Why do liberals hate AR-15s so much?
>>767947961
they're baby eaters with unlimted ar47 bannana clipzzz
>>767947961
They hate whatever their "teachers" tell them to.
>>767947961
Because they aren't AK-47s
Cause it looks scary, it's like racial profiling but for guns
>>767947961
first, they don't know what AR means
second, they don't know the difference between a magazine and a clip
third, their main goal is altering the constitution until it favors illegal aliens and non citizens.
>>767947961
They dont
>>767947961
Conservatives keep murdering Kindergartens with them.
They still think AR means "assault rifle" lmao
>>767947961
because they're a symbol of freedom and super popular
>>767947961
Liberals hate anything they can't control.
I can't believe liberals hate this magnificent self cleaning, indestructible rifle that functions even when full of dirt and sand.
Conservatives like to pretend someone is trying to take their guns. Its a meme.
>>767947961
Anyone who is hard left is just as retarded as hard right. If you don't think there's anything scary about an AR-15 thought then feel free to take yourself out, you're not helping the gene pool any.
>>767947961
Liberal here. I don't hate AR-15s. I don't enjoy them. They're cheap and effective, but they're not that fun to shoot. It's kind of like a white trash gun. I'd never buy one. I much prefer my CZ 527.
AR-15's are like the toyota of the gun world. They get the job done, but they're soulless machines.
>>767947961
because they're ironically illiberal.
If they don't understand it, it must be negative.
Something given as much praise as a great, affordable, useful rifle must be the main enemy, despite the facts.
Pistols are used more in crime.
It's pretty fucking hard to get a gun.
bigger gun doesn't mean better gun.
Wooden guns aren't safer because they look sporty, they're likely able to do a lot more damage.
>>767947961
I'm really fucking liberal and I can answer this question:
Because the LWRC Six8 is a much better weapon that fires a round with much better penetration and flight characteristics. Whether you want to go join ISIS, shoot pregnant women in the stomach, commit suicide by cop in order to start anti-police riots or just generally plot the downfall of western civilization, you're going to want a gun that performs, and the AR-15 just doesn't cut it.
>>767950236
It's because Hilary wanted to deny guns to people on the "no fly list", you know, like muslim terrorists.
For some reason it's very important to conservatives that suspected terrorists can buy a gun without any complications.
The AR-15 is a meme - if you like it it's tacticool, if you don't like it it's an example of a gratuitous lethal toy with no practical utility. For better or worse the AR-15 has become the emblem of the 'identity politics' around gun culture in the US.
>>767947961
Because they don't realize that there are dozens of other guns that are just as capable if not better using the same rounds.
>>767950302
>I much prefer my CZ 527.
.223?
>>767947961
Because they look like a the trendy gay offspring of an m16.
>>767947961
Because they don't know what they are and think they look scary
>>767949937
>>767950410
Kek /b/ros. thanks for the laugh
>>767950689
Yes. American model. It's the most fun rifle I've ever had, and it's the only one I have now.
>>767947961
it's obviously just the bad press they've gotten from being so popular with the mass shooter crowd.
>>767949937
I wish it would happen more frequently
>>767950707
They are the perfect example of the tacticool shit that attracts right wingers to buy them in bulk because they're easily manipulated to flock to the arms industries open arms
I love guns, and I'm not a right winger. The liberal fixation on the AR15 is fucking retarded when there are plenty of other semi automatic platforms, but its really not that good for a gun to lose your shit over either
It's not the rifle so much as it's all those dead kids.
Why don't conservatives love their children as much as they love their toys?
>>767947961
Jews told them to, with their magic boxes.
>>767950902
If you can scrape up the cash, get a Six8. Ammo's a a bit expensive (6.8spc) but it's an awesome gun to shoot.
>>767947961
Liberal here. I'm cool with guns.
>>767951039
they love only their children. they don't care about anyone elses.
>>767951458
Caring about other kids besides their own would be like some kind of communism.
Simple-
Liberals are easily manipulated by shallow, visual appearances alone.
Actors, Actresses, smooth-talking politicians and the govt. they represent. Bright shiny new (pick something, ANYTHING), for the *BLING* factor they can point to and show-off to the other Liberals.
Liberals hate anything they're too afraid to handle, themselves.
The important things like:
Putting their lives on the line for what they believe in. They'd rather other people do THAT.
Mandating that everyone be forced to conform to their bleating 'Sheeple' mentality, because they lack the balls or determination to stand-up for themselves against violence.
Oh, and 'cause those 'Black rifles LOOK scary!'
Can't leave-out that last, most-critical element of their angst now, can we?
>>767950184
>self cleaning
literally ejaculates it's own dirt back into the action during normal operation
>>767949937
Nice try, cupcake.
It is the mentally ill who are committing these mass murders.
