Jungian mystic here. I hope we'll pass unnoticed in the scroll on a busy Friday, but the last time I was here the thread was censored, which means we're not as well hidden here as I'd hoped. Still we'll try and hope for the best, but if the thread disappears you'll know why.
I will assist people with the Deep Mysteries for the next while. If you don't know what the Deep Mysteries are, just assume I'm LARPing and/or schizophrenic. Those of you with eyes to see know what I'm offering.
Be circumspect; we now know that archonic forces are monitoring /b/, at least once in a while.
Assist me
>>768338767
What's the problem?
Hello
>>768339068
Querent, fellow traveler, or archon?
>>768338180
Spill the beans, what's this all about?
>>768339319
If you wanted to know, you'd already know.
>>768339384
Spoopy.
But srsly u got a link or something?
>>768339155
Not from your local domain
Are the fixes working as intended?
I want to find the objective meaning or meanings of life, any advice? I'm studying the gospel and the red book.
>>768339507
The physical surface is getting pretty thin and thread-bare for me. I've been encountering pre-human proto-gods in my lucid dreams for some time now on levels below the linguistic, and my Anima has adopted a new manifestation. I suspect I may not be long for this level.
OP claims to be a Jungian but fails to recognize that the archons are simply projections of the negation of his own lack of control over the vicissitudes of Necessity.
Time 2 individu8 m8.
Btw OP who do you thing the 4chad archons are? The Jews?
>>768339613
What's to fix? Everything is working as intended.
>>768339618
Yes. I'll give you the same advice which was given to me: avoid sliding into your own navel. The temptation is to seek deeper and deeper, forgetting about your own physicality. This is a mistake, as there is just as much to learn above as there is below.
Just wanted to say thanks again for recommending me the tao te ching in a previous thread, I had heard of it but didn't quite realise it's relevance.
Do you have any further recommendations for the study of eastern philosophy?
>>768338180
What’s your take on a sperg using dmt?
>>768339807
I haven't entirely integrated my Shadow (yet) but we've long since negotiated a truce. For me, changes like this always occur gradually, over time, as the heavy lifting occurs below the surface. I recognize my own archonic nature, but the Anima taught me that a lot of what I had previously seen as masculine, Goetic energy is actually just a dark and potent manifestation of the Anima. If you're not aware of the darker, more destructive forms the Anima can take, then it's easy to mistake her as one of the powers and principalities -- as I had.
>>768340043
Do you have much exposure to the Transcendentalists, like Schopenhauer and Thoreau? For Westerners, it's a good bridge between Western and Eastern modes of thought, as a lot of very basic concepts can be tricky. For example, in Eastern culture there are two Voids: the devouring Void in which all meaning is lost and the creative Void which holds all possibility before it's born. This can be confusing to a person whose subtext is rooted in Western thought when trying to understand the nature of, for example, Tao.
>>768339993
Is it wise to expose yourself to violence and warfare in order to learn and grow from it? I have heard that the incorporation of the shadow is an important step. I'm afraid of this path, but it appears to be the only way to achieve my goal.
>>768340762
>not op
>talk to an old person
>listen
>>768340237
Be wary of using drugs as a short-cut rather than a convenience. Psychoactive drugs function by mimicking chemicals either already present in the brain or which the brain is capable of manufacturing. This means there's nothing you can achieve with a drug that you can't also achieve with meditation, biofeedback, and discipline. The reason shamans use drugs is that they can make achieving a particular level of altered consciousness faster, which is useful when they're ministering to the spiritual needs of an entire community and don't always have time to fast and sweatlodge for days every time they need to talk to Grandfather Toad.
The benefit of reaching these states first the long way, however, is that you develop the discipline to handle it on the way. If you want to see what it looks like when someone who is unprepared suddenly has ego-death thrust on them, do a YouTube search for "salvia freak-outs".
>muh secret club
>no grils alowd
>>768340564
Such things have always been fairly intuitive to me, though I still have a comparatively western view of them when condensed into words I suppose, for example I'd refer to the creative void as the source but understand the use of the word void as the energy lacks potential until manifested.
