American education
>>768571493
As a eurofag, I definitely agree with this.
History of muslim conquests and shit, sure. Religious life of a muslim, the fuck should I care?
Obviously, when you live in a country/states that teach-es God designed mankind, that becomes a bit hypocritical...
>>768571458
*triggered*
>>768571415
An average child should glance at the numbers 26 and 17, and immediately have "43" appear in their mind, NO thinking about it, NO puzzling over it, just smooth flow.
This educational system is designed so the slowest moron in the class will get the answer eventually. And everybody else will be that slow.
>>768572363
>An average child should glance at the numbers 26 and 17, and immediately have "43" appear in their mind,
So nice to get a viewpoint of a retard on 4chan.
I bet education speciallists would be amazed by how smart you are if you shared your ideas on education with them. You sure fucking know better how to do their job.
>>768572526
>education specialists
I hope to whomever you pray at night that you're not talking about OP's pic.
Those are retardation specialists.
>>768572599
>Those are retardation specialists.
Why? Because you said so? I am sorry, I am not really buying your credentials, anonymous retard on 4chan.
>>768571510
A shooter is coming! Quick! Push in your chairs!
>>768571415
the future is dark
>>768571510
>smoke um out
>>768571458
u wot m8
>>768572741
>anonymous retard on 4skin
Ironic.
We are ensuring that our generation still has jobs in 10 years. I don't find any problem with this.
>>768572836
>obstacles
>>768571847
Isn't it important to understand how people in the second biggest religion think?
>>768571458
Stupid fucking teacher, the kid is smarter.
>>768571493
This could be Sweden today minus the lawyer crap.
>>768571557
What fucking book is this?
>>768571458
Same handwriting, look at the "a"
>>768571415
Doesn't this literally take more work than just adding the numbers?
Then again I'm a brit so I guess I'm just too dumb for this eloquent american method
>>768576222
I agree, we learned first just to add the ones, then the tenths and it is ready.
>>768571539
>words have meaning
sure hope someone stormed out of that bullshit.
>>768571431
When the Catholic school is preparing for the fourth Reich
i just do 26 + 10 + 7
>>768571440
I'd fuck with the teacher and write out 5 pages long of unnecessary math just to prove a point
>>768571415
that seems really stupid when written like that, but it's a good and easy method. just solve some random equations in your head that way. faggots.
>>768575937
The problem is that it is only as important as the person reading, or doing sees it to be. For the most part it is retarded. Why should a non-muslim care about their practices? That should not be mandatory curriculum
>>768571493
Dumb faggot Christian retards no wonder Christianity is the America of religions. Fucking rape their souls with Satan's crusty dick
>>768576107
not even close are you high?
>>768571557
This should be required reading in order to use the interwebs
>>768577166
looks retarded why not doing simply 26+10+7
>>768571603
Necessary
>>768571557
what kind of book is that?
>>768577493
your mom looks retarded, try it or don't. i don't even
>>768571603
this can't be true
>>768572363
Dude I'm 25 and the number doesn't pop into my head I gotta think for like 2 seconds. Of course I'm retarded at math but that shit is so ass backwards it took me 5 minutes to just to figure out what the fuck they were trying to say.
>>768572363
>An average child should glance at the numbers 26 and 17, and immediately have "43" appear in their mind, NO thinking about it, NO puzzling over it, just smooth flow.
That's called being Asian Anon we're not all ching Chong ping pongs here
>>768577584
great comeback.. well with that kind of education I couldn't expect much more probably
>>768572836
If not they throw you out of the shelter as a sacrifice to the deities of guns that arrive to subdue the shooter. Then the blue clad gods of pepper spray and dumbfaggotry take turns raping the sacrifice till they are satisfied. Then they shoot a few desks, tase the class pet to death and off to save more murica people by beating them senseless
>>768571415
I have a masters degree in engineering and this shit makes almost no sense and would just confuse kids and make them not want to learn math.
>>768571474
Fucking gross.
My kids are going into school and this is the type of shit they make them do now. I am a chemical engineer and the way they do math now can make no fucking sense.
