tell me why you aren't running GNU/Linux rightnow
>>768319310
I've got Mint installed in a spare PC. If Adobe would support Illustrator and Photoshop on Linux, I'd use it as my main OS.
>>768319310
Was gonna dual boot kubuntu but i'm too lazy.
>>768319411
Do you need it for work? GIMP and Inkscape work fine.
>>768319797
Just put Kubuntu on a USB, you can run it without installing it. Great way to test it out.
I'd need to rebuy all of my steam games
>>768319310
lack of steam games support
>>768320249
Are you retarded?
>>768319310
Manjaro fag reporting in.
>>768320249
>>768320444
Which games specifically are you worried about? There is quite a library of steam games for linux these days.
>>768319310
Running fedora 28 on work computer, debian on netbook for porn/yt and debian on 2006 iMac
>>768319924
Really? Could you gib me some links
>>768320444
The trips exonerate you from the retard badge this time.
>>768320444
>>768320249
>Install PlayOnLinux
>Install Steam™ with PlayOnLinux
>???
>profit
>>768319310
Because I fell for the Arch Linux meme.
>>768319924
>Do you need it for work? GIMP and Inkscape work fine.
Yes, need both for work. I've looked @ GIMP and Inkscape and they're... lacking.
>>768319310
am am am
prod
>>768319310
Because my computer isn't running
>>768319310
Windows 10 does everything I need it to do, and it has more compatibility with my Steam library, Adobe Premier/Photoshop.
I’ve already spent many hours optimizing my hotkey layouts and it will never, ever be worth it to relearn how to use equivalent Linux programs and re-optimize my key bindings.
CentOS
For obvious reasons
>>768320690
For kubuntu? here's the download:
https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
pick 18.04 64bit and use rufus:
https://rufus.akeo.ie/
to create a liveUSB
>>768320856
Maybe check out Krita
krita.org
It focuses more on digital painting/drawing
>>768321141
But you're getting spied on
>>768319310
The fun fact is i am running now. Android is unix based, but otherwise i use Ubuntu 17.06 and soon i will move to elementary os or something more complex.
>>768321624
>>768321624
>Android is unix based
Android runs the linux kernel it's not unix based
>>768321228
Thanks
>>768321879
Well i messed up. Yeah it uses linux kernel. A heavily modified one tho. Btw there is android x86 project. You can easily use android on pc
>not using TempleOS
You guys will burn in hell
>>768322212
>not using CiaOS
They don't glow in the dark shhhhhh
>>768322619
fucking cia niggers
I have Kali on a spare laptop for work, does that count?
>>768319310
I need my PC to run and work, not to work for it to run
>>768322773
Yes
>>768320633
I also run Manjaro, pretty /comfy/
>>768322773
why not on your main pc?
>>768322980
Linux distros are quite user friendly these days.
>>768322980
You can set up linux system in about 5 to 10 minutes. No big updates, no extra paid software, no uncle sam to watch over shoulder, native opengl support, get wine... Hey now u can play windows games and run programs, wanna discord? Linux has it.
Its easy unless you have braindamage and can click 5 times to get region, keyboard settings, wifi and install button. Ez as that
Running Antergos + xfce is comfy.
I tried Manjaro and didn't care for it.
Does formatting a usb drive on Rufus usually take long? I think I fucked up by checking "check device for bad blocks" kek.
>>768323446
I run Debian, why is arch better?
I switched from Gentoo to Windows 10 a couple months ago because I'm a poorfag with only one laptop and Wine wouldn't run several games I wanted to play. Wasn't that hard to de-shit, can't really complain about anything so far besides the April update resetting a few things.
>>768319310
Because I can't go into a store, buy a scanner, printer, or some other geegaw and the CD with it has Linux drivers on it.
While there is a HUGE amount of driver support for a HUGE pile of stuff, you can't just go buy the latest-and-greatest thing and have it work out of the box.
>>768319310
Because Linux is a shit operating system for desktop PCs only used by neckbeards.
