I just started 40 mg of amphetamine a day ama
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I just started 40 mg of amphetamine a day ama
It is prescription before anyone asks
>>768644931
how does this differ from my Adderal XR 30's?
>>768644931
Whats it like?
ur rollin rn lol hi af
>>768644931
I just started a week ago for ADHD. It helped me a to calm me, but got a ton of side effects.
It's the same but I crush them up and take them in my nose so they hit me quick
>>768644931
what is your diagnosis?
> inb4 a month later, OP addicted, keep having to take more and more, and stopping the drug gives horrendous withdrawal symptoms
Op here. I have alcoholism, bipolar and anorexia. My psychiatric doctor is just an idiot and keeps on giving me more and more adderal and benzos
I don't feel withdraw and if I do too much I simply wait till I have more even if it's a few weeKS and still don't Jones out. It doesn't make me crave
Diagnosis is bipolar mainly. Also anorexia alcoholism and adhd
>>768645563
That's fucked up. Drop that son of a bitch, and get real help. It's only ordinary people who can help you. Make some new friends. They say you become your friend after some time. Pick a person you want to be like, and be their friend.
I try to make friends and by the way I'm 32 if that mattees. My psychiatrist thinks it's best and I trust him cause I've gone to 3 and they all said I need meds to keep me proper. I'm going back to college this year I just hope I don't fuck everything up again
I've been with like 40 women. I don't have a trouble getting friends I just have trouble keeping then. Amphetamine makes me more sociable and helps me keep people around. I know if I sound stupid
My best friend was a new twitch streamer and we ended up getting along very well. I helped her with her bf problem's and we cybered a lot of times. I'm just sick of not being a great guy
Btw open here and I wasnt joking in my last few posts. My best guy friend is in his 40s and legally blind. My best girlfriend right now lives across the ocean. Sony for posting I just felt lonely
I recently started taking Paxil and Tegretol 200mg, at first the high from the teg felt great but it wore off within a week or so, anyone know how to get that back?
I just hope one of you faggots reply and keep me company...
I tool paxil before and it didn't help. That's why I'm on ámphetamines I also take lorazepam and olanzepine.it's a harsh ride. I never post here but it's probably the amphetamines that's making me so talkative
>>768644931
You are well on your way to becomming a stim head.
You won't be able to aquire this status over night, however I have left this OP image with all the clues as to what you should have in your soon to be kit you will need. I've been a a stim head for years and the knowledge I present in this image could save you many hours of grief, and maximize your abuse of stimulants.
It may be a few weeks, it may be a few years, but one day you will thank me for opening your mind to this.
>>768645563
I'd kill to have your psych.
>>768649244
I appreciate the thoughts but I've always been a booze head. I've tried every street dug like crack or lsd or even research chemo like ibome but nothing has got me like booze. I smoked weed for ten years every day but I quit a year ago. I've actually been on amphetamine for over 2 years and when I run out I just go "oh well" and wait till it gets refilled. It's booze I can't deal with cause when I can't get it I feel im gonna die and have massive panic attacks something that doesn't happen with amphetamine but I appreciate your concern.
>>768649374
You don't want an Indian Canadian who just tell's you "you don't want the shit you take. You want my shit. That's the good shit" it's fucking creepy and makes you feel like a shitass
Op again and yes my doctor really said that. Oh yeah my shit is the good shit. Then proceeds to give me benzos and ampetamine. We went from 10 to 20 to 30mg a day. Basically if I ask him for it he will presciribe even though I met him in the hospital after a mental breakdown after a benzo and alcohol episode i don't even remember and they kept me locked up for weeks
>>768644931
methylphenidat? or what
>>768645000
how do you get prescribed this?i want it
If you find something great to do with all that focus you'll be happy
>>768649244
Nice collection, I see psychedelics in there too, not just stims
>>768650708
I work in psychiatry and legit a psychiatrist prescribing psychostimulants in a known case of BPAD is super odd. Most are worried about manic switching. Now I'm not sure if the risk of manic switching is actually particularly high on normal doses of mixed amphetamine salts but the fear is there and usually stops people from doing it in the first place. Very odd.
most docs are shit and will try to get you addicted so you pay money to big pharma.
they have a quota, they need to have people on meds so they look like good stats on their reports.
>>768649244
rofl cialis and viagra are in there, sildenafil and tadalafil. Explain pls.
>>768651782
psych HMO here that's super not true.
If anything it looks better to have more patients on no drugs at all. That's the figures a psychiatrist would brag about.
There is no need for psychiatrists to take kickbacks from drug companies to get paid. You pay them well. They get that money. That's enough. If they need more, they start clinics and charge rent on the rooms in exchange for more referrals of new patients. Or they go do research for drug companies (that stuff is much more shady tbh but it isn't directly patient-facing).
