that call themselves feminists just want basic shit like equal pay and justice for rape victims. I dislike radicals as much as you do; hate in any direction interferes with progress.
>>768693516
ayyy look at the guy second from the left just pretending to wear heels
>>768691602
Very much in favour, except some of its advocates suck, and manage to arrange things such that no matter what they say or do, you can't criticise them.
Still, just because some of the people in it suck, doesn't mean I think the general idea is bad.
>>768695736
I'm just saying the way the research was conducted is in dispute.
>>768695625
Its all about intelligence. As for rape gene per se, such a specific thing is probably a ridiculous aegument to pursue however there does seem to be a correlation between intelligence, crime, poverty, etc.
>>768695794
What about it do you like?
>>768695832
>>768695625
There is a study about black and white children who have been adopted by white couples in the USA, it's the one with no cultural/environmental factor but I don't have it.
Otherwise, google "IQ by country"
>>768695918
>>768691602
Define your terms. Do you mean equality-under-the-law-feminism, or the bunch of marxist whiners blaiming their own failings on the patriarchy?
All for equality under the law. Of course a woman should have the same rights as a man, and only merit should hold you back in life: Discriminating based on gender alone is wrong. Which is why the bunch of whiny cunts who call themselves feminists these days have none of my sympathy, because gender discrimination is what they actually ask for in order to gain EQUITY, not equality.
>>768695938
>>768695976
>>768695832
aren't you considered retarded when it's under 80?
>>768695832
Seems fair. I didn't know there was that much of a discrepancy of intelligence between countries. I wish I was from Hong Kong.
>>768691602
>glitched prices!!!! nons!
>>768696040
It used to be 75 or 70 I believe. Now thats considered politically incorrect.
>>768691602
It’s exactly equivalent to niggers wanting free gibs. It has nothing to do with equality. Just this morning there was a story about an elderly ambulance officer in Melbourne who was assaulted while working by two bitches. They even rammed his ambulance with their car. Three operations later and he still can’t return to work because of his injuries. Guess what? No jail time for the bitches and not a peep from feminists about this fucking screaming injustice. They are only interested in “equality” when it benefits them.
>>768695832
>>768695918
https://www.youtube.com/user/fringeelements
>>768696077
The problem with Asian countries is that they trust the state way too much. There is a cultural factor at play as well but the countries that were given Western consitutions and systems (Asian Tigers) have performed exceptionally well in their brief experiments with liberty.
>>768694542
sus-sus-sus-pended
>>768696077
Culture and religion have an enormous influence on Islamic practice (naturally), but there are other factors that explain the discrepancy in intelligence found in:
>>768695832
1. Is the fact that Islam permits the marriage between 1st cousins.
2. Is the phenomenon known as the "brain drain". Western economies desire high functioning individuals and are willing to import and train highly capable individuals from the 3rd world, further decreasing the remaining population's IQ. However, this is a relatively recent phenomenon and is insifficient in explaining the overall disparities.
>>768696581
Also, during emigration, high-IQ/highly educated people are often the first to go.
>>768693542
Nice, lucky kid.
>>768695636
Notice how most feminists are just fucking ugly?
>>768691602
How does feminism feel about me?
>>768696838
fucking landwhales
>>768696838
Why are 99% of feminists unattractive?
Because they cannot attract a suitable, capable male.
They also cannot take it upon themselves to admit that they are the causes of their own miseries (hence their unwillingness to address obesity). Its easier to blame others for your shortcomings.
Attractive women can garner capable males and thus do not wish to pursue policies designed to restrict the financial potential of their partners.
Also obesity is a consequence of an individual's inability to defer gratification and predict future consequences. Both qualities are tied to intelligence.
>>768697149
Fat is beautiful. Its also about restructuring millions of years of human evolution with their social constructs of attractiveness. Fundamentally, there lies another corollary of Marxism. Marxism seeks to restructure society in the effort to produce a more just and rational one. It fundamentally rejects human nature and believes it can train humans (via the state naturally) to be cooperative with the communist society.
>>768697490
Women and men are not equal and that is ok.
