The name of God is Yehovah.
Yehovah does not mean God, it is literally the name of God, what to call him if you were to talk to him
people need to learn this
https://youtu.be/hPJ9qSnESHQ?list=LLlFdoS9IdSvtovMVmF_mqkQ
The name of the god of the Bible is יהוה (YHWH, Yahweh).
No! The name of God is literally Pepperoni. Did I just make that up? Yes. Is my name equally empirically and objectively true as your names? Yes.
Quit fucking acting like you know some invisible spaghetti monster.
>>768188764
Why would God, proven he existed, need to give himself a name in man's language?
>>768189977
very wrong!
That is exactly what the 4 hours of history and translation of text I linked you go over.
Yehovah is the correct name according to the non cencored old texts.
yahweh is a mistake only possible because the name was attempted hidden
>>768190238
you are just a moron, even if you are not religious this is a fact that those religions have gotten wrong about their own faith and should correct. Also, if you don't believe in God you should learn more physics
>>768190303
why does it have to be a need?
There is a meaning to his name though, it is built from hebrew words meaning the past, the current and the future, roughly.
Yeshua means Yehova saves
name of god is allah you dumb fucking americunts
>>768190500
dubs for allah
my god is called The Universe.
>>768190377
More physics why? To realize God is real or? I don't quite understand the physics part, explain it to me
>>768190500
No. Al-Lah just means The God in Arabic. It's not a name.
>>768190377
>very wrong!
Nope, there's consensus among scholars that is in fact יהוה (YHWH, Yahweh).
>>768190377
im 238.
You just called me a moron then went on to make a retarded argument. Physics? tf are you talking about? Physics would prove your spaghetti monster false. Also, why are you so compelled to make sure that this spaghetti monster is called by your favorite name "Yehovah"?
>>768188764
>>768190377
>meaning
I was told it meant "I AM," as in ever-present. No other name necessary, because its the only name that is eternal.
>>768190575
the math/structure tend to make people realize there is a pattern made, you strike the match but someone came before you and created the formula's you discover
its a common theme that people get religious, and a common myth among the plebs that science killed god
>>768190602
the scholars literally did that on purpose to hide the name, watch the videos if you don't believe me.
The word you are linking is not even the full name, it lacks some letters and yaweh is based on best guesses but now we actually have the real name, the documents proving you and the other scholars wrong or liars is out in the open now, no need to protect the lie anymore, knowingly or not!
>>768190612
Its just the name according to judeo christian sources in Hebrew, we used to trust greek translations and just accepted that a lot was lost/hidden, but not anymore
And your spaghetti monster is not relevant to this conversation at all, the fact you think it is makes you a moron.
You have shown that your ability to think/argue is limted to repeating cartoons
>>768188764
Did someone say "Jenova?"
>>768190970
>watch the videos if you don't believe me.
Why would I believe the videos over the scholars?
>>768191347
Unlike the scholars that tell you its like this the video will literally show you the documents and it will give you the soruces and if you want you can go check it yourself
we also have texts admitting that the name is kept hidden and they talk about that too.
the videos are just history and looking at documents, some that never have been made public before those exact video were first aired
its national treasure style discoveries and the facts are solid and set in stone, no one can deny them, I invite you to prove it wrong, you literally can't
>>768191503
If it had scholarly sources then the scholars would be agreeing with it.
>>768191503
>prove it wrong
There's no need to prove conspiracy theories wrong.
what happened to loli threads
>>768191566
they will in time, if you want to wait for that instead of simply looking at the facts for yourself then you can do that ofc, but its fucking stupid.
Nehemia Gordon spent 18 years of his life on this and he worked with the Hebrew univercity of Israel.
Your ignorance is living on borrowed time regardless of what you choose to do.
>>768191650
>they will in time
Then at that time people will be justified in believing it.
>>768191786
nope, if they (like you) believe it because the autority said it and not because its a fact then you are a huge fool.
You are literally shoving your head in the sand.