>>768652023
not around here.
here a clinic or any doctor gets paid more if they see more clients. its a matter of quotas. thats why most doctors (psychs too) want you to get in, be in there for 10 mins, they barely diagnose something out of you and quick out the door.
>>768645152
Not op but man are you getting anything out of these? I was prescribed them a few months back and haven't had much difference other than losing my appetite and then dropping 10 pounds because of that. I might wanna try bumping my dose up next time I see my doctor
>>768650387
I've attached another OP image of something that is very much misunderstooid and much more enjoyable than booze, more euphoric, less investment, no hangover (pending you don't abuse it for days on end), even follows with a brief period of stimulation which is very beneficial. Used to be thought of as dopamine rebound, there is much more clarity on the situation in that it is GHB receptor site stimulation which lasts longer than the Gaba-B site stimulation. THis causees the contradictary effects up to a G Coma followed by sudden wakening.
Of course, I am talking about GHB. This fantastic chemical is very misunderstood, but I assure you, if you enjoy booze, you will enjoy this even more.
Unfortunately it sounds like you are experiencing withdrawal symptoms from alcohol, which acts on Gaba-A receptor sites. While both Gaba-A and Gaba-B are separate sites which activate very similar feelings, and you can use one to help battle the effects of another one upregulating from abuse, heavy alcohol abuse is no laughing matter. You could end up having seizures, possibly even death. Fact is, you fuck with any Gabaergic substance for any prolonged amout of time, you are oing to pay for it eventually.
It would seem that Gaba-B is much less forgiving. Even one week of Phenibut use (targests Gaba-B) can result in signifigant withdrawal. One week of GHB abuse as well, coupled with over stimulation from GHB receptor site - very nasty feeling. Your best bet wouold be to quit drinking, and treat your symptoms with a long acting benzodiazepine under doctor supervision, something like diazepam or konazepam, and lower your dosage over a period of a few months to wean yourself off.
But seriously, give GHB a try sometime. Don't be a retard and measure with the cap, that is total noob mistake. Go get a 5ml syringe and accurately dose every time. The dose response curve for GHB is exponential, the best feelings are riding that fine line, use a syringe.
>>768644931
>hey nons, look here, a nice glitch!!!
>>768653283
Sure thing nigga, if i ever feel like passing out while walking and run low on desire to beat my wife, theres always GHB
>>768651706
I have a massive collection, here only half of what I own. I actually lay lysergamide crystal on blotter. I am not a trained chemist but self taught hobbyiest I suppose you could say
Here are some of the psychedelics I have. I also have ALD-52 powder, 1p-LSD powder, and hits of them on paper as well as ETH-LAD and AL-LAD. They are not pictured here for source identification purposes. While my interests are no longer in psychedelics, I like to keep a small amount of various ones on hand, even though I use them only two to three times a year.
This collection would be my third, I have two collections destroyed by ex girlfriends of mine. When one is inclined to have a drug collection, the habit is real and can get out of control.
>>768650387
how's it compare to meth?
>>768651868
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Stim dick is very mucha problem, however when on lots of stimulants and or in combination with GHB the drive becomes unreal. To have a proper fuck session with a like minded partner, cialis is not only heart healthy in that it helps with vasoconstriction, but it allows you to keep a solid hard on for days on end at 25mg dose.
Imagine edging for 6 to 10 hours. That is an orgasm you haven't experienced until you take this combination and let the dirty run wild. Promotes better sex for both partners, sustained erections and harm reduction. A must have in the stim users collection.
>>768654200
You would be surprised just how similar the two are from an oral standpoint. Keep in mind, your dosage would be far less weight wise with methamphetamine when compared to amphetamine sulphate.
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BAsed on the speed paste I have aquired in my time, it smells like cottonballs and is much bulkier than the nice smooth shards of methamphetamine. The crystal form allows for a denser concentration, when heated it melts into a liquid while forming vapor and when the heat is taken away it quickly crystalizes (if it is good stuff). This makes it perfect for vaporizing. In fact, every ROA is effective with Methamphetamine, and each carry their own characteristics. Oral is a lot closer to the serotogenic buzz you get from MDMA, snorted is speedy, smoked is very speedy and much shorter lived, plugged will rock you almost as hard as IV which of course takes on the highest bioavailability.
>>768654248
I use dexamphetamine 10mg BD but I would be afraid to have an erection for that long. I use an alpha blocker already for urethral/prostatic spasm and I think that might make shit worse.
