euthanizing the mentally retarded, good idea or no? I want to hear you thoughts
bongs never saw a way to grow the government and pointlessly increase their taxes that they didn't like
>>768058570
bad idea. who would vote Republican?
>>768058570
>9 in 10 tards aborted
too good to be true
>>768058901
Could be because “The 1” left unexpectedly and left them without their wizard.
>>768059069
I know you're just joshin' about keeping them alive, because Democrats would walk over their own grannies for an opportunity to butcher babies and sell them for parts.
>>768058570
aborting isn't euthanizing. aborting downies, aborting people with MS, etc.
very wise choice. minimizes harm. end their lives before they have the chance to suffer.
Well, eugenics make me extremely uncomfortable. Can anyone explain why it feels so wrong? I know one person with down syndrome, my aunt is a care worker. I really don't know. I guess so.
>>768058570
I've worked in offices for school districts where they have to coordinate care and payment for the facilities and shit these kids require... I've also worked directly with them as students
I can't begin to describe how large a portion of our districts resources go to about 200 students total (out of roughly 5,000 total students). It's tens of thousands extra minimum PER STUDENT. If they need to be sent away to a special school, their home district pays. That's another 50k more minimum. Some families purposely adopt special education kids, they probably cost a cool million alone all together in one fucking household.
Working one on one, I've been attacked by several special needs students, including one with downs syndrome. The district plays up to the parents because they don't want a law suit, so the kids are in classes they can't handle and get angry/frustrated and lash out. The disturbances drastically lower the quality of education for the other 20 students just trying to fucking learn.
From the humanitarian stand point, I get it. It's a life and to end it based on shakey standards is off putting (why euthanize? We're not Sparta trying to militarize the entire citizenry, etc.)
But holy fuck these kids are just a drain on the system, their parents' sanity, and society as a whole. They provide so very little and take so very much. I think screening should be mandatory so parents will always be given the choice to terminate as early as possible. Though I don't fault any parent for deciding to keep the child, that's their choice, I do believe the choice should be explicitly presented and the challenges made clear.
>>768058570
They'll never be as productive as a normal human. Odds are someone will have to care for them when their parents die.
Why is this being debated?
>>768058570
With all the inbreeding in Britain I wouldn't be surprised if that 90% is a large amount of babies
>>768059615
Ok so no euthanasia. How about sterilization?
>>768058570
You know retards and mentally ill people get government assistance. The fact that there are less retards they more we benefit. In fact eugenics has a bad name, has stunted out evolution. Dumb fucks keep having kids the more the dumb fucks have the more money the government dishes out.
>>768058570
>euthanizing the mentally retarded
No, I'm against genociding the British
>>768058570
Very very good idea.
>>768058570
yes. good idea
>>768059857
I guess to be clear
>abortion: yes
>euthanasia: no
>sterilization:...
Are you.. retarded? You think people with disabilities come from other people with disabilities? Like there's some kind of patient zero? You think they get laid that often?
They aren't going to reproduce, that isn't an issue or solution
>>768058570
yes, the tard will no mater what have a low quality of life. why make two more people have a shitty life as well
>>768059524
Because it's still a human. Although severely defective. They probably won't understand that they're retarded, even if they do, nothing will change that. They will contribute nothing to society, waste parental resources, live a short life, waste tax payer money, and waste a doctor's time who could be helping someone who actually needs it. Yet people are reluctant to kill them in the name of morality and possible social backlash.
>>768060104
um, two downseys don't equal a normy, you retard.
if you know early then yes
if you don't know till late then no
i dont think you can ethically abort them after the 10th year
>>768058570
Depends. If they just have major Asperger not my decision but the parents shouldn't rely on government welfare too often. If the baby will be absolutely deformed, mentality of a baby forever and need a wheelchair then do it, nobody should live through that just to be mommys pet.
