Convince me to join the army over the marines, /b/
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Convince me to join the army over the marines, /b/
>>768126099
Marines in peacetime go insane. The fuck fuck games aren’t worth it.
>>768126270
The army doesn’t have similar games?
>>768126099
The army pays you more
>>768126300
They have their own. But peacetime army is a day job. Garrison life for marines is extended boot camp.
>>768126099
You can stop being Army, but you're a Marine forever. No kidding, they can call you up even when you're 90 and put a gun in your hand and make you shoot gooks.
>>768126099
I'd imagine there's more room for post-enlistment advancement in the Army than in the Marines.
>>768126467
Most likely they’d put you in a training cadre. But yeah there are some eternal MOS.
>>768126311
Join whoever has the best looking uniform
why not the navy? sun, water, and all the cock you can eat
I mean the army is cool but being a Marine is a cut above in my opinion. Sure it sucks but every branch has some shit aspect to it. For me it was the Corps because it was difficult. Nothing is given.
>>768126728
I don’t fuck with ships
>>768126867
>I don’t fuck with ships
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>>768126099
Currently enlisted in Marines. Peacetime sucks ass. It’s not extended boot camp or fuck duck games, but instead doing extra work to seem necessary, important, or still relevant even though we’re really doing nothing necessary, important, or relevant. Something like being tasked with finding which keys on a 100+ key ring set are still being used, and what keys belong where.
>>768127046
>no fuck fuck games
>here is an example of the fuck fuck games we play
>>768126610
The army is about to have these.
Former Marine here. It all depends on your job more than anything. Make sure that you doing something that you will enjoy and can equip you to get employed once you EAS. I was an airwing guy. If I did it again, I would do work on drones. There were some Big bonuses being offered to guys to lat move into that MOS.
Marines are the toughest and will make you harder. They also are the the most limited in scope. They have the least amount of job choices, smallest enlistment bonuses, yada yada but it’s more of a club than the army is. And every Marine goes through combat training regardless of their job.
Army has the biggest bases and the most jobs to choose from (but are more limited in aviation jobs). Army is a little bit easier but deployments are long as shit.
As far as fuck fuck games go, if you’re kind of a doofus, life can be hard for you under either branch. You know that guy in your class that people would pick on and would always get in trouble for some reason? Don’t be that guy.
>>768127503
What’s your point? It only looks decent on the woman. Maybe if the male uniform was actually fitted it would look better, but that’s a bad representation of the uniform.
>>768127776
>wing
Mos?
>>768127776
Not OP, but I’m looking into the military because my life is going to shit. If I was to be a cook in the military in say the marines or army, or even navy, how would I be set up to handle opening my own restaurant or something when I get out?
>>768126558
How does this explain the brand new corvette i was given upon joining the us army
>go online at goarmy.com to find out more
>>768127503
Whew, they really do look good.
I'm going to need about 15 seconds alone with this picture.
>>768128302
Mess hall cooks aren’t the same as restaurant cooks. That being said, every field cook I knew had a stack as big as any operator.
>>768128100
>mos?
Man of steel? I love that movie
>>768128536
My original mos was avi.
Convince me to join the army over the marines, >>768126099
Easy.
Marines work 6 days a week.
Army works 5 days a week.
done.
If you want to join the branch that'll treat you the most like shit, give you the worst equipment possible for your job, and give a shit less about you unless you are 100% in to being a brainwashed gorilla then go Marines. If you want all of that, but lessened by about 50%, go Army. If you want to fucking cruise and live a chill life while also enlisting, go Air Force.
>>768128302
What >>768128526 said.
You’ll learn the basics and can go to culinary school with your gi bill to take to the rest of you’re not that good a cook yet. With that said, if you like it, don’t let anyone talk you out of it.
armu bruh.
1. guaranteed job if you qualify. but like anything in the military still gotta pass the the training
2. airborne. or fir that matter you wanna do cool shit like jump from planes or helicopters army has more money/opportunities to go. the mariens you have to almost blow everyone for a simple recertification for a job you already do.
3. rangers. airborne rangers they make mariens look like the bitches they are. they have 5o sell their soul to attempt ranger school.
education benefits the armu has more opportunities to commission (become an officer) and pay for all your school aside from just the gi bill everyone gets.
op guaranteed job you want v what ever the corps wants you to be thats a no brainer
>>768129608
I wasn’t ever impressed with the Rangers except that, being attached to SOF they had more opportunities for training and less bullshit than conventional Marine Corps.
ITT: Marine POGS acting like they're harder than any infantry.