>>768644931
are you bluepilled and live in 2009? if not you are a retard, that stuff with deplete your soul
>>768648276
Be careful with Tegretol. It self-induces. You have to go up doses really fucking slowly because it can snowball. Don't look to get high on carbamazepine though its a dirty drug tbh.
>>768648699
Paxil is also legitimately the worst antidepressant to take for bipolar. It's so fucking agitating.
>>768652518
Yeah, I was on Vyvanse which was great apart from this annoying pressure in the back of my throat. XR feels noticeably weaker, but no side effects.
I take it with vicadine, I got Klipper syndrome in my leg, and it hurts like a mofo.
>>768654842
Oh hey I've been giving talks about drug abuse to colleagues (work in addiction medicine) and I've always struggled to figure out the duration of action of the various ROA. You sound like you've done them could you clarify? Is IV longer acting that smoked? how many hours difference?
>>768655084
Klippel Trenaunay*
>>768654866
Look up edging, if it is not the result of something malfunctioning it is entirely safe. Cialis is wonderful for htis. It doesnt cause you to have an erection that you have to time like viagra. Your dick only gets hard when you are turned on. Naturally on stims, this could be for multi hour fap sessions, that when they conclude you realized you were more concerned iwth finding the perfect video to finish with that you were fapping an extra hour or two. But that final release, it's something that cannot be put to words, and puts a regular orgasm to shame. To share that with someone who is on the same page - that is something even more intense.
That said I don't have any urethral/prostatic spasm issues, this would be something worth considering for sure.
Can I ask why you would be on dexamphetamine and 10mg blue diaze? This seems to be a very contradictive combination where the diaze would just dull out the dexamphetamine. Surely they could just lower your dexamphetamine dose and keep you off the benzos. If you are regularly taking even 10mg daily, you will have withdrawal symptoms about 48 - 72 hours after your last dosage , and depending on the length of time you've been on it it could get pretty severe.
>>768655012
Bro almost anhereod on paxil. Shit fucked him up bad. This is the general consenseus.
>>768655222
No no 10mg dex twice daily dosing (BD). No benzos here. My GABA receptors are pristine. I take an alpha blocker (tamsulosin 400mcg mane) and insulin but that's it.
>>768655122
I can definitely shed light into this aspect, I am familiar with all ROAs aside from IV, however I am well educated on the matter. ROAs include
Oral, aka eating
Sublingual, aka under tounge
Inhaling, aka vaporizing (not burning typically)
IM Injection, Intramuscular injection
IV Injection, Intravenous Injection
Rectal, aka plugging, solution mixed typically disolved in h2o, and a few ml of water, and inserted into rectum after bowel movement. This is the closest you can get to IV wihtout IVing with many drugs.
Insufflation, snorted.
It will vary from drug to drug. For instance, you ahve a lower bioavailability for drugs that are not soluble in water such as benzodiazepines and some oddblalls like oxycotin when snorted , which contradicts the way most drugs (water soluble ones) act in which snorting would hit your system faster and result in a peak plasma level that exceeds that of oral, and also lasts a shorter duration.
Think of your ass as like a big super nose, when you plug properly, it is quickly absorbed and beause you dissolve dit in a liquid, it doesnt crust up or dry up in there, it all gets absorbed. This bypasses first pass metabolism associated with taking drugs orally, which ressults in higher peak plasma levels than snorting, and a duration that lasts typically close to as long as oral. This is the most efficient way to take it aside from IV. It lacks a true IV rush.
IV = Users are typically seeking the rush associated with having a 0 - 100% peak plasma level of drug in a matter of seconds. I can only compare it to oral ingestion of GBL, the percursor to GHB, which is much less polar than GHB, and crosses the gut wall and into the bloodstream when taken orally within about 5 minutes on an empty stomach. You drink this stuff and feel it within seconds. Its quite amazing. That rush with IV use is even more pronounced, it is direct to the bloodstream and there is no loss and it hits you all at once.
Drugs are bad, mmkay kids
>>768655122
IV experience then slowly levels off. Because you hit such a peak, it might seem less intense than it really is but you are tweaking , it just comparatively would feel like a lot less annd create the impulse to chase that high. As tolerance increases so does frequency and dosage, to try and get there again. This is why we see such a quick downward spiral with IV use.
IM use is comparatively much slower in effect, though I've only IM'd steroids and USP grade ketamine. Its efficient, but the comeup is somewhat slow and consistant, and it lasts quite a while.
Snorting is typically not done properly. A saline solution should be used before and 15 minutes after to get the most out of it. You shouldnt reail on the straw like its your final breath - that results in it hitting the back fo your throat. And lal that drip you got, that's now going to count as oral ingestion. The key is to snort just enough to get it into your nose, then follow up with saline spray 15 mins later to get full absorption and help your nose out a bit. It results in a fairly shortlived but quick peak in experience.
