Does anyone here have wisdom you can share to an extremely suicidal, lonely, depressed, anxious, alcoholic 22 year old male? Tomorrow is the day I set for my suicide. I’ve talked with therapists, psychologists, taken medication and nothing has helped. It’s been almost three years and nothing has changed. I’m sick of the drama and pain that life gives. I’m tired and worn out.
Ironic, that picture of those stars encompasses nothing compared to the brain on your shoulders, the unique gift that life is. You know there is estimated to be more neurons in your brain than stars in the known universe? Whether or not you believe in God, your creative and gifted mind is the closest thing you’ve got to making your own peace.
Don't do it man you body is chemically trained to think this I know how it feels just pull through man it's only going to get better from this pit of despair we all live in
>>767985844
Spend time in nature. Humans are cuntbags anyways
>>767986235
I appreciate what you're trying to do but that neuron thing is just false. Even in our own galaxy there are at least as many or up to twice as many stars as neurons in a typical brain. That is still a shitload, but there are soooo many more stars in the universe than neurons.
Same situation but im sorta younger with no help. Just going threw it alone it sucks tbh. Wish people wouldnt find me weird just cus im quiet
>>767985844
Why would you want wisdom when you say you're going to kill yourself. Just lay down and wait. Or I don't know why you wouldn't do it now.
>>767985844
If you've realised your life is shit and have decided to give up on life entirely you are a loser and should go through with your plan.
If on the other hand you magically grow some balls and stop being a beta FAGGOT you would already know what to do, thus making the rest of this post pointless.
if you are alive then its a gift no matter what, people will judge and hurt because they are insecure
but nature loves you, food alone has so much to discover, girls youll meet friends and most of all expierence.. if you are truly not afraid to die then you can accomplish anything life can throw at you.. negative thoughts collect and attract more bs
OP you are still extremely young. I know you feel hopeless but you have SO much time to turn things around and live a full and happy life. I know it's easier said than done but you need to find a way to stop drinking. Different people find different ways of doing this - some need religion, some need a therapist, some just need friends to hold them accountable. No one thing will work for everyone.
The most important thing is wanting to get better to get you on the path to recovery. It's not going to be an overnight thing, it will take a lot of hard work, but if you just tried you'll find that the people you think hate you or don't care about you will be incredibly supportive if you just let them.
>>767986811
You are weird but you don't want people to find you weird.
Almost as if you're setting yourself up for some cognitive dissonance and then complain about it.
Kill yourself too shitskin
>>767986959
Procrastinating because his entire life hes been nothing more than a stain. Why would he magically stop being one noe?
OP probably recognises that his life's been one continuous pattern of being a shithead and feeling bad about being a shithead but he's never grown the balls to stop it.
>>767985844
If it comes to that point just run away from everything a new setting means people don’t know about you it feels like basically you’re a new person
>>767985844
Also suicidal and depressed 28 y/o male. Having goals helps me, set one and reach it and exceed it. I graduated near the top of my class and joined the peace corp. on my return im going to pursue a PHD and eventually eat a bullet.
After being 5150'd following my second suicide attempt I've come to terms that I will kill myself but so long as i stay moving and don't allow for a moment of stagnation I can experience this life just a moment longer.
>>767986235
you're an idiot. op needs help, not a faggot that sounds like a homosexual greeting card. i suggest you kys and op stay alive instead. faggot.
>>767987611
yeah for real. even if what he said was true (it's not, not even close) it doesn't mean shit. Knowing you have a lot of neurons isn't going to solve anyone's problem or inspire them. To a regular person it doesn't make a difference knowing you have 10 neurons or 100 billion, the problem is with their brain, they aren't going to suddenly appreciate what it is doing to them by knowing more about its anatomy.
>>767987270
Pretentious. There's probably a REASON for OP wanting to kill himself. You've basically gone and covered it up with a "yeah i understand but im ignoring your cries for genuine help. Just do this."
You probably sound like the therapist pricks who tell op to get over himself. Obviously that aint working.
OP if you are reading this wipe the faggot tears off your cheeks and make a genuine friend. They are hard to come by but try it until you succeed (dont give up like a faggot). Confess to them your secrets once you trust them and life will sort itself out.