>>768129824
Well that goes to show how little you know about the military.
Rangers are elite infantry.
>>768126099
>Convince me to join the army over the marines, /b/
Stay the fuck out of the military, retard.
If you like Call of Duty run and gun, go Marines.
If you actually want to learn military tactics, go Army.
>>768130077
This
Why stay out of the military, so he can be a disgusting NEET for the rest of his life?
>>768129980
Yer. I mean. 12 years and 2 wars. Deployments around the Western Hemisphere. Multiple joint commands deploying with all branches of service; conventional, SOF, and NATO allies. Clandestine operations on 3 continents. Definitely didn’t give me a broad view of the military.
Does the army have something in basic similar to mcmap?
>>768130950
Combatives
>>768126099
because marines fucking suck.
be a paratrooper in the army. better jumping out of planes than fucking having field day
I’m joining at 25 years old. I feel like it’s gunna be weird at basic when I’m the oldest guy in the platoon. I feel like I’m gunna get bitched at by the sergeants more because I’m older and less likely to crack than the teenagers. Not that I care. I just think it’s gunna be strange.
Marines basic 12 weeks. Army infantry basic 17 weeks.
>>768126099
Do you suck dick?
If "YES" = Marines
If "NO" = Army
Not even kidding/trolling, Marines are filled with closet fags.
>>768126099
If you want logistics join the Army, Marines make do
As a Marine, don't join. It's all a fucking lie. There's nothing special about us. Marines fucking rape and murder and are bad people, look at the crimes in Okinawa or Marines United. Just join the fucking air force, you'll be able to brag to normies still and live really comfortably.
>>768132458
>>768132597
you a marine or something? i swear you dont really know the truth until you join and get through boot camp. then you learn everything is just a fucking lie/propaganda
>>768126099
A pussy like you has a chance of surviving the army.
Army if you want to learn and be a leader.
Marines if you're a stupid meathead.
>>768132751
>you a marine or something?
Nah, considered enlisting but went to college instead. Grew up in a military family. Watched a bunch of my friends and other kids I went to HS with join all branches back in 02/03. Alot of the Marines got PTSD and are completely fucked now, granted they were generally the ones with either the biggest chips on their shoulders or bought into the hype the hardest to begin with. The few I knew who joined the Chair Force are the ones that came out relatively okay.
Although every single one of them says the same thing these days, "DON'T ENLIST IN THE MILITARY."
>>768128100
6116 Osprey flighline mechanic
>>768132458
>Raping people in uniform, i'm guessing
I need video of this
>>768132458
>>768126415
Was former army infantry. We're always training or doing details yo prep for training/deployments. Besides being out in the field or rarely staying late to finish shit it is indeed a day job. I was usually in my barracks before 1700.
>>768126099
The army has gone full blown PC OP, the marine corps *combat arms* should be much more based.
Also, if youre going to join the marines join the combat arms. Theres nothing badass about a rear echelon marine, youd might as well go army and have it more kush; or if youre a nigger. Niggers love rear echelon jobs.
I'll break it down like this..
Respect for (perceived) intelligence:
1 Air Force
2 Army/Navy
3 Marines
Respect given for warrior ability:
1 Marines
2. Army
3 Navy
4 Air Force.
Use that to help you decide OP
Air Force is pretty cozy. I'm at my first duty station and it ain't half bad over here. If you wanna be a bad ass but still live the cozy life on nice bases when you aren't deployed, there's spec. Ops but I don't really know shit about them. Lots of relaxed office jobs in the air Force and a lot of maintenance jobs that lead to a decent career when you get out.
>>768131614
Faggot, youre not going to be near the oldest. Went to infantry basic with this guy that was 35 or some shit, had to get waivers. Didnt stop him none, dude was a stud.
When he got to his unit he qualified for scouts, made the grade and became a scout sniper.
>>768130950
yeah and no one gives a fuck about belts or their color unless youre a fucking leg wearing a riggers belt
>>768131614
when i went to basic there were 2 or 3 30yo people. hell some med training ive done has been with an ex neuro surgeon whos now enlisted army
>>768135935
t. does not know about Rangers, SOTF, and SEALs.
>>768126099
It’s not even worth joining right now. You’re gonna be living garrison life and hate it.
>>768136810
Depends on unit, prestigious divisions still have a high deployment tempo where as shit units stay home and fester in incompetence and toxicity.
your post is proof you are not capable of either branch.
>>768136755
Course I do you flaming cock knobler. That list was made irrespective of the Special Forces.