These neckbeards that don't mind spending hundreds of hours configuring their OS to make it able to perfom even the most basic tasks.
Once they are done configuring their (still inferior) OS with anime tiddies and custom terminal they don't do any actual work on their PC but go on /g/ to circlejerk and to try and justify their degeneracy.
Sure, you can no brain it and install latest ubuntu or mint, but the desktop enviroments look like ass with minimal functionality and are way inferior in general.
Also, no games.
>hurrhurr enjoy ur botnet 'snort'
everything is botnet today and every service on the internet and the state already knows everything about you, get over it. they dont care what porn you are watching in your basement anyway
>b-but you can use Wine and run the windows applications under linux
so im basically running two OS:es instead of one? how efficient.
>b-but muh open-source
pic related
>>768323591
>no uncle sam to watch over shoulder
jesus fucking H christ. If you think this, you're already lost.
>>768323720
For me it takes 5 minutes. Just dont tick it, it takes fast if you have linux iso file
>>768323937
Actualy.. Linux has good support for that shit.
>>768319797
Ewwww KDE, xfce ftw
>>768324010
>Because Linux is a shit operating system for desktop PC
there is a long-standing sentiment that "any day now" the killer desktop experience for Linux will come out. 20 years later, I'm still waiting
>>768319310
I'm not a fat drooling retard and I don't live with my mommy.
>>768324010
Good job, citizen, keep doing God's work.
>>768324030
Lost? Not like that. I fucking hate when companies collect data. It uses my internet what i paid with my money and it slows down pc and all other shit.
>>768319310
>tell me why you aren't running GNU/Linux rightnow
Because I use Windows 10 Pro for gaming, and ChromeOS/Chromebooks for work.
It.just.works.
And most secure OS too.
And soon™ it'll use Docker style containers, as it already does for the AndroodOS/Google Play store, to run ANY app from ANY Platform
> mfw, am a retired IT INFOSEC specialist who has worked way back then on DOS 3.x
>>768324223
U retard? Im fit 18YO and i use linux daily basis.
>>768319310
becuase i'm using macOS
>>768324331
But you live with your mommy and suck dick in her basement
>>768323720
It might take a few minutes, and if you clicked "check device for bad blocks" it will take longer. Atleast you're making sure that the USB doesn't have bad blocks, whatever that means.
>>768323812
Arch is a minimal install and offers great customization. Its package manager offers always the latest updates of software. You have to install it manually with commands, the arch wiki is the best wiki for linux period. It will teach you a great deal on what goes on behind a installation.
>>768323937
Actually most shit works out of the box on linux, no need to install drivers with a cd. There are handy GUIs for getting the drivers.
>>768324223
> Not a developer
> Probably has an art degree
It's always the losers with the art degrees that get offended and defensive really quickly what a c.u.c.k
>>768319310
Because the Nvidia drivers don't wanna run on GNU/Linux. I get it running for one screen but if I wanna use all my 4 screens it doesn't work. Because the drivers don't like GNU/Linux. I would switch if it wouldn't be such a cancer to get it running. I get stuck on the decrypting screen. It just freezes.
>>768319310
I am.
>>768324369
All part of the Unix family baby!
>>768324457
Wow what a dumb retort. Go eat some chicken tendies.
>>768324010
what are you talking about? You're ignorant.
>>768319411
This. I switch between Windows, OSX, Ubuntu and CentOS several times a day at work. OSX gives me the nice happy medium of commercial software and having a somewhat decent Unix style shell (Windows 10 subsystem for linux is trash, just run a fucking VM at that point) but Apple hardware is so fucking bad at this point that outside of basic use, their computers are almost unusable. I think at this point though, the only piece of software I use that doesn't have a port to Debian distros is Adobe (and of course fucking Xcode, but what can ya do there?). I'm aware there are ways of emulating a Win32 environment to get Adobe CC kind of working, but the overhead and complications are not worth it. Loving where this container shit is going with Ubuntu 18's snapcraft, I think we can expect a major move from more commercial software with it soon. Notepad++ working perfect on snapcraft container in Ubuntu.