>>768191910
You declare that it's a fact, but you have no basis for coming to that conclusion.
>>768191786
The only time to trust a scholar is when they operate as a book, only giving you information, the moment they tell you things themselves you should turn away.
Yehovah is the truth, straight from the hebrew texts, yaweh is based om assumptions made by people that had insufficient translations, and those translations were insufficient was because Jewish rabbies of old wanted to hide it.
>>768192033
only because you refuse to look, lmao.
My basis is literally the hebrew texts that have been used to create the bible
>>768191650
We're Expert Scholars! We'll have this all sorted out in a minute.
God's just his slave name yo
>>768192092
Personal interest in the status quo makes progress slow, some will resist it at first or claim its not interesting to them etc, but in time they will all be forced to bow down to facts like everyone else
god, shmod --
pls,
get this blather off /b/
>>768192222
Nice "get," but that statement is so heavyhanded as to be utterly repugnant.
>>768192170
God is what he is. Yehovah is his name
>>768192314
thanks for the bump though <3
>>768192343
still 100% true
>>768192083
>The only time to trust a scholar is when they operate as a book, only giving you information, the moment they tell you things themselves you should turn away.
That's a contradiction.
>Yehovah is the truth, straight from the hebrew texts
You have no expertise to make that evaluation.
>yaweh is based om assumptions made by people that had insufficient translations
Scholarly consensus does not agree.
>only because you refuse to look, lmao.
Because you don't give a valid source.
>My basis is literally the hebrew texts
Except it isn't. It's a video and one person.
>>768191234
the remake is going to suck sweaty ballbags.
It's spelt iehovah... sauce Indiana Jones and the last crusade... also google
>>768192386
Nah the whitey gave him that name his real name is chickeazee
>>768192400
You poor ignorant soul, go check why scholars think like they do and you will find that I am correct.
And you refuse you click the link because you are afraid of the truth. There are two people in the video, not that it matters. The videos were the first time and place that thee Hebrew University of Jerusalem and Nehemia made the information public.
You are a moron thinking that the video is like the trickster scholars you listen to, that they will just make claims but thats not what they will do.
They will bring up the document, show you where the original is (the reason its public is part of a digitalization process in the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) and then explain in detail why yaweh is wrong, where it came from etc
and when they translate Yehovah you will be taught the hebrew way of writing etc
its a reason they had to split it into 4 1 hour episodes, its a lot of information and they will ask you to look outside the video.
You are really trying hard to stay ignorant.
If you take the texts that actually show the full name of God to someone that can read hebrew they will tell you "Yehovah"
>>768188764
Theres like 80 names for god pleb
>>768192690
But none of those are the name of God, its just the name of another god or the word for god in a different language, big difference.
Would you say there are 80 names for the norse god Thor too or is Thor his name?
>>768192661
>go check why scholars think like they do and you will find that I am correct
If I found you were correct, then scholars would no longer think like that. That they do think like that means I cannot find you to be correct.
>And you refuse you click the link because you are afraid of the truth.
I refuse to click the link for the same reason I refuse to click on links from people who talk about Reptoids, flat earth, hollow moon, 9/11 was an inside job, etc. It's a waste of time even for me.
>You are really trying hard to stay ignorant.
Quite the contrary, you're really trying hard to justify your unjustified belief.
>>768188764
>God does not have a name.
A being such as a God would have no name; it would be far beyond such notions invented by humankind.
>God does not have a gender.
>God does not have a race.
>God does not have physical traits.
>pic unrelated
>>768188764
Apparently none of you fucks watched Indiana Jones, and have never had a annoying ass Jehovah's witness knock on your door before, how the fuck are there people who don't know this.
>>768192843
your defense is literally that it takes time for people to get the knowledge and you yourself is the perfect example on why it takes time: ignorant resistence. you will find that I am correct and if you know a scholar he should be interested in this, if he refuse to look then he can't be trusted, he choose to not know, just like you.