>>768134219
>marines got ptsd
I’m not trying to degrade the fact that ptsd is real, because it certainly is. But it didn’t seem to be as much of an issue with people in the past.
>grandpa was marine in Korea
>never wanted to talk about it
>was a great grandpa
>always played with the grandkids and took good care of us
>every once in a while when he was alone or something he would just freeze and blank stare off in the distance for a few seconds to minutes
>”what’s wrong grandpa?”
>he’d jump a little “nothing,anon. How are you?” And hug me.
I’d imagine he was having flash backs or something.
>>768138337
>Thousand Yard Stare
Your gramps has seen some shit, anon.
>>768126099
you're too much of a pussy to do either
coast guard is where its at, you can get military benefits to drive seadoos on lake michigan
>>768126099
die for israel
>>768126099
Cant marines are men and the army is essentially boyscouts
>>768139743
So i'm going to have rampant group sex in uniform like I did in boy scouts if I join the army?
>>768138337
>didn’t seem to be as much of an issue with people in the past.
Nah, it's always been around. Used to be known as "shell shock", "battle neurosis", or "combat fatigue". I figure most of it probably just went untreated. My grandad had it after seeing a group of kids get hit with WP during the WW2 Pacific campaign. Fucked up Vietnam vets were an example for along time, knew a bunch of them growing up. My uncle absolutely refuses to talk about Vietnam to this day and gets really weird if it's ever brought up. Knew a few cool old guys from Korea, at least one of them definitely had it. Knew a couple guys with Gulf War syndrome too, but that's a whole other can of worms.
>>768126099
I was in the army a long time ago. It's different now. Easier. The Marines are more proud of who they are. They also have a smaller budget. MUCH smaller. So they don't get things issued that the army does. There's a lot you have to buy yourself. Marines have to learn the names and service dates of first female Marine, longest serving Marine, ect... You are not a Marine until you complete the crucible and are handed your EGA. I was a soldier, fighting in the forced which guard my country and our way of life. My daughter 1 up'd me she's a Marine
>>768131764
13 btw, plus 12 more for ‘Marine infantry basic’ so we got u beat by a few weeks there champ
>>768140523
Army is 8 weeks. 16 if you go infantry. Marines is 16 weeks. All Marines are rifleman. Regardless of their job. Infantry goes another 6 weeks of training after the initial 16. Then their AIT training. Depending of their job in the infantry
>>768140751
Army is 10 weeks now for basic
>>768140238
I served my time. No regrets. But sometimes I wish I had joined the Navy. I think it would have been more fun
>>768140952
Wow. I guess it's been a while. What did they add that they needed the extra 2 weeks?
>>768140751
Army gets their cell phones on weekends. Marines only contact is through good old mail until they graduate
>>768126270
Tis true. Rah my miserable brethren.
>>768140751
>all Marines are riflemen
That’s not to say all Marines are infantry. Marine basic is 13 weeks. Then another four weeks of basic infantry school. POGs go to Marine Combat Training, infantry goes to Infantry Training Battalion. Both are at the School of Infantry. The curriculum is exactly the same for all Marines up to that point. After MCT, POGs go to their MOS schools, infantry to their weapons battalions.
>>768128302
Military cooks are pussies and every real serviceman knows it, including the cooks.
>>768128687
Wtf? Who said they work 6 days? Fuckin retard.
>>768126099
How about neither.
Join a branch where you can be in A/C most of the day...
If you don't actually want to do anything, join the airforce. If you like travel, join the navy.
>>768128895
If you want to be the hardest of all American military, go Marine Corps.
If you want to be a soldier that wished he was a Marine, go Army.
If you wanna be a total pussy bitch that no one respects (even civilians), go Air Force.
>>768129949
ITT: Army grunt tries to act tougher than Marine POG and fails.
FTFY
>>768130127
I can't laugh at this hard enough. The Marine Corps has, BY FAR, the most effective tactics in the U.S. military. Theres a reason they're the first ones in, because they get shit done.
Eat shit soldier bitch.
>>768126099
If you want an actual job after you get out, go Navy or Airforce.
>>768141353
Marine boot camp is 16 weeks. Then 4weeks of MCT Marine Combat training was in Paris island 2 months ago for nephews graduation
>>768130950
They have 'combatives'.
XD
>>768131967
XD you wish, faggot.
And the Amy is filled with open fags.
>>768126099
Marines if you want to beat your wife.
Army if you want to beat your husband.
>>768126099
I can't. The Marine Corps excels in every way except numbers.