Their choice of weapon doesn't mean the weapon is at fault.
Their choice of committing such heinous acts of violence in these Liberal-Induced "Gun Free Zones" however? Perfect killing grounds.
Why do you Liberals support 'Gun Free Zones' where your children/others can be mass murdered so easily?
If you truly cared about your children/others, you'd outlaw such lies.
>>767947961
Fear. And the weakness that allows them to be easily led.
>>767951546
>Putting their lives on the line for what they believe in. They'd rather other people do THAT.
Damn straight. That's why my liberal ass spent 6 years in the Stan with a vacation in Iraq.
So some fat fuck like you can lecture the internet about "real" sacrifice from the secondhand computer in his mother's basement.
>>767951322
>Six8
they're great guns for sure, I've shot a couple, but I wouldn't buy one. I've got a fetish for wood stocks, bolt action, and cheap ammo.
>>767951717
Do you not realize that calling other men cupcake is super homosexual? I mean i get that you're trying to sound tough and superior, but you just sound like a leather daddy.
Because the media tells them to.
>>767951531
You're on to something there anon. We call these morons left-tards for a reason.
>>767947961
I bought one of these a few months ago. Very nice finish. Basic, but all parts are mil-spec.
>>767950374
>It's pretty fucking hard to get a gun.
Is it? Do you need a background check at a gunshow? Do you even need to be 18?
Why don't you fuck off, read up on some facts, and come back when you're ready to talk with the grown ups?
>>767952062
Yeah, I feel you. I used to have a thing for wood stocks, too. I grew up hunting, so the first time I touched an M-16A4, it felt cheap and fake.
It took years for me to start feeling like it was a real weapon.
>>767950707
the M16 is the offspring of the AR-15
>>767949834
Nigga wat? turn on cnn.
>>767952377
Vice-versa
>>767952333
Nice trips nigga.
>>767951039
this
>>767952424
not according to the article I read recently in The Atlantic. The m14 led to the AR-15 which led to the inferior M16
>>767947961
It's an easy target to try and convince weak minds to ban using the media. That will get their foot in the door of a total gun ban and confiscation in their attempts to take leadership of this country from powerful white men.
>>767952518
imbecile detected. Fuck off with your slippery slope
>>767952381
cnn was secretly bought by the right to make the left look stupid because they didn't want fox news to be the sole title holder of stupidity in news broadcasting faggot, stop being a sheep and think for yourself for a second out of the day
>>767951039
>all those dead kids
Just how many "dead kids"? Why don't they spend their time trying to fix the child suicide problem which is shitload more "dead kids" than the handful that die in the rare school shooting. It's because that would mean blaming themselves and the shit education system that we currently have. Guns are much easier to blame.
>>767952625
It's not wrong. It's widely believed that the 2nd amendment is the only thing continuing white supremacy.
>>767952508
You're *technically* correct. The AR-15 was designed to be a military weapon: the M16 (original) is just the military designation for the original AR-15, which was based on the AR-10. Neither of those two is in production any more because both were insanely unreliable weapons.
But "AR-15" as it's used nowadays refers to civilian variants of the M16A2, M-16A4 and M4A1; all of which are "technically" AR-15s.
>>767951717
>implying the mentally ill and conservatives are seperate descriptors
Because it's been used in a bunch of killings you fucking diptard. I still think it's a cool gun, but you can at least understand why they had the thing, not that it matters in the long run anyway. They'll be around for a long time.
>>767947961
Pen 15
>>767953004
*hate
>>767952803
We've got very different understandings of the situation. I'm not in a position to get into the weeds on this issue, so I'll just link the article for your own enjoyment.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1981/06/m-16-a-bureaucratic-horror-story/545153/
Granted I only read this article once, but my understanding was:
>AR-15 was made for civilians
>US used M14 at the time
>US adapted the AR-15 into the M16, making it a piece of shit
>Regulatory compliance/politics/military industrial complex/stupidity resulted in the AR-15's field use being sabatoged to prop up the use of the M16
>>767950184
>self-cleaning
Bruh
that is some funny shit right there.
AR-15's are notoriously difficult to keep clean enough to be functional. That's really their only weakness.
Because it's the current most powerful gun citizens are allowed to have, there's nothing special about it beyond that and they will reuse this tactic until people are completely powerless on an individual level be it about guns or just having any right to anything in general. "Liberals" are useful idiots who help the state maximize it's power over the individual that it might increase it's monetary return upon each "head of human". They are yes-men programmed by Hollywood and New York to be what the elite need them to be.
So ask the real question since liberals have no opinions of their own: Why do the elite 1% hate AR-15s? What do they think they'll be doing soon that we need our defense rating kicked down a solid notch? What do the 'police' need with 12 shot rotating drum grenade launchers and APCs? Deep in your heart, you know, you know it's coming.
