Why doesn't anyone believe me anymore?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Why doesn't anyone believe me anymore?
You fuck'd up.
>>768590272
Terry Gilliam made a lot of high profile box office flops.
Thats why.
>>768590272
It might be my fault. Sorry.
-Original God
>>768590272
>Why doesn't anyone believe me anymore?
Pediatric AIDS, nuclear weapons, Jews... do you have any real power? Why are you so useless? You may as well be a mod on /b/...
>>768590592
I didn't do that; you did that.
>>768590669
It was meant to be.
>>768590676
Fix it, Mr. Meeseeks.
>>768590736
It's like you don't even know what to do with all that.
>>768590872
>>>768590736 (You)
>It's like you don't even know what to do with all that.
Maybe A SIGN once in a while, like having Hillary Clinton burst into flames while on stage during a debate.
>>768590272
neck yourself atheist cuck
>>768590272
Don't worry. I'm changing that. Just stay out of my way, bucko.
>>768590924
She's already hot.
>>768590978
I would if I could.
>>768591003
Sounds hopeless if you ask me.
>>768591003
>conning millennials will change things
sure kid
>>768591127
You know, Carl Jung once said "the reason modern men can't see God is because they don't look low enough"
Modern people have become too sophisticated and too complex to just act out the rituals of religion.
We have to understand why we are doing them and explicitly state them.
This was actually Jean Piaget's life work. Remedying and uniting religion and science.
One of his experiments was actually just watching children play. Oh God, this is so smart. He watched children play games and from those games a morality would form. Then over a set of games a META morality would form common across the set of all games!
Religion is a lot like that.
>>768590272
is zizek your messenger?
Everybody does, especially atheists. You should see how angry they get at you, God.
>>768590272
he stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>768591339
>Religion is a lot like that.
Where the games involve throwing people off of buildings for being gay. Fun!
>>768591283
I'm not conning anyone actually. Quite the contrary. I have a Patreon that I don't even advertise and people give me money. I don't have ads on my YouTube videos.
The great thing is the Social Justice Warrior types just hate this. They can't stand it.
They put out a video to try to prevent me speaking and I get more followers. They let me speak, and I get more followers. It's really funny.
>>768590272
who are you ?
>>768591465
>I was only 19 years old.
>I loved Žižek so much, I had all the books and films.
>I pray to Žižek every night, thanking him for the knowledge he's given me. “Žižek is love” I say, “Žižek is life."
>My dad is Jordan Peterson. He hears me and calls me a cultural marxist. I knew he was just jealous of my devotion to Žižek.
>I called him a pseudo-intellectual.
>He hits me and sends me to sleep.
>I'm crying now and my face hurts.
>I lay in bed, really cold. I feel something warm...
>It's Žižek! I was so happy.
>He whispers in my ear an obscene joke.
>As I laugh he grabs me with his slavic hands, and puts me on his lap. I'm ready.
>I am all ears for Žižek.
>He penetrates my mind and expands my view on the current predicament.
>It hurts so much, but I do it for Žižek. I can feel my neoliberal illusions shattering and my eyes starting to water as i am picturing future authoritarian regimes in the west.
>I want to revitalize the left.
>He sniffs a mighty sniff as he fills my young mind with his wisdom.
>My dad walks in.
>Žižek looks him straight in the eye and says,
>"We are approaching a catastrophe."
>Žižek crushes him in a debate and leaves through my window.
>Žižek is love. Žižek is life.
>>768591465
>I'm not conning anyone actually
You are though. You're taking people's money and giving nothing of value in exchange.
>>768591339
Seems clever enough.
>>768591362
I can neither confirm it nor deny it.
>>768591447
Newfag
>>768591458
Some people are just not fun to play with.
>>768591465
Post link.
>>768591504
The omega.
>>768591534
Very awe inspiring.
>>768591559
Content, maybe?
>>768591701
>Content, maybe?
Worthless content.
>>768591730
Token worthless content, maybe?
>>768590272
Cause you ain't been around for a loooong time
>>768591811
I know what happened anyway.
>>768591458
To lay all of humanity's sins at the feet of religion is just foolish.
Our entire western society is predicated on the transcendent rights of the individual. That there is something within you that is so transcendent and touched by a creator and inalienable that not even the Law can infringe upon it.
It's such a clever idea.
This is what I don't like about the radical atheists like Sam Harris. They presume that without religion everyone would live perfectly rationally and empathetically.
And I have to ask...Why?
Where is the irrationality of me living exactly how I want and getting exactly what I want all of the time? Living like a psychopath essentially.
It's a very rational way of living to get what you want all of the time without consequences. Every man for himself and the devil takes the hindmost...
>>768591898
Who decides who gets to have it?