>>768577348
KNOW YOUR ENEMY YOU DUMB FAGGOT
>>768571539
>Words have meaning
>Whole slide is more or less meaningless gibberish
>>768576222
This is an example of whats called common core mathematics. Its an experimental teaching style that was brought into the mainstream some years ago due to concerns that kids are too procedural in their work without actually understanding the meaning of what theyre doing. The idea behind common core is to teach not just what operations like addition and multiplication do, but what they MEAN by showing different ways to breakdown numbers and equations.
However common core crashed and burned because as you said, its more work and its fucking over just about all the kids. Thankfully, common core is currently in the process of being phased out
>>768577415
Nope just american
>>768577584
What the fuck are you having a seizure man?
>>768577785
MURICA!!!!!!!
>>768571440
This doesn't even make fucking sense, I don't understand. She wants to make 10, but even the teacher ends with 13. How is that an answer? She should be forcibly made love to.
>>768577493
>>768576899
>>768576222
> not working it out as 20 + 10 then 6 + 4 (so carry the one) + 3
>>768577857
What do numbers MEAN
what is a 3????
Does it taste
Does it love
Does it have a soul
Who created the 3
What a magical mystery the existence of numbers are
Where did this 3 come from
Does 3 even exist
You can't see a 3
Only the symbol we use for 3
What does 3 look like
WHAT DOES IT MEEEEEEAAAAAAANNNNN
>>768578041
>forcibly made love to
New best way to say rape I'm stealing this phrase
>>768578075
Good man have a cookie
>>768577839
Whut
>>768578101
More like real world applications.
For example, kids know what perimeter is and how to find it. But when given an example of figuring out how much fencing is required to surround a yard, not a single kid realized that you only need three sides since the wall of the house covers one side of the yard.
At least in theory. In practice, it still falls flat on its face
>>768571493
As a Roman Catholic deacon and a religious scholar, I would argue that understanding other religions is an essential aspect of positive faith questioning, and even more so if you ever plan to proselytize.
>>768577785
i'm getting my masters degree in engineering rn and i use this method. not all the time though can't remember the last time i stopped and thought about adding something
>>768572363
The point is that eventually you will be dealing with numbers that are too large for easy calculation that way. At that point, having a mechanical pattern to simplify the process helps. Obviously, you teach small children the basics using simple, small numbers like in OP.
>>768571458
Literally this kills kid's imagination when it comes to solving problems. teacher should be FIYUD
>>768571474
this can't be..
>>768577604
I bet it is, in a sarcastic "you dumb fucks keep clogging up the express checkout, learn to count, its three hands"
>>768571415
Why are they teaching this?
>>768571415
Y'know, I did actually play games like this with numbers when I was learning arithmetic, but I arrived at them on my own. They made sense to me. You can't enforce that shit on people.
>>768578041
It's stupid, she's basically saying,
Take 3 from 5 and add it to 8, so you get:
8+(2+3) = 13
10+3 = 13
Then add it together:
10+3=13
=13
Fucking stupid way to do it, since we all have 5 fucking fingers.
>>768579288
Sorry, i meant take 2 from 5.. See the american way is just complicating it!
>>768579185
So that children can understand a simplified way of adding larger numbers mentally.
>>768579248
>You can't enforce that shit on people.
That's literally the definition and purpose of teaching.
>>768578541
Surprising that works for that ONE formula. But no where else.
By your logic:
66/16 = 6/1 = 6
>>768578493
But a fence extends beyond a house usually and you have to account for a gate.
>>768579414
Faggot
>>768579626
its a junior high math problem, not a college level architecture problem. They dont need to account for every tiny detail, but a fucking side of the house is a big one
>>768579378
>Take 2 step problem
>Turn into 15 step problem
Simplified, right you muricatard
>>768571415
I mean when i was growing up, I thought about math this way. It certainly helped, because I now have a degree in engineering and a well paying job. It is pretty stupid that they force the to think like this, but at the same time it shows how to work with numbers in a simpler sense.
>>768571440
>then add 3
>mfw
>>768579378
>That's literally the definition and purpose of teaching.
That's the definition of fascism you stupid ass
>>768579936
You create a structure/way of thinking using simple parts to teach children, and then you make them more complicated with larger numbers as the student gets more advanced. Did you think this was for adults? Are you retarded?
>>768580083
>teaching is fascism
Is this the true power... of American education? What are you guys now, 20th in math/reading?