And the link is a youtube video, its nothing shady, I also provided you with the source itself, both the institution and the person responsible, if you don't want to look at a video (that you know is a officially aired program about the topic from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) you can easily find the information elsewhere but one simple fact remains: you refuse to look.
For you to find the truth here you need to look, I literally can't give you anything because it will always be links to sources, that you in your fantastically ignorant bubble have managed to make into something you can't look at because of some other non related topic.
>>768192408
Pretty much this. Going to be chopped down into micro payments to get the entire game, and it's going to be filled with so much burdensome cliche tropes your weebs love that it'll ruin the already fragile story.
thank fucking heavens FF is a dog shit series and anybody who likes it, especially what it has becomes, should mouth a shotty.
>>768192859
Only if you define God such that those characteristics would be true. Otherwise a god could have any of those things.
Y'all beta cucks, praise Nimrod!
>>768192961
I convinced Jehovah's Im a Satanist and now they come more frequently in groups fml.
>>768193089
>your defense is literally that it takes time for people to get the knowledge and you yourself is the perfect example on why it takes time
I want to believe things that are true and not believe things that are not true. I operate using the methodology most likely to accomplish that.
>you will find that I am correct
I'll believe it if and when that happens.
>And the link is a youtube video, its nothing shady
That's a contradiction. Anyone can say anything on Youtube.
>I also provided you with the source itself, both the institution and the person responsible
And as I've said, you (presumably) and I (definitely) don't have the expertise to evaluate the claims of this person. Other experts in the field do, and until they verify that his claims are correct we are not justified in believing them.
>you refuse to look
Because there is literally no reason to.
>For you to find the truth here you need to look
For you to find the truth and not find falsehood you need to use skepticism.
>>768193089
correction: it is not a oficially aired program, only that they finally support that the information becomes public and then Nehemia decided to let that program be the one to release the news first.
All the data is still just as legit though, I just messed up the level of support for the tv show
They do however fully support the facts and have made the documents available for everyone.
>>768193421
To be skeptic you need to look.
They will give you the tools you need to verify, the only reason you don't know this is because you are ignorant and don't know anything about the topic, because you refuse to look.
A skeptic would click the link as fast as he could to rip it to shreds, your actions show apathy and fear.
>>768193193
>Now they come more frequently in groups
All of my kek, gotta give em applause for still coming back after that though.
>>768193421
I want you to attempt prove me wrong because that process would force you to see the truth
>>768193584
>To be skeptic you need to look.
Not necessarily, no.
>They will give you the tools you need to verify
In order for them to give me the tools needed to verify, they would need to be able to make me an expert in the field. I doubt they can do that, and even if they could, that's a time commitment I'm not willing to make.
>A skeptic would click the link as fast as he could to rip it to shreds
Not necessarily, no.
>your actions show apathy and fear.
Apathy perhaps, as the subject itself really is of little importance to me. The name of the god of the Bible being something else changes nothing of substance. I'm more interested in your methodology (or lack thereof) than in your conclusion.
>>768193630
I have no reason to believe that would be the case.
>>768193421
"i would rather trust a authority figure with a personal interest in keeping the status quo than to check the truth for myself"
The very definition of a sheep, a man born to be a slave or controlled by someone else, a follower at best.
>>768193795
You don't need to be any expert, you had to in the past because of the reasons mentioned, it had to be a educated guess.
What changed is the fact we now have the direct translation, you just need to learn how to identify the difference.
Imagine I had a old book where the name of a person was clearly written, that book gets lost or hidden, people then use loads of time and effort trying to place his name through secondary sources, this can require some expertise
but if you had the old book itself you could simply look it up. But part of the reason it takes 4 hours to go through is because they also tell you the origin of yaweh, they tell you how scholars reached that idea so that you can understand the methodology and process yourself instead of having to submit to some authority.
