Why do they not start teraforming mars now, and in a few hundred years when its an actual live able planet, then send humans? How will rockets have enough space to carry water/food/supplies for 12 months of space flight there and back let alone for mars exploration. What's the point when we have robots there now?
Good luck getting 267600000 liters of water up there
Basic Main Reasons
1. Its too cold.(Too hostile for good bacteria to thrive)
2. Very thin atmosphere ( Cooked by solar radiation and no heat will remain in planets atmosphere.)
3. Low gravity ( Human Deformities)
>>768564292
Exactly that's what I was thinking. Something you never hear Musk or Nasa talk about. Why they not talk about bringing water?
>>768564006
Our govts are too busy and poor from sending money to kikes
>>768564407
But how do we teraform mars? is it possible or a pipe dream?
>>768564411
this is bait, i know, but the plan is to direct icey asteroids to mars so that they melt and create an ocean.
>>768564488
Why are we doing that anyway? why do we not just kill all the kikes so we don't have to pay those lizard rats?
>>768564407
And 4, the magnetic field is way too weak to shield effectively against solar radiation
>>768564499
Pipe dream for now.
We have not the technology.
Mars is just too far away from the sun to keep warm
>>768564528
But Mars has a frozen ocean
>>768564531
Bc they own our govt and financial system. They are establishing their Zionist oligarchy so when we destroy this planet they will be the only ones able to adapt or leave
>>768564006
no magnetic field, won't be teraformable
>>768564292
>>768564407
>>768564411
I've made some 3d art of a terraformed mars and other planets but can't upload cause i'm not at home.
basically what these guys said is true. mars is a dead planet, the gravity is only 1/3 of earth's.
venus i think would be more worth the effort, it is almost the same size as the earth, still has an active core with functioning E-M barrier and in many ways appears to be a young planet. (resembles what earth probably looked like in the distant past)
>>768564561
Why don't we just nuke the poles? obviously the sun can reach mars, the robots feed off solar panels. Its just cold because it has no atmosphere
>>768564292
>>768564411
There is enough water in Mars for it to cover the whole planet to a depth of 35 meters, it is in ice form
>>768564407
It's true that Mars has only about 0.38G, but biggest reason why terraforming will not work is lack of magnetic field.
Colonizing Mars will happen, but doing it in bigger and civilian way probably will not happen ever.
>>768564675
Nasa Plans to Create ‘Artificial Magnetic Field’ turning the Red Planet Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQwT_6bbzeI
>>768564006
No magnetic field, domed cities required even with an atmosphere, no significant atmosphere to terraform, lack of biological microbes in the dirt, really low water, lack of any feasible terraforming with even near-future Earth technology. Currently, terraforming Venus is the best bet.
>>768564709
Nuking the poles will leave nuclear fallout.
The heat will melt the ice.
Only to have most of the ice blown and evaporate into space then freeze again.
>>768564709
that was actually an idea for a time
way to bring co2 as greenhouse gas
if you like contaminated water, that is...
>>768564730
in a terraformed state there would still be water at the poles. you would not be able to melt all the water at the poles and make it earth-like. the water would just keep freezing at the poles.
>>768564758
interesting.
>>768564675
Yeah that's a big hurdle to overcome, but i do remember that mars magnetic field isn't inexistent, it's just extremely weak so it can't cover the whole planet.
>>768564740
well, if we could restart the core...
>>768564758
From where would you get the amazing amounts of energy you would need to maintain the magnetic field?
>>768564940
sounds great but is it feasible or even necessary to do so?
>>768564940
Energy requirement would be extreme to the point of Dyson sphere levels.
>>768564006
It's sad that everyone refuses to believe that the planet is quite literally dead.
No active magnetic field, no active core, frozen and desolate.
Mars is what earth will become due to the inevitability of time
>>768564407
3 - Exercising would get rid of the muscle atrophy and bone density problems, also deformities would take millions of years to occur, and i don't even think you can call them that as the body is simply adapting to the enviroment
>>768564006
We only get one shot at changing the climate of mars, if we fuck it up we lose such a valuable resource.
>>768565255
1 year and things change more than you think.
Imagine 10 years.
https://youtu.be/5J8QOEsELOY
>>768564407
>3. Low gravity ( Human Deformities)
Everyone always brings this up as if its some sort of great point. Asnof its something weve never thought of.
>>768564966
Your mom?
>>768565444
wasted trips
>>768565384
That news report is massively misleading and theres a big difference between reduced gravity and 0 apparent gravity.
>>768564940
Restarting Mars's core is something that humanity will never be able to do.
We are speaking in scales that are so massive that we don't have even fracture of the power to do anything.
Take in example drilling here at Earth. Earth has radius of about 6300 km. We have been able to drill holes to about 12 km and somewhere around there, rock starts to act like hard and hot jello. Mars has radius about 3300 km. Even if we could drill to 200 km at Mars, it would mean nothing.
>>768565172
I thought the Sun was going to burn up earth, how would it freeze in time?
