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there are people who think this is wrong
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>>768626558
If people can't support themself and society doesn't want to help them, they should die.

immigration should be considered a war crime, if you can't make a good life at home then you will never make a good life anywhere!!
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how insecure are you people?
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>>768626835

exceptionally.
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>>768626835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWzAiTPfmQE
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>>768626685
>immigration should be considered a war crime,
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>>768626558
No there are people who think its a waste of money since most illegal immigrants came here legally and overstayed their visas.
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>>768627222
the place where the OP photo was taken was a smuggling route.
cartels can't beat a 30ft wall
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>>768627052
If you enter a foreign territory with the express purpose of working illegitimately(it may or may not be legal but that doesn't matter if it's wrong. giving someone HIV is legal in california, for example) to send money out of the country, you are worse than hitler.
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>>768626558
it's a stupid idea that will not work at all. A monument to racism and nothing more.
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>>768627828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01_2tvtQcE
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>>768627222
These people should be injected with an RF chip and then told they have 12 hours to vacate the country. Failure to comply results in immediate execution by law enforcement upon next encounter. No arrest, no trial, no bus, just
>scan
>beep beep
>pow
If there are kids left behind then adoption if citizens, or deported if not. After being tagged, of course.
Immigrate legally or not at all.
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>>768626558
It's not "wrong", it's just a waste of time and money.
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I don't think most of you know how much construction has already started. add up the miles of wall from each location.
Trump is finally beginning his border wall project across multiple states.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/spotlights/border-wall-construction-underway
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>>768627828
You're a complete dipshit if you don't know the difference between racism and nationalism or are otherwise unable to distinguish when one or the other is taking place. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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>>768628066
it worked for Hungary
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>>768626835
Why do you think we're building the wall?
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I'll take "what is a rope" for $1000.
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>>768626835
Mexico has a wall to keep out people more south. Why they so insecure?
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>>768628816
Yeah for sure. That'll work
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I'm for secure borders, but building a wall is the least effective and most costly way to go about doing it
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>>768627828
Well also a huge waste of money.
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>>768629106
Why doesn't a wall help? What do we do then smart guy? I'm down for shooting them but I don't think that's gonna fly with a lot of people.
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>>768629021
how do you get a rope up on the top of one of those huge poles?
how do you get over the top to the other side to come down?
your plan calls falling 30 feet to land on US soil a victory
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>>768627461
a fucking ladder can beat a 30ft wall
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>>768629282
Stricter restrictions on visas. ~80% of illegals come legally on planes and overstay their visas
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>>768629145
it will pay for itself.
look at how much we lose every single year to illegal immigration
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>>768626558

if you feel your livelihood is threatened by some fruit-pickers, you should neck yourself immediately

btw, I thought Mexico was supposed to pay for that
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America’s literally a country of immigrants who came here from there own shithole countries for a better life

>nice b8
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>>768629474
I can write big scary numbers on a map of the United States too.
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>mfw Drumpf's wife is an immigrant, possibly illegal
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>>768629430
>fall 30 feet
>get severely injured
why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75mhgg-kee4
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>>768629474
complete bullshit
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>>768629587
Everyone is always an immigrant. No Borders woo!
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>>768629587
Yeah times have changed. If it was about a country welcoming immigrants China could move half it's population to America. Then it would he China after awhile.
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Mexico should make it's own wall. Within a year i'd expect their living conditions to improve by at least 1000%.

A real wall. Blocking radio, internet, entertainment, everything.
South Americans should have no idea who the current shithole countries president is.
No tourism, nothing. All the capitalists deported. Shoot any parasite on site. No commies, no govt, no slavery.
It'd be heaven on earth.
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>>768626558
Berlin wall 2.0
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>>768629302
you're talking like this is a mile high wall. I could piss over that thing. I've climbed over taller shit than that when I was fucking 12.
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>>768629714