I was particularly interested by the take on duality in the tao te ching, as my original question in the previous thread revolved around seemingly contradicting paths.
I will look further into transcendentalism, I wasn't aware that was a school of philosophy and it seems very interesting.
>>768340762
Incorporating your Shadow doesn't involve clicking through the back catalogue of Ogrish. Confronting and accepting your own Shadow nature is much more harrowing than pictures of autopsies and some squashed heads under truck wheels.
>>768338180
I’ve been feeling lately that as I sleep, I’m not sleeping, I’m aware. And I feel as if I raise and, though in darkness, can see all around me and am everywhere at once. It leaves me confused as to what I should be getting.
>>768341322
I didn't mean clicking through some guro threads, I meant picking up a rifle and walking through the desert with some grunts
>>768341020
Datura freak out videos are fucking funny, but I’d never want to datura just read about retards on datura who end up naked miles away from home fucking trees with no idea how they got there or why they’re fucking a tree.
What would Jordan B Peterson think of this thread?
>>768341225
The most important thing to understand is when the Tao Te Ching says that true words sound paradoxical, that it's not saying they ARE paradoxes, only that it's necessary for it to seem so because of the way the mind works. We create schema through contrast: hot and cold, large and small, male and female, good and evil, inner and outer, and so on. But these dualities are really just poles on a single continuum. So while it's useful to conceive of our natures as partaking in male and female, it's important to remember that these are ultimately the same phenomenon seen from opposite ends of a telescope.
>>768338180
>Jungian mystic here.
Stopped here.
Is this just a bunch of you going
>i think this is how it works
>is it working?
>hey bro is this working?
>hey OP i think this is how it works
>hey anon is this still working?
>hey OP I’m not sure so lets check
Looping.
Well?
>>768341461
Deliriants are tad different than psychedelics, bud
>>768341323
What you're describing is a hypnagogic state, and can be very useful as a tool. Remember that the world in which you exist is a symbolic representation manufactured in your head from a combination of your sense perceptions, memories, and expectations. This same machinery is used to manufacture dream geography.
A hypnagogic state is identical to what people call "out of body experiences." Your point-of-view in your representational reality can be moved anywhere you like with enough practice, though by custom we keep it inside our heads since that's where most of our sense organs are located and we therefore have the most accurate data. However, the brain is very good at wallpapering over missing data, drawing from your own unconscious. When you start moving your point-of-view around, you incorporate more and more unconscious imagery to cover up the missing information. So as you move farther from yourself in your hypnagogic state, you can explore your own inner geography.
Slowly & surely.
Stop me.
>>768341397
I have to say that I don't know. Probably can't know. My own Shadow is likely to be very different from yours. I once encountered it in a dream as a grossly obese, slovenly, sarcastic version of me, drunk and slurring the words, "I'm a BOOOOODHIST," as it staggered around, mocking me and exposing my deepest fears of being a fake and a phoney. I doubt very much that this is the image of yourself which keeps you awake and chilled at night.
>>768342291
>>768341550
Given that Jordan Peterson is an ally and apologist to the powers and principalities, he would no doubt despise me and my attempts to assist those who seek to leave their cell of the Panopticon.
Thoughts on Jon D and communication w angels?
>>768342752
Why do you say that? He seems to want people to adopt responsibility rather than slide into hedonism.
>>768342149
This makes a lot of sense. Thank you.
>>768339993
There's always a chance to fix something.
>>768342794
I haven't had much exposure to angels. I've never felt comfortable exposing so much of myself to entities with that kind of power; I prefer to deal with gods manifesting on a more personal level, through my own archetypal representations.
Having met the Men in Black, I've been exposed to the kind of raw "wrongness" that such entities exude and I'm not anxious to make its acquaintance willingly. As a mystic rather than a magician, I'm not required to handle power of that sort, so it's not really a problem for me.
>>768342894
What you refer to as "adopting responsibility" is really "knuckling under to the authority of the powers and principalities." The physical Universe is given over to the authority of the Archons; that's the sphere of their influence. I have no interest in their worthless baubles and false strength.