>>768571539
>"science"
>>768579943
Well thats the whole thing about common core. A lot of people who grow up to have successful STEM careers were able to go through mental processes like these as kids. The liberal mindset is that theres no such thing as an incapable kid, just shitty teachers. So the whole idea here is to verbalize this type of mental math and teach it to stupid kids.
But as always, liberals are pitifully oblivious of how the real world works
>>768580101
Find a balance you cock Garggling lard assed tard and if you don't know what that means I'm not gonna waste time teaching common sense to frog with one tenth of a brain
>>768571415
wtf this can be solved so much easier
just change it to 36 + 7
>>768571415
Instead of just adding it?
>>768580179
How about I teach your face how to my fist>>768580179
>>768580381
At least I'm not confused by elementary school math assignments, burger
>>768580453
At least I passed elementary school math and didn't blow job my way through Mr Anderson's class like you did Eric you dirty slut
>>768580402
The point is that it's trying to teach young students how adding "works", not to just memorize what numbers go into what. The idea being that when you're doing more complex mathematics you have a stronger mental grasp of how to handle abstract elements. There are a bunch of STEMfags in here who can attest that they have mental processes developed like this (though at a higher level because they are not children).
>>768580630
Yea the problem is that higher level kids already do this, so the benefit to them is marginal at best. Middle and lower level kids though cant grasp this shit so they just crash and burn. Thankfully its on its way out
>>768580630
>The point is that it's trying to teach young students how adding "works"
Their human beings not chickens Christ even chickens know how addition works what kind of ultra crappy opinion do you have of people
>>768580179
For our K-12 public schools, sure. Our universities, however, shit on the majority of other schools in the entire world. Even the public universities. So yes, while overall the American education system is bad, we still produce the majority of college grads in the western world. Unless you count russia.
>>768578520
the fuck you doing on /b/?
>>768577557
Memetics. High level stuff.
>>768580993
Why wouldn't I count Russia.
>>768580927
I understand why American children are like autistic children when it comes to math, in Greece after the 6th year of school they teach you maths skills as if your going to become a fucking scientist
>>768580630
I think memorizing the numbers at first, like they did when I was a kid, just makes you grasp addition without you realizing it. Your brain should be able to add other numbers you haven't memorized...in a non abstract way. I don't know. I've always been able to add quickly. The make 10 from 8 and 5 method is actually confusing to me. I don't understand how it would help with higher mathematics. Though I am not a leader of children and I'm sure our leaders are always doing what's best for their people, so the 8+5=10 method must work. It's good for your brain to bypass early stages of logic and go right onto abstract nonsense
>>768571431
>Ava
ameriniggers
>>768581564
>and I'm sure our leaders are always doing what's best for their people
Nice meme, bro.
Do kids in the US really have to draw instagram pictures and learn memes? Or is this fake?
>>768571847
Have you considered that this might be taken from a class on world religions?
>>768571493
>That sheet has never came home
>has never came
>>768578520
understanding of religions, sure. But for people who can actually think about them, Not kids, like this paper seems to refer
>>768580386
Mah nigga
>>768580537
You're trying too hard
>>768582950
t. Eric
>>768579414
Faggot
So, 32 + 23 = 43
Zisk
>>768579414
Faggot
>>768579414
faggot
>>768571415
What I don't understand is why people try to argue how teaching this kind of maths more thoroughly somehow helps people. By the time you finish middle school, even if all of this shit was mostly alien to you, you'll be able to do this kind of math in your head anyway.
>>768584802
>you'll be able to do this kind of math in your head anyway.
That's the thing they're trying to skip.
The methods they teach you are what people develop on their own in their head, but unless they develop it on their own, it won't come as naturally.
>>768581539
Some people consider it to not be part of the āwestern worldā. Regardless, they have the highest education rate in the world (surprisingly).
>>768579030
But eventually the numbers you deal with are complicated enough that your pattern doesn't work and you're back to doing the equation on paper.
>>768584932
>People who are good at math come up with these methods and use them. As a result they are successful at math. We should teach everyone these methods, so everyone can be successful at math!
Is this their thinking? Because if it is then this doesn't mean anything. The people who come up with these rules on their own are successful because they came up with these rules on their own, not because they know these rules.
Math stops being explicitly about numbers like this in like 4th grade.
>>768581564
Kids won't be able to do that. You have to give them a baseline first. This way their brain adapts to the pattern and will see the pattern elsewhere too. This comes with practice.