>>768628816
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>>768629856
Don't worry, when China fucks their shit up enough and wants to move in, we're not stopping them anyway.
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>>768629474
Truth
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It's not really that it's wrong, it's just stupid. Most illegal immigration is from people coming here legally and simply over staying their visas. It also won't do anything to lower crime rates or people on welfare. It's just a big myth. It's 100% only there to make people FEEL good.
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>>768629714
drop a rope you fucking moron. have you never taken part in any physical activity?
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What, using a crane to get it out?
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>>768629856
>Go to niggerland
>Have to pay the goy 10x more to do the same thing
>No freedom police state, nothing to do with the money
Why?
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>>768630023
You know what makes me feel good? Big booty bitches.
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>>768629981
and what's the plan when getting caught by border patrol when they see you climbing before you even make it to the the top?
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>>768630023
Do they also fly their drugs in with visas?
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>>768626558
Uh, yeah, there's nothing on the top to prevent them from climbing all the way over.
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>>768627461
Digs man outta prison using rail cars.
>Cant get over that shitty fence.
Its hardly the great wall of China, is it.
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>>768628449
it is racism and you're just in denial about it. At least those incels in Charlottesville had the balls to wear their racism with pride. Chickenshit closet racists like yourself are especially pathetic.
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>>768630138
Nah, they fly them over the wall with drones. Launch them over the wall with large slingshots and in one case I shit you not a fucking homemade cannon, oh and tunnel under the wall.
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>>768628558
And how large is the Hungarian border?
Maybe it's worth it on that scale.
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>>768630157
Nigger wall of nigeria stopped nothing. Put a ladder against it.
>They was patrols
Along that length. Nigger prease.
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>>768630109
if they're watching anyway than what's the point of a fucking wall? jesus christ, trying to reason with morons is exhausting.
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>>768630157
nobody ha tried to climb it yet and it would have to be a long tunnel because border patrol will have the road along the wall with a secondary fence
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>>768627994
I like the way ou think
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>>768630313
Nobody is watching, they're too busy trying to find all the gays/trans in the military and expel them.
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>>768630248
Thanks! Now I know how to get quality cocaine!
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>>768630138
Mostly boats actually
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>>768627723
thats what you call illegal immigration, not immigration(basically, important qualifier in quotes)
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>>768630476
I forgot boats.
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>>768628449
Nationalism is racism. And that's a good thing.
>bb-buuuu
If everything is niggerish then you don't have a nation anymore.
>mm white skayn
Niggerism knows no colour.
Europeans are the naggest niggers of all time.
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>>768627723
disgusting phone poster
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>>768630258
remember border patrol has almost 100 miles of wall scheduled for 2018 and more expected in 2019
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>Fence off country.
>They love it
>Laugh as the police herd them about and shoot them if they try to escape
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>>768626558
I don't feel its morally wrong I just think its a pointless waste of money that could be better used somewhere else. Why do we even have fucking laws if we aren't going to enforce them? The liberal agenda allowed them to freely flow across the border and now no one wants to send them back. I don't really care if they stay or not. One thing I do know is they should be paying taxes and if they break one of the big three laws (murder, rape, pedophilia) they should go to a Mexican prison instead of a US prison. They should also not qualify for social assistance programs like welfare and food stamps. If you want a better life you better work for it or life is gonna suck.
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>>768630519
the US has a great coast guard
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>>768627828
>Mexico is racist
Bracko, is that you?
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>>768630675
75% actually do pay taxes. Supposedly anyway, but don't take my word for it, look it up yourself.
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>>768626558
ITS WRONG BECAUSE ITS NOT A FUCKING WALL... ITS A SHITTY FENCE.
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>>768630285
There's hundreds of tunnels under that wall, and yes it was manned pretty well.

>>768630356
You obviously haven't a clue what goes on underneath your foot. tehe, am sure the tunnels are already built and leading to main station house lol...You think the Palestinians are the only ones that dig tunnels, lel.
>based miners.
How deep you wanna go.?
How deep is your wall pocket.
(:|
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>>768629145
>not giving out a trillion in handouts to illegals
>waste of money
hoo man...
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>>768630533
You need to stay in school. In fact start again from the infants and work your way up, ;)
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>>768629551
>if you feel your livelihood is threatened by drug-dealing gangster
ftfy
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>>768630934
One of those fancy schools Betsy Davos keeps pimping?
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>>768629587
America was a nation of settlers. Now it's a nation of immigrants.
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>>768631050
We're a nation of inbred idiots.
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>>768629932
>libtard detected
newsflash shit for brains, when people tried to cross the Berlin Wall they were shot on sight. Furthermore, the wall which was erected by East Germany was used to keep people in, not out.This wall between us and the spics is a half measure at best and really isn't anything more than a dog and pony show. Your hyperbole makes you look fuckin ignorant and cringy, not edgy.
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>>768630811
it's a huge fence. largest fence ever.
basically a wall you can see through. not too complicated
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>>768629722
I read the other day that CA averages $1,100/year/illegal to the taxpayer.
>inb4 citation needed
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Americans will be lucky to find passage to Mexico.
Honesty^ with love.