Get the tracking microchip or go a detention center, that's just how it is. No ma'am, I don't know what center your son is in. Stop talking.
>>767947961
It is preferred massacre gun of american mass murderers.
>>767952762
>citation needed
Yeah, okay. Fuck off, Idiot.
>>767947961
The AR15 is a pseudo-military weapon loaded with hunting ammo.
Military weapons (rifles etc) are required by Convention to be loaded with Full Metal Jacket ammo only. No soft-nose, hollow-point or expanding/explosive ammo. FMJ is not preferred for hunting because it doesn't transfer all the bullet's energy to the target. More like an arrow or lance.
Even then, some FMJ ammo has only the thinnest copper skin (barely more than plating), which peels off when it strikes. The bullet then distorts, tumbles and leaves almost untreatable wounds. Other FMJ ammo, outlawed by Convention, has a composition that makes it tumble when it strikes, even if it stays whole.
So, if you're strutting around with your AR15 loaded with hunting ammo you're a poseur. Real fighters use FMJ.
>>767953304
Wow you really are a Russian shill aren't you
>>767952518
>That will get their foot in the door of a total gun ban and confiscation in their attempts to take leadership of this country from powerful white men.
So, you're only powerful white men if you, and only you, have guns? So where's the power?
>>767953317
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/03/09/gun-rights-are-about-keeping-white-men-on-top/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7e080acd5289
A more recent one. You seem pissed. You a nigger?
>>767952203
>They never replied
Damn what accuracy Anon I'm impressed
>>767953304
>most powerful gun citizens are allowed to have
>.338 exists
wew lad, either misinformed faggot or shillfag
>>767952062
>fetish for cheap ammo
>doesn't buy the x39 527
>>767952762
>widely believed that the 2nd amendment is the only thing continuing white supremacy
>>767950270
>If you don't think there's anything scary about an AR-15 thought then feel free to take yourself out, you're not helping the gene pool any.
If we don't think the ar15 is scary, we should kill ourselves?
>>767953451
Long term. Whites will be a minority in 30ish years. Then, as more and more minorities of now take leadership positions, laws can be enacted that will start to dissolve white supremacy as we know it. Getting guns out of the hand of white men is a start to that. There are far more hate groups/militias that have white members. Making sure they aren't armed when shit starts to go south for them is key.
>>767947961
because every day thousands of children are murdered with AR15s
#BanAllGuns #MurderShouldBeOutlawed
>>767953348
The AR-15 really does serve no purpose other than being a poor mans murder machine. There are much better hunting rifles and much better war rifles. I'm trying to get my hands on an M1 for deer and boar. A much better gun all around.
>>767950302
there are pistols that shoot more powerful rounds than the AR-15. you're an actual fucking retard if you think that rifle is something to shit your pants over, because it really isn't. it's nothing special.
>>767953692
You used a whole roll of tinfoil for that hat, didn't you?
>>767953692
>when shit starts to go south for them
And south it will go. Literally and figuratively. I predict mass white migration to the deep south and an ever deepening fracture between the south and the rest of the country that will ultimately result in at least a 2nd attempt to break away from the union. Whether it will be violent or merely politicial, successful or unsuccessful remains to be seen.
>>767951039
>implying If I love my rifle, I don't love my kids
I'm missing the logic here
Are you saying, just because some nut job, literally 3,000 miles away from me, bought an ar15 legally, who was known to the FBI as an issue, and didn't act upon it, some how involves me, because I own the same gun as him? How does that begin to make sense?
So the person who is a victim of hit and run, while driving a lexus, in boston, is just as guilty as an illegal immigrant, driving over and killing someone, in california, driving a lexus?
Thats your logic. You own this rifle? You hate kids.
>if you don't give up the weapon that you choose to protect your family with, or hunt with, you don't care about kids, because that rifle will get out of its safe one day and kill kids on its own.
Why the fuck do liberals blame the tool when it comes to guns but never anything else? Who do you blame for drunk driving, the car or the driver?
>>767953530
.338 is weak shit if you have deep enough pockets. There's 20mms and transferable M2s out there.
>>767953848
He has a fair point. Just about half of all US domestic terrorism is by racists, the other half by "BAD GUBMINT!" libertarian types
>all of whom are white
>>767951458
youre right, I really don't care about strangers
but to imply me not giving up my tool of choice, implies ANYTHING, is funny
>>767947961
I think that the AUG is better
>>767947961
A variant of it is used by the US military, so people assume it's some kind of godly death machine rather than the bog-standard semi-auto rifle it really is.
>>767947961
Liberal here. I literally and unironically DON'T WANT TO TAKE YOUR FUCKING GUNS FROM YOU. And neither do most liberals tbh.
