Why are costumers so damn entitled? Is this an American thing or does it happen in other countries? I've had costumers complain I didn't tell them to "have a good day" after I've been insulted. They complain their $50 worth of burgers isn't ready in under 2 minutes. If we give them a medium drink instead of a large, rather than letting us replace it, they bitch and moan.
>>768455796
It's restaurant owners and executives that have fostered and allowed this sort of entitled behavior to flower. It used to be if you were an asshole, restaurants would refuse service to you, but somewhere along the line money grubbing execs found that by sucking customer dick they made better profits, so now everyone does it and customers by large have become ungrateful, rude pigs.
>>768455796
Because they are in a purely transnational relationship with you. You do not exist as a person, you exist as prat of a process for receiving services. If they thought about you as a person they most likely would treat you differently but we are no just a bunch of atomized non persons in our current social structure.
>>768455796
if you hang out a shingle saying, in effect, "we sell food", don't be surprised if people get pissed off when you DON'T SELL IT TO THEM.
>>768456188
But we DO give them they're shitty food, retard. They just throw a hissy fit if it doesn't fry fast enough. Can't control how fast oil fries French fries. Also, if you get mad your cashier gave you a large instead of a medium cup, having a mental breakdown and flipping tables isn't an appropriate response.
>>768455796
>why do people expect a decent service when they paid good money for it?
ftfy
>>768456534
I can tell that you're a real people person. Must be why the customers love you so much.
>>768456534
>they’re
>>768456534
Twinkie defense. Blood sugar is a bitch. Food service gets the business end of that stick.
>>768456644
Again, if people had common sense and realized preparing a meal doesn't take 2 minutes.
>>768456534
We get it you’re a shitty server.
>>768456708
>autocorrect typo
>>768455796
You work in customer service, do your job correctly and get over yourself.
>>768456534
>having a mental breakdown and flipping tables isn't an appropriate response.
That had to have been niggers doing that
>>768455974
100% this.
>>768456783
We get it. You'll scream, go red jn the face, and even assault someone if they get something wrong that will literally take 2 seconds to fix if you ask for another cup
>>768455796
Shut up and bring me my curly fries BITCH!!
>>768456600
why do people treat servers like shit even before they have a chance to be interacted with?
i swear to christ the filthy masses just walk into a restaurant and think "how can i fuck with the person bringing me my meal?"
you dip shits act like women on their fucking rag.
yes we are supposed to give you good service but its not our fault that we treat you like shit when you act like rabid cunts from the very beginning.
>>768456729
If your hypoglycemia is so bad that a slight mistake in your order can cause you to go into a violent rage, you ought to carry a snack.
>>768455796
Not sure that picture is the best choice though. While I agree with most in your post, having the customer wait 30 minutes and nothing is not really okay.
>>768455974
It's more than this, but it is mainly this
>>768456974
Exactly
>>768456999
Fucking checked.
Trips don't lie.
>>768457000
It was the first thing on google images and I was too lazy to keep searching.
>>768456999
>>768457000
I see your trips
>>768457000
I would be willing to bet 100 bucks that this was during a busy lunch period, and rather than trying to get a server's attention, they just sat there and stewed like a petulant child because no one noticed them QQ.
>>768457000
Holy shit back to back trips
>>768457094
Probably
>>768455796
well if ya makes feel any better i did watch an old bitch of a customer (bout mid 50's is my guess) get the shit beat out of her by some faggot,although i got to say i feel bad sorta bad for not steppin and try to help her but i dont feel cause of the reason why she got her ass wiped.
>>768456999
>>768457000
Double trip brothers
Well, I don't act like this, but I do get pretty upset when I receive poor service. I am generally a nice person, but you need to realize that you are paying them (both through food as well as with tips) so as a server, you damn well better be able to efficiently serve customers. Your job is specifically created to SERVE people. Just like a pilots job is specifically created to fly a plane. When a pilot does a shit job of flying an airplane, people complain. It should be no different for service workers.
If we did not have tips it would be much easier to understand if service is lack luster, because they do not have incentive to do a good job.
But in the US, our retarded tip system enables people to be disrespectful because we are virtually always expected to spend 20% above what we ordered to "tip" our server. With such a requirement, we had better get good service. A good server in a busy, high end restaurant can make 40,000+ a year with moderate hours. Most bachelors degrees don't enable such income. I don't see the issue with being upset with 30 minutes of no service.
>>768456124
>>768455796
samefag, I can tell by the shitty spelling
>>768455796
> Why are costumers so damn entitled?
Because they have the cash. Whoever has the money makes the rules.
>>768457094
Fair point. I wouldn't wait 30 minutes hoping for the attention. I'd grab it.
>>768456534
>Can't control how fast oil fries French fries
have you tried cooking them before the customer orders?
>>768457287
Pfft We don't do tips at my job. Its fast food
>>768456710
looks more like the exact opposite to me
>>768456974
When you get older and have more real world wisdom you will develop empathy.
Even if you gave A+ service, you are outnumbered by the masses of servers that are horrible at any job they do. People get tired of the idiocy after a while and then take it out on you. It's nothing personal until you let it get to that point.
Again, most suck at working in service
>>768455796
>implying your country isn't just as littered with fast food places
rule no.14: Do not argue with a troll — it means that they win.
>>768457376
We're not allowed to. They get cold and costumers complain they're not "fresh"
>>768457376
Now we're entering a trade-off I personally wouldn't like.
While some would want their fries 2-3 minutes faster. I'd rather wait 5 minutes extra to make sure my fries are fresh.
There is nothing worse than soft fries.
>>768457336
you're right you have the cash, then why do you come to a fancy restaurant and demand a steak in 15 min just because you have an appointment in 30 min? go to fucking mc donnalds.
>>768457393
If you serve at a "restaurant" that serves fast food, you aren't "serving" you are delivering. To elaborate more, if you complain about people being shitty to "servers" in a fast food restaurant, then you are retarded. Work hard and get a job in a nicer restaurant, or better yet save money and educate yourself in a trade, or pursue higher education and get a real job. People complaining about stuff like this need to realize it's just a byproduct of working in a shit job. It's just another reason you should strive to better yourself and get a job that isn't ass.
>>768456534
You need to shut up and get the fuck out of the food industry. Go dig a ditch or drive an uber.
>>768455796
shit flows down hill in america. So middle class feels entitled where ever they can find it.... which is usually at, but not limited too:
>wal-mart
>fast food drive-thru
>chain restaurants
>long lines
that pic is hilarious. I can tell it was made by some dumb bitches based on the loopy W's and the fact they waited 30min before figuring it out they got no service. Table details appear to show american dinner. Which means its either >order up front
or
>wait for waiter
which they never figured out and made a social media post about it. They're fucking retarded.
>>768457602
This guy got a point.
I personally work in a nicer restaurant and rarely get the outspit that a lot of people talk about. Then again, I'm not from the states and we don't use tips here.
>>768457376
>y-you should be able to perfectly predict my whims, or else generate massive waste maintaining the illusion that you can.
The absolute state of the consumer mindset
>>768457602
Going to college but I need money to pay for it, hence the shitty job. Its the only place I heard back from because actual restaurants Didn't call me back
>>768457602
To be fair, you need to have a very high IQ to appreciate Rick and Morty...
>>768457183
This thread isn't spam or trolling. It contains legitimate discussion. Save this shit for trap and WWYD threads.
>>768457488
put them under a heat lamp and remember, they get what they pay for
>>768455796
Get a real job then, faglord.
>>768455796
I like the food sitting next to this at the bar, somebody had to watch this unfold as they were eating
>>768457500
Pre cook it retard. Stop making excuses for them to NOT pay you. What are you dumb?
>>768457414
i have empathy, what i dont have is the ability to comprehend why people treat servers like shit when they've done nothing wrong, why they dont get tips for working hard to give you good service, and why you people bring your baggage in and throw it in a strangers face.
how about people learn not to be douche canoes?