;)
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>>768630716
Obviously still not good enough to stop 99% of the cartels drugs from getting in
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>>768630589
Oh good, a whole 5% of the border.
Better hope you can repeal the Twenty-second Amendment, or this wall is never gonna be done.
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>>768627052
Inconceivable!
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>>768631144
Ok cool, if thats what you think, am fine by this, but your president knows differently, one can assure you of that.
>Wall plan to blockade france.
^THIS. Is not new.
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>>768628970
Wrong
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>>768626558
Not me build that wall Trump
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>>768629932
I want this part of the Berlin wall. A wide-ass moat with steep concrete sides.
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>>768629587
People who hate immigrants are idiots I agree but we need to control the flow if immigrants to this country. Illegal <=== immigrants of all nationalities consume more tax dollars than they contribute and it puts a strain on the economy. We already have enough financial issues as it is.
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>>768631369
Do they stock it with fish?
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>>768631260
>more than 70 miles this year
>at least 100 more miles expected next year
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/spotlights/border-wall-construction-underway

There won't be many of the old cartel routes any more. then we complete the whole wall when the democrats give up on stalling it out
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>>768630934
Look at this nigger. You can almost smell the degeneracy.
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>>768628816

The actual final solution to this problem.
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>>768629677
She married a United states citizen so she is legal dipshit.
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>>768630931
>Spending billions on a wall that wall that will slightly lower immigration rates, while 80% of immigrants fly right over it
Hoo boy
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>>768631645
what liberals never understand is that we support the legal immigration.
but illegal immigration will never work and will soon end up facing Trump's wall
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>>768630171
That gas lighting attempt was extra fail, cuck. I don't need your retarded whingy ass telling me what I think and it's painfully obvious that every word out of your mouth has to first make it's way around the globalist cock that is permanently down your throat. I'd say nice try, but I'd be outright lying if I did.
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>>768631417
>pppeee hoo wheee uuuh whuuur
Immigrants are by definition parasites.
Oy where are the white women at?
Opportunity here I come
*Rubs hands*
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>>768629917
Americans watch too much movies
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>>768626558
Alright guys, can we just let them have this one?
I mean, if they are dumb enough to believe a wall is going to fix all of the immigration problems at the lowest cost... lets just let them have that. The more we fight, the more they are going to keep trying to dump money into it.

Do you really think the Republicans are actually going to pass any laws or approve any government programs? Or god help them... speed up the visa program?

Who is living the pipe dream here, democrats?
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>Hard brexits.
HAHAHAH.

:|
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>>768630023
kek
Is this how you feel when you have a couple rodents in the house?
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>>768631815
>Support legal immigration
The worst kind.
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>>768631519
one day the cartels will be reduced to smuggling via air and water, which are impossible and never happen today
gg trump
you've saved us all by spending billions on defense pork barrel
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>>768631519
Yeah the Democrats are gonna give up on stalling.
Just like the Republicans gave up on repealing the ACA.

You don't know politics if you think that will ever happen.
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>>768631519
>170 miles by 2020
>Out of 10 million
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>>768631859
it's like that time I caught intestinal worms and they built a roof over my dick for cheap
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>>768631867
>Who is living the pipe dream here
that bit about the democrat winning isn't quite right but you got the general idea
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>>768631369
eww, concrete, most of yuropes was wood, then the church converted them and they brought all the heretical images of prior culture down around them, then re-erected our cultures in their own image, cursed be them and dammed be ye..
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>>768631974
Maybe the wall needs to be built around DC while shit is in session. And then gassed.
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>>768626835

We're not secure at all. Hence the wall.
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>>768630109
>actually thinking there are going to be cops every 10 mts looking at the wall 24/7 looking for ilegals
I swear you people are stupid
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>>768630805
>pay taxes
Clarify. Property tax? Sales tax? Many taxes you can't escape.
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>>768627723
Well everyone's is worse the Hitler since he did nothing wrong
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>>768631519
170 miles isn't even 10%. New routes will be found
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>>768632096
Not unless they can write them speeding tickets!
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>>768626558
I want 10%.
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>>768631996
Look man, I think the wall is dumb, but the fucking planet is only ~25,000 mi around.
The border in question is 1,954 miles
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>>768631440
I imagine it would connect the Gulf with the Pacific, so yes.
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>>768631921
nigga wot? You gonna say something that fuckin retarded and not back it up?
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>>768631891
Cory in the house.jpg
You put mousetraps around when you have jews in your germany. You don't build a fence on your toilet seat.
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>>768632096
that's why the wall is under construction, s that this will border jumping takes way longer than 10 minutes.
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>>768630109
How many men do you expect to patrol the entire 10 million miles of border?
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>>768631645

look at her history, retard
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>>768629587