I've had sex with a woman
>>768324435
Still, proprietary e.g. graphic drivers are optimized extremely shittily. So no playing games on there without decent frame drop.
Thus, Linux is absolute shit
>>768324030
You're naive, there has been conformation that this has been happening ever since Snowden, Assange, etc. It's been openly admitted.
>>768324414
Idk. I havent seen her for over a year. I still have school but she lives in another country. Ur argument is null and void. Leave thread and go back to dit dit reddddit
>>768324573
I'm not fat but I can't afford better chicken than chicken tenders which is probably what you can only afford you art degree you absolute
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>>768324308
>And most secure OS too.
Nope, why do you think it's most secure? It's not. Microsoft and Google all collect data.
Windows is better for gaming because Microsoft purposely makes directx incompatable with other OS's. But for everything else Linux is suprerior.
>>768324837
>>768324876
Fairy faggots that suck each other off
I have a mac
>>768324582
making bitconnect meme videos aren't work anon.
>cant even take a screenshot without showing off your terminal you've spent so many hours on
oh anon, you are just proving my point
>>768324308
Windows ecourages people to log in as admin. That is not secure.
>>768319310
I don't orders from you, you mingey cunt swab
>>768324954
Luckily there is Vulkan and VALVE is also really pushing Linux. They've been spending resources on Vulkan drivers and of course maintain SteamOS
>>768325002
You keep proving the stereotypes that broke art students are the biggest defensive faggots ever. The mountain of student debt probably keeps you triggered I feel for you
Jks I don't feel bad for art students. I would call u autistic but that's an insult to autists
>>768325304
Why are you so obsessed about art students? Did you get raped by one?
>>768325234
Yeah. If game companies switched to using an api which is compatible with Linux, Linux would become the suprerior OS.
>>768325070
I haven't spent any time customizing my terminal, the terminal is called Cool Retro Term and I used it to create a screenshot because I could show my internal specs and which software I'm running.
>>768324736
>>768324256
Haha you guys are idiots if you think linux doesn't spy on people. Remember how NSA worked on the SELinux kernel? No? Whoops.
>>768324945
>>And most secure OS too.
>Nope, why do you think it's most secure? It's not. Microsoft and Google all collect data
I said MOST SECURE in terms of hacking/data security, imbecile, learn2read
Here, you can learn too why ChromeOS is the most secure OS to date
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/how-google-chromebooks-became-the-go-to-laptop-for-security-experts/
>GNU/Linux
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies whereever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.
Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it. You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never excuted that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument. Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD? If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this:
>>768325638
>secure
>google spying
Pick one
Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag. Thanks for listening.
>>768323446
>why not on your main pc?
I have no need for Kali on an "everyday" machine. As for any other OS, it's mainly compatability with applications I'm looking for, which Windows will suffice for those needs.
>>768325381
I have a problem with people who are wasting resources providing nothing to society then act like their wronged in life
>>768325667
Ain't no one reading this shit nigga tf lmao
>>768319310
too intimidating
>>768325466
If you know what you're doing you can minimize the attack vector, you can easily sandbox and isolate programs in linux. Take a look for example at QubeOS pic related. It isolates environments with virtualisation. Security is a mindset.
>>768325466
Most people don't use SELinux for thier desktop.
Also because Linux is open source, the NSA has to super sneaky when trying to compramize the Linux kernal.
They might sneak in a subtle vulnerability, but if they do something obvious like have the Linux kernal phone home, that will get found and patched out super fast.
>>768319310
Fucked up audio mixing
Fucked up video drivers (no open CL, no 4k@60fps for radeon)
No adobe
No convenient way to use remote with completely custom set (kodi for example)
I don't want to spend my time on rewriting my tools for downloading / moving and renaming anime
And many other reasons.
>>768325819
That might be because you only are familiar with the pop culture view of linux. There are plenty user friendly editions of linux.
>>768325466
The NSA probably aren't using the Linux kernal for mass survailance, that would be too obvious and get patched out. If they target you specifically it doesn't matter what OS you use.