>>767954261
>we want to ban guns that are meant for killing
>literally every firearm ever invented was made to kill something
>>767950689
Isn't a .223 the preferred bullet of an assassin?
I'm pro gun, and legitimately think that anyone should be able to buy anything as long as that thing doesn't negatively effect another person, but I gotta admit, the AR-15 is not the battle worth winning. It's A gun, who gives a shit? It's not even automatic and (to my knowledge) cant be used for hunting because of dumb government regulations. (Again, I'm probably totally wrong on that but I was told that there are caliber regulations, and a 5.56 cannot be used for hunting....but probably wrong, isn't there a 223 variant?).
It looks too much like an M-16 (Duh) and looks like a military grade weapon. To me, its like trying to fight for your right to run around shouting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER BOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER and saying "muh free speech".
>>767947961
We don't. I own 7 AR platform weapons, 3 of which violate the NFA. Go troll somewhere else.
>>767950302
My cousin always said the AR-15's are the Hondas of the gun world; efficient and non-exciting like my ex.
>>767954514
Uptoke for some common sense.
>mfw the constitution literally says "Well regulated militia"
>Well regulated
>Militia
In the US, we have neither sufficient regulation nor militias
>>767950302
Another lib here, I quite enjoy the CETME/FAL/HK91 platforms, because it's real fuckin' NATO. But an AR is on my list.
>>767954346
/thread
>>767952292
>all parts are mil-spec
It's missing a few parts and that receiver is not mil spec. The manufacturer missed a hole or two.
>>767953692
This nigger post is unironically what they want.
>>767954650
The National Guard is the well regulated Militia.
>>767949937
Actually most shooters are mentally ill lefties.
>>767952333
Uh, yeah, you do. Unless it's a private sale, which aren't allowed at gun shows, all gun sales of rifles require you to be 18, 21 for handguns, and all sales require background checks.
Stop peddling your liberal anti gun show loophole rhetoric, fuckstick. There are no loopholes.
>>767953692
>Long term. Whites will be a minority in 30ish years.
As a white man who studies demographics for a living and knows this to be true, I have to say my feelings about it can be summed up pretty succinctly.
Meh.
My genes will survive. My name will survive. Most importantly: my children and grandchildren will survive. I honestly don't give a shit if my grandchildren are half-something-else and their kids are considered fully Black, Latino (most likely), Middle-Eastern, Asian, or whatever the hell else the rest of you racist shit nozzles are so scared of. They will still be MY grandchildren and great-grandchildren.
>>767954650
It would mean check the people getting guns. All civilians is part of the militia.
>>767953763
>There are much better war rifles.
Modern military rifles are all about compromise.
They need to
>Have rounds big enough to kill someone,
>but light enough so they can carry A LOT of them so they don't go empty mid-fight
>Effective at long range
>but also compact enough to use indoors, or stowed behind some driver's seat for the whole war.
>>767954939
There are videos.
You are wrong.
>>767947961
Same reason they don’t fuck their cousins
>>767954953
Based. I'm the same except I'm not having kids.
>>767952680
Still didn't address the point.
Namely, leftists want to ban this rifle. They always have, even back when they were scornfully telling us "nobody's coming for your guns".
Well, they are and they're a bunch of dirty liars.
>>767954372
No, you're probably thinking of a .22 magnum. Some people think they are subsonic (they're usually not, though you can get subsonic rounds) and particularly quiet when fired from a suppressed weapon.
But that's hollywood bs. A .223 remington is basically the same thing as a 5.56, which is what the M-16A4 fires. And I said "basically", so no pedantic shit from the rest of you, aight? I know the difference, it's just that it doesn't really matter to this guy.
>>767947961
Why are they having a sale on ar15 sales?
>>767955297
Dumbass: I'm a leftist who would only ban this rifle because there are better versions of the same basic platform out there, like the Six8 I mentioned in my first comment.
The problem is that you keep equating "wants stricter gun laws" with liberals. Actually, it's fucking everyone with a brain, including strident 2nd amendment supporters like me.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/28/gun-control-polling-parkland-430099
>>767954346
My Anschutz was made specifically for Olympic levels of killing paper. Terrible hunting rifle.
>>767955533
Why ban anything?
Every product in the world has a top tier, should we ban the rest?
>>767955533
yup
the only people who are against better guns laws is the far right and republican politicians.
>>767954514
>cant be used for hunting because of dumb government regulations.
I think you're PRO idiot
Can't be used.. for hunting? Are you fucking retarded?
"To me, its like trying to fight for your right to run around shouting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER BOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBBOMBNIGGER NIGGER NIGGER and saying "muh free speech"."
This is why David Hogg gets so much shit, young, uninformed opinions, as this one.