>>768135935
Out of all the shit talked itt, this is the most accurate.
Best uniform s
>>768136755
Fucking idiot. The dude is enlisting for the first time, he needs to what branch before even THINKING about CONSIDERING SF. Git gud
>>768140238
Key words: 1 up'd
>>768141089
Boom.
Army = pussies
>>768141453
It’s a means to an end for me. Sound like a shitty thing to say, but I’m tired of banging me head against the wall in this dead end former manufacturing city
Join the army, or the navy's army? Either way you're a huge fag!
>>768126099
If you want to fucking march everywhere join the army
>>768126099
there is no glory in the marines. i know that sounds like a glorious statement, but take it literally. it's true. there's nothing but suck, the kind of suck you feel from getting robbed in a foreign country.
-marine
>>768142134
As someone with a uniform fetish, this one is in my top 3.
I think I like this one >>768127503 better though.
I won't join either because thats 4 years of no facial hair.
You're probably too feminine to grow hair on your face, so go marines.
BTW, none of my marine friends are doing SHIT with their lives after they got out.
Like they are partying and working mediocre jobs.
The marines was basically 4 years of paid vacation for them in Okinawa, Hawaii, North Carolina, Or San Diego.
My friend who is a crewman in the Airforce got to stay in Germany, though.
>>768126099
army has a lot more support jobs that actually translate to job skills.
>>768126467
any branch can recall you
>>768126311
nope
>>768126467
nope
>>768126816
nope
>>768127503
looks like faggy recycled britbong attire
>>768126816
Incorrect. Merely an incorrect image portrayed to the uninformed. A weak sales pitch
>>768127503
I'll believe that bullshit when I see it
>>768126099
marines definitely garner more respect, but having served on a mixed-service base, being near newbie marines is a huge fucking drag.
>i can kill you 21 different ways with my bare hands
ad infinitum
Anyone in the military meet anyone who didn't let that "military" identity take them?
Most marines i meet are wild crazy party animal shirtless douche bags, and ive known a few.
I want to develop myself when i'm there, not grow my superego and think i'm tougher then people because i'm in the army/marines.
>>768145624
Different anon, but the army has stated they're going to try and go back since everyone likes these better
>>768145781
join the airforce then. i havnt really changed at all since joining
>>768128302
Not so much more skillful than a Johnson and Wales grad or anything, but for dame sure will prepare you for cooking for huge crowds and portion stuff, etc. If you love cooking, it will open your eyes to cooking for crowds. Which is kinda huge if you have inborn talent but need restaurant owner/management experience.
>>768145523
Except these are WW2 army uniforms the brits had different looking ones
>>768128687
Nope
>>768145523
So post what is acceptable to you, then.
>>768126099
You will actually be useful instead of sitting on a pussy boat
>>768146017
>>768128302
My friend brought me to the recruiter and as i walked in said "We got a new cook for ya!" He was already a marine, and he made me see the recruiter because i'm NEET, i didn't join, even after they made me put the tiles on the table with all those cool words like "adventure, leadership, money" ect.
Basically, they were laughing at the cooks
take that with a grain of salt.
>>768129608
Anon, your points are salient...ISH, but your slobbering idiocy and gibberish spelling give me the red ass, so how about you huff a NEW tube of goddamn glue and try to unfuck yourself and communicate more like NOT a goddamn window-licking monkey-fucking retard sister fucker? Thanks.
>>768146250
>cook
Make rank faster and earn just as much as the other fags.
They're just jealous.
>>768146580
They did end up saying "can't talk shit to someone who handles your food" i guess
the friend who brought me in is a radio operator
>>768129824
Who the fuck is "SOF", and I'm pretty sure you dunno shit about shit, you leg navy pog. Marine infantry are the most undisciplined, dangerously irresponsible pieces of redneck/mexican trash I ever encountered in 22 years of service, you goddamn civilian Share with ME your fucking tons of inexperience so I may be wise like YOU
>>768129949
I know, right? Because they guarded Officer Country on their one float every 6 months? Or their 4 month "combat tour"? LOLLLL
>>768146580
>have no career prospects in civilian life, and don't get to do cool shit while enlisted, and wake up at 3am to prep mountains of food
That's why they laugh at cooks
>>768130021
We're WAY more than just that, my dude, but that's ONE way to look at it
If the military was like the show attack on titan, who would be the Garrison, MP, and the Survey Corps
>>768130288
Ol' Sarge is intrigued...DO tell me more. Let's get SPECIFIC
>>768146809
everybody gets that GI bill
What about the Coast Guard?