I run software on my computer. I need it to be supported on my os. Time is money and I don't have money to burn fucking around with a os when windows runs everything the first time.
That's why.
>>768325862
Because there's no way to break out of a VM and access the host OS.
The open-source Xen hypervisor is used by cloud computing providers and virtual private server hosting companies, as well as by security-oriented operating systems like Qubes OS.
The new vulnerability affects Xen 4.8.x, 4.7.x, 4.6.x, 4.5.x, and 4.4.x and has existed in the Xen code base for over four years. It was unintentionally introduced in December 2012 as part of a fix for a different issue.
>>768326085
if windows works just fine what makes linux any better?
>>768325862
Yeah but a virus can break out of a virtual machine.
Because fuck you, nigger.
Been using Zorin and Mint for a while can't decide which i prefer, lots of games on GOG and steam now support linux and my ps4 pad with blue tooth dongle works fine it still kinda blows me away that an OS is free and actually works this well.
>>768319310
I am
>>768326377
It's difficult for a virus to break out without a kernal or hardware vulnerability. VM's aren't perfect but they're a lot better than nothing, as long as everything is up to date.
Ubuntu Budgie checking in
>>768326338
>there's no way to break out of a VM and access the host OS
Maybe not directly to my knowledge, but if the VM is networked, the ability for any attacker/malware to access the rest of your local network is a pretty big hole in your defenses.
>>768326340
First of all you aren't tied to a single big tech company, rather a community of programmers all over the world. There are no annoying windows updates, no privacy invasion, you can get linux free as in gratis, no need for antivirus, and more technical reasons.
You can endlessly customize it to your liking or choose with the many different pre customized flavours.
Linux also respects your freedom, it follows the free (as in free speech) philosophy.
>>768326377
oh look it must be beaner ville. Hey guys don't get your car scraped by all these beaners. Shit we better leave. Watch out for beaners at the truck stop, just dont look at them for more than 5 seconds, you'll probably catch it. Well so long beaner ville im off to the U.S.A. Oh look at that kids, a beaner billboard, what a nice beaner house...you can even see the beans they built it with. Top job, well that was nice...oh wait what is that, a beaner vacation suite? Wow, why would beaners want to move out of beanerville, that beats the hell out of me ol bean, haha, white people....look over there, its a beaner -dream home- all white and shit, that's just a sign we're on our way back to the real country, no kids that's a beaner tourist trap, dont fall for it it really sucks beans...wave good bye to beaner ville kids, and say hasta la vista beaner city, hahah, as if beaners have real cities, no you can't go to the beaner theme park, what do you think i raised? A bunch of bean sucking bean-children? Oh well we better stop at the beaner-bath house, it's really hot and i could use a big bean gulp....oh fuck never mind....i mean lets go to 7/11, hurry, the beans are hot off the grill and coming back with a vengeance, i think i offended one by not getting a season bean pass at their bean theaters, oh zozzle-beans what if they catch us, we'll be mashed beans at the local bean-wrestling festival, and i just had my beans re-shelled, you don't want that kids, quick, lets get back to America land of Mcdoubles and Hashbrowns.
Kubuntu is an African word meaning, "Slackware is too hard for me."
Man up, use a real distro u fags
>>768325862
Most viruses take advantage of old bugs. The best way to stay secure is to keep your system up to date and use permissions properly (don't login as admin/root, maybe have aps that use the internet as a seperate user if you're that paranoid).
>>768326826
>>768326377
>>768326338
The Network layer and hardware layer are also isolated seperately
>>768327293
Also never install flash.
git gud
>>768319310
I am currently using Ubuntu.
>>768327379
Hello fellow Arch user. I'm also an Arch user.
Gonna test it right now /b/ros
>>768319310
When Pro Tools runs on Linux, I'll give it a thought.
>>768326676
>>768326826
If the Hypervisor has a vulnerability the entire system it's running on can and will be affected.