>>768457842
There is plenty of fast foods around. If one would serve me soft fries, I'd go to another.
As a busy server, that might be cool. But as a company that isn't and the servers will get shit for the reason behind it happening.
Hence, why they can't do shit like that.
>>768457669
^^^ bingo
The states do have different expectations for servers, and in general the people are more demanding just because most of the food in the US is either really good and super expensive, or average at best and super cheap. Both cases offer a lot of room for people to be expecting of either great service, or fast service. Either way, it make it hard for a server, but I think complaining about it is absolutely degenerate. I have a sister that during college served in a pretty nice restaurant, and she very rarely complained about people being shitty, and when she did, it was extreme examples of garbage people. Along with this, she was very competent and did a good job. If you put in the effort to do a good job, you will outgrow your trash tier mcdonalds job and move up. If you complain about it daily, you will learn to hate your job and never get out of it.
>>768457489
yeah theres a trade-off. If your customers are getting pissed its likely that there is some miscommunication about what sort of food is being served, either due to the price point, or the branding/decor, or how the customers order/pay.
if you go to an expensive sit down restaurant and get pre-made soggy fries then yeah, you'll be pissed; go to a fast food joint and it takes upwards of 10 minutes? Same story, different angle.
>>768457934
The server can't really go in and "pre-cook" the meal. We don't really have power in that end.
Besides, freshly cooked and pre-cooked have different taste.
>>768457957
>when they've done nothing wrong
You see, Ivan, in America low status job IS done something wrong.
>>768455974
I work in the casino business but the principle is similar. In the old days we knew we were scamming degenerates and we treated them like the asses they were if they acted like it. Now the people at the top try to convince everyone that we are in the "entertainment business" and that these people are customers instead of the truth which is we are running a grift and these people are marks. We have to be very nice to these drunken low lifes now and if we say anything cross at all its write ups all around even if they are acting like dipshits. It's easy for the people at the top to make these rules because they don't have to work in the hostile environment they are now enabling. These people swear at us, threaten us, I've seen people spit at I've even seen security guards attacked. They act how they are enabled and our bosses enable the shit out of them.
>>768457717
use previous sales records to estimate consumption rates. Keep fries in a warmer with holes to stop oil pooling, giving a freshness time of 15 minutes.
shits not hard to solve man.
>>768457934
i hope youre trolling do you know how much food you would waste in a day doing that?
you pre cook 20 steaks and sell 15 thats 5 steaks left over that you need to throw away, if we did that the price of you 12$ steak dinner would become 20$ for a 6oz steak.
fuck you people just assume shit is so simple there are rules and regulations that have to be followed if not the state shuts us down.
>>768457751
I get college costs money, but you need to realize that working a shit job is part of being an adult. I worked manual labor from age 15 to 20, and did well in school to earn scholarships, and now I am in senior year of mechE at uni and the fruits of my labor are paying off. That shit sucked ass, it was hot, humid, painstaking work but I rarely complained about it because I knew that eventually I would never have to do that work again. Maybe I was raised differently, but I will never understand how people can go day in, day out complaining about their shit job but never work hard enough to get themselves out of it. College is expensive, so drop out and spend 5 grand learning a trade. You will make more than probably 75% of bachelors degrees and be working within 6 months of entering most trade schools. A buddy of mine entered a trade school for non-destructive testing and traded in his 2006 VW passat for a 2015 mustang GT within 10 months. He never complained either, because he had a similar outlook as I did
>>768458224
inb4 someone suggests not having food safety standards as a potential "solution".
>>768458178
Then again, telling that to the server will change shit all.
>>768457934
I was saying earlier that you can pre-cook some stuff, like fries, onion rings, and other sides, but I don't think a steak should be pre-cooked.
inb4 this thread is an elaborate way to get consumers honest opinions about food service so large chains can eliminate costs by doing stupid shit such was what you suggested.
>>768455796
>>768456534
the only drink that costs enough to be worth possibly cheating the customer is alcohol, and it doesn't come in large
if you can't remember or write english then get the bigger size
>>768458066
im not going to argue that working in food is not low status, fuck i hate when people decide to make it their lifes work, i've known servers who have worked at the same place for 50 years and die never getting to taste retirement.
but that isnt what im arguing, if you walk into a denny's with a shitty fucking attitude and decide "fuck this person i dont know" then stiff them on the tip and give them shit that YOUR fault that you deserve shitty service.
if you walk in during the "lunch rush" and expect to be treated like a king while another customer is giving shit to your server and s/he is tilted then yes that another customers fault and you should take it up with them.
>>768458297
ikr? enjoy eating green bread and spolied "pre-cooked" meat.
>>768458349
yeah well of course its up to the restaurant manager to work out how kitchen and front of house will operate.
Also, in general, it's universally true that the service industry is a dog trash tier career choice. You should never expect it to be nice, and you should always expect it to be ass.
There is a reason nobody STRIVES to become a fry cooker at mcdonalds. Learn to live with the shit tier job that is the food industry and work your ass off to get into a restaurant that isn't meant for the middle class, or educate yourself in some way and work in a different career. It's that simple
I just mucus spit in every dishes and drink i serve or link then
>>768458428
Yes, and what the guys with over 5000 confirmed kills like >>768458281 are trying to say, is even being in a job where you have to put up with human garbage is somehow your fault and you actually deserve everything that happens.
>>768458565
lick* the food
>>768455974
This.
And lower-level management is so concerned about complaints to their superiors that they give coupons and discounts to the assholes. Decent customers either eat elsewhere so they aren't paying for the assholes' discounts, or become assholes themselves.
>>768458565
Then you've become the monster you think you're fighting. Good job, hero.
>>768458178
its not that fucking easy, state rules dictate shit has to be done properly.
here in LA we are not allowed to keep food under a "warmer" for more than 10 min, if we were to calculate the amount of fries we sell in a day/week and the numbers come out wrong we just cant tell a customer "sorry we dont have fries."
no we fix the problem by using another bag, which takes time to fry, meanwhile the cook has several other orders to take care if, a cook doesnt just work on 1 persons mean, but several meals at once.
they have to dedicate so much brain power to remembering what is working and what isnt.
this isnt a magical realm that you get your own private cook for you shitty fucking omelette, theyre also working on sandwiches for tabe 17, a burger for table 12, and a salad for table 2.
and before you say "get more cooks" the price of your food goes up by 2$ for every cook in the kitchen.
>>768457000
30 minutes was probably more like 10.
normally the people who don't tip are well known for it, so when all the union's come together on it they generally put in a word of quality measure, everytime who doesnt tip gets the shit served on the plate while the people who do tip get a clean pallete. they eventually stop but it takes them a long time to get over it when they can just get away with so much behind the counter.
>>768455796
Because waiters aren't people like us and shouldn't have rights.
>>768458962
Exactly, they're weak and stupid and need to EARN THEIR WAY like me!
I had to put up with faggotry in some of my jobs, so the faggotry need to continue to make it fair on me!
>>768458571
its circumstances of life my dude, i lost my cushy job in march because i was fucking retarded, i didnt take it out on anyone because it was my fault, if you have a problem then its "your problem" not your dogs, your pharmacist's, or your servers.
if you cant agree to just shut up and eat your meal and not give people shit because you had a shit day then stay home until you get past it and move on.
there are some servers that deserve their fucking shitty attitude, not gonna lie, there have been times when a server deserves it because they brought their problems with them.
still doesnt give people the right to treat another working person like shit for no god damn reason.