Many years ago I was brought to the high place and shown the nations of the Earth, where I was given the opportunity to hollow myself and begin the journey to material power. I politely declined and have spent my life in destitution as a result. There are much more potent sources of true power in the depths of the inner sea, where the Deep Mysteries reside.
>>768343670
/x/ is for the supernatural. Nothing in this thread is about the supernatural. It's all just applied psychology using a variety of paradigms.
>>768343786
>applied psychology
>paradigms
>Archons
>Deep Mysteries
>>>/x/
Point me in the direction to start. I have my own (likely not unique) ideas on the nature of reality stemming from vibrations introduced into a previously inert plane, that all that IS is a result of that vibration causing dichotomy between IS and IS NOT like cosmic binary, where the IS tends to coalesce with what is like it to reach an end state of perfection in oneness, a sort of massive cosmic perfect organism to move into a higher plane of reality and start the process over.
I've personally dabbled in ars goetia and both achieved results and paid dearly for them. I've been haunted and followed by things that terrified friends and family in the night.
I've seen strange things. I want to understand more and amend my own ideas with observations of the worlds both around and within me. Where do I start?
Where do I start reading Jung?
>>768344051
Perfect, with all the skinwalker and succubus threads. Nah, 4chan isn't the place to look for any of this. But if there's a potential lead on any board to knowledge of this type different that what I already have, I'm going to take the chance.
>>768344232
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>768344341
Why not spend your time elsewhere and let us waste our own with our delusions, then?
>>768339384
Confirmed for LARPing faggot.
What is the best way to know who is for real, who's not, and where the party is? How do you know who's worthy of being brought in, and how does one show their worthiness to know?
>>768344472
There's a place for that
>>>/x/
>>768344149
No answer? Confirmed bullshitter. Also do you talk to people in real life about this?
why all the >>>/x/ spam recently
>>768344019
True humility is a good place to start. Decades ago, I learned the danger of knowing a little bit of truth. I announced to the Universe that I was ready, that I was prepared to see everything, to have the scales fall from my eyes and understand things as they truly are.
That night I dreamed that I was in a church, facing the altar, while a storm thundered outside. I heard the doors of the church slam open and felt primal terror such as I had never experienced before and I could *feel* something terrible enter into the church. I wanted to turn around, but couldn't; I knew I had neither the courage nor the strength to endure whatever it was.
As I stood there, it leaped on my back. It was small and thin and wiry and immensely, immeasurably strong. I squeezed my eyes shut and wept in fear for my sanity. It leaned in my ear and I could hear its sneering grin as it said, "Come on, open your eyes and look at me. I'm what you asked for. Don't you want to see me? You're a big, strong, brave man ready to see things as they REALLY are. Right?"
And then it laughed and caressed the side of my face and licked my ear.
I woke up gasping and absolutely bathed in sweat, soaking my blankets and mattress. For the next several weeks I encountered all manner of archetypal synchronicities until I was able to close myself sufficiently to shut it down.
I was never so foolish again, and now I can look back and shake my head at the degree of my hubris and concomitant danger.
>>768344801
Because you're a samefagging faggot.
>>768338180
Go back to /x/ you fag.
>>768344149
The Red Book and Man and his Symbols are a good place to start. Man and his Symbols should probably come first so you understand the terminology involved. It would also help to have a grounding in the alienists and early existentialists to understand the milieu from which he emerged.
>>768344621
Matthew 7:15-20
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
>>768344861
I'm >>768340043 faggot
It's been happening in all kinds of threads
>>768345127
Then it means some faggot decided to leave their appropriate board and anons are actively trying to funnel them back into their pen. /x/ is slow. Why make it slower? Why bring /x/ here, when /x/ is over there?
Where can out find the door?
>>768344728
I take questions as they come, one by one. Some of them take quite a bit of time to answer. As to your question, I have 25 years of experience as a mystic, and am a professional tarot reader. In case you're curious (I can almost guarantee you aren't), I explain to every querent before I give a reading that I do not have magic powers, I'm not psychic, and I don't commune with the supernatural. What I do is a form of applied psychology where I take advantage of the phenomenon of apophenia, allowing the querent to project their own unconscious onto the cards as a way of figuring out what's going on below the surface. Tarot is therefore useless for telling the future, but a very, very good way of digging into the unconscious mind.