What can i expect with them.
>>768126099
are you a failure?
do you have zero real life skills?
join the military, the last resource of the brainless idiot
In the airborne you get 150 bucks a month more for jump pay (assuming you stay on jump status) and it's kind of worth all the tedious bullshit to jump out of airplanes, even if we will probably never do a mass combat jump ever again. Plus, you get to call everyone who isn't airborne a nasty leg
I don't think the marines even offer airborne school unless you get into one of their SOF programs
t. Airborne infantryman
>>768127776
>>768134822
>Former Marine here.
What years?
>>768131614
Not necessarily. I did a stint at Ft. Benning as an OSUT Infantry DI. ASk me anything.
>>768146773
First in, last out pussy.
>>768146248
>Bowties
No
>>768146809
because someone with cooking skills is less in demand than someone with shooting skills
>>768131764
MArines do 1 extra week of Basic Rifle Marksmanship than the Army. Only because we teach more weapon systems like the 240B MG. SAW, M14 etc. "Specialized" weapons organic to an Infantry squad besides the M16/variant
>>768128391
>base pay and bonuses are separate things? No way
Found the retarded private.
>>768132458
I dunno about all that, but I DO know they don't get paid at ALL during boot, and at the end, the Dept. of the Navy takes 1300.00 or so of their pay back for their uniforms. They are the only branch who makes their troops pay for their issued clothes AND withholds their pay during training. FACT
Navy E-6 here. If you want a military job that isn't combat related, go Navy or Air Force.
If you want to fuck Asian hookers overseas, go Navy.
If you want to have a family, go Air Force.
>>768142134
Good! They pay for them! Chumps!
>>768147354
Why are you spreading Fake News?
>>768147498
So? You want everything for free, you little bitch?
Marines are the stupidest most brainwash group of people I've ever fucking men in my life. Every one of them. I have such a hard-on for violence that they can't function in society.
>>768126415
I worked as a flight-line mechanic stationed at VMM 261. Once had a 90-hour work week. Can confirm this is true
>>768138337
We never talk about it to civilians because it's a waste of time, not PTSD. You fucks don't "get it". It doesn't make us mad or anything, but you fuckers have zero frame of reference. If a wardog talks to one of our own and we know it, it all comes out. You people would never understand, so we don't bother. Your mystery is solved. Spread the word. Not hating on you, anon
>>768126099
>>768147670
>they can't function in society.
Stop projecting, you whiny little man.
>>768126099
Pussy
>>768134822
No shit I was 6116 too. Unit?
>>768147156
What if I told you there's more jobs than just cook and infantry? A lot of jobs that pay six figures in civilian world and come with large signing bonuses
>>768147944
He's a liar, there's no such thing as a former Marine.
>>768147728
As a civillian with PTSD, who could not join as a result, I have managed to uncork a few guys and get them to spill their guts after convincing them that i'm just as broken. I can't imagine living that shit first hand.
>>768140751
All basic in the Army is Boot in the Marines. It's BASIC, ergo, males AND females, regardless of branch are taught BASIC infantry skills, even members of the Army Band. Soldiers are grunts until they graduate their skill schools. Period
Infantry skill school is their basic. Same DIs start to finish. Tearing that ass up 12 dead solid weeks of hate.
>>768141089
nope
>>768147354
Lol you get paid at boot camp retard
>>768141849
That's funny
>>768142563
Then go for it, anon
>>768126558
enlistment/reenlistment bonuses
opportunity for promotion
>>768148038
>muh no former marine
Your mo-tard is showing. It's a term to let other's know you EAS'd
>>768147973
AFSCs?
>>768148278
>It's a term to let other's know you EAS'd
No it isn't.
The Navy has the highest retention of any branch.
a guy on YouTube who did both says he preferred army
>>768132458
Not all marines rape
>>768145321
Not true. After 8 years enlisted, no. Officers are eligible for life. Every enlisted contract for every branch is technically 8 years, though. Active years and inactive years. Every branch except Army are minimum 4 years. Army gets as short as 2 years and up, but every enlisted contract is 8 years in length. Ask em
>>768145664
Made me laugh. Nice
Go 101st 3rd brigade if you want deployment.
>>768145855
Those are WWII uniforms, yo
>>768148585
Vintage uniforms make my cock rage. They just look more... Professional
>be disabled
Sorry America.