>>768591559
>and giving nothing of value in exchange
I get hundreds of letters everyday...long letters detailing how people have sorted their lives out with the self authoring suite or listening to my talks.
Those people have received something of value.
And it really speaks to the character of humanity.
You know everyone said EBAY would go bankrupt when it first started. I would write you a check that bounced and you would send me junk. But that's not what happened. People actually were reciprocal. Now if you have less than a 98% seller rating there is something wrong with you.
>>768591898
>To lay all of humanity's sins at the feet of religion is just foolish.
But to lay some of humanity's sins at the feet of religion is correct.
>Our entire western society is predicated on the transcendent rights of the individual.
It isn't.
>It's such a clever idea.
Not really no.
>They presume that without religion everyone would live perfectly rationally and empathetically.
Sam Harris doesn't presume any such thing.
>It's a very rational way of living to get what you want all of the time without consequences.
False. It's in your own selfish best interests to promote a society in which people look out for one another instead of constantly trying to get one over on others.
Ill fucking kill you if I'd see you anywhere near me
>>768592146
>I get hundreds of letters everyday
From people you conned.
>>768592146
Per se.
>>768592162
Somebody got their jimmies rustled.
>>768592179
I love you.
>>768592280
Not really, I just find this guy's popularity bizarre and his followers brainwashed.
>>768592410
Figures, I .
>>768592162
>It's in your own selfish best interests to promote a society in which people look out for one another instead of constantly trying to get one over on others.
But if there aren't any agreed upon transcendent meta values in a society, what is keeping that society together?
>But to lay some of humanity's sins at the feet of religion is correct.
Sure. No system is ever perfect. But to throw away an entire system on which we've built our entire civilization on is just ridiculous.
Once you've blown out the sub structure of a civilization, it's just left floating in air.
>>768592410
Maybe you are jealous of him.
>>768592410
Why exactly do you think that?
>>768592510
I'll admit that he's a brilliant con artist.
>>768592542
Because I've listened to him talk and then witnessed how his followers engage anyone who disagrees with him.
>>768592583
I think that you may have a point.
> atheists like Sam Harris presume that without religion everyone would live perfectly rationally and empathetically.
Bullshit.
Without religion assholes will still be assholes and dumbfucks will still be dumbfucks.
But rationality might have a better chance overall, if little children don't get indoctrinated to hold fairytales as real.
>>768592491
>But if there aren't any agreed upon transcendent meta values in a society, what is keeping that society together?
There are values that we agree upon as a society, but they aren't transcendent. They boil down to preferences that we share.
>But to throw away an entire system on which we've built our entire civilization on is just ridiculous.
Except our entire civilization is not in fact built on religion (unless of course you go with Peterson's definition of religion in which case everything is religion, which is just one of his many nonsense statements).
>>768590272
I didn't believe in you either. But now that I've seen your post here on 4chan, that's all the evidence I need. How can anyone deny you now? You couldn't have started this thread if you didn't exist.
Atheists btfo.
>>768592870
That truth is that which is useful and that truth which corresponds with reality would be nested within your truth, that anyone who doesn't act like a psychopath believes in God, that secular morality cannot work, etc. etc.
>>768593016
>that anyone who doesn't act like a psychopath believes in God
Well they certainly act that way.
You've been completely surrounded in a society predicated upon Judaeo - Christian values your entire life. The values of which have been learned inside of you and to properly function in this society and to thrive in it, you enact those values in your daily life to fit in.
The idea of a hero is common across all sorts of stories. And then a picture of a meta hero comes into existence. Someone who is all seeing and can speak magical words.
The idea of the hero makes it's way into people and they begin to value that type of person.
The meme makes it's way into biology and evolution because now it's not the biggest strongest man who gets to breed, it's the most meta heroic.
It's something like a Baldwin loop.
>That truth is that which is useful and that truth which corresponds with reality would be nested within your truth
I don't remember saying that exactly.
> if there aren't any agreed upon transcendent meta values in a society, what is keeping that society together?
I don't know if I agree to give that point validity, but I'll play along:
You can't help that in modern society the next person you might meet on the street has acompletely different view on transcendent stuff than you.
(Unless you want to start a holy war, and eradicate all heathens(TM) of course)
So the ONLY acceptable solution is to put everything on a strictly scientific basis.
Transcendental beliefs may be anyones private thing, but "In God we trust" on government money and crosses in government buildings is Evil.
> throw away an entire system on which we've built our entire civilization
Oh no. Please, not the false claim, that our civilization was somehow built on religion. Today's private freedom and fundamental human rights were fought hard for by Enlightenment, AGAINST the resistance of the churches.
>>768593402
>Well they certainly act that way.