>>768059475
savage
>>768060104
girls with downs are sterilized because they fuck a lot and get pregnant nonstop
they're basically a human dog so it makes sense
>>768060241
well they use to die at 20, now science keeps them alive till like 50
>>768058570
There goes /b/
>>768058570
Sure. Why not?
>>768060404
b is smarter than reddit, 9gag and tumblr but hurrrrr b hurrr
>>768059069
The one's not getting aborted libshit
>>768058570
First they bitch that they can't have abortions. Now they bitch that they're having too much abortion. Is the UK like America where the left wants them to live so that more money goes to the state for assistance? Is the problem that it's technically discriminatory towards an unborn being?
>>768060104
permanent strain on their parents. and once the parents die, the state.
>>768059069
anyone who votes and thinks it matters, is mentally retarded,
>>768060507
Yeah b is super smart dude. I passed 3 comic book threads, a trap thread, and Andy sixx to vet here.Brilliant
>>768058570
That is a very grave and immoral issue! We need to stop this immediately! I 90% is unacceptable! We need it changed to least one hundred percent! No exceptions!
>>768058570
euthanizing the mentally retarded, no.
Aborting downs fetus to save parents a lifetime of misery, yes.
>>768060350
I can verify this is true
>>768058570
Bad. There's not even a eugenic argument since 99.99999999% of Downies are sterile naturally because of the extra chromo.
>>768060681
Zozzle
>>768058570
If we did that in America, republicans would not exists. Hence why they are anti everything
>>768060507
Too be fair a lot of those types of people are coming onto here now.
>>768060560
Thats how they do it, say one thing is a problem, that gets fixed the due to a short memory span of the people say that the solution is now a problem.
Its like how they said overpopulation is bad but now we are underpopulated which is total BS.
>>768058570
The problem is the test.
2 out of my 4 kids tested positive (before birth) for this disorder.
We decided to keep them all.
NONE of my kids has down syndrome.
THE TEST IS THE PROBLEM!!!!!
>>768060773
>Fifteen to thirty percent of women with trisomy 21 are fertile and they have about 50% risk of having a child with Down syndrome. There are few case reports of a man with Down syndrome fathering a child.1 Here, we are reporting a case of woman with Down syndrome, who had delivered a normal child. in 15 to 16 weeks.
>>768060895
you have 4 fucking kids? you are retarded.
>>768060706
/thread
>>768060895
well now see thats another side to this I hadn't considered. what if we're falsely killing those who aren't downies?
>>768058570
Good now if we can only find a way to isolate the gay gene.
>>768060745
yeah but in that retards mind they somehow don't get any
the men don't get many people pregnant the women get pregnant nonstop but he's yet to reply to the point
Inject a toxic cocktail into the veins of a downs paranoid psycho.
>>768060773
you still have to pay for the fucking thing
>>768060895
being a lying 13yo turd, that's problem
>>768061059
no.
I'm not a cuck that listens to the bullshit they teach you drones these days.
The other 10% make up the population
Ending a human life for the sake of convenience is the definition of evil. There's a reason the democratic parties symbol is an ass.
>>768061352
>implying human life has any worth
>>768058570
If it's a pre-term fetus then I have no problem, I think it would be sort of cruel not to abort a severely retarded/terminally ill child as they will have a lower overall quality/length of life or have a short painful existence respectively. If they're already born however then no
>>768061221
I wish...
If I was 13 I'd be the PussyDestroyer.jpg
>>768058570
We also need the Nigger gene, the Fat gene, and the Jew gene to be cleansed
>>768058570
"90% huh? Better fact check that. Oh gosh, it's a fucking lie. I'm stunned."
>>768061130
Not a problem. Better safe than sorry when it comes to abortion. Once they're born, it's too late.
>>768058570
it depends on how retarded
>>768061130
this is a shitty fakepost
the test is accurate and then later with ultrasound they can confirm
>>768061440
It does in the eyes of the law dipshit
the fuckin retards that makes these arguments are the same ones that dont want to pay into any social welfare programs that take care of the 10% of mongoloids that arent killed as fetuses
>>768061503
Your ignorance is astounding.