>>768193825
I can't stop you from being wrong, your position looks really retarded from my perspective
>>768193825
the people in the video held your belief in the past, the TV show host actually have a DVD where he makes the scholars case for yaweh, but now that its possible to read his name in plain text he had to admit he was wrong
>>768190377
Yeshua means salvation
Kindly, an israelfag
>>768194050
>I would rather believe there exists a conspiracy to hide the truth from people and that I am privy to knowledge the masses don't have
The very definition of a conspiracy theorist.
>You don't need to be any expert
Yes, you do.
>What changed is the fact we now have the direct translation, you just need to learn how to identify the difference.
Which means becoming an expert on translation.
>but if you had the old book itself you could simply look it up
Not if you don't speak the language you can't.
> instead of having to submit to some authority.
Except that is exactly what you are doing, just with a different source that you are saying has more authority.
>position looks really retarded from my perspective
Same to you.
>>768190970
Mate there's nothing wrong with a pattern in shit. Formulas just exist, created by themselves in the huge powerhouse that is exploding suns.
Eh you wouldn't get it.
Preach some more, priest.
>>768194150
That he is convinced that he was wrong does not imply that I should be convinced that I am wrong.
>>768194289
And what is salvation if not being saved?
Appreciate the correction but seems like semantics, I'm not a native English speaker either so this is a big mess language wise, lol
>>768194395
when its a written fact you try to simply claim is different based on some educated guesses then you should be convinced. If you are not you are denying reality in order to stay unconvinced.
this is the simplest way I can put this.
old way:
>educated guess because we lacked the source material
new way:
>directly translated word because we now have the full word and don't need to guess anymore.
>>768194601
>directly translated word because we now have the full word and don't need to guess anymore
If that is the case then there will be mainstream consensus among the experts and then I'll believe it.
>>768194685
But I still think you are a fool to wait
>>768194764
My choices are to wait or to become an expert in something I have little interest in. The latter is a waste of time, therefore the former is the reasonable choice.
>>768194901
"This is the 1000th Hebrew Bible manuscript with the full vowels of God's holy name Yehovah, discovered earlier today (Jan 21, 2018)! The passage says "to serve the name of Yehovah" (Deuteronomy 18:5) and it has the full vowels! "
Basically the only "expertise" you need is to identify the full vowels of his name.
By your definition I guess you need to be an expert to boil water on a stove too?
https://www.nehemiaswall.com/1000-manuscripts-yehovah
>>768194901
I am starting to think that the main difference between you and me is that you find things I consider easy to be difficult.
What I consider trivia you consider expertise.
>>768195074
>Basically the only "expertise" you need is to identify the full vowels of his name.
The expertise I would need is to understand ancient Hebrew as the expertise to be able to verify the authenticity of the manuscript in question.
>By your definition I guess you need to be an expert to boil water on a stove too?
Apples and oranges.
>>768195204
Quite possible as many people find it easy to believe things with insufficient justification, whereas I find that to be difficult.
>>768195298
Why don't you trust the scholar from the Hebrew university of Israel?
>>768195358
no, you simply refuse to look, lmao
at this point you can't look because of all your big words, you have literally painted yourself into a corner. It is schrodinger's cat at this point and you have built your ego around that, the moment you lift the box you lose.
>>768188764
The name of god is Yeezus.
>>768195478
>Why don't you trust the scholar from the Hebrew university of Israel?
A single scholar is prone to making mistakes, which is why we rely on other scholars to double check their work. If he's correct, then it will be verified and become the mainstream consensus.
>no, you simply refuse to look, lmao
Because there is literally no reason to.
>at this point you can't look
I could if I wanted to, but I don't. Nothing has changed from my earlier observation that doing so would be a waste of time.
>you have built your ego around that
This conversation means almost nothing to me.
>>768188764
God is a word not a name, we know this.
most people aren't arrogant enough to say they know his name though. how could one presume the name of a deity that has never exposed itself? who did your god tell their name to? why do you believe that person?
>>768189977
Both are different ways of romanizing the same name. Both are correct.