The fucking visuals of the gun isn't a good enough reason to ban a gun, its people like you who use their irrelevant feelings to dictate what people get to own or not. Abortions are scary, we should ban them! Pussy hats are scary! ban them! pit bulls are scary! ban them! my feelings trump your rights! See my logic?
See, automatic weapons are banned for a reason, missile launchers are banned for a reason, bombs are banned for a reason. Murder is illegal for a reason. You can't give a logical reason to ban a ar15. pic related
good day
>>767953692
So what do you think will happen to me as a liberal white man (will be in my 60's in 30 years) when all of this finally happens?
>>767955676
I was being facetious. I don't ACTUALLY want to ban anything.
Except maybe stupidity, but I have no idea how to make that work.
>>767955095
Citation needed. Every video I've seen the dude gets shown the door if he doesn't want to do the background check or fails it.
>>767954650
a well regulated militia, is every day people
but don't forget, AFTER that
> the RIGHT of the PEOPLE
>shall NOT
>RIGHT of PEOPLE shall NOT BE INFRINGED
Own a type 84S
>>767955715
It's because of the pistol grip dumbass
>>767954650
"well regulated militia"
"necessary to a free state"
its simply stating a well regulated militia is necessary to keep a free, tyrant free state, nothing about requirements.
>>767947961
>implying there's a political link to opinion on weapons
I've loved guns, weights and martial arts since the late 1980s. I consider myself center left.
Cunts like you are a waste of oxygen.
>>767954514
Well I'm pro civilian subjugation and I voted for Hillary five times in three states, but don't you think the M-16 looks like the AR-15 since the AR-15 came first? The armed forces also has bottled water, but I don't go all STOLEN VALOR, IF YOU WANT TO PLAT SOLDIER, ENLIST and ONLY SOLDIERS GET THAT SORT OF THING every time I see a jogger with a squirt bottle.
>>767955757
>Except maybe stupidity, but I have no idea how to make that work.
If only.
>>767952038
secondhand? lol no, im not poor like you
>>767956079
>Well I'm pro civilian subjugation and I voted for Hillary five times in three states
>>767947961
Because they're a bit unnecessary.
You could kill a man with a pistol, you could kill a man with a pencil.. You don't need an ar15 for any civilian conflict, ever.
Sure, they're not worse than other guns, but having 10+ bullets that are accurate to 100m, is not the kind of specs you need for an invader in your home.
>>767957004
Your post is a good reason not to ban anything.
>>767957004
It’s good for opposing tyranny.
>>767957138
I don't care for the bans, but I also see their argument. It really isn't necessary.
>>767957144
No one on our soil has ever stopped tyranny with an ar15.
>>767957210
>but I also see their argument.
Their arguments are excuses to ban guns and ammo.
Not that you don't need 10 for home safety, which you do.
Anyone who's looked into how many bullets people can take before going down is proof enough.
>>767957341
But they can certainly help stop tyranny with them.
>>767957004
The fuck are you on about? The average .22lr is effective at 100 meters. I know this because I shoot competitively at 100 meters.
>>767950427
you stupid fuck, without a conviction for a crime there is no reason to deny someone their rights.
>>767957444
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Also, trips of Truth.
>>767947961
Wish I could tell you
>>767957526
If you get a weed card, you give some up your rights.
They wanted to extend that far and wide.
>>767957539
Hell yes, good man anon.
>>767957381
I know from your perspective that it's an infringement.
It's like saying we need the right to have a car that can go 200mph.
To stop that production would stimey ingenuity! Right? ...c'mon. That isn't a necessary thing.
The military and police will still have them, but then again they have fucking bearcats for civilian use..
You should be fighting for you right to own a nuke this hard, did you know that?
>>767950184
I literally LOLed...as a person who spent 22 years in the infantry....well played
>>767957568
Jesus Christ that is shit quality. I am truly sorry
>>767950410
subtle.....lol
>>767957446
Oh, so they're longer range?
And this invalidates my point?
>>767954216
Not for the price it isnt
>>767947961
Because you scumbags keep killing us with them
>>767957381
If they can stop tyranny, why can't 10 bullets stop a robber?
If they can't reliably stop a robber with 10 bullets, why are you even fighting for them?
>>767947961
Why do rednecks love them so much?
>>767950410
Kek
>>767947961
I don't hate them, hating an inanimate object would be silly. I just don't find the need for them to be legal for anyone to buy.
Strangely enough, I also don't feel that atomic bombs should be legal for someone to buy.
I think that the only guns that should be legal are manual bolt-action hunting rifles with a max magazine of 4, and you'd have to go to a class where you get certified to use them. Without a license you should get locked up.
>>767957641
>It's like saying we need the right to have a car that can go 200mph.
You can have a car tat can go 200mph.
>The military and police will still have them, but then again they have fucking bearcats for civilian use..