Smoking is even moreso. Efficiency wise, you are probably not getting nearly as muchb as you are vaping into your system. Meth smoke is quite light and not irritating at all despite the clouds that can be formed. No it does not cause crystals to form in your lungs. that sounds like psychosis talk. lol. It causes an instant peak and shortlived expereience, but is very moreshish once again chasing a high. Some people will find themselves compulsively dosing until its all gone. Typically any ROA that causes a very quick peak will be more mentally addictive. Stim addiction is a joke in comparison to say alcohol addiction, which trumps all forms of physical addiction. Makes opiod addiction look like a joke, and believe me opiod addiction is something that make syou want to kill yourself. It can get worse
>>768655597
>>768655951
This is great info, and I thank you a lot. Do you have any even vague numbers on duration though? How long is someone going to be high from meth if smoked vs IV for example. I know oral duration of action is stupidly long, like 20 hours, but it seems to be an uncommon route for the people I end up seeing.
>>768644931
getting amphetamine/adderal/ritalin in instant release, shit will fuck you up even if you take the extended release comonly, been taking concerta xr for almost 8-9 year(i'm 19) and got ritalin prescribed recently(to help regulate more if i need a boost at the end of the day without having to take concerta(each pill last 7-8 ish hour) tried it for the first time, the feeling i had could be described by OMPF
>>768655837
Addictive tendancies are bad, drugs are tools that are easily abused. If you talk with 10 drug addicts, you will find that 9 out of 10 of them started using a drug experimentally, but somewhere along the line started using it as a coping or escape method from other root issues they were dealing with in life.
Any form of abuse of anything as a method to cope is unhealthy. Binging on chocolate, smoking darts, doing drugs, drinkng - all bad and unhealthy ways of making you feel good by releasing feel good chemicals in your brain. An excellent maskt o take away from the pain you are expereinceing in life. The sad truth is it is just a mask, its temporary and typically makes things worse in the end.
I see nothing wrong with responsibly using drugs now and then, only for fun and never to deal with a problem im having in life. After commiting to this, I have not lost control or overdone it or felt the need to since.
This is a common misconseption, that the drug is the problem. It is the root cause of the drug use in the first place that is the problem. I think everyone no matter how well off in life could benefit from once a month councellor session.
>>768656225
also, god damnit methilphenidate can make you hornu
>>768651770
I hear you like loud and clear. When I do my adderall it's only once and I sniff it up my nose and when I come down I need beer or lorazepam otherwise it makes me feel I'm going to die. As to the others saying about edging. I edge every time I masturbate or have sex. And when I orgasm on amphetamines I can start again in most 5 minutes but on amphetamines I can last for days. Literally days with no sleep and just masturbate for 3 days in a row without stopping. I know now that's just my hypersexuality that comes with bipolar. After 3 days though I just detest sex. Like it seems the grossest thing in the world to me. I'm sorry for my late reply and I feel like a weirdo for masturbating for like 72 hours straght and it weird's out the girls I talk to even though some are into it. It's just... fucked up situation
>>768651770
manic switch, like behavior switch ?
fuck this shit is scary, mood switching induced by medication is scary,when you gather back, you wonder really hard why you reacted like that
>>768656350
I am op BTW sorry I should've put it my post. I have found that it makes me a better person overall though. I don't fight people or antagonize like I used to but that could be due to a number of things like just getting older or not smoking pot anymore or just have gotten over my preteen immaturity and having lots of sex. I thank you for your opinion though I think it really helped me
>>768644931
Fuck you I want amphetamines
>>768656211
There are too many factors to give you any decent numbers. Keep in mind a lot of factors will come into play - the purity of the product, the amount of product smoked, how often it is smoked in a session, the tolerance the individual has, the bodyweight the individual has, their natural sensitivities, etc. These all have an effect. Then to make things more complicated, you have your main effects and then residual after effects.
For instance, if one smoked just one decent sized pipe of methamphetamine, its main effects would be worn off within 4 - 5 hours, maybe even less, but they would still be left with residual stimulation.
Rectal administration is no joke, that shit will fucking destroy you. It is very easy to overdose, this goes for rectal administration of alcohol, heroin, you name it. Its the closest to IV you can really get, but it does not have that rush so you might overdo it and not know until its way too late. Rectal would last not as long as oral, but would produce more intense effects..
BTW, i dont htink 20 hours for oral is very accurate. I believe that would be also including residual after effects. I think maybe 8 hours for a single reasonable dosage would be more accurate. A chemical like Desoxypipradrol will have a 20+ hour active stimulation time, with an even longer residual stimulation after effects.