>>768458571
No, you absolute retrograde autist, I never said that. I actually used the example of how I had to deal with a work environment that is equally shitty as preface for the fact that it's not the job that is the problem, its the worker. Everyone that isn't born with a silver spoon in their mouths has to fucking work. The difference is whether or not you think the world owes you something. You interpreting me as "chad success" automatically makes you the "virgin failure" because you have already showed me how much you think I should give a shit about you. Nobody gave a shit about me, I could have fucked off in school and barely graduated, dicked around my job until i got fired, and then blamed my situation on the fact that I have to work in a shitty job. That's, unsurprisingly, the easy solution. The difference is I made a decision, and my parents raised me to work hard, so that I could put myself into a position that enables me to be happy in a career that lets me work with people that are not dog trash. I was born into a lower middle class family in the middle of bum fucked nowhere (population 373) and went to school in a shit tier public school. You aren't the only person that had (or has) to deal with shitty situations
>>768459082
You misunderstand. I agree with you and think >>768458281 is a fag.
>>768459088
Could you be any more triggered?
>>768457425
Is that some Jessi Slaughter? Moar!
>>768459161
i understand you agree with me but for the sake of the others in the thread, i want people to understand what servers face on a day to day.
as a customer some times yeah i get it, a server treats me like shit and thats on them and i show them the same respect i want.
its a shitty life where "entry level" has become "your career"
>>768456710
I liked this image the first time it was posted, dont ruin it with your retardation
>>768459223
Could you be more degenerate?
I am a bit triggered, because you somehow think that life is all about you.
Get over yourself, maybe realize that some of your problems are because of you, and stop complaining about everything that happens to you.
I get that life sucks ass some times, but the only difference between someone who is completely worthless, and someone that isn't is their ability to realize that nobody owes them anything.
>>768455796
American culture is deeply flawed at every level. This is just another example.
It's customer entitlement. Americans have simply gotten used to waiters jumping through hoops for them. Waiters have to because they need their tips. Despite being in the largest economy in the world, apparently a minimal living wage is just not in the budget for them. I always hear Americans complaining about waiters in places like Europe because they're not used to being waited on by someone with some self respect.
And Americans are the only ones who appreciate the disturbing level of false modesty most of these waiters express in order to get that tip. It's like being assigned a slave. When Americans go to a restaurant they expect to be treated like kings for an hour or 2 and just assume their servant is just dying to make them happy. It's the restaurant going experience.
Not just that, but because of American entertainment people got used to tipping everywhere. A few decades ago tipping in Europe was seen as a status thing. You weren't just worldly because you know about tipping, you're rich enough to afford it. Even to this day, even in places where waiters get a decent wage due to not-flawed culture, people still tip for some reason. It's insanity.
It's just one of many not so subtle ways how the US infects the world with its corrupt inferiority.
>>768455796
It's because there is a ton of competition in food service. With lots of competition for customers, people become deluded into thinking that they're special to the company. These customers cant accept that they are just $$ to the companies and they accordingly lose their shit when they are reminded that their only value is the money they bring. Basically only losers that need attention and respect from strangers get angry about silly stuff like that.
>>768459361
hey im >>768459291
listen man, i get you and like i said sometimes basic beginner jobs just pay more "right now" and its difficult to get past that hurdle.
i think you should take a step back and breathe, yeah its fucking shitty and theres shit people that just "dont get it" but thats because they never had to experience it from our end.
>>768458224
What's the margin on a Steak? It you throw away 20% more steaks, but you can sell to 50% more customers, that's a net positive. Every minute a customer is waiting at a table for their steak is a minute blocking a new customer from entering.
>>768459361
So, you come into a thread where the OP is basically bemoaning dealing with degenerates, and lose your mind over that being a sign of entitlement and degeneracy?
Maybe if you weren't such a loser, you wouldn't be on 4chan and you wouldn't need to interact with these "degenerates" that trigger you so? This is YOUR FAULT soldier! HOO AH. Keep your head down and your mouth shut, HOO AH. Stop being so entitled and move up in the world!
>>768455796
To be fair if someone had the time to write that on a table without anyone from the restaurant noticing then maybe they have a point
>>768459508
I can respect that,
at the very least, I realize that it's incredibly hard to push past entry level jobs because you can get 50% of the wage a bachelors or trade school job can supplies, but with only 10% of the effort. I can see how it's a huge hurdle to cross, but not everything is about money and people complaining about how awful their job is is an example of why working hard to get out of there is so important. I can't stand people that won't accept the fact that their situation is in their hands and only theirs.
But I do agree, I am overly aggressive about it. I just find it hard to understand how people can go onto 4chan complain about it to complete strangers and then make themselves out to be the victims of the "system"
>>768458754
Pay cooks less problem solved
>>768458178
There are way too many factors for consumption rates/overall guest traffic, anon. Your idea would assume that in an industry that is based on the whims of the consumer is consistent year by year and potentially changing menu items that the same sht will get ordered all the time. Alot of side dishes, mostly fried ones, have a small window between being finished tooking to hitting the plate that no restaurant owner in their right mind would cook a ton of stuff 'just in case of a rush'. That is wasteful to not only their stock but their budget.
>>768459546
i have only worked for 2 restaurants in my life as a cashier, so i only have anecdotal evidence which i dont like giving because its not a blanket across all businesses.
the way it was described to me years ago is as such:
we sold steaks for $12.95, we bought them in boxes of 8 because they were around 25$ at the time, however the meal was divided up by the sides and the protein and the bread, we also added in .35 cents for a potential soda.
so protein was 8$ flat, side 1 was 2$ and side 2 was 2$ the rest of it was the bread and soda.
that is how it was explained to me, so if we didnt sell all 20 steaks or had to throw even 1 away, it was a massive loss.
i dont know if that is true, but that is how the GM explained it to me. :/
>>768458352
Why not? Is it really so bad to serve a 30 minute old steak? If the resturaunt knows it will serve 20 steaks a day, most of them around lunch time, it can make 20 rare steaks just before. Each customer can then get it more done as needed.
>>768459732
the place where i worked struggled to even get cooks, most were illegal, and were paid 10$ an hour max 12.50$ an hour when the minimum was 8$ in LA. what ended up happening is they shaved hours off the cashiers and the servers.
>>768459852
Holy shit spot the nigger in the room
>>768459460
>Cause Americuh Cause Americuh
Generalizing just negates any valid point you might have made. Good show m8.
>>768455796
I hate some fast food places because about 60% of the time they fuck it up or forget something. I just drove 15 miles for a mcfucking shit meal because it's the only place open at 11 at night. Then i come home to something missing or wrong order. I don't even order shit you can't say with a number. Fucking get it together.
>>768459885
If the cooks are only making like 100 bucks a day I don’t see how it raises the price of meals 2 dollars. That implys that you only sell 50 meals a day.
>>768455796
pic related
>>768459852
it is bad, if you take a food handlers license exam they explain why food cant sit out for a long time.
when a steak sits too long the juices rise to the top and it becomes that gross pool of yellow grease and milky white fat, if you cook it again it becomes as hard as a brick and you cant eat it.
>>768459616
I could care less about the OP, unless the OP is the person responding to me.
I have no disagreement that customers are degenerate and entitled. I do, however, have disagreements with people complaining about that.
I honestly don't browse 4chan much, and I post even less, but this was pretty extreme example of autism that I couldn't pass up.
I don't have this conversation much, because I believe that people who act like that, should they choose to keep acting like that, will never play a role in my life; I surround myself with people that are proactive and determined for that reason.
Call me arrogant, but arrogance is better than torpor
>>768457094
But that is shitty service.
You make me wait 10 minutes I'm out of their.
If you have to 'grab the attention' (haha fag) then the food is likely to be shitty too.
>>768459977
>whatburgersactuallybelieve.jpg
>>768459913
> I want my $6 steak to be perfect.
>>768459977
Is this OC lol?
>>768459852
Yeah try eating one of them at the end of the day and let us know how it tasted.
>>768455796
TL;DR It's different for everyone.
Have common decency.
I understand that when you're at a restaurant during dinner rush you're going to have to wait longer for service, drinks, appetizers, ext. I also understand that mistakes happen, sometimes the chef overcooks your stake, or the waitress forgets your silverware. These are minor mistakes and are forgivable.
However, there's a difference between small inconveniences and bad service. If my burger is wrong and I return it only to receive another burger that's also wrong or just the same burger heated in the microwave THEN I'm upset.