XEN
Advisory XSA-212
x86: broken check in memory_exchange() permits PV guest breakout
Advisory XSA-148
x86: Uncontrolled creation of large page mappings by PV guests
https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/
>>768327509
Ironically it's technically not arch. I converted an antergos installation because I was lazy. I've done the full arch install like 4 times now, and I was too lazy to do a fourth.
>>768327536
Eww it's a Mac. The absolute worst BSD derivative.
>>768327532
nice
>>768324715
the nvidia drivers run better for me on Linux than on Windows
>>768327358
Like that matters when a vulnerability allows an attacker to take control of your entire system, not just the guest OS.
>>768324010
Using fedora 28 daily for work. Making 4000€ a month (private military contractor). What's your fucking point?
>>768327579
Well there ya go.
>>768327587
I know that feeling.
>>768327705
The network mechanism is the most exposed to security attacks. To circumvent this it is isolated in a separate, unprivileged virtual machine, called the Network Domain.
An additional firewall virtual machine is used to house the Linux-kernel-based firewall, so that even if the network domain is compromised due to a device driver bug, the firewall is still isolated and protected (as it is running in a separate Linux kernel in a separate VM)
>>768327691
Maybe for a few select games, the majority of the time windows kills Linux in gaming performance.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pascal-win10-linux&num=1
>>768327646
Pro Tools has the best sound engine and the best workflow. It's what I need.
>>768328001
Reason>Ableton>Rest
>>768327939
Okay, your host OS is owned by a bug in the hypervisor but your network is still perfectly safe ... lol
>>768327968
well i only play Dota 2 and RotMG.
>>768327968
Are they mixing in wine wrappers with proper linux ports? Some companies just ship their directx games with wine wrappers instead of properly porting them to Linux. Linux games can potentialy be as fast as Windows.
>>768319310
>Look at this, offers, guys!!
>>768327646
You mean the one with fonts and hardware that doesn't suck balls?
>>768328713
Eh I like macs more than windooz but they're still shit. Just less shit because they're closer to unix.
>>768328713
hardware? we are fucking comparing software
>>768328108
Also, no Reason in Linux.
>>768327691
Are you serious? They don't even work for me. GNU/Linux isn't even booting with Nvidia drivers. The support is terrible.
>>768329014
well you aren't lucky i guess
>>768328269
If you'd read TFA nearly all games were said to be ports, only a couple didn't mention ...
>>768329014
it sucks when you're mentally challenged. keep using windows
>>768329198
>>768329014
Pretty much this -- any retard with half a brain can find the solutions to installing linux online. Doubly so for any issues presented, all it takes is the will to try.
I have mint on my "Web browsing" (read: porn and shitposting) beater laptop but for my srs computer I run Win 7.
Mostly for compatibility reasons. I'd love to run Linux on everything but for school and work I just need stuff to work properly and not be multi-day install, debug, update all the background stuff, Google error codes, on and on and on.
Compatibility seems to get better and better all the time though, someday I might fully make the switch when 7 becomes like XP is now.
>>768327532
Did it work?
>>768330668
Yeah, it's pretty comfty to be honest. I'm trying to install it right now but I think I fucked up, only 1 drive pops up and i'm trying to make a partition on a different drive. Any advice or should I go back to windows and make one there?
>>768330927
yeah maybe, I don't know. Could you make a screenshot?
>>768330927
Do you have access to gparted?
>>768319310
Because my music software doesn’t run on your nerd OS
>>768320647
the ones that arent on linux
>>768319310
Cuz it's 2018
>>768331082
>>768331097
I think i'm gonna make one in windows, as for gparted no.
>>768331878
you can just resize sdc2 to what size you desire and use the free space
I am. I am using arch.
>>768319310
>https://imgur.com/a/R2K4w2c
Thank me later!
>>768333919
fuck off pedo
>>768332799
Got an error earlier was "Grub error" or something like that. Currently getting this right now.
>>768334584
Mb for shit quality
>>768319310
I am. I've been running Linux since 2000, and exclusively since 2003. Been running Mint for the past few years.