>>768564407
Hence the weak atmosphere. The problem is we can’t just give a planet a magnetic field and therefore the atmosphere will always suck. Also those three things the other anon said are important
>>768565492
Humans don't plan it out. We are only a fraction of a second to the earth.
>>768565667
YEah fuck mars, earth is better
Why not venus?
>>768564006
There isn't a strong enough magnetic field to hold an atmosphere like ours so terraforming won't work. Also in general sending hue-mons to Mars is a waste
>>768567412
I agree
>Mars
>terraforming until habitable wil take 100 thousand years
>nuke polar caps on Mars
>kickstart greenhouse effect
>radiation will be non existent by the time it's habitable
>>768564407
>1. Its too cold.(Too hostile for good bacteria to thrive)
Mars stone is rich in co2 and n, both would create a dense athmosphere and heat it up.
>2. Very thin atmosphere ( Cooked by solar radiation and no heat will remain in planets atmosphere.)
See 1. But the problem with solar radition is, that the atmosphere would stay around 5k years, that would mean, we would have to constantly restore it.
The bigger problem is the required energy. With our current worldwide energy output it would take around 120 years to get the necessary atmosphere. This makes fussion reactors mandatory, only they could deliver the necessary amount of energy.
>>768567856
The biggest problem is the planets magentic field is too weak to hold an atmosphere like earths
>>768564006
Mars looool. People are such a retards.
>>768567714
Radiation will stay without an ecosystem to filter it out.
>>768567856
>create a dense athmosphere and heat it up.
Not enough gravity to keep a dense atmosphere.
>>768564703
Good luck getting 267600000 liters of caustic bullshit out of there
>>768564006
Well considering that phobos is going to impact Mars within the next several thousand years, what would be the point?
>>768567856
>>768568069
moreso, not enough magnetic field to keep the solar wind from stripping that shit right off
>>768567950
>>768568069
Yeah, over a long time, but it would still be able to sustain a livable atmosphere for 5k years. Are you people not reading? That is why it would have to constantly be restored.
>>768568119
link?
>>768568174
Yeah and the low gravity would slowly remove it too.
>>768568189
Meant millions not thousands. https://web.archive.org/web/20140624191709/https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/profile.cfm?Object=Mar_Phobos
>>768568183
You would have to be constantly making atmosphere because it would take so long to get to a livable one and you'd always be losing it. It's an up hill battle
>Why do they not start terraforming mars
You are are some blue-pill melting snowflakes. Thanks for letting this go on this long \b\
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M-7D0DPUe1Q
Stop asking about chucks and traps for you have invited it upon yourself
>>768568465
At a certain threshold, plants can sustain the atmosphere. Earth loses it's atmosphere continuously, but the plants replenish the oxygen.
The planet lost its atmosphere once before in the distant past. Scientists assume that a large flare from the sun was enough to blow off the majority of the Martian atmosphere and there's nothing we can do to prevent it from happening again. The smaller size of the planet is part of the problem with retaining a thick enough atmosphere. Earth is larger and more capable of sustaining its own atmosphere - due in part to more water abundance on the surface.
>>768568632
Just pour more water on Mars.
>>768564740
This, Mars doesn't rotate enough so any atmosphere you do manage to create will be lost and you're always looking at getting hammered with solar radiation without a good magnetic field/atmosphere.
Unfortunately Mars probably won't be terraformed.
>>768568519
lol
>>768568612
But that constant atmosphere we need that is maintained here is set by our planets gravity and magentic field. Mars doesn't have the gravity or magentic field to reach the critical level, I'd bet you'd be losing the atmosphere faster than it can be made
>>768564006
do you really think we have the tech to terraform mars?
>>768568519
So we shall start the baiting early today...
No iron core.
It will never be fit for human colonization.
>>768564006
all resources are already on mars but those robots are almost as dumb and useless as average 4channer
and it costs niggerillion bucks
>>768568681
A Martian day is only ~40mins longer than ours, I think lower gravity and the weak magnetic field is a bigger player
>>768568879
The lack of magnetic field is the biggest hurdle. It used to have an atmosphere that could sustain liquid water, but something happened with the planet to weaken its magnetic field enough to get blown away by solar wind.
>>768569036
More likely that the core is cooling on Mars. That's an impossible situation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-old7YI4I
>>768564861
Ideally yes.
Do you have any science on how much we should terraform before we end up melting all the ice? Cause it's not like we stop terraforming day 965 and the planet stops heating up day 965.
>>768569280
why does this guy have a chiodwike speech impaiwment? litewawy unwatchabuw
>>768569737
The script is good but 6 minutes in I can hardly stand it. I have to focus so hard on understanding the words the meaning gets lost sometimes. Not a good speaker for the a video at all.
>>768569280
>maws
>pawadise
>sulfiwic acid
>cwoss ouw fingews
>vewy unlikely
>suwface pewiodically resuwfaced
holy shit it goes on for the entire video. did the writers fuck with this guy on purpose knowing he had a speech problem?