> a bunch of drowning people climb onto a lifeboat. Let's keep allowing people to enter the boat until it sinks
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>>768626835
why do liberals always make everything out to be insecurity? It's not psychological insecurity. It's an actual threat and as men, we are the protectors of society. Get that through your feminized beta cuck brains you fucking fat neckbeards.
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That is a fence that was planned before Trump even ran this time.
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>>768631669
How do 80% fly into the US? Srsly? Can you just hop on a plane in Mex, no questions asked? Why do I have to get a visa to drive across the border? Besides Mexico being a dirty racists.
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>>768632301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBLjyQtBRM
the National Guard is now deployed to defend the border with Mexico. this wall is going up
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>>768632236
>Retarded
Don't need to say anything. You've said everything forming justification.

Legal immigrants support govt. Erase freedom and the country itself.
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That wall is a newly opened fission of money leaks though. aka black budget.
lol
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>>768632480
I uh, know a couple of them there national guard types personally, if Marines eat crayons... These mother fuckers must be eating bricks of lead.
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>>768632016
>intestinal worms
>my dick
I don't want to know, anon.
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>>768632368
Trump got the funding that the project needed for years, and he's not repairing the rusty old fence. Trump is replacing it with his 30ft wall
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>>768632043
I can get behind this.
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>>768632480
One was so inept, when he was deployed to Iraq, he fucked up everything he did so horribly they finally just had him in a pit burning human excrement all day.
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>>768627828
Fuck off you Fucking once a month bleeding cunt.
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You think everyone's being bribed outta that wall money black-hole anon, hmm, same.
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>>768632162
That's a lot of the problem there. Stop tying enforcement's' hands. And all these overstayed visa's. We know where most of them fucking live!
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>>768632410
a lot of illegal immigrants aren't beaners packed into trucks like sardines, they're folks that come over on a legit student or work visa and then skip out when it runs out
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I am mexican. I live in mexico and I have a very successful life.(Working as an engineer, married, 2 cars, my own house etc.)

While I do approve the idea of building a wall (Because honestly, almost every person that doesn't have the brains or the dedication for college goes to the US looking for "EZ MONEIS"), I'm worried about what cartels will do next.

Recently, cartels have been losing money since it's getting harder to smug drugs into the US, and they are rampaging the country with robberies, kidnaping and extortion. Things will get though here, but I believe it's not fair for the US to keep housing our worst.
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>>768632016
That's a big issue in the US right now they are putting small well established job producers out of business because they are undercutting them at every turn. But that shit won't last. when the overhead exceeds the income the price always goes up.
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>>768632843
timestamp burritos
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Canada should build a wall too.
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One also thinks the saudis are very generous. With their stolen monies.
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>>768632627
Tunnels are already being mapped out. This is a waste of time, money, and resources - all for an unbelievably stupid idea. Then again, Trump knows fuck all.
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>>768627461
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>>768632917
I have tacos. You interested?
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>>768626558
>>>/pol/
You already have a board
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>>768632353
I think it's because they essentially live in a state of perpetual insecurity and they just can't imagine anyone being anything other. The best they can manage is to assume someone else's insecurity is about something different but they cannot imagine anyone not being constantly insecure about something. It's what happens when a person is raised to not think for themselves or develop critical thinking or analytical skills. This is also largely why they cannot manage much better than canned arguments from their favorite blogs and twitter feeds and why they almost invariably resort to ad homs and/or strawmanning at the slightest challenge to their programming.
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>>768633030
nothing less than tamales
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US immigration laws should be the exact same as Mexico's.
The EXACT same:

1. Speak the native languarge.
2. Be a professional or an investor - no unskilled workers allowd.
3. No right to vote. Ever.
4. Not ever be able to hold any political office of any kind.
5. Can't be a burden to taxpayers - no welfare, no foodstamps, no healthcare, no other government assitance of any kind.
6. Not be allowed to protest - no demonstrations, no political organized, no badmouthing the president or the nation's policies.
7. If you come in illegally, you will be hunted down and jailed. Even private citizens can arrest you.