I guess duration would probably go something like this
Smoking < Snorting < IV < IM < Rectal < Oral
Shorter =----------------------------------------------Longer
(subjectively,)
And no problem at all, I'm happy to help. I think ther eis a lot of misunderstanding and people should be given the actual facts instead of being swayed to one side or another. That is their decision to make. I hope that information helps you better inform your colleagues and makes more sense!
>>768656350
I think all prespective is important, thanks for sharing.
I've gone close to 12 hours. I think when sustaining an erection for that long, it creates a more sensitive finish. Explosive.
It sounds like you have some negative thoughts towards your habit (and perhaps for some good reason, thats a lot of masturbating. My dick is sore after 10 hours.
However, keep in mind that having long ass fap sessions while on stims is pretty much the norm, you are not wierd and if you head to any stim subreddit, you will see fap sessions talked about frequently.
>>768656225
Concerta t time release can be beaten simply by cutting the pill in half, however you can only take it orally - that shit is impossible and pointless to try and sniff.
The 10mg blues instant release are golden. I used to take a 36mg and 18mg cut in half, then rail blues.
>>768656482
Manic switch is like you're just chilling and laughing with your girlfriend aND then all of a sudden you want to be the devil and make her feel as horrible as possible and after its all done you just think "what did I just do" and you start thinking that I can't be with anyone because I would hurt them and no one want's that so you end up being like me and withdrawing from all girls. Or you get super sexual first and just try to fuck everyone in sight and don't care what they think about you. It's bad. I've never raped another girl I could never forgive myself if I did bUT there have been times I'm too agrees I've and have had to talk it over with a girl after and the feel you get inside in those times is just awful. I hope no one has to go through that
>>768651770
Are you by chance talking about stimulant induced psychosis?
My theory is this is heavily influenced from lack of sleep and over exerting the body for too long. If you havent slept in 72 hours, you are in serious need of rest. Stimulants allow you to push through that. Your natural ability to force you to sleep is ineffective. Eventually wires cross and you are beyond the capability to help yourself.
Dissassociative induced manic episodes such as PCP, 3meoPCP, 2oxoPCM, O-PCE, etc are real.
In fact, we are in for some scary shit. The chinese have successfully made the correct connections with distribution chains in north america with a chemical called O-PCE. This will undoubtedlyu be sold as or cut with Ketamine, and it is already known to cause manic episodes with very limited amount of use. This causes unpredictable behavior. We are going to see a lot of cases in the coming year or so of this. Likely enough to make headline news.
Warn your people.
>>768657146
you are fucking paranoid
>>768657006
concerta xr isn't cutable, you just can't do it because of the tech used , there is a pushing charge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmotic_controlled-release_oral_delivery_system
i have 10 mg ritalin oraly taken and 54 mg concerta
>>768657232
No. I am well informed and connected. I am aware of truths that could possibly distort your perspective about the society we live in. As such i am aware of and somewhat involved with distribution and organized crime. And I am aware they have been seeking to source this for a while and they have made the right connections, and it will be piggybacked on their well established cocaine importation channels. This is all being established right now, it wont be long before we start seeing the result of this.
I am aware of how strong O-PCE is. I refused to help import it by playing dumb. I could have made a fortune off this one chemical, but I have morals and could forsee the devastation it would cause. But the connections have been made. This is not paranoid talk. This is fact.
>>768657023
i think i had this happen to me, less intense, like i'd be a cunt to someone then be sorry and feel extra guilty because it was uncalled for , i'm the guy that asked what it is and also concerta dude
>>768657404
this and the feeling of being a different person when my adhd is supressed made me stop for something like a year, more or less, thought i was going crazy
>>768657333
It is very much cutable. I am well aware as to how the delivery system works, and i have tested this and it has been very successful. When you cut it, you will notice there are two sides to it, one sortof yellow, and one dark. The dark side is the one that pushes the medication (the light side) out over time. By cutting the pill in half, you beat this process. It's honestly that simple. But it only works with oral delivery. You cant snort that shit effectively
>>768656943
Before I was even on Stims I would on some days fuck 5 girls a day and this was high school. I was an animal. It got so bad I burned a hole in my dick that didn't heal for over a month wish I had a pic. This is op btw. I was and probably still am a sex addict and I didn't care if it hurt me. I needed to get help because it would be brought down by massive amounts of depression . Like honestly I was the biggest player but I was always way more depressed than my peers. Now I'm 32 and alone. It's not a fun life. I miss those girls but I always had such a big mouth I'd push them all all way. My brothers and sister never had such a robust sex life but they are married or engaged. I would've rather had that
>>768657146
My people are in Australia. Chain likely to have linkages here?