If I'm at my table and there's only like 4 or 5 other tables and I STILL have an empty cup after 25 minutes I will look for my server, make eye contact, then proceed to shake my cup so the ice rattles around loudly.
In these situations I will not tip, in the event that I use my card I will cross out tip and write in "Work on your service." This isn't "being entitled" this is me paying for a service. I came to YOUR restaurant to get decent if not good service; it's YOUR job to serve me. To be honest I don't even see the point of a server, I can just get up and refill my own drink or get my own food from the chef. The chef's are the ones who need the tips.
Now this is a double edged sword. I know that people are bastards; it's a fucking given. People will be rude to the server, cause a scene and act like it's their job to make your job miserable. These fucks need to die. This is why I try to be understanding towards the workers and be polite in any way that I can. I try to teach my friends and family to neatly stack the dish's so they can just grab the stack and leave when we're done. Or to open the bags at the check out rack from Walmart.
Stupid shit like that to try and help or be helpful.
It's called common decency. Lotta people don't have this anymore and it's sad.
>>768460125
just for you, anon
>>768460021
>I honestly don't browse 4chan much
it shows, but you're still a fucking loser
I'm not even him
>>768459970
food cost, dish cleaning cost, there are other costs factoring into the "grand scheme" yes the food cost goes up because you are wasting food.
you still have to buy the box of bulk steaks, bulk chicken, bulk veggies and fruit.
veggies are very very expensive in some cases even more so than the meats just because the shelf life is so limited. you cant just store them in the freezer too long or they get "watery" and "inedible" according to the government.
so sadly the background cost of things makes everything go up.
i remember once a box of chicken went bad, and the GM got so pissed she cried and went out and bought some from a bulk store, and we ended up losing 200$ from the register because we couldnt get them from the supplier.
>>768460162
Thanks senpai ;)
>>768459852
>Is it really so bad to serve a 30 minute old steak
only if you live in a country with food code laws
>>768460021
>Call me arrogant, but arrogance is better than torpor
Fine post my man :^)
>>768460276
quality service, unlike OP :^)
>>768455796
We live in a world where your average normie honestly believes they have something better to do, and that their time is precious. They're all disgusting and so misguided.
>has no marketable skills
>works in a job dealing with the worst of society for less than minimum wage because loopholes in labor laws allow wage slavery
>"why does this suck so much"
I understand your frustrations, but people who go out to eat are usually lazy half tards who don't want to dedicate an hour to cooking something nice at home. They're never going to change.
>>768460593
thats why there will always be work in food service, its a shameful fact of life but people will always go for convenience over practicality.
>>768459852
If I'm paying your nigger ass for a steak, that motherfucker better be put from the cooler to the pan when I order it. Not Mcleft out under heatlamlps like a fucking fast food joint.
>>768460145
The ice rattling has always pissed me off even before working in hospitality. I find it rude as fuck mostly due to having seen people do it the second they chug down a drink before whoever is serving them has a chance to check back. It's pretty degrading.
But for the most part you have some plenty of valid points anon. Seems like a pretty neutral view and of course I have my own bias in this topic towards waistaff aagainst those who clearly have no idea how any form of restaurant works.
>>768460593
Not true?
I cook my food for my family just fine. We all do, when I go out to eat it's a treat or a special event.
If I'm dropping 150 bucks on a dinner for 4 then it better be hot and delicious with fancy white table cloths and chilled wine on tap.
If I'm dropping 50 bucks on a dinner for 4 at Rod Lobster or whatever then it's more than understandable if I have a screaming child in my ear from the nig family behind me.
>>768459977
Not accurate. He didn't scream, the wife didn't burst into tears, and they didn't ask for the manager
>>768460759
>somebody halfassing my meal is a treat for my family
Way to prove my point.
>>768455796
>i think, i found a bug! or...?
>>768457094
You're in a service. Your profit comes from customers. So yeah you should know to serve your customers when they come in
>and these fucktards expect tips
>>768460863
wait wait, sometimes going out to eat and taste something different is a treat in and of itself.
your own cooking can get boring after a while so it is nice to go out, but to red lobster... eh.
i agree that more often than not its better to eat at home, but when a lobster per person is over 20$ at the market it is cheaper to go to people who buy them in bulk and serve them to you.
>>768455796
I work at at a local run bar and grill, there exists in this world people so greasy that think that if they bitch and moan they will get to eat for free, this hurts a local business with local staff. Imagine 8 rednecks coming to your restaurant and because 1 old fucking cunt was not served a steak knife by accident the whole table should eat for free, this is $250 food and drink that the house has to pay for, this is ok for the Keg or Montana's or Applebee's, but this fucks over local places.
Servers are arguably more entitled than customers. Customers are paying to be there, you're making tips on top of a wage to basically be a glorified deliveryman.
>>768460725
There's a difference here.
The place has like 7 other people and I've finished my beverage. You're not doing much else, refill my drink. Why do I have a melting cup of ice water at a Coney island? Fill my cup, its been 25 minutes!
I really hate having an empty cup. I don't drink my drinks fast, I try to sip on them with my food. Usually only one refill before we leave if that.
but if the place has 50 people and you can't make heads or tails of where's who then I'm like "OK, I'll just wait for the server; no big deal."
My parents raised me with a belt if I was bad so I guess it's just ingrained.
One out of every few people are assholes and you don't have a real job so don't expect respect.
Really it's that simple.
>>768461065
That's actually a good point.
>>768461101
>it's important I get the service I want
>what you are doing has no value
Pick one.
>>768459921
Everyone knows it *generally* works like that in the US. Would you deny this?
>>768461101
Examples of a "real" job?
>>768461054
There doesn't exist any law that says if they bitch they get it free. If they use a service provided by the establishment (ie. Eating there) and do not pay, it's theft. Cops DO enforce this.
>>768461068
I am American, I have a 20 oz glass of soda, fill it up 7 times during my 1.5 hours here.
>>768461065
wage laws disagree, a server technically only makes 2.50 an hour because theyre tipped.
they also need to claim their tips and report them to the state so you lose at the very least 15% of your tips and its manditory.
my mother is a server and i've had to hear her bitch about the 15% and how little her checks are.
as a cashier i made full minimum. so my check would be about 200$ for 3 days of work or something, and for her 4 days of work her check was 80$ but she came home on average with 80$ in cash each of those days.
its legal to pay servers less per day because tips are the majority of their pay.
>>768461158
>can't read
>still feel the need to respond
Did this upset you?
>>768461199
walking uphill both ways to the summer job his dad gave him to pay his way through college in his bootstraps
>>768461203
Go to Jack in the Box or McDonalds. If you bitch enough, the manager will just tell the cashiers "just give it to them" before apologizing profusely
>>768461203
yup and the first line is the server, then the bartender/oldest server, then the FOH manager, then someone name drops the owner. then you shut up and pay
>>768460863
no, halfassing meaning like... the restaurant as a whole, not just the service.
If you eat at the local Red Lobster and it's FULL of little kids or loud fat black women then you can be assured that the meal will probably be a bust. Just the aura of the restaurant can put me off. The bad service is just the icing on the cake.
If I'm eating at my favorite fancy restaurant that costs a pretty nickle it usually holds a higher standard. You have to come to this restaurant dressed to impress. Nice sweater, proper shoes, maybe a vest or whatever. Then that establishments aura is better which usually means better service.
This isn't always a given but mostly it works.
Maybe the whole "poor creates poor and wealthy creates excellent"?
>>768461262
whomst are you quothing?
>>768461044
This is true.
>>768461267
I'm paying my way through college by working at fast food. I'm getting money to fund my education. Is that not the same thing? Pretty sure it is. Hell, I didn't need my dad to give me shit either. I got this job with no references and without knowing anyone already working there
>>768455796
>I'm a shitty server because I have failed in my life why do people not respect me
>>768460786
the waiter doesn't have a wife though, despite screaming and asking for the manager to provide him a safe space
>>768461199
Cook, manager, teacher, nurse, EMT, construction, admin assistant, etc.