Whatever is burdening you will feel way lighter and perhaps give you the strength to make it through.
>>767986235
>>767986782
It's actually the connections, not the neurons themselves. There are far fewer neurons than a single galaxy, but the amount of connections could approach infinity with higher neural plasticity.
Regardless, >>767985844
Why you haven't found "God" in the system yet? Why you think sickness? Why you think drama, and pain? Because you're depressed, or because you don't know how to not feel like that for long enough to make you feel like life's worthwhile?
>Why do you think quitting this time around excuses you from coming back to the same thing? Do you really believe the darking room is what's next, or that you can reset if you haven't been a good boy?
Oy vey
>>767987573
Where your friends at my dude? If one of my friends had this mindset I would bust my balls trying to make them feel normal again
>>767986811
People are always going to think you're weird. Whether or not you're the sporty type the popular kid the musical guy the nerd or the geek. There's always going to be a mass of people who hate you and disagree with everything you say.
FIND YOUR PEOPLE
>>767987971
did you even read what I posted you dipshit? I said there is NO ONE THING that works for everyone.
And you call my advice bad? You just said the same fucking thing! I even suggested making friends as a possible solution. Go fuck yourself you hypocrite.
>>767987988
No. Stop spreading pseudoscience. There is roughly a factor of 10 more connections than neurons. Even if it was a factor of 100 or 1000 it still wouldn't be close to accurate.
Plus like I said it's still a meaningless statement that isn't going to help anyone.
>>767985844
Im not even gonna read this shit, get out of the house soyboy.
Well if you are going to go out, go out with a bang. Go out and have fun for your last day, do some stupid shit, whatever man you got this. Act like tomorrow maybe your last day, you shouldn't care, just fuck around and not give a shit what everyone else thinks that's where real joy comes from, letting yourself go, crumple up those inhibitions and toss em cuz they don't matter no more. And then, when your done with all of this, you may also think twice about ending it all. Go out and enjoy what you got left bud, even if it may not be much, it may just give you an edge.
>>767988315
This is fact. There are between 10^14 and 10^15.
I have never heard of that many stars, and would love to see where the fuck you think is credible source discrediting it as pseudo-science.
>Fuck what you say is meaningless, your opinion is a moot fucking point, faggot.
Prove your faggot shit position or shut the fuck up about being wrong and accept you're less than a turd in a toilet bowl by comparison.
this is gonna sound fuckin stupid, but is there anything you want to hold on to? something you'd actually regret leaving behind when you died? That's something to think about. at the risk of sounding pretentious, stresses can accumulate quickly, and most recent stresses will always seem to weigh heavier. Having something to look foreward to centers you.
I just finished my winter semester at uni, and I felt like I was dying under the pressure. I wont say I had some groundshaking epiphiny to finish off with good marks, but when I dragged myself through, I took a semester off. I was so looking foreward to the three months resting, that it motivated me to do alright in school.
Hey OP, this may not be the best place to ask. your problems may be fake or they may be true. If they're true all i can say is that suicide is a permanent problem to a temporary problem and i lived by this motto when things got tough. Take refugee in a hobby ( guitar, programming, gaming, reading) I don't know if you will even read this but things only get better if you work on it one step at a time. maybe first work on your alcoholism. I too was depressed before. Obviously not to an extreme but i have also contemplated suicide before. And things have definitely gotten better. I have a wonderful girlfriend, worked out things with my parents and have a decent job that gets me by. You may feel your life is meaningless but you have every right to live it as much as anyone else. you are not worthless. steer your life with your own hands and as corny as this sounds be the change that you want to be. Find a hobby and connect with people with the same hobby. People need other people its just how we live.