As for switching, its a bit different to stimulant psychosis. It's an affective disturbance rather than a psychotic condition. Stimulant psychosis is also much more temporary, whereas a substance or medication induced manic swithc is just a manic episode precipitated by the substance. From that point it is a regular mania and will last as long as that person would normally experience mania (highly variable, but can be weeks to months easily)
>>768657467
thought you where talking about halving it, thanks but no thanks, when i see how i felt with only 10 mg, don't want to know how it feel with 54 mg
>>768651389
It is prescribed for people with ADHD - and people who have ADHD and take this are temporarily cured of their symptoms. They do not get the normal high resulting from amphetamine, it just acts differently on them.
>>768657600
and there are people lobying against that because hurr durr ADHD doesn't exist, fuck thos people, they don't know how much of a life changer it is to be able to supress it,even for short period of time
>>768654128
Holy shit I'm so jealous of this,I live in a shitty country with cancerous customs
>>768654128
so you collect it like one would collect stamps or fridge magnet ?
>>768657521
My people are professional businessmen and criminals, they are extremely intelligent, smart, and know how to work the right people to their advantage. They are in the pockets of so many restaurant chains, Universities, etc.
I was originally confronted by them because of a business venture I awas extremely successful in. They did not even let me know anything until about the third meeting to which without boasting, i was introduced to their capabilities
Unless you have had exposure to this level of crime, it would likely sound like something out of a movie. They have crooked lawyers, and are honest but if you cross them they have multitudes of ways to take you out, either legally, or using foot soldiers (i like to refer to them as pawn pieces, because that's exactly what these tough guys are to them).
I sometimes find myself in situations where friends of mine are boasting about doing really heat shit, drawing all sorts of attention to themselves. They would consider that reckless, and you'd never even be considered to work with them. But they can make anything happen, aside from some very strong stances on things like child abuse, they will use their skillsetsto make money by means of any way possible.
My point is, there is a very good chance that there is a connection there depending on how involved your people are. But any ties are likely loose, or entirely business related.
>>768657600
Exactly. When I was without med's I could be psycho. I'd be your rUn of the mill 4chan poster even though I never knew of this site then and or didn't exist. Now I do a lot better and it's because of meds such as amphetamine. It just worries me that maybe I'm now Im stuck here on prescription amphetamines and benzos for my life and what's the effect if I stop? Or what if I can't get then anymore? Scares me to death
>>768657644
I've heard this, and that is just dfownright silly. ADHD definitely exists, the reverse nature of action stimulants have in people with it is a surefire way of knowing something is going on there.
I had a friend take methamphetamine and pass out. He had severe ADHD. He knew that how it would effect him.
Same reason why methylphenidate (ritalin) would get me fucking high as a kite and do nothing for him.
I think there is a spectrum its not a black or white thing which makes diagnosis difficult , and i think it is way too easy for people to get scripted omething as intense as methylphenidate but i could never truly understand how much it helps because all i can do is get high as fuck off it lol.
>>768651770
I'm diagnosed bipolar and when I requested Adderall my psychiatrist laughed and said that would be a bad idea.
>>768657952
shrug. I need insulin to live. You get over it.
>>768657871
no I didn't mean my people as in underworld contacts. I sometimes pass on information about bad drugs coming in to my patients who have a tendency to relapse and use.
For example, a bunch of synthetic stimulants showed up that was making my patients sick (triggering psychotic relapses in my schizophrenic patients) and I warned them. It was being called Flacca, or Zombie, or Gravel. It seems to have faded away - people realised it was making them sick, wasn't worth it. I'd put it in the same category as Bath Salts but we traditionally don't have much of a problem with that stuff Down Under.
>>768658079
Well yeah stimulants don't have the greatest evidence base in bipolar is why. There is a pretty good body of clinical experience that points to stimulating medication precipitating manic relapse, unless you have strong antimanic agents on board.
>>768657952
I would do what you can to get off the benzos, depending on how long youve been on them, taper off slowly. If you outright cold turkey off them and have been on them regularly for some time, you are in for a very serious rude awakening.
I dont say this to scare you, i say this because doctors dont explain that to people. If you find yourself cut off you are up shits creek, the effects can last months and be severe anxiety and paranoia in a good case, in a bad case seizure and death, tremors, etc.
Let your doctor know you want to get off the benzos as you are afraid of becoming dependant and dont want to go through that,
My buddy has weaned off and replaced his benzodiazepine dosage with CBD marijuanana. He even managed to get his grow license, so we grow a lot of crop on his farm legally each summer, and we do it well.
Strains with high cbd and low THC can alleviate a lot of pain one goes throughb without causing ner to actually get high.