>>768345263
In years of posting on topics like this here on /b/ I've been told to go to /x/ probably twice.
In the last month? At least 10 times. I don't even post on /x/, just occasional lurking.
>implying u know the way when this is the way and nobody knows this
>>768344828
The aim is to understand and to know my place in this universe, not to master it. I've already learned my fair share of convulsive lessons while fully conscious. The things banging on my walls and whispering to me and my company never waited for me to sleep. What's out there will swallow us whole in the end one way or another. This is my way of making peace I suppose, in learning what each of us are a part of.
Where do I learn of archons and principalities? Are there any primers on Jungian mysticism you'd recommend? This is something I haven't personally studied into yet, so I'd like a bit of direction from someone more experienced in it.
Don't get me wrong, I've never been unafraid of any of these things. Shit is terrifying when you start to even glimpse the edge of what's lying before you, but I can't abide my own ignorance and decide I'm whole as a person for it.
>>768344939
Thank you
>>768345385
To the cage? First you have to be able to see the bars. Once you can see them, you have to want to leave. The door to your cell locks from the inside, so all you need to do is know it's there, have the desire to leave, and then make the existential decision to open it. All of this will happen naturally and all on its own. You don't need to make any conscious decisions or make any particular conscious acts or rites or rituals. It will just happen when you're ready.
>>768338180
Have you ever read Jung?
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>>768345522
Let me get this straight. You lurk /x/. But you create /x/ threads on /b/? Yeah?
>>768345716
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>>768338180
Hey Jungian, what do you think of how Jung's works were used in NiGHTS into Dreams? Do you feel like it's a bastardization of your beliefs?
>>768345732
I lurk and post on /b/ semi regularly, mainly to shitpost but also to keep tabs on the demographic that posts here (I don't social media) and share knowledge when the situation arises.
I've been to /x/ twice this year. It's an interesting place but not very active.
>>768346131
I wonder why.
>>768345615
The terminology such as "Archons" is largely from Gnosticism, in which most modern religions from Christianity to Zoroastrianism has roots. The "Jungian" part comes from Carl Jung's attempts to decode the tropes, symbols, and rituals of various mystic and religious traditions to find their commonalities, thereby separating the parts which have universal applicability from the window dressing (and why Jungians are so adept at moving from paradigm to paradigm, sifting through each for useful hooks).
Jung's enlightenment occured because he was a child psychiatrist. He noticed that all of his patients began spontaneously drawing mandalas as the same age, and began researching the symbol out of curiosity. He soon realized that this symbol meant the same thing in every culture and religion, and began to suspect that there was a deeper set of symbols from which all mythologies, religions, and narratives are born.
>>768345690
How could I be a Jungian if I didn't? What a strange question.
>>768346190
Because it's a rather niche subject? I'm not sure I see your point.
>>768345944
Jung's work has been mined by many, from Tool to Persona. In fact, Jung is studied more by artists and musicians today than psychologists.
Your thread hasn’t disappeared so I hope you won’t open another with the same connotations implying that it didn’t hit the bump limit nor expire due to pruning. Oh well, have a good existence.
>>768348125
Not this time, no. But it got baleeted last time without warning or reason. The person who did it probably wasn't even consciously aware of being moved by the unconscious control of the powers and principalities to suppress it. I use this place specifically because I believe the noise and churn hides us from Eye, but we're not as hidden as I'd hoped.
>>768348311
Eye?
>>768348440
>>768338180
What's your opinion on tulpas? The recent trend of creating more or less permanent companions not the original tibetan lesson in illusion. I can see some potential advantages to the idea but it seems like a tricky subject, especially when carried out without without forsight or regard for the original lesson, as is often the case. I'm curious wether you'd consider this a bastardization of the original concept, as I imagine Tibetan monks would, or if you'd see potential for use in the concept if done correctly.