>>768571458
The teacher is right. Just poor explanation
>>768571415
>>768571431
>>768571440
>>768571458
>>768571474
>>768571493
>>768571539
>>768571557
>>768571603
this the is the modern education children receive in America
im fucking disgusted
>>768585468
>Bi
Two
>>768575937
I agree in that I believe that if everybody understood the basics about the world's largest religions, there would be a much smaller stigma surrounding members of those religions.
The problem with this is that firstly, its very difficult to fit all of that information into one class.
I was schooled in scotland and we actually had a class titled religious studies. But we only got round to learning about Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism.
I would have loved to learn about Islam and Judaism but they just "didn't have time."
Secondly, you no doubt get the response listed above from a small percentage.
Unfortunately it only takes a few parents to get certain content that isn't required by law banned.
>>768571524
This is frighteningly simplistic and will breed ignorance and stupidity.
I fear for the future.
>>768571458
I don't get this... how did Marty eat more pizza than Luis? What's the apparent answer?
>>768585337
But the question is asking how Marty ate more, your image doesn't indicate that Marty ate more. It's showing he ate one less slice.
>>768585337
How fucking stupid are you?
>>768571415
You'd just do 20+10= 30 and 6+7 = 13 = 43 if it's not something you instantly know.
>>768585468
"straight: a man who only has romantic feelings about women"
Uhm... what about a straight woman? Or do those not exist over in PC land?
>>768585808
the bigger fraction is just basic logic, but the kid is right, if he eats 4/6 of a 72" pizza, it would be bigger than an entire fucking 8"...
>>768585337
Jesus christ are you this fucking retarded?
Another great piece of American Education
>>768585337
>>768585808
how can you not get how logical this is
>>768572363
I use this exact method to do mental arithmetic. I just wasn't taught to.
But obviously for larger numbers.
If you're adding 731 to 645 it's a lot easier imo to say
"Well,731 is 69 short of 800."
Once I figure out that 645 - 69 is 576 it's a lot easier to to add 800 to 576.
It's written in a way that hurts the brain. Yeah. I get that.
>>768585468
Is you live in northern europe, you get this too
>>768585996
i dont see anything out of the ordinary, what's your point?
>>768585877
Both pizzas were divided equally so it is clear that Luis ate one more slice than Marty.
>>768586174
.... you dont see a problem with the positive side of slavery?
>>768585996
Looks right to me, what's wrong with teaching both sides?
>>768586237
are you suggesting that slavery only had negative aspects?
>>768586237
Slavery gets shit done, just look at the pyramids.
That's what my phyiscs teacher told us.
>>768585996
No responsibility to make your own decisions
Guaranteed food, water, and shelter
Job security
Learn catchy folk tunes on the job
>>768586240
>>768586266
i gues you 2 are american after all
>>768586266
Are you from Louisiana?
>>768586054
Well this could be a possible answer since it doesn't specifie the size of the pizzas
>>768586226
Where does it say that? The question just asks how is 4/6 of something greater than 5/6 of something else. The answer is what the kid wrote.
The idiot teacher (and you) says it is not possible.
>>768586054
Because that's what the boy said, and the teacher said he was wrong. Which means she had a different answer. I'm asking what that answer was, retard.
>>768585337
>Implying more slices equals bigger pizza
Holy fuck my brain go home Anon you're literally drunk right now and can't make number thinking's in your thought place
>>768586388
New York, actually.
Guy was a lad.
>>768586340
im not american and i'm offended
even thought slavery was an overall dick move, you cant deny that cheap labor helped america grow
>>768572363
I always round up to the next ten and subtract the difference when im done.
So 27 and say 17. Id round either of the two up to 30 or 20 and then subtract at the end. So 27 and 17 is then 27 and 20, 47 minus three is 44. So then 27 and 17 is 44.
Am i retarded or does anyone else do this
>>768585337
No the teacher isn't right.
The question is flawed since it allows for multiple interpretations.
One interpretation is that: the pizzas are the same size, hence it is impossible.
Another interpretation is: nothing is said about the size of the pizzas, hence martys pizza must be bigger in size.