>>767985844
Everything will always be judged no matter what actions you take so envision the type of person you wish to be and attempt actions that draw you closer to that image. Rome wasn't build in a day and neither will your life however every single time you take heart/courage to commit to those actions will draw you closer to your dreams or desired state. No matter we are all flawed and everyone knows this however to lighten this burden many seek to point out the flaws in other so that they might distract themselves from their own short comings so don't feel bad when someone points at you because its a sign that your remind them of themselves but even worse is your either trying to improve those flaws or have taken pride in them because you love yourself which again most people will hate as either choice youve found what they and everyone wants love through acceptance or change. At the very least remember that you are not alone all of us suffer some more than others yet through this suffering we will know what love is what acceptance is. You are the only you you have dont let anyone influence you to throw it away because thats exactly what the negativity in your life wants. Even now i want you to know that you are cared for because just as I choose to respond to you there are others in this thread who also dont want to see another person taken away by the negativity thats so prominent now. if you must YELL AND SAY FUCK EVERYTHING I WILL MAKE MY OWN WAY. Hope you will be ok.
Either you want to be better or you don't. The fact that you Meade this post shows that you're the former. The worst way to go about doing this is to constantly focus on attaining the fantastical happiness you think everybody has. You'll always feel like you're coming up short. Life is a struggle and the only way to deal with it is to live deliberately. Take a week and every day eat really healthy and exercise a bit. Be disciplined every day and you'll see learn what it is to live. Best of luck OP.
>>767985844
Don't do it until you have consulted with the mushroom. I recommend a 3 gram psilocybin trip.
>>767988708
>Rome wasn't built in a day
Sure, but it was finished in a single night. Same with the pyramids.
It was essentially "work your ass off with no end in sight, day in, day out, for 20 fucking years; with no guarantee what you're attempting to pull off will even succeed." Idk about you anons, but I couldn't give a fuck less about wasting 2 decades on anything without guarantee of some results before that. Fuck that flying on blind faith shit.
Don't qq till your at least 30. Just don't be that much of a bitch. Yeah, you may be tired but you aren't worn out yet. You don't know what that means yet. The trick is finding purpose. It doesn't have to be some grandiose gesture to the world, it can literally be anything. Find something you like doing, and build on it. Get a job, which will lead to different, better jobs and so on. It's not like you have to stay with any one job for the rest of your days. My point is, find a purpose, which is a hard thing to do no doubt. Start small.
tl;dr don't be a bitch, quite yet
>>767988988
Also try shrooms. Highly recommend
>>767985844
bullet to the head.
>>767987971
You just shat on his advice then gave an even more terrible one
>>767988150
i don't really have friends. I went to jail at 22 when i got out i decided to make a change in my life. got a job on a farm and put myself through college. people i grew up with are criminals or drug addicts, friends who aren't are getting married with kids and while I'm a very good looking educated man i have trouble developing lasting relationships because I know it'll only end in pain. The only people I speak with are my bartender, my students (kinder to 5th grade) and anons.
I get really sad sometimes because I feel like i abandoned everyone i grew up with and despite my academic success I always feel like I'm one mistake away from losing my job and going back to being a hood rat. So i try really hard to exceed my co-workers expectations.
>>767985844
>Go to a random beautiful city that is not in your country
>Type nice, sad, interesting things in your language into google translate on your phone
>Go walk on the road where there are people, preferably jogging/running
>Show them what you typed but translated to their language
Trust me it helped a lot.
>>767985844
gonna give it to u straight anon. Man the fuck up or get lost, that's how life is. Boo hoo you're a depressed alcoholic well guess what that's entirely YOUR DECISION. We live on an earth where some human lives are carried out as slaves that are worth less to some than the dirt they walk on. You live with electricity,internet, possibly a job and a car. People around you who will willingly help you. Some dont have that luxury. At least people like us get a chance you know, it would be disrespectful to others who have truly suffered to not even try
>>767989713
>not understanding that depression is physiological.
The worst thing you allowed yourself to do was get addicted to medication. That crap will sift away the core of your soul and it is designed to do you more harm than good. An anon here said that eating healthy is a good start, as well as exercising. That is indeed very true. Working out releases chemicals into your brain that helps you feel a little better day by day.
Also, do away with the alcohol. You're consuming medication and alcohol into your body and you wonder why you have such negative vibes. That is like putting soda and piss into a car and expecting it to run normally. You that healthy diet and exercise. That is your first step.