>>768195830
He is not alone, there are other people helping him, its a huge thing that you just will never get to hear about because you will always refuse to look
you are skilled at finding excuses though, I'm gonna be surprised if you don't underachieve like mad during your life if you are anything like this at all in general.
>>768195979
God still had a name, I've just found it translated and am trying to share the information
>>768196246
no.
As it is written there it would be read as "adonai" I believe and if I am correct it means "lord" but again, this is all educated guesses by people that did not know any better.
>>768196797
>God still had a name, I've just found it translated and am trying to share the information
but the thing is, no one has every spoken to or seen your god. how would Man know its name?
>>768197105
different topic, here is the topic discussed here: people have for many years seen a partily written word and guessed at how it was spoken, now we have found the full written word and we no longer need to make guesses.
You believing in the god is a different topic, unless you're a mouth breader this is interesting purely from a historical perspective, just like it is when we talk about egyptian gods, if someone one day found out people have gotten a name wrong for years but then suddenly found it written in full, you don't need to believe in egyptian gods to appreciate the find
>>768197370
it's not a different topic.
you're trying to convince people they don't know god's real name or some shit. and I'm saying how could you know his name in the first place?
who wrote down the name? why do you believe that person? can you answer any of these questions?
>>768197500
it is a completely different topic, lmao
I am trying to tell people the exact same thing I'm repeating now: We have found new information regarding the judeo christian faith and that information is that the judeo christian faith have a God called Yehovah
We are not talking about the legitimacy of the name we are talking about the fact its real and written and then how its supposed to be spoken, something we could not do because it was written without its vowels.
now we have found the word with the correct vowels, that is all I am telling you.
And this is part of our written history, we don't need to consider your stance at all to discuss or confirm this.
it is also not one person but many people, they have gone through thousands of documents to see if they could find biblical texts and when they did they checked to see if the name of god was censored as history tells us the rabbies did or if it is written in full.
Now they have many different souorces showing the full name, its a historical fact that is what people back then called God if asked about his name.
its the name Yeshua would have said if people had asked him "who is your God"
>>768190377
>>768190575
>if you don't believe in God you should learn more physics
lol.
>>768190970
>the math/structure tend to make people realize there is a pattern made
True.
>you strike the match but someone came before you and created the formula's you discover
Not someone. The only kind of "god" physics really supports is the kind of vaguely hand-wavey everything-is-energy-and-everyone-and-everything-is-god sort of deal where you're not wrong because you can't be proven incorrect.
Is there an underlying order in the universe? Yes. But was everything created by some character from an ancient book of desert scribblings written by people who also thought the Earth was flat and that the sun orbited it, or is there an underlying aspect of nature hat sometimes fosters cooperation and resembles intelligence?
From a scientific perspective, which seems more likely?
>>768198143
there are 3 models of the universe that are discussed, intelligent design is equal to the multiverse theory and preferred by many, like for example the bogdanoff twins, as much as they are a meme they are still fiercly intelligent people working on quantum computing with years of physics and math behind them.
people like them will often tell you that they believe in intelligent design
People also believed the earth was round before they thought it was flat. The idea religious people think the earth is flat comes from what looks like a purposeful misunderstanding of how the directions of east, west, north and south gets described, ofc some have adopted that like the catholics but keep in mind that the catholic faith is about as Christian as islam. It use the name but the religion is vastly different
Just make sure Indiana Jones knows how to spell it
>>768188764
The name of OP's moms dildo is Yehovah
Yehovah does not mean god, it is literally the name of a dildo, what she calls out as she pleasures herself.
People need to stop spacing things like this, it tells us OP came straight from Reddit
>>768198541
>intelligent design is equal to the multiverse theory
No.
No.
No.
Plain wrong.
>>768198541
>3 models of the universe
What are they?
>>768198940
Intelligent design, multiverse and the third is some created from nothing idea I believe that I don't know much about because its not as much talked about, I have not gotten around to study it in detail but this is all major distractions from the actual topic at hand though.