You're a complete fool for stating this garbage.
>You should be fighting for you right to own a nuke this hard, did you know that?
I can own a nuke.
I honestly feel bad at how uneducated you are, please research more.
I don't see it as a loss when a shotgun works better at home defense, and you're actually permitted to keep them loaded in your car (at least here in FL.)
ARs are for a battlefield. If you see your home land as a battlefield, then the VA is (as usual) dropping the ball on psych evals.
>>767957620
Firm believer in "do what you can, with what you have, where you are." If you aren't prepared be prepared to MacGuyver something together if necessary.
>>767957983
you know the second amendment wasn't made for fucking hunting
>>767947961
NIGGERS
>>767958044
>you can have a car that can go 200mph
Yeah, but on what fucking road legally?
When will that EVER be used according to intended function and traffic law?
It won't. Like your AR won't.
I'm not saying take a bus, I'm saying banning 200mph vehicles, or other items that perform Dramatically beyond it's necessary function, are excessive.
>>767950236
>Implying a liberal ex-supreme court justice didn't recently call for the repeal of 2A
>>767950270
>Implying this is left vs. right
They're both right-wingers, this is about control.
ITS BECAUSE OF NIGGERS!
>>767958273
>ex
>in a republican majority
Be scared of shadows, and you'll always think you need a stronger weapon, pussy.
>>767958062
Why do cops need AR rifles when protecting themselves against the same criminals? I guess all they need is a shotgun. I want you to tell your police force to not respond to calls to your house unless the entire department stops using weapons only suitable for a battlefield and not for defense.
No way I can get one.
Funny shit because I have a CETME A model with two mags and four boxes of CETME-made 7.62 ammo.
Bless my grandpa for this :)
>t. Spaniard
>>767957824
>why can't 10 bullets stop a robber?
That's subjective, the person behind the gun may miss all shots.
>If they can't reliably stop a robber with 10 bullets, why are you even fighting for them?
Again, subjective retardation.
>>767955095
You dont need a background check for a private sale, which can legally take place anywhere, thats irrelevant to gunshows entirely.
even in a private sale its still illegal to sell to someone underage or that you reasonably believe to be prohibited.
THE NIGGERS!
>>767958251
>Yeah, but on what fucking road legally?
Doesn't matter, you were talking about owning something legally.
>When will that EVER be used according to intended function and traffic law?
Doesn't matter, you can own it.
>It won't. Like your AR won't.
Ignorance.
>>767952333
>>767955095
You need a background check to buy from a FFL. That can be anywhere from a brick and mortar to a gunshow, the location is irrelevant.
>>767958251
Wait, are we allowed to shoot rifles on the freeway? All this time I've been going to shooting ranges to shoot, just like race car drivers go to race tracks to drive.
>>767951039
>security is more important than rights
>appeal to emotions
Liberal indeed.
>inb4 u a dumb cunservitiv
I'm a real liberal, i.e. libertarian.
NIGGERS
>>767953687
When you fail to respect the machine and the tools, they'll malfunction.
There are people who always want more power.
The first man that made the gun was a God.
You need the option that can kill 10 Gods from 100+m, and you see nothing a little concerning or unbalanced there?
>>767958529
Please tell me I made any sense to you.
>>767947961
They're scary looking
I BLAME THE NIGGERS!
>>767958694
I'm not sure. Did you know people with 200mph cars drive fast on race tracks? Did you know rifles function fine and as intended on a shooting range?
I have an AR but they've become cliches. Ex Army fag so I've the gov. equivalent endless times. If I could have one rifle it would my Zava AK or my Lever Act. 45-70.
>>767954216
overpowered faggot
Forgot pic of 45-70 federal
>>767957983
>need
Lol
no really guys, it's the niggers showing it off in their music videos and killing people with them
>>767958112
Fuck the 2nd amendment. It's outdated.
>>767953499
> Gun violence is rooted in white surpremacy
LMAO gun CONTROL is rooted in white supremacy.
Some of the first gun control laws in the U.S. were Jim Crow era with the sole intention of keeping minorities unarmed and unequal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States#Post_Civil_War
>>767959003
Fuck all the amendments. Shoe leather is tasty.
>>767959076
Especially women's suffrage, amirite?
>>767959169
Haven't they suffered enough? End woman's suffrage.
NIGGERZ
>>767958354
I was merely refuting the false narrative espoused by gun-control advocates that no one wishes to remove guns. It's not "no one" because clearly an ex-SCOTUS and his followers among others in the anti-gun camp actually want to berid this country of them. Whether or not they'll succeed is a different matter, but it's easy to see how untrue that is.
>>767947961
>Why
There isn't a reason. You're expecting a rational explanation for the behavior of a patently irrational movement.