>>768461281
Because they make millions per minute. It doesn't cut into their profit margins. It's the same reason I keep getting a free soda from McDonald's for doing a ten second survey on my receipt and haven't paid for a soda in two years. They know it's scammy but it doesn't actually hurt them in any way.
The example given was a mom and pop bar and grill. If they're giving everyone who bitches free fucking food, that's cutting into their margins. It also makes them shitty fucking businessmen because the customers who are scamming them are being enabled Everytime they cater to their whining. If they told those people to pay up and fuck off they wouldn't come back to scam again.
It's not rocket science.
>>768461199
>government literally says your job is so insignificant and such a strain on company profit that you don't have to pay them a normal wage
>people think carrying food from cook to table is significant
>>768461370
>I got this fast food job with no references and without knowing anyone already working there
Congrats?
>>768461199
>>768461101
I agree. I work as a bus driver for a city transit, I rarely get ANY respect. I dk if it's because they're 95% black customers or that it's in a poverty stricken area.
However on the flip side, one of my first ever jobs was a cashier in a very ritzy part of town. People have 3 story mansions and live on the sides of hills. These people can be just as if not more assholish than poverty people.
Maybe we ALL need to step it up?
Servers shouldnt complain about their job.
>protip: find a better job
Ive worked in resturants my whole life. Service is a service. If you cant deal with people, hungry people. Why put yourself in that situation?
>>768461229
That's a terrible way to treat your kidneys.
>>768461286
If your owner isn't there during normal business hours, let their margins suffer. Chances arethey aren't being hurt by the scammers THAT much if they're not even fucking there.
>>768460866
aside from this one, have you gotten one single reply from posting this shit everywhere?
I always give people working in the restaraunt or food industry, the benefit of a doubt. I have a really difficult time being an outward dickhead to someone in public. Especially when it comes to the people responsible for preparing and cooking my food.
However, that being said, I have had a couple of really shitty experiences at restaraunt that were due to terrible wait staff or the food was complete shit.
I don't give them shit, I just don't go back.
>>768461495
You think that's all cashiers do? They take orders, take them to the costumer, manage stocking in the front, clean the bathrooms, clean dinning hall and the outside of the restaurant
>>768461495
safety rules dictate how the plates must be held and if a person gets burned handling a hot plate the manager must get involved and fill out some paperwork and make sure the customer is ok.
if the server gets burned oh well, bitch knew what she was in for.
without the middleman (the server) state would step in and create more laws dictating every aspect of a restaurant and how it should function.
>>768461199
I was a line cook at a place that seat 100 and a 70 person patio, on a busy Fri or Sat we would seat the house for supper with 4 to 5 turnovers in 4 hours (5-9) and cook with a 4 man line and a dish boy and 1 prep/delivery driver, now I work for a large electrical company, my new job pays way more and is so much easier, I ride around in a work truck and do a few installs per day, I get every other Friday off to go to the bank and run errands. I miss being a cook.
I work at a gas station and I refuse service to people for being assholes all the time. My managers encourage it. Asshole customers drive away good customers. We've actually had the cops come and remove people from the store several times because they were insulting the employees. The owner of the store has made it perfectly clear to all of us that we are in no way obligated to take shit from customers. We don't even have to be overly nice to them if we don't want to.
>>768461068
Oh sorry, my point was kinda muddled since I didn't bother to proofread. I totally get your perspective, that is a sign of a poor server for sure. I bartend and whenever it is dead I try to make sure my guests are fine before deciding to fuck around on my phone.
Your story does remind me of one instance of when I was on the floor during an extremely busy dinner service. Got one table outside of my section (I think one of my coworkers had gotten a large party and I had it thrusted on me) and somehow I had completely forgotten them multiple times. We are all human and are prone to mistakes so once I got flagged down for the check after fuck knows how long I convinced the manager to comp a portion of their ticket. All I could say was "look, I apologize for the poor service and hope you try us out again. I'll be the first to say I didn't earn anything out of you so I insist you put a zero on that." Totally fucked up, but one should own up to that.
>>768461467
It's not scammy if they offer it. Those surveys are actually incredibly important to their corporate team. As dumb as the survey might seem to you or me, offering you a free soda for that data is well worth it to them.
>>768461600
>omg we work so hard
>we have to CLEAN
>please give us $600k/yr with benefits
>>768461752
I literally just hit the first option on every question and give the staff five stars. They're not getting any real data from this.
>>768461550
Honestly city black people were the rudest (although most weren't rude). Whites, Hispanics, Indians and Asians have their own share of assholes but they stick out as the worst experiences when I lived in a city.
Outside of cities, old white guys who drive trucks are generally the assholes. The asshole ones always want to stand around and tell you their opinions on random shit or feel entitled like a child
It's defenitely an Amarican thing. My girlfriend and I went to New York two years ago, our first time in the US, and when we went out to dinner the first evening we were shocked how the locals treated restaurant staff. Even at the cheaper restaurants we went people treated staff with less respect than i've seen people back home treating vending machines. On the other hand, the way the staff treated us was incredibly awkward to us asocial eurotrash. Staff just talking to you all the time and fake smiles and everything. They didn't say anything weird but it felt like they were just reading a script, it just felt wrong. The only place i get this vibe from people where I live is at the supermarket from pretty and spoiled 16-year old cashiers who are used to treating all their classmates like trash at school but suddenly have to act like a human being to earn money and need all their strenght just to say "have a nice day" to someone.
>>768461662
No they would just have the cook deliver it
>>768461668
That sounds like a fucking dream. I'd love to not have to stay quiet and apologize to the person that is screaming at me just to follow company policy.
>>768461588
Personally if I am still interested in a spot I give them another chance to see if it wasn't a bad night. After that I avoid the place altogether.
>>768461662
>Servers bitch about not having a living wage but won't do anything about it.
Quitcher bitchin
>>768461600
>take them to the costumer
There's the problem, people want food not outfits
>>768461764
I'm not complaining about the wage. I'm saying I'm not sitting on my ass like you imply, nigger
Well of course a company is going to treat customers like gold, they're paying to be there. You're literally just a drain on resources that will be obsolete in ten years when they introduce robot waiters.
>>768461764
as a former cashier, all i can say is, find a better job. yes our job is shit and we take so much crap from everyone, but in all honesty, find a better job.
>>768461913
the cook is managing all the meals theyre working on in the kitchen. 5+ meals and delivering them to the table wouldnt be possible.
you would burn a meal or miss the timing on flipping then if the customer has a problem or wants to talk you cant just say "no" you have to interact with people or they say "wow such a rude cook were never coming here again."
restaurants are fucked they need wait staff one way or another. at least until they make robots that can hold a plate.
>>768455796
Costumers gonna costume.
>>768456534
>We give them they are shitty food
FTFY
>>768461883
Explain how a server is better than a vending machine
News flash: People are assholes.
>>768461983
Lol I'm not even the fucker you responded to originally. The fact you think minor cleaning is noteworthy says more about your lazy ass than anything else tbh.
>>768461948
quit going to restaurants and expecting some shit assed restaurant staff to feed you then. learn to cook and make it yourself.
>>768461764
What do Americans always mean when they say: 'with benefits'? Do they get blowjobs from the boss or something?
>>768462103
That will teach him to use contractions in a formal environment!
>>768455796
Because how fuckn hard is it to get a order correct, and out in a timely manner with the food being acceptable.
>>768456729
>My poor genes and poor diet are YOUR problem
>>768456960
found the middleschooler
>>768461718
Yes. This.
When a server can be real and be like "I'm so sorry, things have been really busy let me see what I can do." I at that moment will give my tip in cash (usually like 10 maybe 20 bucks) to the server personally. If my server is like "Boom! drinks! Bam! ketchup" I will leave a HUGE tip for them because they've earned it. It's only when they're on their phone, laughing with co-workers, or whatever then I'm like "the fuck?"