>>768658058
i know that methylphenidate do nothing on ordinary people but i have a frind that tried aderall and smoking pot and he had a fairly good experience , like the work enhancement + the imaginativity, (might just be a placebo effect) but yeah i don't think that on the long run, the effect last like for an ADHD person for who it work everytime without effect going down/starting to not work
>>768658287
One of the problems with empirical treatment for suspected ADHD is that psychostimulants have an observed beneficial effect on pretty much everyone. That's why it's hard to get them. You have to prove the disfunction of ADHD before receiving the stimulant.
The thing about paradoxical reaction to stimulants appears to be true, but not foolproof. There are many people with pretty severe ADHD who don't get the calming reaction to stimulants. I'm not sure about the inverse. I still tend to assume in my practice that someone who can feel relaxed on stims is probably ADHD.
>>768658130
Indeed,. you are talking about A-PVP and A-PHP, pyravolones, basically analogues of MDPV, which was the active ingredient in bath salts. Int he images i posted you will notice a few 25g bags of 4f-PHP, Hex-En (N-Ethyl-Hexedrone), and 4-MPD (4-MethylPentedrone). These are the new age legal versions (in some areas) of the drugs you speak of.
A-PVP still trumps them all. It is a very short acting but very intense rush, which keeps a usre habitually abusing it over and over again until they go psycosis. It was bad, MDPV caused the same type of bewhavior buty was longer lasting.
I can say with certainty that freebasing 4f-php is inbetween A-PHP and A-PVP, if the general public beomes aware of this we will have another flakka epidemic on our hands.
I freebased 4f-PHP as well as Hexen by simply adding a small amount of ammonia to the powder, which causes an orange oil to come out . The bioavailability is much higher when vaporized freebase over HCl
>>768658532
doesnt the ammonia fuck up your olfactory nerves? Or is it consumed in the reaction.
>>768658459
well the thing that played in my favor to get a treatement is that i also have dysgraphia, also, here in france, if you are under 18 , adhd medication are refunded by the state , if you are over 18 and have prescription that were done before being 18, they are still refunded, but if you are over 18 and are prescribed those medication ,they arent refunded, luckily ,the costiest one (concerta) was prescribed befor 18 so i have a refund, but ritalin was prescribed after 18 so i don't have a refund, also, fuck that pharmacy that throwed a pissy fit saying , hurr durr the law say we can't deliver both concerta and ritalin at the same time because it's too much(when there is nothing said about that interdiction)
>>768658287
Methylphenidate will cause sers who do not have ADHD to get intense euphoria and long lasting stimulation. It will get you high as fuck.
It is totally natural for the body to adjust, we are adaptable creatures and any outside influence the body will try to level out so tolerance and addiciton are bound to happen no matter what you are taking regularly. Diminsihing returns/effects are also entirely expected.
That is the problem with drugs that mask a problem and dont actually help aid in fixing it. Its a bandaid solution with a lot of negative reprecussions.
Oftentimes people arent aware that the medications they are prescroibed can have such a negative effect. that is not okay in my books. And a reason why everyone should do their homework on anything they are prescribe.d
>>768658459
It's probably a safe bet. Especioally if one can sleep on an amphetamine like meth. Thank you for your input
>>768658532
Years ago I used to buy this shit called Cloud 9. I don't know for sure but I believe the active ingredient was MDPV and the high was better than coke or meth. Of course I kept smoking it and of course I went psychotic. I'm amazed I stayed out of jail and the psych unit.
>>768658658
Ammonia is a terrible thing to ingest in any way.
However its very difficult to fuck up freebasing with ammonia. It creates the reaction, and then is evaporated out. this can be done through any means, either leaving to air dry, or but using a hot lamp, or lighter, etc. There will be no ammonia left to consume if done correctly. If it is not done correctlky, that could cause lasting damage to you r respiratory system. Just one sniff of ammonia will cause an involuntary head movement away from it and very nasty sting. There is no way you could vaporize this and not know it.
>>768658841
Yes , MDPV was very Moreish,, I never funny enough, tried this one and maybe that's a goood thing.
But MDPV was the more active ingredient when that story went down about the guy eating the other guy on the roof. Of course, this is a very rare case of super abuse that resulted in that. You should consider yourself lucky, if you let yourself hit that point of psychosis its too late to help yourself, you are on an extremely fucked up version of autopilot and that thought alone scares the shit out of me.
>>768658981
This might be my perspective working in both addiction medicine and psychiatry, but often the first thing to go when you start down the path of psychosis is the insight that you are becoming psychotic.