>>768148443
If you say so, kid. Don't stay up past your bedtime summerfag
>>768146580
Cooks and mechanics have the worst jobs in the fucking military. They work their asses off and have the shittiest fucking hours yet get to hear how shitty their stuff is. Thankless and treated like shit by the people they work their ass off for...I ALWAYS had mad respect for em
>>768146580
Army combat arms are faster, actually
>>768148800
Come down the The Swamp and say that to my face, you little maggot.
I'll fucking rip you in two.
>>768146974
JArheads get sent to Benning for Airborne school. Sometimes they send "Force Recon" dudes to Ranger school. which typically doesn't end well for them. My class graduated 1 out of the initial 48 they sent. Only 3 made it past "Zero Day"
Are military meals really shit?
>>768149057
t. 01-paper bitch
>>768148486
you're talking about reserve obligation. Not the same as recall
>>768147073
That;s fucking bullshit. 30 days max, Army takes over, back on your boats and gone. That's gospel, slug
>>768146974
Jumpimg from planes does affect your back late in life.
>>768126099
Marines die because they yell all the time, army is for civilized people who are trying to do jobs and not die
>>768147073
>last out
kek you better check your history
>>768149193
That must be why there's no Marines deployed overseas. Oh, wait...
>childhood friend married a marine.
I fucking hate it.
>>768149166
I'll give you a hint, I haven't had my real voice in 2 years.
>>768126099
You're on here so you're probably nonathletic. Airforce maybe since you can sit in a chair all day, but you're also on here so you're probably gay. Navy it is for you
>>768149417
>Airforce maybe since you can sit in a chair all day
Hope you're losing weight
>>768149250
Listen, you little scum sucking maggot...
First in, last out and always ready.
>>768149497
>last out
>in a box
ego-inflated bulletsponges
>>768149535
Pray for us anon.
Yelling increases blood pressure, yet how do they not get strokes?
>>768149634
Well oiled machines.
>>768147593
Go ask one. Find a Marine recruiter and ask them if you get paid during boot camp. Ask them if their wives(if they're married) have to sign a waiver acknowledging they won't get paid until they graduate. ASK
>>768149497
lighten up Francis
>>768146694
Special Operations Forces. It encompasses all of SOCOM. MARSOC is SOF. MARSOC is not SF.
>>768149692
>>768149688
They'll tell you yes because you get paid during bootcamp. They have to buy shit at the PX on base during bootcamp so they obviously get payed you mong.
>>768149688
just messaged my best friend who was a marine MP. You're full of shit
>>768148046
Then they were fucking lying. They were finance clerks posing. wardogs know our own. Marine or Army...grunts are grunts in both branches. I met Air Force pussies on full medical retirement for PTSD because they saw a fucking dead guy. Fuck you and guys LIKE you.
>>768149688
I'm a recruiter. Processing takes about 6 weeks, give or take. You get backpay on your first paycheck from the first day.
>>768147944
>>768148800
>>768149166
>>768149299
>>768149799
WTF I'VE GOTTEN 5 DUBS IN THIS THREAD
>>768148107
Not in the Marines, dickneck
>>768148567
Fuck those fucking meatgrinders. Bad idea, asshole. Unless you enjoy furthering an officer's career by a statline derived from you getting ground up. Seriously
>>768149965
Jesus fuck. They do pay you. But, they take out uniforms so your first paycheck is ~$300. That’s why they say you don’t get paid. Because you can’t count on a full paycheck and you’re a goddamn recruit so even a full paycheck is shit.
>>768149965
Are you sure? Because when I went through bootcamp Sept 14-Dec 11, 2015 we had to buy shit at the PX like smell-good, tape, [good] socks, and ribbon rulers. Guess what we paid for that shit with? A fucking debit card that's linked to the account you get paid through. In San Diego it's Pacific Marine Credit Union.
>>768149908
The ones that get me are the AF drone pilots on full disability for PTSD. They didn’t even fucking deploy. They played vidya out of Vegas.
>>768149965
give it up shitstain. We already know you're full of shit. The only instance where this could possibly happen is during a gov't shutdown
>>768149123
They're not awful, but they ARE big. Military cooks cook for thousands off recipe cards to a gov't mandated standard without much room for individual creativity. They can't even use spices much because of allergies. They put the spices on the tables, etc. Night bakers have the worst job ever. I know these things as a grunt retired after 22 years. Mad respect for those folks still. I'll miss Army breakfasts until the day I die.
>>768150381
DFAC breakfast is better than going to IHOP any day
>>768150325
Sir, that goat fucker is haunting my dreams.
Please help me Sir.