Because you were brainwashed to think Liberals hate them.
Its really easy to find someone who hates something and call them liberals.
I'd consider myself a liberal and I have no issues with any guns of any kind.
>>767959003
>I have an objective say on what should and should not be
>>767959298
FUCK YOU KID
>>767959214
i'd vote for that.
>>767949937
But almost every mass shooter in US history has been democrat
>>767947961
because it looks "scary" and military
>>767959065
>liberals
>leftists
Lol Hillary was a fucking con under a Dem ticket. Both are into big money.
>>767947961
Liberals don't believe immigration laws or even borders should exist. I wouldn't pay much attention to them.
>>767947961
They're puppets, they don't even know.
>>767959298
>I have an opinion and can use the word "fuck" in my opinion
i'm in favor of outlawing guns and then confiscating them by force to be perfectly honest. we can compensate gun owners for their property based on fair market value over the past 5 years or some shit. hunters can keep one long gun and special federal permit holders can keep handguns. in favor of an amendment for this and also in favor of deputizing the national guard to seize the weapons. fuck you my fellow white men.
>>767959403
kek, come and take them soyboi
>>767959402
Who are you talking to?
>>767959490
Why are you scared of beans? >>767959491
>>767947961
I think you're mistaking liberal for communists/Marxist
IT'S REALLY THE NIGGERS!
>>767959563
"Any attempts to disarm the worker should be frustrated; by force if necessary." -Karl Marx
It's liberals, they're not far off from Italian Fascist.
>>767959491
Someone on this thread. Some parent post of a parent post somewhere.
I'm the one that had an opinion and said "fuck".
>>767959403
>we can compensate gun owners for their property
With what money? You do realize there are 8 guns for every 10 people, right? Even at only $500 per gun that's 130 BILLION.
>>767954746
This guy gets it. I like my AR-15 well enough, but my HK91 is A MUCH nicer rifle.
>>767959803
Wasn't me.
>>767959403
>also in favor of deputizing the national guard to seize the weapons.
kek
if only 5% of gun owners in the U.S. formed an armed resistance they would outnumber the entire U.S. military man to man by almost a million.
it took far, FAR less to dissuade that in vietnam and multiple times in the middle east, and they weren't even fighting their own citizens then.
>>767959855
Nicer? The HK91 is outdated stamped steel. Sure, HK is awesome but it's still a stamped gun. Roller delayed no less. Outdated as fuck.
I think we should antifa the fuckers. Form a vigilante group and go round up everyone who owns an AR-15 and bash their heads in with hardened tofu logs.
>>767959885
Was it me?
>>767953408
>Russian shill
>he fell for the Russia meme
sweety...
>>767959371
Neo-lib's are regan era neo-con's economic policy with a "socially liberal" paint job. Big business bought the Democratic party the same way they bought the Republican party. The first step is admitting it, the second is a return to FDR style "new deal" bottom up infrastructure investment.
>>767955715 thanks for not getting my point,
the fight should be for the right to own a gun, if conceding the AR15 means the libs get off our backs then im totally fine with losing that one gun.
>>767960089
While I agree with you, I respectfully ask you to not misuse apostrophes.
>>767956079
didnt know the AR15 came first, thats a fun fact. My point was that i can UNDERSTAND WHY people would want it banned, cause it looks lIkE An aSsUlT rIfLe. $10 bucks that says if it "looked" like an M1 it wouldnt be the subject of so much hate.
>>767960190
With all of his problem's, do you really want to point this one out? That may be the one that send's him over the edge.
>>767960095
Its never fucking worked before and its never going to work.
The AR15 HAS ALREADY BEEN BANNED ONCE BEFORE!
do you know why it was made legal again? because the ban didnt do shit and had zero effect on gun crime or mass shootings.
Columbine happened during that same assault weapons / high cap magazine ban by the way.
>>767960412
little victories, like banning bump stocks or whatever, show that NRA/Pro 2nd amend people or whatever are willing to compromise. the onus then falls on the left to back down. if not, then they get to be painted (more than they already are) as whiny little shits who demand its their way or the highway. instant moral victory for us.
or google the dem headquarters and go shoot it up, whats the point of buying all those guns "to have a milita" if the "milita" spends all their time arguing over the internet?
>>767959700
To be liberal is only to be open to ideas, not exactly force them on others, it's not the liberal prerogative to take people's rights away, jus follow the Democratic process. If they do not adhere to that then they are not liberals but pretenders, I'm not a liberal myself but that much is clear.
>>767960657
>left
No
Persoonally even though I am left wing, I don't want to see guns banned in America. I view America as the world's ultimate cancer, and the idea of Americans being so stupid that they refuse to ban something that kills thousands of them each year hillarious.
And when your civil war come, because being so stupid it will, your extermination is just the icing on the cake.