These are MEXICO'S laws and policies.
We should just do the exact same thing they do.
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>>768632843
Trumptard detected. Nice try.
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>>768632843
All I could read after the third word was, aye ahso ih gringos he a so fast they chase hi shadow and they never catch him.
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>>768633017

Please tell me that's real, because that's exactly the type of shit I'm talking about, or to put it in such a way, life, uh, finds a way.
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>>768633072
Well, tamales is more of a winter meal. It's a little complicated to get them at this time of the year (Although I'm sure there must be someone selling some outside a convenience store near my workplace)
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>>768631175
If you read it, fucking cite it faggot.
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>>768626558
As long as they are trying something...

I definitely wouldn't say it's the best answer, and probably not even the right one.
But hell, if trump can actually keep the costs as low as he promises, then it might be worth a shot.
Then again, it's just a fucking wall.
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>>768632843
>No creo que los gringos merezcan sufrir tanto pobrecitos
>No sabes que el 90% de las armas de los carteles les fueron vendidas por estados unidos
>La gran mayoria de las victimas de la guerra contra el narco murieron por balas estadounidenses
Ya ve a chuparsela a tus amos del norte puton
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It's an open secret. The only reason why liberals like illegal immigration is that whenever they get amnesty, that's millions of more voters.
It's just importing humans as a voting bloc. nothing else.
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>>768633174
https://www.cnn.com/2012/10/31/us/mexico-border-jeep/index.html
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>Fence to stop drug smuggling
>It has gaps
>Actually it's for people
>It has posts at the top to loop ropes on
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>>768632843
http://www.southcom.mil/MEDIA/NEWS-ARTICLES/Article/1518510/coast-guard-offloads-6-tons-of-cocaine-in-port-everglades/

Why not dump this in the sea.^
The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter James takes a moment for a group photo before offloading in Port Everglades Thursday, May 10, 2018 approximately 6 tons of cocaine worth an estimated $180 million. The cutter James was involved in six interdictions along with other Coast Guard cutters resulting in the 6 tons of cocaine interdicted at sea in the Eastern Pacific Ocean. U.S. Coast Guard photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Lally
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>>768632120
the federal government doesn't benefit from sales tax or property tax faggot that is a state tax. The only tax an illegal may pay is income tax and if they are paying income tax then they are guilty of identity theft and fraud because you can't pay that shit without a tax id number i.e. social or work visa. Also most illegal workers are 1099 or cash under the table and don't pay taxes right out of their check and never pay the taxes at the end of the year.
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>>768633127
We already do most of this. The US has no national language though.
The protest thing is bullshit though.
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>>768633174
yes it's real but the context is different.
that's a picture of a car stuck on top of a fence and they needed to bring out equipment to get the idiots down
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>>768632822
~60% are from Mexico. And it's hard to find concrete numbers, but it looks like about 50% (of all nations) are visa. So yeah, a lot of them are coming over like sardines.
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>>768633296
Las armas son americanas, pero las personas que las dispararon son mexicanos.
Mexicanos matando mexicanos. ¿Y la culpa es de los gringos?
Ve a chuparsela a AMLO pinche chairo mierdero
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>>768633004
What's the logical answer here?
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>>768633490
Pues lo mismo se puede decir de las drogas, ellos las compran, ellos las consumen, pero nosotros tenemos la culpa? Deja de ver solo lo que te conviene puto chilango malinchista
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>>768633624
"blumpf"
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>>768632138
and ten you plug those 10% and when 90%of the border is walled, the other 10% will be the worst, least desirable rout one could imagine
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>>768633127
This.
Plus throw in some other policies such as mandatory STD and health screening. At their expense and prior to crossing. Licensed US physician and facility only.
Zero criminal record.
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>>768633716
Yep, the opium war.
>Claims the opium as own sends it to big pharma to be processed and purified, so grade 10/10 for celebs types, lol...
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>>768633379
I know this. I was trying to get that lib to specify what his "75% pay taxes" comment meant.
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>>768633200
random church tamales sold outside gas stations were always worth a couple bucks when I was down in texas.
I'm imagining it's much the same further south
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1. Build walls
2. Start wars
3. ????
4. Profit
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>>768633929
I told you to look it up yourself Billy ;)
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>>768633738
No cawse you make the libewals cwy weal tears.

