Alcoholism thread?
Can't remember shit about last night. I wake up and i just have one sock on. A broken glass on the floor, my undies on the floor (wtf?) And texted my best friend (a girl) and i told her that i love her.
Still drinking.
Bump?
>>767910720
Keep going it only gets better.
>>767909950
Keep it up, you'll get better at blacking out. At least you didn't not know if your car was still there or if it had someone else's blood on it. I'm on day 26 of a bender and I have a dentist appointment on Wednesday. I don't know how I'm going to survive
>>767909950
Drank a 12pk of beer a day for 6 years weekends drink whisky and beer and smoke week. Stopped after I met my wife and had our first born. Only drink on Fridays and it's only a six pack. Much happier now.
>>767910938
Did the same. It was hard but i only drink on saturdays now. Feels good. I used to drink 6 days per week btw
OP here. Also, thanks god im free till wednesday.
Bump?
>>767910765
Mfw Andra is my friend on shitbook.
North Dakota
>>767909950
I find it kinda fun when i wake up after a blackout and find all kinds of shit in my house and nothing makes any sense at all and i cant remember anything of it. Makes me giggle of my own fucked up stupidity while i get another beer and continue drinking.
>>767913508
At least you drink beer. I drink guaro (national branded alcohol) is worst than vodka.
>>767909950
I have literally been shitting myself to death all night. I eat solid food but all I shit out is liquid and painful little pebbles. My asshole is so raw from wiping. It's eight in the morning and I'm still knocking back shots. This has been a problem for months now. One of my more frequent Google searches is literally "can you shit yourself to death" I'm trying to stay hydrated. I got four hours of sleep. But I'm still drinking so fuck it. For some reason it's been hurting to lift my legs up off the ground. I'm not severely overweight and I don't exercise that much. I've been trying to eat and drink things with a lot of vitamins. But nothing can really fix the health problems of a half a handle a day habit.
>>767914454
I usually have alcohol dhiarrea all week. Then im shitting nice turds on Friday but i start drinking again.
>>767914567
I wish I could have a nice solid turd sometimes. Constant, chronic diarrhea is a literal pain in the ass.
>>767914833
I feel you, bro.
five months sober fag here, only advice I got is hit the detox before withdrawing starts to make you hear voices. If you don't go through withdrawals, stop being a pussy and drinking so god damn much it doesn't end well.
>>767909950
I have never drunk alcohol. 38 years old. Not even a religious thing. Drunk people piss me off.
>>767915324
I feel you too. Drunk people are annoying. This coming from an alcoholic.
>>767914454
Thats the main reason i had cut back drinking. I could always handle being hungover at work, but the damn shits and 24/7 sore asshole was pure torture. Now im down to just a beer now and then, and only slightly buzzed in the weekends, i also eat less junkfood. My entire digestive system thanks me, yet all i can think of is the next beer. Its a struggle but i think its worth it.
>>767917725
I've been sober for 10 days. Thats my personal record. Man, i want to drink so fucking bad
>>767917826
Go on, my nigger. Nothing is impossible.
Ive fucked up my life due to drinking. I lie all the time about it. Most people think I am sober but I drink all the time I guess people just think I am weird and no one knows I am just really drunk all the time.
>>767909950
Ehh drinking fucks you up man, I used to do about 350 units a week, had a Councillor and shit, told me if I stop drinking I could die, literally went to a job from home not drinking and had a fucking seizure, I ended up having a 2 week medical alcohol detox
>>767918479
Are you me?
Bump because I've been there
>>767909950
Been ther man, woke up found out I spent all my rent money, fucked a nasty old bar whore, wife left me, kid hates me, pawned all my shit for a few drinks. Lost jobs, numerous hospital visits.
>>767920154
Shit man. Im just 23. But ive been drinking since i was 14
>>767920523
Try and figure it out man. I'm 42 and my life is shit because of drinking. Cant seem to stop. I guess it's easier said then done but if you can stop drinking you are young don't fuck up your life like so many of us alcoholic fags have.
>>767920868
How sad. My dad is a hardcore alcoholic but he did great.i want to be like him but im doing wrong.
>>767918610
>350 units a week
What the fuck does that mean? Are you a Eurofag?
I stopped drinking when alcohol started making pimples on my face. My face is is my presentation card.
Beenbsoberbfor 8 months now.
>>767921667
I'm hispanic but i think he was talking about mililiters. 350ml is the usual content of a little bottle.
>>767921667
Yeah lemme have a look how to convert it so you can understand
>>767915240
I've been drinking about 6.5l of beer a day, every day for a few years now and I still don't get withdrawals when I stop, is this normal?
>>767922338
No alcohol units, tell you what, I've got a bottle of 70cl vodka here and it says it contains 38 units, and it says I shouldn't drink more than 3 units a day
I want to snort units
>>767922452
Probably not, I posted below you, I was drinking about 6l of strong cider everyday, it was 7. 5%proof and I had pretty bad withdrawals but that was only when it wore off, I didn't even realise I was still really drunk when I woke up in the morning
>>767922509
That's new to me tbh.