Good work gets rewarded bad work gets nothing.
I left 50 for one waitress. Our original waitress was too busy talking to some guy at a table while I was looking at her with my coffee cup. The other waitress who was this sweet older woman took up the reigns. She had my toast immediately, filled my coffee AND didn't forget my hot sauce for my eggs. When it was time to leave I handed her 70 bucks and made sure to say loudly "the rest is for you" as I glared at our other waitress who was super pissed.
>>768462181
Health insurance and bonuses yearly mostly.
>>768456534
I would never ever bitch about wait time for FRESH food
>>768462181
We don't get state or federally sponsored health insurance so we literally have to work to live with a job with benefits.
>>768462116
im not going to argue that point because there isnt a point to argue, being a server is something a robot could do and give less attitude about it.
working in restaurants for a good portion of my life has taught me something important. fuck the food industry and fuck people who refuse to get better and get a better job.
stop staying in the same place your whole life and make something of yourself.
>>768462232
The severs don't give a shit about you judging their work. You're just another meaningless customer to them. It's sad that you think your assessment of their work ethic matters whatsoever.
>>768461883
New Yorkers aren't a good representation of the United States. I live in a more rural area now and commute to a city; being rude to a server at a rural diner can cause someone to speak up. Servers also learn who their repeat customers and have conversations with them so a new person coming in and being an asshole to a server would upset repeat customers.
The customer is never right. You know what you need to do to get your work done. If they're cunts let em fuck off and deal with the mess. If they do any actually criminal damage then report em to the police. Get on with your day and take pride in your work anon.
If you're hard but fair people will respect you more, I told my boss I'm not ironing my work shirt, I only wear it for work and I don't get paid for that time. Now I'm the only one who doesn't have to do stupid shit.
>>768462366
That’s normally reflected in the tip. Wait shitty get paid shitty it’s pretty simple
>>768462116
I assume most people are capable of more complex tasks than a vending machine. But even if they're not, do you kick your dog because you asked it to get your mail, but in the meantime the tv already showed you the news before your dog could bring you the paper.
That was a weird metaphor but I couldn't think of anything better on short notice
>>768462413
>I'm not ironing my work shirt
Truly a rebel.
>>768462067
Anon, they would hire more cooks, pay them less, and have them learn frontline customer experience.
People who manage businesses have already thought about this. But as long as they don't need to pay servers full wage they're going to keep it going. Even when the robots come out I bet owners would still prefer hiring young pretty waitresses who wear yoga pants.
>>768462366
And then they bitch when they get shitty tips.
Not going to lie my friends and I got annoyed the last time we went out. The restaurant wasn’t really that busy and it took close to 2 hours to get our food. All we ordered was burgers and some fries. Then the server disappeared after we were done so it was another 30 minutes after till we got our check. All in all we spent 3 hours to get some mediocre burgers.
>>768460373
2 hours in america
>>768455796
Costuming is a very difficult skill and takes a very long time no matter how good you are. A costumer has every right to be entitled, but in my experience are usually quite humble.
>retard can't spell customer correctly
>wants to be respected
Nah. Bring me a refill and shut the fuck up, loser.
Here it's opposite, customers are treated badly, maybe you will not even get an apology if they do something wrong, and any kind of monetary compensation is out of the question. Especially government people.. I rather have it your way to be honest
>>768460261
>i remember once a box of chicken went bad
that's just bad purchasing
>>768462486
So, you get to order your burger without ketchup, then they bring it with ketchup anyway?
I know you are saying respect the person because they are a person but really the jobs are the same.
>>768462314
The question is what do we do with all those lost jobs once the robots take over all serving positions.
That's how it started, now I'm never asked to clean up sick or unblock toilets. Have more time to do important jobs so got moved up to supervisor in two months (before the three month trial period ended). It's not about being a rebel but making the right calls to get what you want and demonstrate initiative.
>>768462232
I do think one aspect in these kinds of threads that is hardly mentioned is overserving. Like, coming over every 30 seconds to check on a table. Checking in is a balancing act in my opinion, too much is annoying and too little is just... not cool.
Do find it funny when coworkers claim they were stiffed but they were fucking around on their phone 95% of the time. That is one argument I will side with when people claim servers are entitled. Not even in management but it is annoying to have to tell someone to check on people I'm not even taking care of. One dude would come in stoned and thank christ he got fired. Motherfucker would just stand by the server station by BoH dazed and confused even when it was busy.
>>768462116
Because they do two different tasks.
Are you eating dinners from vending machines?
>>768462713
It's really not bragworthy to say you supervise other low laid wage slaves. Makes you sound more like a house nigger who was given a little bit of power.
>>768462557
cooks are the most expensive fuckers there, there would definitely still be dedicated servers with or without tipwage
having an all-cook team would be nuts
>>768462450
I don't work for tips. I get paid the same no matter how I treat the customers. So I could give a fuck if they like my hustle or not. Their opinions mean nothing to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm nice to people who are nice to me. But I'm not gonna kiss your ass just because you're a customer. People who think like that can fuck off if they don't like my shitty service.
>>768462557
there would be a high turn around, being a cook is a skill that "deserves" good pay.
if a cook is unhappy and doesnt get paid enough they leave, i dont think a food running cook would be very successful as theres so much already on their minds.
also many cooks here in CA are illegal sure pay them less who cares, but theyre taking jobs away from people who need the entry level experience to earn a shot in a GOOD restaurant.
on average to get hired into good kitchens you need 3-5+ years of experience. cant get experience if you cant get a job.
>>768462314
But what if someone likes working there, does that give you the right to mistreat them because you think they are not ambitious engough for your taste? I don't disagree entirely with the incredibly western idea that people with better jobs deserve more respect, but the Americans just take it too far. Just because someone has a Phd or is one of those lawyers which Americans for some reason get so erect about, doesnt mean they aren't a rotten person on every other level. Maybe someone really enjoyed being a server until you came in spreading your bile about.
>>768455796
They're paying
>>768455796
well if it's called fast food, it's a shame it's not done in less than 2minutes. Wouldn't complain in a restaurant the food is done in more time.
But waiting that much just to be attended? Obviously the fault is yours, not the customer. You just see them as easy money and don't even try the minimum effort. In that time I could have done my food and it will be much cheaper and rewarding. You are a scam, like all retailers
>>768462772
The server doesn't make the dish. They don't even put it on the plate. At best you could say they do some cleaning to differentiate.
>>768460145
>shake my cup
absolute cunt move
>The chef's are the ones who need the tips.
the cooks get paid more than the servers
chefs get paid much more
>I can just get up and refill my own drink or get my own food from the chef.
the chef doesn't want to fucking deal with you
also are you aware of the health code?
>>768462575
If you give them a good tip then they're grateful. If you don't then you just blur into the background with all the other rando customers and they never think about you again. Your revenge doesn't really pan out when you think about it in a way that's not completely retarded.
Cooks deserve the tips & more than minimum, servers deserve an hourly wage and nothing more. Being a fucking cook is infinitely more stressful and demanding than being a trained monkey who carries plates around.
>>768455796
whats a costumer? like a cosplayer?
they just seem likes cringy weeaboo anime lovers.
>>768462602
Thank you for putting so much work in correcting someone's spelling. You make the world a better place, may you get many blowjobs from many pretty women (or men whatever you prefer).
>>768462988
How can I become this delusional?
>>768455796
in relation to the pic:
staff in a restaurant are supposed to find people who are waiting to be served, and serve them asap in order to get their money.
so many times i see servers running around like they have no idea what they are doing, while a customer is waiting at the counter, watching them, trying to get their attention, and ultimately being ignored by the servers.
do you servers just not get it? your job is literally to serve people when they walk in the door.
making them wait for ages just tells everyone you are incompetent and have no idea how a business works. id fire you.
>>768462701
that was on the kitchen staff more than anything, it had freezer burn because no one stored it properly. it was a bad day for everyone.