>>768658952
Methamphetamine in combination with or used on its own with GHB. Both in heavier doesages will cause difficulty in ejaculation.
A fellow drug nerd uses low to medium doses of Kratom to aid in this with very good success.
One of the active chemicals in Kratom is known as O-DesmethylTramadol and it is on the researchchem market, i have about 100g in this picture here in the bags labelled O-DSMT. I can confirm it will aid in this.
>>768658981
I would smoke a few bags of Cloud 9 (can't remember the weight) and stay up for two or three days. I'd be hearing voices and imagining that authorities were coming to bust down the door and arrest me, and just cower in my bed until I finally fell asleep. Maybe that's what saved me- it triggered a fear response during the psychosis. I didn't even want to leave my room because I thought everyone knew that I was high.
>>768659042
You are 100% correct.
I can confirm this with repeated methamphetamine and GHB abuse, and lack of sleep. I always know when im pushing my body too far. It works something like this.
Visual glitching and auditory hallucinations on white noise will start. You recoginize these as hallucinations, but dont put the picture together fully how fucked up it is you are hearing them. One time it was 2am i was outside having a smoke and i was hearing a robocop but canine version on a megaphone in the distance and it created a scene in my head that was almost like Terminator movies. Basically, that was my warning.
I am smart enough to call it quits and get sleep by means of heavy benzodiazepine dosage and it almost instantly relieves all symptoms even if its only 3 hours of sleep. Without that, you begin to start believing the hallucinations. Once you have crossed that path you are no longer in control and cannot help yourself - you are too far gone.
You will likely be doing odd behaviors that seem to make total sense to you. I once saw a tweaker pulling all the covers off lightswitch boxes for some reason. Jut wierd shit, or saying things that make no sense. Its kindof scary to see someone in that level of delusion.
PROTIP : If someone is going through this, do not argue their delusions, play into them and validate them. Arguing with them will do nothing but aggrivate them and it could cause their behaviour to turn aggressive quickly.
>>768659042
Can confirm as someone who's been to the psych unit twice. I've had many other bouts of psychosis, however, and managed to remind myself I was just going crazy and to ride it out. I'll play along with the delusions in my head but always remember it's just that- a delusion. It took me awhile to be able to manage this (bipolar with psychotic features)
>>768658683
i know those adverse effet too well quick description :
-elevated heartbeat while at rest(like you just ran)
-splitting headaches(staying in the dark for 2-3 hour for it to calm down yay)
-hunger suppression(imagine feeling hungry/stomach pain from hunger but you have a block in your throat , so you don't feel good eating)
anxiety/feeling nervous talking/interacting like if you had a speech debuff in a role playing game
-moral/behavior change
-anger impulse/feeling angry without knowing why
>>768659275
Eat yogurt and drink water at this point after banging ritalin. Smoke large amounts of weed no cigs no coffee
>>768660420
nope , i don't smoke, coffee help with headaches since the pain relief i take is paracetamol, (work hand in hand) and i mainly take concerta xr(ritalin is to allow for some regulation/if i need to work for 1-2 hours, i won't take concerta which last for a full day of work ))
Ask for Stratera for ADHD it's much more mellow.
>>768660741
nah, i have a treatment that work, + the way i experience ADHD is like as follow(don't know for the other member here, could be interesting to see them describe the way it feel for them), i feel under active but my brain can't focus on anything, or focus on a lot of thing but for short amount of time, it help supress the part where i can't focus, and also put me into a normal state of activity, but it also supress the ultra-talky part of me, which isn't suitable for work/studying
>>768660979
this sounds a bit like me.
I have this thing where I'm doing a boring or repetitive task and I literally can't stop myself from losing focus on it. I cannot even force myself to look at it and pay attention to it after a time.
>>768660576
I find caffeine plus my dexamphetamine feels awful. Real chest anxiety. Even worse when I did it when I was on methylphenidate.
>>768662770
well, i don't have drawback from caffeine + methylphenidate
also, (since both of the post you answered are mine) i feel like i have a more artsy/art inclined side when i don't supress adhd, when i take meds, i'm more profesional/less chit chaty
>>768645563
Fellow bipolar fag here, along with adhd,general anxiety etc (same shit different names) I'm also on amphetamines and I'm on my third month and my heart is still pounding 24/7 and I have unrivaled restlessness.
Shit works though
>>768663003
Yeah that feels accurate to me too.
>>768663348
also, since i have disabilities , mainly ADHD and dysgraphia/fine motor skill disabilites, i feel like my brain compensated other part, like i have 120 iq in conceptual thinking but lack / normal in other field, and i think that's related to those disabilitie, and also the reason i took computer science/ IT field as a work field, because i'm good at it , partly thanks to those disabilities