>>768586394
>>768586412
there is no other answer double retard
she obviously got the names mixed up because she's retarded too
>>768585337
The teacher is technically wrong - the problem DOES NOT state if the two pizzas are the same size, therefore the child answering the problem made the assumption that Marty COULD HAVE ate "more pizza" (not more slices) because Marty could have a LARGE pizza and Luis had a SMALL pizza. Problem also doesn't state if "more pizza" means "more ounces of pizza"...
>>768586434
I was implying they were the same size divided by the same number
>>768571458
this teacher is female
>>768586226
It's almost physically impossible to be this dumb so I assume you're trolling.
It's like the 'Steel is heavier than feathers' video.
>>768585953
In the land of math this makes sense. In reality the officer asks you to say the alphabet backwards
>>768585953
AMEN
>>768586484
I do something like that when doing math in my head
>>768586484
I say you're retarded because it shouldn't be necessary for you to do that. Your years of basic education should allow you to add the two 7's, then carry the 1 to make 43. And even then, at this point, you should be able to just look at it and 'see' the answer without doing any mathematical progression.
>>768579414
>formula
That's not a formula.
>>768585891
>13 = 43
>>768585337
>>768586643
even if they were, read the question more carefully
if they were the same size luis would have eaten more
>>768586686
>steel is heavier than feathers
And water is wet, your point?
>>768586127
Or you don't do it like an aspy and just add 700+600 then 31+45.
>>768586340
>Is mad because no qt negress sex slave
>>768586412
The question was "how is this possible". The answer is "this is possible if Marty had a much larger pizza". The kid is correct, the teacher is wrong. Q.E.D.
>>768586800
I guess that implies you haven't seen the video. It's specifically the "kilogram of steel is heavier than a kilogram of feathers" joke by Limmy.
>>768586773
We're working mod 2
>>768577681
> ching Chong ping pong
You think Chinese is funny? I guess you must be fluent in it, then.
>>768586498
Exactly.
>>768586862
>implying you need a video to tell you that steel weights more than feathers
>>768586686
I meant to say the teacher was right when he said that Luis ate more(implying that the pizzas were the same size)
>>768587042
Anon stop and think
>>768587070
but that's not what she said, seriously why doesnt anybody read anymore
>>768586800
A gallon of milk is more than a gallon of turds
>>768587077
Right back at you.
Have yo literally never encountered steel/feathers?
>>768587145
are you seriously trying to say that a kilogram of steel weighs more than a kilogram of feathers?
>>768571510
So thats where all the money went.... we just had a teacher strike a couple weeks ago because of teacher's low pay.
>>768571415
retarded education for retarded people
>>768587251
Holy shit you idiot, it's incredibly obvious that it is.
This is the difference between book smart and street smart.
>>768587124
I know that the teacher said 5/6 is greater than 4/6(which is stupid) but he was not wrong when he said that Luis ate more. Again, implying that the pizzas were the same size
>>768587042
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHA I'm seriously pissing my self fuck you that's kekistan gold right there
>>768587305
you see, nobody is this retarded
it is now obvious you are baiting and you had me going there
well done sir
>>768579414
faggot
>>768587305
Ok you can stop throwing gallons of bait in the water the fish are full
>>768587145
I've literally never held a kilogram of steel in one hand and a kilogram of feathers in my other, no.
>>768586451
Your country also had slavery
>>768587332
5/6 IS greater than 4/6 (which is not stupid)
also the kid never said Luis ate more
>>768587395
Cheers.
But on a splitting hairs note, their standard forms have different densities, so different volumes. Because they have different volumes, each molecule is at a different distance to the Earth's center than the other. As a result, the net force of gravity on each material (when comparing 1 kg of each) will be different. It will be negligibly different, but technically their weights will be different.
The mass is the same, both are 1 kg, but the weights will be negligibly different.
>>768587568
i mean, a lot of countries had slavery at one point or another
what's your point
>>768571415
What the actual fuck? I didn“t understand the "method".
>>768587671
Im sensing some moral superiority on your part, as if America's slavery was somehow special
>>768587599
Okay ,i messed upthe numbers but i point is that the teacher said Luis ate more, not the kid
>>768587542
This is the comment of the sad person who managed to lose an argument on the internet
>>768587788
im not saying that at all,
my original point was that slavery had negatives and positives, doesnt matter what kind or where in time/space
>>768587991
Ah, okay bud.