>>767989890
yeah just keep putting up those barriers for yourself.
>>767985844
What a beautiful shot of the milky way. I would sit outside at night and watch this view a lot. I can't see how the simple things in life can't help raise your spirits. Add small telescope in and the time you spend alone at night viewing the night sky should begin to change the way you think. You need to search for the thins in life that m caught your interest earlier in life and try and get back into them. It may bring you back to a place that just may help you towards better thoughts. Starting with the little things and working to get better is the best you may be able to hope for. In my case coming to this rats nest and getting a laugh at some of the posts is one of the little things that helps me cope with the crap of the day.
>>767985844
Stream it faggot.
>>767990085
>assuming physiological effects can't be treated
look, you clearly don't know anything about well anything. If someone is diabetic because their pancreas stops producing insulin do you sit and bitch at them for setting barriers?
Now what if anon has a physiological deficiency in serotonin? Would you call him a bitch for getting on SSRI's?
Or changing his diet and exercising to increase serotonin and dopemine levels? Or are we so grounded in the duality of mind and body to acknowledge that depression may be the side effects oh a physical problem? Ever heard of Junior Seau? or any other football player who blew their brains out after receiving a concussion.
shit is a troll thread. faggot is samefag bumping his own thread
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You may reincarnated into something worst op think about it
>>767990386
You talk about having no friends. I missed saying anything about that. I was a pot head. Then a dealer. I had hundreds of friends. Everyone of them where users and losers. I had 1 real friend. I found him in jr. high. He is still mt friend 44 years later. He has done a lot to change my life and help me. Brought a girl by my house for me to meet that had a crush on my for over a decade. I been married to her for 38 years. When I was poor he borrowed money from his family and paid bills for me. When we were kids he kicked the biggest meanest kid in the whole towns ass for attacking me. He has never asked me for a damn thing other than my friendship. Even though I have my wife for support. He is there for me now as I face surgery for cancer. I never asked him for his friendship. It started from a simple conversation. He was the baddest mofo in school and he picked a mutt like me for a friend. Because a few words of advice I gave him helped. Just get out there and try bro. It will happen. The world is full of ppl waiting to talk and find a person they can connect with. You don't have to be a fag to connect with another male and find friend. Coffee shops, concerts, school even family events> You have to put yourself out there and go through disappointments. Eventually you will find that real friend that will be with you till the day you die. Giving up is weak and to easy. Life is an adventure. Live it and find the things you need. Good luck to you.
>>767985844
if you die you won't be able to shitpost on 4chan
Said this to another dude rn but here
At a certain point numbness takes over. Tried to off myself on more than one occasion but after failed attempts and continued misery I’ve just accepted it and have my fingers crossed I die by accident some time. Otherwise finding a passion like art or music can keep someone around. There’s no purpose to life overall other than what you choose it to be. It doesn’t have to be a bad thing you just have to find your passions and fight for them. As dumb as it sounds I’ve found that being nice to folks when I have to interact with them helps too as leaving a positive vibe with people means when you’re gone you’ve done some sort of good in the world even if just for one more person. Hatred, misery, anger are all easier to succumb to than forcing some sort of joy but it can happen. Keep a commonplace book or journal. Take it everywhere with you, write to yourself, take misc notes, make it like your best friend. Idk if it helped at all but yee wish ya well man.
>>767985844
Usually takes a crane to get them out
If you feel suicidal read the Quran and give your life to God. You cannot go wrong.
>>767993941
Dude he said he wanted to kill himself not blow other people up.
read Man's Search for Meaning - by Victor Frankl
A life changing book
>>767985844
stop being an fag.
you're still to young to die.
it's a bait goddammit
>>767985844
Stream it to yt
Demons r real. Satan is real, evil is real, got to fight
>>767985844
>psychoLOGists
do it faggot
>>767995226
Faggots wear makeup like n ur pic
>>767995478
You could try living with nature. Studying ancient and Arthurian European mythology. That's what I did and basically recovered from a lifelong bout of depression.
I honestly do believe we can achieve enlightenment from the study of our mythology and ancestors
>>767996102
>mythoLOGy
>>767988631
>This is fact. There are between 10^14 and 10^15.