>>768564006
If you had the technology to terraform Mars youd be able to fix any geological or agriculture problem on Earth
>>768564407
these also
>No profit
Let's face it. No-one in this world as far as countries and governments are concerned are interested in anything that doesn't give them short term profit and/or power.
t.Aussie who's govt has been selling the country to China for short term profit because all of our prime ministers have been Freemason Jews.
>>768570057
>duh JOOOOOS
lol
>>768564709
And it has no atmosphere because it has a very weak magnetic field and it doesn't have gravity strong enough to hold onto a lot of gasses, except Carbon Dioxide and the other shit it has because they're pretty heavy as far as gasses go.
Earth only has an atmosphere as thick as it does because our magnetic field is fucking boss as fuck.
>>768570106
You know damn well that if there was Oil on Mars then the US would've invaded it decades ago.
>>768570180
Titan has more natural gas and hydrocarbons than all of Earth's combined, and it's only a 7 year trip away.
Availability of fossil fuels are not a motivating factor in this.
>>768568519
So this is where nasa test rovers for the terrain on mars that's cool.
>>768570383
fossil fuels no, but resources yes 100%. Asteroid mining will be an extremely lucrative endeavor. you don't have to have payloads reach escape velocity from asteroids. I wonder if any planets or moons will be used for resource harvesting.
>>768569952
>>sulfiwic acid
>>cwoss ouw fingews
>>vewy unlikely
>>suwface pe
lol
>>768570637
Goodluck finding fossil fuels anywhere but earth for obvious reasons.
Have you ever seen the movie “Moon” super good about that concept. Onea my favorites, on netflix now.
>>768570057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ueonB9FW0
>>768570935
yea I saw moon. I liked what dead space did with the concept of space mining better though.
>>768570137
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfzUGPVlUyA
>>768570137
why don't we send a monkey to mars?
>>768569926
Yea it's really too bad. The guy clearly knows what he's talking about but it's just so hard to get into the videos and take him sewiously.
>>768564006
there will be constant shipments to mars not all at once, we also don't even have the tech to terraform our own world muct less another world that hardly has a molten core anymore.
we need to get other things on mars first and not just a rover. to terraform will need much larger things than a rover, besides they are still covering up the fact there is a race of creatures living beneath the surface with that whole "the light is from a shiney rock"
Ever wondered why Mars is so small? Compare its size to the inner and outer core of Earth, and then realize it used to be Earth-sized.
It's red because its iron outer core is inert and solid and oxidized.
>>768571238
inert, solid, and oxidized.
>>768564006
>Why do they not start teraforming mars now,
Oh, gee, what possible reason could there be? Let me think.....
....oh yeah. THE COST.
>>768570935
>Goodluck finding fossil fuels anywhere but earth for obvious reasons.
you know that "fossil" fuels are just hydrocarbons, right? fossils aren't the only source of hydrocarbons. one of saturn's moons has more "fossil" fuels than all of earth's reserves combined.
>>768571199
>""""""they"""""" are still covering up the fact there is a race of creatures living beneath the surface [of mars]
calm down.
>>768571326
Doesn't matter. Take the message instead of trying to nitpick a minor error.
>>768571609
It's absolutely jaw dropping how either underaged or absolutely retarded most posters are in this thread.
>>768571977
surely shitposting about it will help
>>768571731
Take your own advice faggot.
>>768572711
>>768564006
>they
You mean we?
>>768572815
Not worth the time.
Neck yourself.
>>768565077
>>768565130
>>768565485
What are you three smoking? The core hasn't stopped, it just doesn't contain the same levels of nickel and iron that ours does that generates the magnetic field. Total Recall was just a movie, Quaid.
>>768564006
>tfw there is a better planet to terraform, but we are too busy terrafucking it.
>>768572993
>>>>768568112
you mean the venusian atmosphere?
it can be nuked
>>768573187
You can't just nuke everything, Vladimir!
>>768573320
One of the first ideas pitched, before they launched a man to the moon, when deciding what america could do before the ruskies was nuking the moon.
You can literally nuke everything.
>>768574221
Yes, I know. The plan was to make sure it hit on the moon's Terminator, so the mushroom cloud could be witnessed with the naked eye. But nuking a planet with sulfuric acid for air wouldn't do much besides mixing radioactive particles into the acid ocean. That's why we never took colonizing Venus too seriously. A planet with weak gravity, little atmosphere and a wimpy magnetic field is a long shot, but still infinitely easier than trying to build on a planet that is corroding your equipment with concentrated acid every moment.
>Space Race
>Germany first rocket
>Russia first satellite
>Russia first dog
>Russia first orbit
>Russia first photos of moon
>Russia first man in space
>Russia first planetary flyby
>USA Nukes the moon
>Fuck you bitches.
anyone excited about the current NASA proposed mission?
InSight (Interior Exploration using Seismic Investigations, Geodesy and Heat Transport) is a proposed NASA Discovery Program mission that will place a single geophysical lander on Mars to study its deep interior.
>>768564006
Fuck you cunts! Australia is gonna be in the space game soon and be the first to Mars bitches
>>768564006
It would take more than a hundred years mate in order to complete terraforming mars, plus takes a LOT of energy to do