>>768060241
kek
Retards have such enriching lives dont they? Bumbling around, throwing shitfits for no reason at all, not being able to work hence getting money for free...
>>768061440
wew lads we got an edgy one
>>768058570
I want to believe
>>768061748
i cant tell if youre talking about women or
>>768061719
just as your tolerance, you fat nigger jew
>>768061719
Yeah, because those are all multi-gene traits not single-gene ones
I think they should limit the amount of kids people with lower IQs, Or make them take IQ tests before the procreate . Mentally retarded are a mistake they are genetically broken and need to be discarded. If the parents decide to keep them they should be taxed and not given money. I bet if there was a retard tax the "oh he is special " people would change that tune real quick and pitch little retard-o off the cliff like in 300.
¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯
I'm torn on abortion in general.
I'm all for killing children, but can't in good conscience allow women to choose.
>>768061623
Problem is all my kids are straight A students.
MY oldest is starting Pharmacy school this fall.
She tested positive as well.
She's a AP student.
>>768058570
usually i'd say good idea. but in this special (ehehe) case its bad because they would raise britains average IQ.
>>768059615
100% agree with you. I had left a woman who already had a baby with downs, but I couldn't see myself raising someone who will never become a productive member of society. Such a beautiful baby with an unfortuante outcome-- and yeah the mom was fucking gorgeous, educated, and sweet as a peach personality.
It was hard to leave, but I felt like I made the right choice to produce my own offspring who aren't leeches to the system. I still miss her to this day, though...
This thread is gold
>>768061352
pregnant women decide on their own to abort their downie babies, not the government
do you think they decide to abort their retarded kids because they don;t want them living in a world where democrats want to provide a decent life for them and leave them alone?
or do you maybe think they kill their downie babies because they dont want to force them to live in a world with fucking full-diapey crybaby republifaggots that are so fuckin obsessed with the idea of anybody but them getting (or donald trump) getting a free lunch that they want to eliminate literally every program that takes care of retards and shit
>>768061907
Fucking Kek
>>768059069
You mean Democrat, those potatoes deman a lot of gibs so they are perfect for the party.
>>768059615
people demanding special treatment cost many times what other people cost
sometimes the special treatment is for better people or benefits to society
i see nothing good with the tards
>>768061489
>not cunt destroyer.jpg
>fucking kids these days
>>768061932
So? If you'd aborted them, you would have had others. Or not.
>>768058570
Yes. Extremely good idea. Downs babies and retarded children in general are a massive strain on the parents not only financially but also psychologically.
It can be a living hell sometimes and WILL lead to weakened marriages, broken families and a stigma on both other family members and the child itself. Children are cruel and will make fun of other children for being different.
.t brother of a mentally disabled sister and son of a healthcare worker specialising in the field of special needs care
Trust me. It's not worth the stress, the sleepless nights, the stigma, the bullying, the financial difficulties and the list goes on. Next time you see a parent of a mentally retarded child say they love their child even more "because muh special kiddie", there's a 90% chance they're lying out of their teeth in a desperate attempt to cover up their hell of a real life.
>>768061675
Dude This test for Trisomy is don't at 16 weeks of pregnancy.
I'm not sure why you'd think someone would lie to you about this but half my kids tested positive for this, and none of them have it.
>>768061901
That would be awesome, only rich people would have retards and they could display them like a freak show
>>768062507
I for one don't mind if two of your fuck kids die to limit the amount of retards on God's green earth.
>>768062006
Pregnant women choose to end human lives through abortion and most Democrats support them.
There are more parents waiting to adopt than orphans. But I guess you can blame that on Democrats for supporting the mass murders on unborn children.
I dont get what point you're trying to make.