>>768346368
>in which most modern religions from Christianity to Zoroastrianism
Zoroastrianism is one of the oldest religions being practiced. Do you kust make this shit up?
> He noticed that all of his patients began spontaneously drawing mandalas as the same age
He also fabricated a lot of his evidence so don't read too much into that. He also dismissed much of the Eastern philosophy he studied as superstition and mysticism when it in fact better represented the things he was trying to articulate.
>>768348560
Creating a thoughtform is always risky, doubly so if you're intentionally creating a permanent one. At the start it will be simple, no different than a servitor, but the longer it exists and the more interaction you have with it, the more memories of its own it accrues and the more complex it becomes.
This can be particularly dangerous if you're manifesting a strong archetype such as a god. I have experimented with manifesting gods and demons for specific purposes in the past. For example, trickster gods such as Coyote and Loki are very good at dealing with bureaucracies and telling them exactly what they want to know. Too good. You end up manifesting them again and again, and each time they are easier to call up. They begin emerging on their own in everyday situations without even being consciously aware that it's happening.
Never make anything you can't unmake.
>>768348520
Ah. Proto form of unified consciousness. Believing they've a will separate from the conscious cosmic.
I wonder why they use those tenets of universal entanglement to attempt to force separation, surely they have to have realized by now that they cannot become gods and that they're just another link in the chain, they're fated to assimilation like everything else.
>>768348838
In the Book Palahvi, the Zoroastrians describe the same planetary Archons you'll find from Juda to Babylon. I don't "make this shit up."
As for Jung, I don't worship the man, nor do I take his writings as doctrine or holy writ. I'm not sure why you think his fallibility would be problematic. Hell, the man supported the Nazi Party at one time. He was a man like any other, who made mistakes.
>>768349066
Oh, the Archons are well aware that their authority holds no deeper than the surface, and it's why they work so hard to keep everyone in the cells of their Panopticon, and why they seed the world with fnords to catch those on whom their conditioning has broken. The secrets I reveal in these threads are the same ones the inner circles of the Freemasons and Rosicruscians and Skull & Bones and other esoteric secret societies teach, and use as leverage to rule the physical world. The difference is I use these truths to help people find their way deeper into the inner sea, where the powers and principalities hold no sway.
>>768338180
Teach me a spell and I'll stream myself trying it.
Also RPing as an evil gnome wizard in D&D next week, gonna be sick, the goliath wants my to cast spells while sitting on his shoulder, it's gonna be sick.
Are most religions and pagan beliefs merely views of the same forces beyond our scope of cognition, seen and experienced through each culturally developed filter of consciousness?
>>768350135
Not just religions; all of what we recognize as reality is a narrative constructed through the lens of our collective symbols. If we flip a coin 100 times and comes up heads 100 times, it is no more signicant to the Universe than if it came up 50 heads and 50 tailes -- yet it would be incredible to the point of disbelief for us because of the narrative we construct around it.
The Universe answers constantly to our expectations.
OP I said teach me a spell, any spell, dick growth or fireball or some other bullshit, if I can do it at all on the stream, well, idk, who are you? What do you want in return? Validation for your wacky beliefs?
Dear OP
In case you need this.
Keep going.
>>768350672
Oh fuck this is just a flat earth thing? This shit is stupid, I'm out.
spaceman looks pretty suspicious to me
>>768346131
/x/ is my favorite board tbh. It's slow but comfy. The people are nicer too. Sure it's mostly LARP and schizophrenics but it's fascinating shit.
>>768351121
/x/ is full of Qlippoths. If you're not adept at protecting yourself from parasites, then it's a bad place to be. Qlippoths swarm around places where the partially awakened gather.
>>768351270
First time encountering this term, care to explain a little further? Is this more harnessing or subdueing?
>>768351438
"Qlippoth" is the term used to describe anything which has a physical form, but is without animating spirit. A hollow thing with shape, but containing only void. Beneath the Tree of Life there is an inverted Tree of Death which contains Qlippoth where the Sephiroth should be.