>tl;dr fuck your ignorant liberal agendas
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Why is trump waifu really in hospital... aye anon, did you find out?
>Beginning to crack.
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>>768633997
It is. But with extra "flavors" and the chance of drinking atole
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>>768633929
The fuck are you talking about, retard? You didn't tell me anything.
>>768630805
>>768632120
>>768633379
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Did Q question it, haha.
Code words and riddles anon.
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>>768633389
Sure if by most you mean almost none.
The only political office an immigrant cannot hold is the Executive office.
Social services such as food stamps and wellfare are one of the main arguing points against immigration. Don't act like an ignorant twat and suddenly say they aren't allowed to receive it.
Half the reason the left wants so many immigrants is for voting purposes. Again, ignorant twat.
Really, if you're going to bother replying, don't think you can get away with bald faced lies and you won't get called on it. You're either being deliberately deceitful or you are the dumbest cunt I've read in a while.
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>>768633389
We do almost none of this. Where do you live?
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>>768626685
This is probably the future we're going to get.
And I guarantee you are not going to be on the prosperous side of the fence.
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>>768634774
Kinetic bombardment was always my favorite.
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>>768634123

AIDS?
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>>768634988
inb4 she got it from Pence
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>>768634457
We have no national language so there is one.
If you are gonna immigrate here you have to be skilled or have family
You have to be a citizen to vote
You have to be a citizen to hold a political office.
You have to be a citizen to get welfare
That protest one is dumb
And being in the US illegally is a crime.

So there you go, 5 out of 7.
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>>>/pol/171657986
>>>/pol/171658337
>>>/pol/171659547

/pol/ is getting bullshit wall threads because of the wall discussion /b/ and this entire site.
on /pol/ they aren't discussing the actual wall under construction or Trump's plans for a secure border.
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Mexican here.
I'm not against the wall, yes it MAY help illegal immigration but being rational and honest, I've been an immigrant myself (legally) and so I learnt the language and culture and really hated seeing Latinos asking for coupons or a simple burger at McDonalds in Spanish, I mean, if you're gonna try, at least do it good.
I respect the law and the culture just I want Mexican laws and culture to be respected and yes, being honest Mexico hasn't been nice either to southern countries illegal immigrants.
Things must be done RIGHT, I don't believe that a wall is the cheapest way but I don't have any better ideas.
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>>768636277
Reread the post several back. Anon was saying we need to follow Mexico's lead and disallow all those things for all immigrants, not just the illegal ones.