>>768062543
or carry them around in a gucci bag
>>768062711
Wouldnt you rather coat hanger your baby then give it away
>>768058570
Good
>>768062782
Hmm giving a baby life or death? Tough choice. Anti life arguments are full of great logic and reasoning.
>>768060998
Yeah, but who raises the kid? Just another burden for the state because "zomg human life is precious". It's not.
>>768058570
If this was a normal thing, you would never have been able to start this thread.
Save Downer Babies!
>>768063018
The current waitlist to adopt a kid in the US with special need is 6 months. There are plenty of families that can provide children with special treatment and love.
All you goyiums believing the jews...
http://www.pregnancylab.net/2014/12/the-ugly-stepsister-false-positive-nipt-test-results.html
>>768063176
Who would adopt a downy not me thats for sure
>>768063176
There's only a demand for it because of virtue signaling. These gremlims could have been aborted and nobody would have to deal with them. They're a disruption.
>>768062401
Agreed 100%. Loving your kid because he/she's your kid, warts and all, is one thing, but it's just sad to lie to yourself that you wouldn't be happier if he/she was insanely talented and accomplished, let alone just not retarded.
when my wife and I found out we had a down fetus we immediately aborted it. who needs that nightmare?
We need a new superhero, he goes to retard facilities and kill all the tards, what should his name be?
>>768063722
The Lone Wrangler
>>768063722
Euthaniziaman, The Finisher of Tards.
His symbol is a big E with a downie hanging from a noose from it.
>>768059615
This.
Funny how conservatards have no problem shelling out money for retards but get their panties in a bunch when it comes to anything that helps poor/working class people get ahead.
>>768063176
>There are plenty of families that can provide children with special treatment and love.
This isn't the reality for a lot of kids. I'd love to watch someone who is pro-life take care of a severely disabled kid. Guarantee it'd change your views on abortion rights by 180 fuckin' degrees.
>>768059615
Absolutely this.
>>768058570
If there were no more down syndrome babies there'd be no more down syndromies to make fum of. So bad idea.
>>768058570
In Britain, 90 percent of babies have down syndrome
>Let's be honest
I say kill the fucking retards, so many pros no cons lets cull some subhuman parasites!
>>768058570
Mongs bongs and wrongs should be aborted... And the Jews obviously
>>768065031
>conservatards
>no problem shelling out money
I see 10% still sneak through.
>>768059615
>I think screening should be mandatory so parents will always be given the choice to terminate as early as possible. Though I don't fault any parent for deciding to keep the child, that's their choice, I do believe the choice should be explicitly presented and the challenges made clear.
STRONGLY AGREE
>>768059784
>inbreeding
Do a search for 'UK Pakistani birth defects'
>First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children
>British Pakistanis are '13 times more likely to produce disabled children' says peer
>London borough finds one in five child deaths caused by parents being related
>Children of consanguineous couples accounted for 19 per cent of child death cases in Redbridge between 2008 and 2016, report shows
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-borough-child-deaths-redbridge-parents-related-cousins-pakistani-families-council-report-a7741146.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4567984/
>>768065587
The pakistani sluts need me to save them by breeding them
I think it's okay within a certain time frame of fetal development. Having a child with a disability will put a huge strain on you and what you can do for that child. I'm not saying healthy children can't do that but a disabled kid comes with a guarantee of extra difficulty.
>>768063176
it's been covered a dozen times but the government pays for most of that shit
that's the issue
All retards should be sterilized before puberty. I'll never understand why we stopped doing this. Anyone with an iq below 80 should be sterilized before the 5th grade. No exceptions.
abort the retards!
>>768065031
Nigga, ya don got yer parties mixed up again.
>>768059475
Good idea, because you wouldn't have responded.
>>768058570
I wish. I grew up with an autistic step brother and always had to spend time around his retarded friends. Some downies, various other things. They are genuinely worthless fucking people.
If you aren't a woman or have an over active sense of sympathy and you've every had to work closely with these people, you'll know what I mean. They can barely be trained to do basic tasks and most of them never get socialized properly. They are a burden to their families and the people around them that have to help them in school.