>>768149186
IRR means that if the baloon goes up, like George HW freaked out and started recalling IRR for Desert Storm, you get called FIRST...because you are legally obliged, and the gov't knows where you are until that 8 is done
>>768150436
Ended up at an AF DFAC in Iraq once. I was impressed with the blueberry cheesecake.
>>768150325
I did that in the army for almost 10 years. Seen people bleed out in the gutter, body parts fly from VBIEDs, fuckers blown from Strykers like ragdolls. I sleep just fine. Plus those cunts are mostly flight-school washouts or ancient, medically disqualified pilots. In the army and marines, enlisted fly them AND work the camera
>>768149199
Not all. I have 179 logged jumps, with roughly another 60 or so undocumented jumps, including HALOs, and I have reasonably good knees and no health problems related to those at 55. Everybody is different. I think I may be in the minority, though, in all fairness
>>768150520
that's right. IRR gets called first. Doesn't mean you can't be recalled after that period. I've had to explain this to enough prospects when I was a recruiter
>>768150761
Buddy of mine who was ANGLICO in the 80s got recalled after 9/11.
Sure....Army is WAY larger. More MOSs....jobs available, better opportunities for promotions, transfers to different units, quality of life, shorter enlistments.
Army offers two year enlistments verses 4 years for Marines.
Oh, most, if not all civilians don't even know or care the difference between the Marines / Army. If you're going to make the military a career, go for the bigger branch which offers more career opportunities...Army.
>>768150964
>Come talk to me about opportunities in the Army at my office. -Army Recruiter
>>768149299
You're on a 6 month float dipshit! LOL. When we were doing 18 months in IRAQ2 how long were Marine deployments? Air Force was 4 months, Marines were 5-8 max, as I recall. When we seized Kandahar airfield the Marines were there 30 days off a float, and the SOCOM Commander wanted to take their ammo away because they opened fire on the perimeter on camels or sheep being herded within range. When one dipshit opened fire, even accidentally, every fucking one of them opened up. This really happened
>>768151104
>let's let these goatherd raghead into our encampment
>shit explodes and half of everyone is dead
>well fuck, how did that happen?
>>768149908
Fuck you too, cupcake.
xo
>>768149799
Ask them if their pay is direct deposited to their bank account each month like the other branches or does the Marine Corps give them a PayCard to get it
>>768149706
This is Marine bullshit. Like claiming Force Recon is SOCOM, or Marine regular grunt units on floats are SOCOM because they got a minute of QRF training
>>768148585
The army is switching back to them for the dress uniform. Look up army pinks and greens
>>768149824
Was he married during boot? Tell him look closely at his LES when he graduated. Or how much was deposited each month or two weeks to his checking account during basic
>>768149910
I was one for 3 years. Army pays from the day you leave, as does the rest, most allowing the boot to determine whether he gets in monthly or every two weeks. Do spouses sign a waiver before a boot ships, yes or no?>>768150085
>>768150085
No other branch takes any money for uniforms. None. Not dress blues or anything else. None
>>768151834
pay is not determined by the branch. No policy is made by any branch regarding pay. It all comes from DFAS
>>768150143
Was it an issued card, or your debit card. Go back and follow the thread trail
>>768151964
every branch is given an advance on their first paycheck in the form of a prepaid debit card
>>768150348
You are definitely wrong go back up, start scrolling down about halfway through and deduce. It's called "The Suck" for a reason, anon
>>768151575
No. Force is special operations rated. MEUs are special operations capable. Meaning they can support special operations, respectively. Not that they are special operations forces. Special Forces are “Green Berets” and the only ones to carry that title. The nomenclature and heirarchy may have changed since you were in.
>>768150436
Damn skippy,/b/ro
>>768150761
It would have to be goddawful after the 8, and individuals aren't LEGALLY obligated any further, but I think they'd try before they fired up the draft again.
>>768152273
well, follow the replies back to the original post. I think you've lost sight of the point
>>768151326
Dude, that shit happens regardless of branch. Goes with the gig, but they were walking past on my flank, roughly 500 meters away, passing further on the oblique, not even looking up to where we were, when an asshole just opened up. 2 rounds downrange and every Marine on that perimeter opens up
>>768151382
LOL, you too "snowflake"
>>768151577
I cringed reading that, anon. Pass
>>768127503
that's a pretty big Johnson
>>768151941
The pay RATE is. Nothing else. Go dig after it. I'm seriously not making it up. I learned this from an war buddy Marine recruiter and I was horrified. We were both detail recruiters and weren't very happy about it, btw. Great guy
>>768152819
already asked three former Marines (I live in a military town). It's BS
>>768152045
Only in reception and only for a limited amount. No uniform costs ever. I'm seriously not making this shit up
>>768126099
Depends... Do you want to fight, or do you want to be some dickless POG?