>>768697538
>>768697572
Some argue that it is a supremacist ideology.
>>768695866
It's a pretty broad subject, but I like that it roots out how society treats some groups worse than others for totally bullshit reasons, and generally advocates for making things good for everyone.
The downside is that, while a lot of stuff that we do is largely unconscious. Example: we don't deliberately mean to piss off black people when they ask where they come from, but are often aware that they can be asked this quite frequently, and it gets very draining. The "microaggression" is a stupid trivial thing that's easy to mock, but when you're on the receiving end of it day in day out, it just sucks).
Sometimes you've got to challenge people about stuff they don't think about, but some feminists have a knack of doing it in a very smug preachy kind of way that really makes me want to tell them to fuck off, which is a shame because it's probably a decent thing they're trying to put across.
When you explain this stuff in an open and non-condescending or accusatory way, it can make sense and change your mind. Some people are capable of doing it.
The bad ones gang up and make examples of people when they get it wrong, like that's ever going to convince them. You didn't win their hearts, you just humiliated them publicly, and now they're going to be angry and listen to the nice welcoming MRAs who'll tell them they did nothing wrong and it's all someone else's fault that their life isn't great. And you can't tell the idiot feminist that they've just hurt their own cause, because they'll give some nonsense canned response like "stop tone policing" or something.
So yes, feminism would be great, if it weren't for a lot of the actual feminists.
>>768697635
But its more likely to just be a bunch of entitled land whales that see the state as a means of furthering their standards of living at the expense of others (cis white men).
>>768697718
You forgot to provide an example of good feminist policy.
Also black people arent the only people asked "where are you from". Its called small talk. People are just looking for an opportunity to be the next martyr for their greater cause.
>>768697740
>>768698007
>>768698046
Male privilege.
>>768698094
>>768698149
>>768698224
>>768691602
Feminism was fine when they really wanted to be equal. Any real feminist who wanted equality would currently be speaking out for men's rights as there has been a shift
>>768691602
Only weak men are afraid of feminism...
>>768695705
Key phrase was later on
>>768691602
Quite comfortable with it, but I'm a repugnant, beta faggot in other ways around these here parts.
>>768698007
Are you telling me it's less likely to have an accident at the office, while sitting behind a comfortable desk, after having cried your way into blue collar jobs?
Shocking.
>>768698377
>Only weak men embrace feminism...
FTFY
It seems to be without question that /b/tards simply do not pay attention to the outside world.
This threads are pure torture. I cant believe the time we are living.
Dont you guys think 80% of the people, or more, is normal but the media cares for the retard minority just to get clicks?
Anyways the immigration-globalism politics related stuff is sickening.
>>768691602
>How do you feel about feminism?
Dont use a magnificient iberican bull for this dented thread
>>768699312
Demented *
Feminist gf
>>768699483
Its not worth it man
>>768691602
A while back I was in a political youth-party, mostly because of one of my friends, but it was interesting at first. At first, there was just a little branch of feminism, with an equal amount of focus on men's rights and such (false rape-charges, child custody, etc.), but after a while the feminism just took over the whole show for some reason. The entire thing became this SJW circle jerk. Like, yes, I know women are dealt a bad hand in some cases, but men are also facing a lot of similar problems. I quit, mainly because it became much more about finding non-problems than bringing focus onto the actual problems and because feminism is just one side of the coin, so I didn't want to be associated with a group so close-minded they opted to feminism
>>768699888
TRIPS OF TRUTH
Do you think people pushing this agenda is looking for an actual massive riot? A rebirth of extremism or civil wars?
>>768691602
Absolute cancer. Every single bit of it. It is all about female dominance. They lie all the time about "statistics" and "oppression" and use it as an excuse to continue male oppression.
This so called third wave feminism in 1st world countries is bullshit. But women are definitely oppressed in certain parts of the world and that is a totally worthy cause.
Subversion
>>768701152
This guy gets it
>>768698046
I feel like she missed the point of her religion. Definitely smells like she's a non believer trying to dismantle from the inside.
t. normie goon