>>768462706
>The question is
no easy answer, but its my belief that in life you should always strive to be better, if you lose your server position find something new.
,my mother has been a server for 24+ years and shes had chances to move past it and find better work, and even now all she wants is to be a server rather than getting better and moving past that.
i've seen servers lose all the strength in their arms, be unable to walk with more than 2 plates, they cant even walk after their sift and they've been there all their lives.
entry level has become career, if you want to be a career server/ cashier/ busboy, fuck you make something of yourself.
Servers are expendable slave labor. It will never change because you're not important. There will always be another no skill fuck head to take your place when you inevitably walk out.
Server at a 5 star in Vegas here ask me anything
Mothers Day tomorrow (today)
>>768463229
Why don't you get a real job?
>>768456891
this isn't making you seem less like an incompetent entitled server
>>768463273
Like?
>>768462988
>when you make minimum wage and work 12 hours a week because nobody wants to deal with your ass
You truly are a badass, anon.
>>768463302
Literally anything else that isn't wage slavery.
>>768463289
Sorry I won't suck your dick and rim your ass while I worship you, o wonderful costumer. Please tell me more about how I you're so much more important than me
>>768463185
No I don't mean you lose your server job what do you do
I mean what happens when 75% of server jobs go away because all of the big name fast food and restaurant chains have moved to robotic serving and ordering.
>>768463390
Can't think of anything that pays better. Especially since I'm paying for college out of pocket.
>>768463402
You'll suck his dick regardless because you make $2.50/hr.
He still gets the last laugh.
>>768463229
what makes it five stars
who is giving out the stars
>>768463229
What style of dining?
>>768463106
Well you've already deluded yourself into believing your severs care about your opinion, when they're busy serving countless other customers at the same time, so you tell me. Working for tips is a numbers game buddy. Getting a lot of mediocre tips is better than working extra super duper hard to get one good tip from a single person. Get over yourself, tip your server two or three bucks and get out.
>>768463476
Let's be honest, you make fuck all.
>>768463423
Then those people need to get better jobs. If they can't that is their fault for devoting resources to serving instead of devoting resources to learn different skills for a different job.
>>768462925
ill answer you honestly, as a species we should not accept mediocrity, you can enjoy being a server but you are wasting your life when you could be doing something better.
yes enjoyment of your job is a factor, i loved my last job and i was on the phone all day. life became stagnant i decided to be an electrician because entry level money wasnt good enough.
if people dont want to live up to my standards i can do nothing to force them, i dont own them or their life. However in order to become an adult, to live and to pass on their legacy to the next generation they must "get better" entry level is not a career.
im sorry for rambling but it pisses me off when i see a server of 30+ years say they need this job just to afford retirement only to die a few years before they reached their goal.
i dont want to see another grandmother or mother suffer through mediocrity and leave their children with bitter memories.
>>768463528
>getting asshurt when your impotent rage at your station in life isn't responded to
Oh I love salty bitches
>>768463185
How incredibly American of you
>>768463368
I work 40 hours a week and I make more than enough to pay all my expenses, support my crippling cocaine addiction, and still have money left over. I'm doing just fine pal. You can suck your premium customer servicer out of the tip of my cock. Come again bitch.
>>768463510
lol yelp stars obviously
>>768463517
fine dining, italian food
>>768463597
I don't work for tips. I make a salary. I just don't like you.
>>768457425
Get this monster off of my reviewbrah
>>768463539
I make 100 bucks every night pretty easy
for only 5 hours of work at most
>>768463423
sadly this is a reality we will face, i want to say "new jobs will pop up" but i cant read the future. life will be difficult and i hope that food service workers will exist in order to give people work experience but its not something ill hold my breath over.
>>768463602
see >>768463590
im very conflicted about the issue of food service, its a necessary evil, but i dont want to see my loved ones in pain. servers get so much shit and its difficult to remain neutral on the matter.
i wish for a better outcome but at the end of the day, people need to work for a better future.
thats my belief.
>>768463576
I don't think you understand. Jobs don't grow on trees, and there's a pretty large group of people working in the service industry.
Those people get hung up to dry? Including the people that would be moving into that industry? There is only so much room for people working in higher positions.
What's the solution? inb4 genocide
>>768463992
free higher education
>>768463919
My hope is that the stigma of being a business that lays off all service workers to bring in robots would cripple the companies that choose to do it, but if you look at the industry people really don't care what goes on as long as they can get lower prices.
>>768463590
Yes I agree if those people are complaining they 'need' the job, but what about the people who want the job? Also I agree that if someone has dependants (people they have to care for) they need to find a job that makes enough money to at least give those children the chance to make something out of themselves. But I don't know how it is in the US, but minimum wage where I live is enough for that. My wife's mother has been working at a daycare for children all her life earning minimum wage and as a single mother, from the money she earned, she send both her son to college and her daughter to uni. He became a pastry chef and my wife is an architect.
>>768455796
Everyone itt needs to learn to cook.
>No more shitty service
>Appreciation for the chef who's crying over onion all day
>Better food than nearly every restaurant
>Yes that includes mcdonalds, bk, kfc, etc.
>Lazy bitches could use the exercise of making your own pizza dough.
>>768463992
Make sure you're not one of the idiots who get's fucked. Sorry, but the universe doesn't revolve around you. The universe doesn't give a shit whether you have a job or whether you starve. People have made bad choices since the dawn of man and it has gotten them in bad situations. This is nothing more than that. You should be able to look past the next 5 minutes of your life and realize the world is changing. Was it fair when all of those old gold mining towns were shut down? No, but the world doesn't care about fair. People lose jobs all the time as new technology is invented. Do you think humans just stopped evolving as soon as we discovered fire? No. You need to evolve, you need to adapt. Your life is not the most important thing to the rest of the world, damned what you think. Get with the times or die out. It's not hard and people have figured this out long before you and I had this conversation.
>>768463590
>to pass on their legacy to the next generation they must "get better" entry level is not a career.
>Implying there are enough jobs
70% of jobs can be automated with current technology.Our children are going to grow up seeing workforce after workforce shut down and nowhere for the newly-unemployed to go.
>>768464345
It's going to collapse if things don't change. That's not just my opinion. That's a mathematical fact. The numbers don't lie because the numbers can't lie.
>>768462852
That's because you're a moron that doesn't understand the principle. I'm doing my doctorate at the same time, you think i care about this job?
There's a lot of negativity in this thread. Look on the bright side guys. Bill & Ted 3 was just confirmed.
>>768464345
What do you mean? I do understand the issue. You don't understand the issue. Automation has been happening for a long time now. Remember all those people that used to physically build cars? They don't any more. At least, not to that extent. Automation isn't a new industry. Those people will have to get new jobs. If they can't they will need government assistance. The government can't assist all of these people, so something will be put in place to protect those of us that pursued worth while careers. At the end of the day the American population cannot and will not be able to support you if all of you are leeching. Again, that's your problem. I have a job. It's not my job to make sure you are fed. It's my job to make sure I'm fed, and your inability to figure this out is what took you down this road in the first place. I made sure my future is secure, you did not. That's life, and again. Life doesn't give 2 shits about you or any other server in the restaurant business. Sorry, that's how it works.
>>768464081
the need for actual people in these positions has to remain as a constant, entry level positions are necessary and in place for a reason. id like to see companies who choose robotic labor over human labor to receive fines for going automated, but i doubt anything will come of it.
>>768464094
Wanting the job as in wanting to do it as their career?
thats a difficult thing for me to answer, server cashier ad busboy are "entry level" they require no specialized skills, just a simple high school education.
anyone who wants one of those jobs for life is i want to say misguided but it is possible, i cant fault them for that but its a difficult road.
living off minimum wage with bad health benefits is a serious problem, again im using anecdotal evidence which i hate using.
here in los angeles minimum wage is 10$ - 10.50$ an hour with a very bad standardized insurance package that doesnt cover much if anything.
most homes in busy city areas are out of reach for these minimum wage earners.
in my household we live in a 2 bedroom 1 bath apartment paying 980$ per month, this is a very VERY rare living space rent in very shitty apartments with 2 bedrooms cost near 1.5k to 2k per month.
most people have to share their apartment with 2 or 3 other people just to survive. In this instance the 1.5 - 2k figure is just the living space alone, no water, gas, and electricity.
so choosing an entry level job as your career is almost impossible.