Human beings can also become Qlippoth. They are called different things: hollow men or hungry ghosts or vampires, but they all describe the same phenomenon of emptied-out husks whose existence is defined only by an insatiable hunger.
I'm feelin /x/-y I guess.
This mean anything to you?
>>768350823
No but it is a gift for the OP and anyone needing a sledgehammer to taken them out. It has nothing to do with the thread in any other way.
>>768351762
That is a gay speed camera
>>768338180
>Posting anywhere at all
>Trying to be hidden
>Literally contradicting yourself as a secret society.
Kill yourself 15yo
>>768351762
No. Do you have a dream guide or a spirit guide or a spirit animal? That would be the best entity to ask about this, as it's probably specific to you.
>>768352028
seems it's working then kek
>>768351755
I was walking the streets at night once, in the middle of a psychotic episode, and it seemed everywhere were these weird-looking people. I called them soulless ones. They all had big circles under their eyes and just seemed full of malice although they didn't try to interact with me in any way. Maybe they were just tweakers.
>>768352053
none of the above. I don't remember the specific context but I think it was part of a message in a photographic language, and I guess I felt compelled to draw what I remembered after waking up.
>>768338180
Welp, my wife seems to hate me, but only when she's drunk. She's BPD. She only hates me when she's drunk, though i must admit I've had my share of indescretions. When i bring things she's don I'm mocking her disease when i bring up her irrational treatment of my own indescretions, I'm calling it out as her"overreaction" and blaming her disorder. Wat do?
>>768352538
The next time you dream, ask your unconscious to manifest a guide for you. It may not come immediately, but your unconscious should oblige you by manifesting a personality fragment to assist in bridging the gap between conscious and unconscious. Usually it's the Anima, but it depends on your relationship with your own female nature (which in turn depends on the relationship you had with your own mother).
For me, the Anima manifested as Christina Applegate. She started appearing in dream after dream as a minor character until I eventually noticed. When I asked her about it she laughed and admitted she was my Anima. I eventually realized that her name was a sort of pun (which the unconscious loves): the feminized version of the Christ, plus a little gate to the apple representing the knowledge of good and evil.
>>768352979
will do, thx
>>768352824
Not OP but I'll chime in. That's a tough situation because any legitimate criticisms from her can be written off as a product of a disorder, so I can see why she'd be frustrated. At the same time, your wife is an adult who should be responsible for her own actions. Is there any way you can tactfully point out that her behavior is radically different when she's drinking, and suggest to her that alcohol should probably be avoided? I feel for you man, that's a tough diagnosis.
>>768352824
One of the characteristics of BPD is black or white thinking, so that a person is seen as either angelic good or demonic evil. I can't pretend to understand her or the dynamics of your relationship, but I think you would get a lot out of doing some reading on Albert Ellis' RET. It's the grandfather of cognitive therapy, and it based on the premise that we choose our own emotional responses.
You can't control how your wife acts and reacts, but you CAN control your responses. RET teaches how to establish this control over yourself, which has the power to allow you to exist with someone whose own emotional state is uncontrolled.
>>768338180
I have a condition called Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, and, as a consequence, a syndrome called Geschwind Syndrome. Epileptics, temporal lobe epileptics in particular, have always been noted in almost all things spiritual. have a strong compulsion to figure out all unkown things. "Who can make straight what God has made crooked?" No one, but I do believe that we can at least find the bends and understand the bends.
My background is in Christianity, hermeticism, and am reading into Rossicrusianism. I have delved into demonology but never have practiced goetia.
Please, tell me where I should take myself.
>>768345530
The symbol is flipped backward.
>>768353786
First, recognize and acknowledge that you have been given a gift. Gifts of your magnitude always come with a burden, whether it's depression, schizophrenia, or autism. Once, people with these gifts held positions like shaman, seer, oracle, or prophet, helping to maintain the spiritual health of the tribe. Our increasingly secular lives have eliminated these roles to the detriment of all, but nonetheless you accepted the extra weight of your gift for this life.
The first thing you need to do is stop asking others where you need to go. You already know the answer and are only looking for someone to give you permission to recognize it. Externalizing it a way to avoid taking responsibility for it, and accepting responsibility is the first step in return the locus of control over your selves to you.