Not him, but even if this is accurate it's still not infinity, you fucking retard.
>>767985844
Just leave OP. Go somewhere else where no one would expect you to go to. Start a new life somewhere else. Explore the beautiful world we have before it’s destroyed or before you die.
>>767989217
Love is pain. And you can never avoid pain. You will always end up getting hurt but that’s what being human is. You can’t live by just avoiding pain because that just separates you from others. We live in a cruel world were we are disgusting, violent, selfish, etc. But we also live in a world were we share our love, kindness, and etc.
>>767985844
Have you done anything to try and change the situation that has you depressed? Or are you still in the same dead end job, same/no friends, same town you grew up with, living with parents etc etc.
Do something crazy like move to Alaska and spend the summer fishing, the money you'll make in 3-4months of doing that will easily pay for the next 8 months driving around in a van or RV having adventures.
ie: Stop being a little bitch. If you don't like something about your situation, change it. It's literally that easy.
>>767986644
This. If you live in a city and you're depressed it means it's time to get the fuck out of the city, OP.
>>767985844
I’ve been kinda sitting in a state of limbo like you OP. Life is really big, and the more you realize, the more pressure it adds to actually living it. If you’ve been using drugs, I would suggest stopping. If you have any known mental disorders don’t let it trip you out into thinking that the good experiences aren’t worth it. Or, your world isn’t making any sense, or seems pointless, which means you probably just haven’t figured it all out yet, which is okay. There’s still plenty of time OP. Don’t off yourself in the face of potential. Life may have no meaning, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t worth experiencing.
figure if its that bad, mind as well have some fun... move to a state with legal weed, get baked all the time, tinder it up
>>767996670
ah you misunderstand. Not pain for me, i can deal. The pain and guilt of a loved one knowing that no matter how much i love them or vice versa there is that little bit in me that prays i die and that it's only a matter of time before i try again, one of these days I'll succeed. No one should be forced to find the corpse of a loved one, i can deal with being alone.
>>767997507
Weed all the time actually sucks if you’re not a brain dead lunatic. Over time, smoking weed daily, especially in the evening, puts a blur between the sober days and high days, and, worse, a blur between sober moments. If you’re introverted or ponder yourself frequently, you can easily fall into a pit of depression. Also, if you’ve had an acid trip or a trip of any psychedelic which yielded a moment of Ego-Death, smokin weed can bring flashbacks of the sensation that Ego-Death has. And smoking weed daily, constantly feeling the ego-death, you eventually lose your ego. And that’s a pretty fucking empty life imo.
>>767985844
each person is different.
i'm a paedophile.
so i know how i will die, simple enough to work out. ill get beaten to death one way or another, if this doesn't happen when people find out about it, i'll prbably just kill myself.
however i don't live an life, i enjoy things, go out 4wding sing till my lungs give out while driving. the little things like this make all the difference to me, if i didn't do this i'd be so much more worse off.
i don't have many friends, none really. don't drink or do drugs, i'm incredibly lonely.
when i got arrested and let go again when it was all over shit changed. i knew i was going to die so i make the most of it with what i have. i put most of my concentration into work to keep me occupied. a week off and i go crazy making plans to do stupid
(suprisingly plausable) things.
TLDR: i stopped caring once i knew i was going to die sooner than later. made everything easier, so now your at that point go do whatever you want, your life might change for the better.
the only person who can do anything about this is yourself.
Life is too short to be suicidal, appreciate the small things in life. Stay around your loved ones and if you want to seclude yourself do it with something you love.
>>767985844
I was like you once, i was so suicidal i didnt value my life at all, then i took a 10k bank loan, went to amsterdam and blew it all on MDMA and hookers, then i just travelled once i ran out of money and worked along the way until i was deported, once back i had a clear head and sorted my shit out. Now im happy and contempt and live a good free life with a job i like, good partner and all the confidence i ever need. Doing stupid unforgettable shit will do you some good, and those memories are what keep me happy.
>>767986782
Funny you say that, seeing as though the earth is flat, and space is fake. Look into it man.