>>768464627
>Bill & Ted 3
Seriously?
High point of the decade.
>>768464655
>get new jobs
What new jobs?
>Again, that's your problem.
It's actually your problem, the less i can spend on groceries, the more your groceries will cost.
>. I made sure my future is secure
What do you work as
> server in the restaurant business
Not in the service industry, that would be a mistake.
>>768464627
the plot sounds depressing
I probably won't have done shit in 30 years either, and I didn't even meet socrates
>>768464704
They're coming back in this, humanities darkest hour. Not because they need society, but because society needs them. To show people once again what it means to be excellent to each other, and party on dudes.
>>768464664
I can see it fluctuating every few years as the dem/repub cycle flows through washington.
>>768455796
Amerimutts clients are like big babies with money. You can blame the fucking media saying it's their right to whining for nothing if they're still paying.
Now add a decadent american society, a retarded president and swjs to the mix, and there's your answer.
Not that eurocucks are better btw
>be 28
>going to a restaurant
>ordering a pizza pie
>i said no ansjovis wtf
>girl says sorry i say is ok
>eat pizza pie while lying
>go outside wait till restaurant closes
>walk up to girl call her a bitch
>yelling I SAID NO ANSJOVIS CUNT
>punch her repeatedly in the left eye
>shit stars bleeding she yells "whyyyy whyyyyy"
>take her head and place it above my cock
>let blood pour on cock
>shove it in her mouth NOW SUCK IT
>manager comes out yells WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING
>grab my pistol and blast him twice
>then blast girl in skull with my cock inside her mouth
>let blood pour all over my cock
>feels good man
>escape and go home
>masturbate with her blood still on my cock
>>768464822
>What new jobs?
Pick one. Everyone else did. Go to school and be a nurse, go to school and be a code monkey, go to a trade school and be an electrician. I'm not your guidance counselor. These are things YOU need to figure out.
>It's actually your problem
No, it's not. I have a job. Even if food gets expensive I will still be able to buy more and trade more things than you will. Money is fluid, it's nothing more than a promissory note. I can still exchange what money I make and services to generate extra income.
>What do you work as
I'm a radiologist at a hospital on the graves shift.
>Not in the service industry
Ok, to be fair since you were arguing for the servers side I just lumped everyone under 'you' because it was easier than typing 'servers' every time, but it was more of a designation for the service industry as a whole.
>>768465017
i dont vote, neither party cares about the masses, they only care about how much money they can make by being in power.
still every type of government system has its corruption cant really say one is better than another. still glad we arent a socialist country, or a communist country for that matter. the day that happens ill blow my fucking skull open and let the birds bathe in my brain juice.
>>768465196
>Killing yourself
>Not killing the leader of the communist nation and going down in history
That's why you'll never be remembered.
>>768455796
>costumers
This is why you're flipping burgers.
>>768465053
I cut myself with your edge. Happy 12th Birthday
>>768455796
I've lived in Japan for twelve years, and while the customer service in even low-tier restaurants is insanely good, I have never seen any entitled bullshit from customers here.
No, Americans are just pieces of shit.
>>768465196
What do you truly consider socialist?
I agree that neither party has the people in mind, except that one profits for fucktards that think far right and the other profits from fucktards that think far left.
The two party system is fucked but it will never go away. If Hillary and Trump aren't enough to stoke third party votes who will be?
>>768465194
>Pick one. Everyone else did. Go to school and be a nurse, go to school and be a code monkey, go to a trade school and be an electrician. I'm not your guidance counselor. These are things YOU need to figure out.
But if there is only 30% of the jobs that exist today, you're looking at a lot of unemployed people.
>Money is fluid, it's nothing more than a promissory note.
This isn't how it works, people need to spend.
>I'm a radiologist at a hospital on the graves shift.
Medfags have safe jobs, mostly.
> arguing for the servers side
I was actually arguing against your delusion that things can and will continue as they are, with more and more people moving into unemployment.
>In 1906, Alfred Henry Lewis stated, “There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy.”
If you've got more than half the population starving, you will get robbed.
Stop pretending everything's going to be fine and actually put some thought into this instead of letting your cognitive dissonance run away with you.
Even if you have the qualifications to get a safe job that CAN'T be automated, there will be alot more competition because of the unemployment rate.
>>768456710
Haha, that's cute. I rather enjoy not getting shot on a daily basis, dealing with Muslim mass-murders once a week, going bankrupt from medical bills, dying from collapsing bridges because you faggots refuse to pay to maintain your infrastructure.
Better start learning Chinese, faggot. That fat fuck you elected president has ceded your country's position of preëminence, and the next century belongs to China or Europe.
>>768465282
i dont want to be remembered, im perfectly fine living a normal mundane life. im not a hero im a drone, if i ever have children i want them to benefit from my hard work and live a better life than what i have now.
>>768465409
venezuela is my example. Those people are living in hell because their government has chosen the wrong path. as for a third party, it'll never happen but id like to see a party that is established to fix the laws and regulations put in place by the other two parties, balance out all of the rapidly rushed changes.
obamacare put in place a childrens based insurance that is broken as fuck. its borderline criminal and no one cares.
california childrens services, at my previous job any child with CCS had to wait months to be approved for formula. the food they need to live, the food their parents cant afford.
CCS would have to review the patients file (can take up to 1 month) if they determine that they do not hold responsibility to cover the formula it gets bounced over to the secondary insurance who takes the time to determine if it is their responsibility (another month) once the decision has been reached, the child has to see a company verified doctor (another month or less) then they need to submit their approval to the medical supplier who takes a few days to send it.
AND THEY PARENTS DO NOT GET REIMBURSED FOR THE FORMULA THEY PAID FOR OUT OF POCKET.
how is this system a benefit for children? obama care for children was a mistake and could cost the lives of more children than SIDs.
>>768465604
Oh, no. I understand things will change. My hang up, is how is that my problem? I have a job, I can buy food. I also have a gun, for those that wish to take my food. Even if half of the country is in disarray, as long as the hospital is open, I will continue to make money. People will always need medical care, it's one of the reasons I chose the medical industry. People won't always need teenagers to bring them food. That was a poor choice in career. That's on them, and I am under no obligation to make sure their future is secure. It's not my problem. I make enough money, and their poor choices were of no fault of my own. They chose a dying industry. They will change with the industry or they will die with the industry. I will not.
>>768465870
Don't be a bitch. Just kill the dude. Hell, you could kill him and then just stand there in the dab position to cement the millenials place in history. Do it for us anon. Not just you.
>>768465972
nigga im a bitch made latino, i dont do shit for la raza, id much rather an hero and peace the fuck out.
fuck this gay earth yo.
and im not a millennial i was born in '88 im closer to a 90's kid than a millennial, though the meme factor of "only 90's kids would do something so rad" would be a big plus.
fuck i might actually do it for the lolz.
I work in retail in Ireland. This is not just an American thing at all. I can't get over how awful people are to me for shit that's not remotely my fault. People have been verbally and physically abusive because of the prices of things, where things are located, having to pay for a plastic bag. I was once reported to my manager because a woman threw her club card at me and told me not to be so rude and scan it, I said "excuse me" and she said "did you ACTUALLY just say that to me".
It doesn't help that managers treat you like shit all the time too and that the job was promised to me at a full time rate and it ended up being part time. And some days they won't even let me take lunch.
People like us, at the bottom of society are scum and we should probably just do ourselves in before we end up as 30+ year olds working as emotional punching bags for people making 50k+ a year.