OP, I had a psychotic episode last year in which i ended up in the psych unit and was diagnosed as bipolar with psychotic features. I'll skip most of it except for what triggered it:
>be me
>listening to music on youtube
>song i've never heard before comes on- "just what i am" by kid cudi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGbP_kTM4CA
>instantly feel primal attachment to the beat
>lyrics like "ain't no such thing as satan, evil is what you make it" and "every day to find sane's a chore, amidst a dream with no exit doors"
>check the comments
>there's shit like "666th like!!" and the names of my ex girlfriends randomly posted (this shit is gone now of course)
>grin like a maniac and say "oh my brethren, we've waited far too long" (still no idea why)
>go to facebook, a friend's wife posted an ultrasound of her one-year old
>there's a pair of fucking forceps in the xray
>another buddy posted at the same time "REPENT GOD IS SENDING THE DEVIL TO RULE THE EARTH BECAUSE OF ABORTION" (that's gone now too)
I was not religious at all. Was I somehow making contact with another plane of reality or was it all in my head? I know it sounds crazy and I AM diagnosed but it still feels like there was more to it.
>>768354404
May the peace of the Lord be with you!
>>768355373
First, if you're planning on surviving as a physical entity, you have to learn the skill of creating meta-narratives. That means being able to take a step back from your own thought processes and observe them objectively. In this way you can appreciate the wisdom of your direct connection to primeval archetypal knowledge but still maintain a "normal" exterior set of behaviours.
Anyone who explores the inner sea has had experiences like yours. Most modern psychologists believe that Jung himself was a self-treating schizophrenic, for example. He used to take long walks in the woods with his own Shadow manifested as a demon, discussing his psychological model. His wife tells a story about Jung becoming more and more paranoid and had begun sleeping with a gun under his pillow until she woke one night to find him missing and feared the worst. She eventually found in him naked and squatting in the mud outside, playing with stones and bits of wood. She thought he had finally lost his mind, but he had in fact just invented art therapy.
Your experiences are... your experiences. Whether they're "real" is a matter of linguistics more than philosophy or theology. The important thing is to learn how to eat your cake and have it too by developing the ability to have those experiences AND to maintain a traditional persona capable of passing unnoticed among the sleepers.
What have you to say about New Orleans?
>>768355899
And with you.
(Yes, I was raised Catholic. When my mother died and the priest came for the final blessing, I was in the room and he asked me if I was a Catholic. I told him I had been baptized, but I don't go to church and I am an atheist. He nodded and said, "So you're a Catholic.")
>>768356025
>The important thing is to learn how to eat your cake and have it too by developing the ability to have those experiences AND to maintain a traditional persona capable of passing unnoticed among the sleepers.
I've been working at it. I'd like to visit that ascended state without losing my fucking mind, which of course is what happened last time. Any tips for seeing the invisible world that won't lead to the psych unit?
>>768356164
Never been there, so I have no idea. But places DO have their own identities and natures and personalities. I remember visiting Vancouver and feeling really uncomfortable in a particular neighborhood. I couldn't put my finger on it, but the air seemed heavy, like there wasn't enough oxygen, and I always had that someone-over-my-shoulder feeling. When I told someone about it, he told me that the house belonging to Clifford Olsen -- the country's most prolific serial killer -- had been there, where he had tortured, raped and murdered children.
>>768356571
It helps to have rituals and props which you can use to induce auto-suggestion. A medicine bag, for example, is a particularly potent totem. You make it yourself from items with special significance to you. No one but you ever sees its contents and you draw spiritual strength from it. But everything from phylacteries to masks to hats have been used to help ground adepts in the physical and close the doors of perception when necessary.
Do you have a preferred paradigm you use? Over time, when the traditions become so ingrained that you can use them without conscious thought, you can discard the props but probably won't need to, as they become comfortable like a pair of old slippers and are easy to slip on and off.
(Captchas are up to six pages now for me. It's really trying to shut me down.)
>>768338180
Do I have worry about the demons when I am alone in the coming future?