Then they start growing up, they go through puberty, which usually turns them into even more disgusting fucking people. A lot of them end up in jail for sexual assault. The ones that don't will end up dependent on welfare while maybe getting some kind of token job to make them feel useful.
Then there are the mildly retarded people that are out and about in life that tacitly fuck things up for everyone else they interact with. My favorite was when I was working retail jobs and they'd hire retards, and the retards would constantly be screwing up and putting everyone else hours behind on their work, and everyone just dealt with it like it was a natural hazard in the work environment. Fucking disgusting.
So yeah, I think the ones with obvious deformities should be recycled, and the ones that don't manifest until later in life should be put in labor camps away from the general population so they can pick their boogers and lick windows on their own time.
>>768066125
O rly? It's liberals who are anti abortion and conservatives who are all about helping the poor?
Gotcha.
>>768058570
that would be a hard government policy to put through
they could just discontinue support for retards then they are on their own
personal decision is an easy one, into the oven you go potato.
people should also be aware of extremely rare cases of things like senicide being currently required right now in deep government pockets
>>768066426
You got the conservative part right. Liberals just want to kill more blacks.
>>768066661
>You got the conservative part right.
>want to help the poor
>not at all concerned with protecting corporate interests and wall street at the expense of the worker
lol Jesus you're a fucking loser.
>>768067054
>triggered at own ignorance
Again, you got them mixed up.
>>768067170
They both do to an extent. But if you honestly believe conservatives are the better of the two in that area, I have a bridge to sell you, Cletus. Try not to give your sister a yeast infection again.
you just cant stop yourselves, can you?
I told my mom if the test had come back positive for me having down syndrome I hoped she had aborted me. Life generally kind of sucks enough already with out having downs
>>768067310
Both? You mean Democrats and Republicans? I completely agree. Neither of these are remotely conservative, tough, and fortunately both combined are in the minority.
Like I said, I think you're confused. You keep standing proud on that D molehill, though.
>>768058570
Great idea. Have a relative with ds. Imagine having a baby that never matures for the next 60 years. Real fucking useful. ~3/4 million dollars worth of food, medicine, time over their lifetime down the drain. Bad time.
Ok hear me out why don’t we create a plastic island in the ocean. Make everything as retard proof as possible and dump the degenerates there? Why isn’t there a corporation capitalizing on this it’s only be like a cool 10 billion to get it up and running. I’m sure we pay ten times that in annoyance and pretending to care while we grit our teeth, right? Albeit this will be a sort of prison but we have prisons for profit in America how is this less morally Just than that? Better than euthanizing the fucks..
>>768063379
what kind of a piece of shit faggot do you have to be to think anybody but 15 year olds, autists, and other pieces of shit even do 'virtue signalling'?
do all the females that run around caring about stuff actually care, or do they just all act that way literally all the fucking time?
has it ever occurred to you that maybe you and the people you listen to are shit and other people might be better than you?
>>768059524
>Well, eugenics make me extremely uncomfortable.
Why? It's the only way to keep the genetic fitness of the species now that natural selection doesn't matter.
I just hope selection isn't made based on dumb, arbitrary traits in the future and we end up like all those fucked up "high pedigree" dog races.
my take: I'd rather be dead than retarded
>>768067916
>virtue signalling
Dude, happens all the time. Remember when everyone wanted a daughter from China? I mean, that's close to DS.
>>768059998
kek
>>768068229
I bet you're pissed that you're alive
>>768058570
Good
It's a good idea, don't have children that will suffer and have others pity them. It's such a sad sight at the sped departments.
>>768061130
fix the fucking downy test
>>768058570
retards are parasites. Of course its good
>>768061907
heard it before but still top kek
>>768068229
agreed
>>768068584
no u
>>768068312
it's really not
as much as women are a drain and china is a cespool for genes
its way better than downs which is an outright burden without question