>>768152091
Ranger battalions and SEALS are "Special Operations" along with SF. Force Recon is not, nor ever was. There may be a Marine SF thing now, but not when I retired in 2008, I don't know, frankly
>>768126558
MOM! I GOOGLED IT!
Go army. Become 35T. Get TS clearance. Meet aliens.
>>768152819
>>768152929
that's old shit. They don't do that anymore
joins army or marines no problem killing innocent people or yourself with guns.
Peacecorps qualifications is that you have to go to collage and waste time knowing how to be a good person to help people.
System is fucked and society is dead.
>>768152926
I'll go back to my original question. Were they married in boot/ If so, were their spouse required to sign a no pay waiver before they shipped? How much of their pay upon graduation were they docked for uniforms. No other branch does those things, period
>>768153206
anything that gets you a clearance is worth good money in the job market once you get out
>>768153402
Clearance to drop bombs for banks
>>768153385
yes
no
yes
But they went through anywhere from 10-25 years ago. That shit doesn't happen anymore
>>768149199
I just do a lot of stretching and make sure my feet and knees are together when I hit dat grass
>>768149097
Mostly they fail them cause they're marines, or so I've heard. Haven't gone to RRRAAANNNGGERRR SCHOOOOL just yet but I'm submitting a packet next week
>>768153206
Not a horrible idea. As an old retired door-kicker, I'd recommend, in descending order:
35P
35Q
17C
29E
29A if you can get it
>>768153359
Peace Corps is worthy of MAD respect
>>768153511
They lied. Ask a marine recruiter. Tell them you're married and that your spouse needs the money. Tell them she won't go for that as you guys have no family and ask how that works>>768153661
>>768154052
one's husband was a recruiter up until 2 years ago
>>768153148
Correct, partially. MARSOC was stood up in 05, and is part of SOCOM, making them Special Operations Forces (SOF), like SEALS. Force was never part of SOCOM, and were not SOF. But, they were special operations rated. Which isn’t uncommon. So are scout snipers and I’ve known intel analysts who were special operations rated as well. It just means they’ve completed SERE and some shoot packages, they can be forward deployed in combat support of SOF. MARSOC runs all their combat support guys through mini CSO packages getting them rated.
Again, this doesn’t make them “Special Forces”. That designation is reserved for Green Berets. On a side note, 75th Ranger Battalion, which was traditionally a light infantry battalion, got moved to SOCOM after 9/11 and has been the DA arm of Delta for over a decade. They’re damn near Tier 1 at this point.
>>768154052
http://bootcamp4me.com/homepage-tab-2/basic-housing-allowance-bah/
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?92216-BAH-amp-Family-Separation-Pay-while-at-Boot-Camp
>>768153661
Dude, good luck! Fuck crunches! Crank those sit ups! You have to pass the APFT to get in. Actually, I don't even know what that even consists of now. Also be ready for the turbo shits! One of the first things you will do is get issued a 2 QT canteen which those fuckass RIs will make you bleach and rinse. You WILL shit your guts out. NEVER throw food away during zero week AT ANY TIME! Best of luck to you, brother! I am NOT jealous! LOL I wish I had a way of finding out how you did, but make it or not, it takes a fucking set to volunteer for that suckfest! If you fail, fail, never quit, or you can never go back. Same with an honor violation. Godspeed, brother!
>>768154301
Dude, we been operatin' since Vietnam. Doing that dirt for the government. We don't win hearts and minds. We just stop their operation. LOL
>>768154205
Was she married to him during boot?
>>768154625
Thanks a bunch man. I'm pretty excited. Basically my plan is to go to ranger school, then eventually drop a packet for RASP. I know tabbed guys from other units are looked down upon initially by the 75th cause they didn't "grow up" with them but I'd rather come in tabbed and with some experience instead of being the unit-wide punching bag as a fresh op40 cherry
Dont do either, take a loan and go to college. When you get out of college youll have a better job and thus more money (more money = hot bitches)
Fuck going military , ya they pay for college and youll get slight assistance finding a job, but what will you be qualified for law enforcement, security, all entry level low paying 30k and below jobs , fuck that.
Graduate and get a 60k job starting off .
>>768154814
see
>>768153511
then
>>768154506 for info that's actually current
>>768154774
I’m just talking the official hierarchy here brother, as I understood it a couple years ago. And I don’t know much about Ranger history.