>We have no national language so there is one.
Nonargument
>If you are gonna immigrate here you have to be skilled or have family
Picking grapes or painting a wall is considered 'skilled'. Should be no degree, no entry
>You have to be a citizen to vote
True
>You have to be a citizen to hold a political office.
False, states are allowed to permit legal immigrant non-citizens to hold office.
>You have to be a citizen to get welfare
Very false. There are a multitude of wellfare benefits available to immigrant non citizens
>That protest one is dumb
Says you
>And being in the US illegally is a crime.
Not always, and when it is it is typically a misdemeanor
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>>768631175
Illegal immigrants pay more than that in taxes
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>>768637934
I didn't know we taxed the cartels
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>>768638034
not an argument
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>>768636828
>A wall thread on the board it belongs in specifically for politics
Imagine that
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>>768626558
Every country has borders. People are stupid.
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>>768631350
Are you sure about that, have you done your research?
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>>768626835
Less insecure than you. We actually know what we want.
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>>768638222
>>>/pol/171660142
>>>/pol/171661221
still no discussion of the wall projects scheduled to begin soon or the Trump wall
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>>768627828
You're a monument to idiocracy, and brainwashing.
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>>768632353
>Protectors of societies
>Builds an arbitrary wall instead of facing the issue to resolve it.
This problem will persist, wall or not.
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If walls are so good then how come so many people die in Attack on titan
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>>768637934
No, that's the discrepancy, after they pay taxes.
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>>768638632
Because it's in the script.
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>>768638632
2/10
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>>768637934
8,000 each.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/record-135-billion-a-year-for-illegal-immigration-average-8-075-each-25-000-in-ny
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>>768638572
If it weren't for the damn spanish, and French Mexico wouldn't be such a hell hole.
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>>768638531
You could be the same thing
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>>768629593
If you don’t believe it, here’s a website for you to look into. (I know you wont cause you’re a closed minded pussy)
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>>768638912
I could, but I'm not.
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>>768638770
>if it weren't for the AIDS and meth smile that hooker would be totally bareback fuckable
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>>768638966
That's a pretty far reach. Fucking moron.
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>>768627828
>almost every country is racist except US
gg
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>>768638770
Well I don't deny you but if it weren't for English and Irish, United States would be still full of natives just as Mexico would.
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>>768639122
What does that have to do with anything?
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>>768639171
Ummm... I don't know, weren't you the one who first said that Mexico would be a hellhole without the French and Spanish? Or am I wrong in some way?
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>>768639336
You have no idea what I'm talking about do you? What country do you live in?
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>>768638397
https://www.quora.com/Does-Mexico-have-a-wall-on-its-southern-border
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>>768639026
Get over yourself. If you think Spanish is what makes Mexico a shit hole then I seriously question if you've been there or if you have if you've been anywhere other than the tourist hubs. Yeah, they keep those relatively presentable even though they still tell you to not drink the water. Know why that is? Because their infrastructure is complete dogshit. Their laws are all but meaningless because their politicians and law enforcement are most corrupt. Their sanitation generally rivals that of the nastiest portable toilet. There was a reason a spent so much of my youth driving across the border to that hellhole, and it wasn't to feel safe or healthy. But you just go ahead and enjoy your delusions. Dipshit
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>>768639568
people have always known that Mexico doesn't enforce it's southern border.
they either force migrants on into the US (effectively) or they deport them. deportations from Mexico have gone way up in recent years
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>>768639807
Whatever you stupid britbong. Maybe instead of spouting your shit you should do a little research.
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>>768639506
How does it affect from which country I am? The only way is me being from a third world which then I wouldn't even have Internet to be here.
I've followed your tags and know what the whole thread is about, I'm not against you but if you're going to say that Mexico would be a hellhole well... then you would be an Irish living in Ireland or English living in England and native americans would be... well Americans, don't you think?
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>>768639807
The French made it shit not the Spanish.
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>>768639941
Obviously it does because you have no idea what you're even talking about. I can see through your shit.
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>>768640083
You're the one that's been posting longer on this thread tho. Tag after tag.
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>>768639941
No you didn't. I said like 3 things. I just came in.
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>>768640160
You're fucking delusional. I posted my first comment by saying the French and Spanish made Mexico shit.
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>>768639928
>driving across the border into Mexico
>britbong
Goddamn, I'm sorry, you're like legit retarded, aren't you. I'll back up, you just let me know which part of what I said tripped you up. Was it the part where I indicated that I frequented Mexico via road trips? Or maybe it's the part where I know what I'm talking about because I went there so often. You still confused there, princess? All caught up now?
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>>768626558
Costs us billions, cuts through privately owned land, citizens living on the border saying it isn’t a solution, who is this shit for? Trumpkins in the Midwest who don’t understand the cartels have been digging drug tunnels for decades? This is a load of shit and you’re kidding yourself if you think this is actually a solution to anything.
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this is completely meaningless distraction from the fact that this will all 404 leaving /pol/ with bullshit threads that undermine the idea of our secure border
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>>768640360
What? I didn't say anything about driving across a border.
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>>768640011
The fact that it's shit makes it shit, not the fuckin languages
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>>768640252
Well sorry then, not my problem to know who is who, I just followed the tags but still, if that's your first and only post well... it's not the best one to start to say something.
I mean yeah, Mexico is a shithole, everybody knows that but all of America (North, Central and South were conquered by Europe at it's first so...)
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>>768640451
Language? I'm talking about the fucking war you dumb ass. French PEOPLE
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>>768640411
>this
Fix your board /pol/lacks we are trying to do the same here
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>>768640546
The. War. The war that happened 160 fuckin years ago. THAT is why you think it's a shit hole...? Goddamn, it made more fuckin sense when it sounded like you were trying to blame it on language. I'm actually docking you another 25 IQ points from what I was originally guessing you to be at.
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>>768640879
What do I care what a brain dead fuck face thinks?
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>>768640546
Lol Wut?
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>>768641056
Read a history book.
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>>768640973
You clearly don't, but then you're also an utter simp that thinks a century and a half isn't enough time for a country to get it's shit in order well after the end of the industrial era. Stay stupid, anon. You wear it well.
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>>768641233
What you blathering about? You're not making any sense.
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>>768641217
Youre like strait up autist right?
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>>768641393
No I'm not a European.
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>>768641452
I’ll take that as a yes then
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>>768641503
Probably also take a bag of paint chips for a snack too I bet
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>>768641620
If I were as retarded as you I probably would but nah.
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>>768626558
We call them hate america leftists.
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>>768630716
they also have the best cocaine (I got two buddies who are coasties).
go figure
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>>768626558
this is the existing wall, built back in the early 2000's.