They act exactly the way they would act if they didn't believe in God. Your claim that not believing in God would necessarily result in psychotic behavior is false.
>You've been completely surrounded in a society predicated upon Judaeo - Christian values your entire life.
It isn't though. I would say the reverse is more true: that what are now considered Judaeo-Christian values are predicated on the values of society, which change over time.
>hero narrative
Classic example of bringing up an irrelevance.
>I don't remember saying that exactly.
Close enough for government work.
>>768590272
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
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>>768593433
>So the ONLY acceptable solution is to put everything on a strictly scientific basis.
The problem with this is a scientific basis shows you WHAT something is. But it doesn't orient your actions in the world or teach you how to act.
Kierkegaard has this problem with AI.
Here's an example. Let's say you happen across an open field. You know the exact dimensions and everything there is to know about what is in the field.
So you have literally billions, if not an infinite number, of ways that you could traverse through the field.
You have no hierarchy of action in the world. You only know what is and what isn't.
Humans had to act out many rituals before they understood the abstract lessons.
Sacrifice for example. Sacrificing something of value now for a better future. People killed many lambs and even other people before we understood that it could happen in our own day to day lives.
Same with the enlightenment.
It was a reaction to the organized churches still predicated upon the religious transcendental values
>>768593688
There are values in our society that have not changed for millennia. For example the sanctity of a mother and a child. It seems obvious to me that any society which does not value the mother and the child is a pathological society that eventually dies out for obvious reasons.
To say that values in society change with the wind is just ignorant. I'm sorry.
I would love to talk more, but I think I have to go now.
>>768592627
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iFi4p4QC44
Also, nothing like paying $10 for a personality quiz that you can get for free out of your sister's copy of Cosmo
>>768592198
What is the con, exactly?
>>768594239
>There are values in our society that have not changed for millennia.
Even if that were the case, I don't see how it would matter.
> For example the sanctity of a mother and a child. It seems obvious to me that any society which does not value the mother and the child
Except there's a difference between value and sanctity. We assign value to mothers and to children, but there is a limit to that value which has changed over time (in both directions)
>To say that values in society change with the wind is just ignorant.
To say that they don't is demonstrably false.
>I would love to talk more, but I think I have to go now.
Bye.
>>768594465
Self help rhetoric mixed with bizarre mysticism. It's not a con in the strictest sense, but he's taking your money and giving you things that are either obvious, irrelevant, or nonsense.
>>768593924
>>768594239
>>768593402
>>768592542
>>768592491
>>768592146
>>768591465
>>768591339
>>768591003
Jordan Peterson makes some interesting and valid points. But he also makes some severely flawed assumptions and rationalizations. I hope you don't worship the guy as a source for absolute truth of the human experience.
>>768590272
Answer me motherfucker,--> >>768593737
>>768594683
ignorant mutherfuckers will believe anything
>>768591730
Apparently not, as people are willing to pay.
Also, most of Peterson's good videos are from before the C16 shit
>>768593737
Phone died. I literally went offline for a half and hour and people are already throwing around the word "motherf*cker", like it ain't no thing no more.
>>768594683
I got all of his content for free. He doesn't even get YouTube ad revenue with me because I don't watch YouTube in my browser.
So he conned me into learning something for free and got nothing from me.
>>768594691
When he sticks to his bible stuff or his psychology he is riveting to listen to. Now he's weighing in on stuff like gender equality and universal basic income
>>768596046
>bible stuff or his psychology he is riveting to listen to.
If you're into that sort of thing. I just start zoning out because I don't care.
>>768596212
Well yeah. Interests differ. I find his religious interpretations (as psychological interpretations of the world before there was a formal psychology) to be a very interesting take on the Bible.
Economically he makes no sense. I should know, I have a master's degree in economics and he gets basic level stuff wrong.
>>768596475
Thank you.
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>>768590272
>>768595748
Why are you censoring the word "motherfucker",,
Motherfucker ?
>>768596046
>When he sticks to his bible stuff
yeah, but with things like atheism, he's completely missed the mark. He's fallen for the idea that, except for a few really horrible people, people who say their atheists aren't actually atheists. The problem with that is that his convoluted definition of atheism doesn't match with the one that essentially all atheists use. For someone who is as educated as he is, it's a pretty egregious error.
>>768598524
Yes, I agree. He has some wacky definitions for normal stuff that he only ever gives if pressed from the outside.
The one thing outside his area of expertise that I actually totally agree with him on is the post modernist invasion of western universities. Seen it happen every day of my studying, and I'm not even living in the Anglo sphere.
>>768598524
It doesn't help that his own definitions of God and religion are convoluted and lead to easy equivocation fallacies.
>>768598524
Fix it.
>>768598837
People have in discussions with him.