So yeh,fuck Americas. You are the laughing stock of the entire world.
>>767960657
>instant moral victory for us.
having your fee fees stroked doesnt protect your constitutional rights.
> google the dem headquarters and go shoot it up
Because im not a political terrorist.
I dont need to go crazy killing people to make a point, im just going to continue to keep owning my guns like normal and if someone wants to take them they can just try.
>>767959935
Stamped steel and roller delayed action doesn't really bother me. Neither has ever affected the rifle's operation in the years that I've owned it, but I should have included the M1A in my other post.
I guess I'm a lot more of a 7.62 fan than 5.56.
>>767960215
I have an AR and a moist nugget. Guess which one is actually MiLiTaRy HaRdWaRe?
>>767960970
having an AR15 banned also doesnt DAMAGE your rights to own a gun, just that you cant own THAT one.
What I would like to hear (out side of muh rights) is what are the Pros of owning an AR15 VS any other gun that uses the same caliber.
>>767960412
>because the ban didnt do shit
Because of all the loopholes, it literally didn't do shit except make shit more expensive.
>>767961085
Prohibiting blacks from voting doesn't DAMAGE the citizen's right to vote. You just can't vote if you're THAT race. People can still vote.
>>767961076
doesn't matter what IS milspec but what LOOKS milspec. are you incapable of emphasizing with a 41 year old mother that doesn't know guns being scared of an AR15 she sees some neckbeard open carrying? it LOOKS like an army gun, not a hunting gun or whatever. wooden hunting rifle? cool looking, ar15? kill people lookin
>>767960890
Not in political theory; to be a liberal is one who wants equality and economic freedom.
In the US what we know as a Liberal is a Neo-Liberal, people who use a capitalistic mixed market while also looking to the government to enforce security and espouse rigid progressive views.
>>767961216
so you cant think of a pro for that gun vs its equivalent.
>>767961216
and its more like prohibiting someone with voting with BIC pens and only letting you use literally any other type of pen
>>767961085
>What I would like to hear (out side of muh rights) is what are the Pros of owning an AR15 VS any other gun that uses the same caliber.
Besides my Fee Fees what are the cons?
>>767961293
No need to. I think Hispanics born in this country should also vote. Do I need to justify my reasons for your majesty's approval?
>>767961187
What fucking loopholes are you talking about?
>>767952292
Mil-spec..so, used, middle shelf quality?
>>767961442
being demonized by people that don't understand guns? Still just fee fees, but i still have not heard an objective pro for the AR15 specifically.
they're too hard to fuck unlike the superior M-14.
lock the bolt back and fuck it.
how do you get non gay people to fight with such passion for the rights of gay people? Make them feel like they are on the right/superior side.
same thing with guns.
>>767961423
More like you can vote for anyone as long as they are a democrat.
>>767961281
Well I'm thinking in terms of classical liberal, one who's socially progressive and that's where the equal part comes in and is economically conservative, not exactly for government intervention. And I'm American, I know about the neolibs.
>>767961563
you're a nigger
>>767961085
Do you faggots really understand or appreciate how many fucking firearms Americans own. Let me tell, you it is way more than 300 million, which the media stat always thrown around. We are armed to the fucking teeth. Do you know how big our country is? It's huge, and mostly outside of liberal conclaves on the upper east coast and west coast. I dont care how many fucking guns you "ban", which you won't because it's wildly politically unpopular. Even if you could, most states and local law enforcement are not going to engage in any type of gun confiscation program, outside of your faggot degenerate cities.
>>767961626
Well, most anti gunners hate and fear dark skin. You have found friends in the gun grabber community.
>>767947961
Because your mother did heroin while she was pregnant with you. There's no other explanation.
>>767961644
kek im canadian, we have more guns per capita than you.
good look fighting against an Abrams you /b/tard
>>767947961
I don't. I'll find it amusing when Republicans are the ones that finally take them from you and I'll be happy to remind you that I always said they couldn't be trusted.
>>767955918
In what way does a pistol grip make an AR15 functionally more dangerous or scary or problematic, or whatever fucking quality that makes it something that should be banned?
It doesn't change a damn thing worth noting, the differences in ergonomics is ultimately a difference in personal taste. That and AR is highly modular, so a grip that is seperate from the stock is preferable to the one peice stock/grip/handguard seen on the mini 14. Hell, you can put a non pistol grip or an attached combination stock and grip on an AR pattern rifle, and people do that, even where it is not required, because they prefer it.
>>767961085
tell me why you want the ar15 banned but not the other
I'll wait
>>767952333
Yes, you need a background check at a gun show moron. It's a fucking felony.
Yes, you need to be 18 to buy a gun legally.
You are the one that needs to check your sources because they are not factual.
HINT: you are way misinformed.