>there's a wall already but retardlicans didn't know that.
>seriously
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>>768629551
caption plus picture, people will believe you no matter what
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>>768627828

stupid fuck. why are they our problem? they've got a country to be responsible for them.
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>>768626685
Borders are in your mind you fucking faggot
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>>768643102
>Borders are in your mind
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And can all you white skinned immigrants go back to where you came from too. I want to hunt buffalo not work in a casino.
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>>768643187
kek
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>>768643517
In fact, mexicans are more americans than white english inmigrants
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>>768629551
This sort of retarded comment makes me want to side with genocidal white nationalists.
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>>768643187
Zozzle
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>>768643517
I want to drink buffalo beer and still blame all my problems on white people*
Fixed that for you.

>>768643737
WTF I hate white ppl now
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fun fact long ago every city had a wall around it then a man came with his superior technology and made walls obsolete and people stopped building them because they didnt stop shit and were a waste of money
>that man was genghis khan in 1200
ladder technology has really advanced in 800 years
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>>768644387
he didn't take the walls of Constantinople
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>>768633490
Whatchu say bout the ALAMO boy?
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I am from Germany and I tell you what.
Build this wall!
If not possible protect your country even with deadly force!
I know what I am talking about.
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>>768644565
how right you are that wall didnt stop a bunch of guys who got their shit kicked in by genghis khan like 200 years later
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>>768644665
You are from Germany
A wall is only in the mind, its really not there!
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>>768628445
That's an abstract kind of wall.
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BRB building drone based illegal immigrant delivery service empire.
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>>768626558
Less wrong than stupid, given that most illegal immigrants came in on airplanes and are here on expired visas.
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the day has come where /b/ is more capable than /pol/ at debating a topic logically.
we are doomed. what killed /pol/?
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>>768643102
>>768644665
To
>>768644814
This.
The thing is- its just a symbolic gesture, thats all it takes to get a hurtling buttload of blue collar working population actually doing a better job elsewhere in the economy simply because of the significantly visible and real representation of something they mentally wanted, that would increase the frequency of blue collars getting dopamine hits from the news while this wall is actually being physically built.
>public sector functions considerably better mood wise
>increase in economic turnover
>so-and-so is going to make everything alright in the end
>The wall is necessary.
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Just a note from history. Capitalist countries build walls to keep people out. Communist countries built walls to keep their people in. If enough immigrants come in and by demographic voting patterns eventually finally turn the USA into a communist country the communist government will finally finish the wall to keep everyone in
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The real problem is that the cartels have been allowed to run the entire country of Mexico. Everyone is in their pockets and they have people across the country and no one will stop them. Instead of fixing their own country, Mexicans have opted to run away to America. Those that do stay and try to fight are killed brutally. It's like a post-apocalyptic warzone down there. Even saying something bad about the cartel will get you killed down there.
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>>768645457
but then when it's completed and nothing fucking changes you'll have a large population of disillusioned and bitter blue collar workers realizing they've just been fucked over. Better hope for a dem to be in charge after it's built so there's someone to shift the blame to
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>>768646028
>when it's completed and nothing fucking changes
the change is there will be a wall on the border and the cartels can't run the place. the improvement will be obvious
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>>768646028
You got that right, flip/flop. By then another thing will be able to take over the public’s thirst for mental reinforcements and I think that is going to be the USA’s fledging private sector space programs. The shit that is being developed right now for deployment as early as 2030s is going to bend a lot of Working Joe’s minds, in a good way.
The trick is to keep shifting the goal posts so that the bad stuff doesn’t really have a significant impact in the grand scheme of things.
>USA reorientation in world power and helping the world by improving everything for as many as possible i.e enabling Arabs to generate almost free electricity with modern nuclear, and them to be able to eloquently join the M.A.D table.
The free energy means some dumb shit farmer can potentially raise offspring that could potentially invent something new that benefits everyone as well as a consequence of not being burdened by having to look after the most basic things such as clean water and power for their iPhones and newfangled fashionable electric vehicles.

Could and should be a win-win
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>>768646229
The cartels will still be there, their C&C groups don't come over the border via land. They fly in on active visas because the US is also corrupt as fuck. The only things it will do is waste money and ensure the cartels start hiring US poors for their US operations instead of having them smuggled in like they do now. (Or they'll shift all their human smuggling activities to air and water ways.)

It would be both cheaper AND more effective to send the troops in to deal with the cartels.
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