>>767923142
It was a lot man, I got sent to detox and they brethalized me when I went in, I blew 198 that's pretty high in UK standards
>>767923275
What's your shoe size?
>>767909950
>my first time... when see a glitch. I like it.
I have 6 tall cans of beer and 40 oz of whiskey and I haven't drank them for days.
It's like a test of will.
>>767922452
I used to drink a lot of beer - six pack a day and more on the weekends. I quit and only have a glass or two of red wine now. Didn't have withdrawals other than craving sugar for a bit. I had a good balanced diet, and that made a big difference.
>>767924562
I'm a fatfag and when I drink beer I tend to skip a meal. How bad is that for me to do?
>>767922509
So how does that work, you walk up to the barkeep and ask for two units of gin with a shmeckle of lime???
I'm at the point of drinking a 12 pack a day on the weekends for the past few weeks. Is it too late to stop?
>>767924829
If you think it might be then take a break. See how much you miss it.
>>767924782
Kek
>>767924782
I don't even know if you're being serious I don't want to bite because I don't think people are that stupid
>>767924829
That's amateur shit. Real alcoholics drink a case a day oy a fifth of liquor. They drink all the time. If your drinking a twelve a day on the weekends, your primary worry is getting a DUI or doing something stupid that cost a lot of money.
>>767924782
Not unless you do it all the time.
>>767909950
I used to do shit like this daily. The sooner you start quitting (i say quitting not quit because it is a bit of a process) the sooner you can start living
>>767925241
It's not something to brag about man, it's literally fucking addictive poison
>>767925399
Whose bragging? I'm just pointing out the fact that hardcore alcoholics drink ALOT more than most of the people posting on here about they're drinking habitats.
Get out while you can, when you get sober later it hurts and you hate yourself. The dt's are hell.
7 months sober and I had a dream two nights ago that I got drunk and felt like shit afterwards. Shit was funny I was like depressed when I woke up. But yeah Im around drinking it all the time and never get massive triggers to drink. Got pleanty of money and also don't feel like drinking either. Definitely think Im an alchoholic though so Im chillin till the year mark then Ima get a six pack and see what happens. Trying to move to a weed legal state anyways. (Havent smoked weed either) but now Im training for the Boston marathon so whatevers.
/end rambling post
You boys can make it. Get a full time job and a hobby, mines running and video games when Im not working.
>>767925639
Around drinking all the time*
Lol
>>767923679
Im 44.
I know i'm going to die in a drunken stupor. It hurts, but at least I know.
42
>>767925399
Also to get physically addicted, you have hit the shit hard for a good while. For most people who drink a lot it's a psychological dependence. But if you are physically, then you should try and quit without getting a doctor involved.
>>767917826
Nice, keep up the good work and don't give up if you do slip up and drink. I never got past 3 days or so for about six months of trying. Then I got to 5. i got 2 weeks a couple of times before cracking. Then I got 21 days and still fucking wound up drinking. That was a month long bender that landed me in the hospital hearing shit that wasn't there. Now I'm at 17 days and praying to just not drink again. Point is sometimes you can overwhelm youself with too much pressure by focusing too much on how long you've held out. Better to think about why you want to stop and how shit you're going to feel if you crack. I have nightmares that i break down and drink lol. I wake up all freaked out that I fucked up ajd realise I didn't
>>767924782
This.
Wtf
man, first post on b that hits in a while. I hope the 40 over's make it.
>>767925639
Anon is right. You gotta fill that hole with something else, and something positive. Not another drug. It's fucking mindset that you need to readjust.
>>767925729
Umm I just looked in my shoe, I think 11 UK is 45 USA, but its worn out so I can't be sure
>>767909950
What's wrong with this? Sounds like fun
>>767914454
>can you shit yourself to death
kek
>>767925805
I know man, but I'm 28 and it was physical, had a alcohol withdrawal seizure, and from what I've been told an alcohol detox is normally 7 days but they kept me in 14,i fucking hate the stuff but Ill admit I've got pretty shitty self control
>>767918479
Willing to bet more people know than you think
>>767926151
Yea, that sucks. I've heard it's a fucking bitch. Glad you made it through.Congrats.
>>767914454
>possibly hammeroids
>in any case: daflon 500
>>767922452
4l a day, 2 years
no withdrawal either
only had 2 beers today, I'll stop the gf is coming home later
>>767910938
>>767911017
Same. I've drank a 6 pack of icehouse everyday for 7 years. Today is my first day sober. Wish me luck.
>>767910938
>Only drink on Fridays and it's only a six pack.
>>767911017
>hard but i only drink on saturdays now
this kind of guy is encouraging suicide, worse than the smelliest sock puppet
>>767914833
This is funny because I can totally relate.
>>767918479
they are likely smelling that shit which is your new aura.
not my thread, but two weeks of weighed and measured food, and I"m looking back on three years of semi-binging food...and only beginning to think WTF?.....feels better man.
My enemy, saying "once I'm sober i'll be able to deal better", that just pushed sober further away....
>>767926626
Fuck off nigger
>>767926333
Haha its not that simple, I did the live in detox for 2 weeks, sure no problem, but after you have to have therapy, all kinds of medication etc, I was on dysfrurium, crampanol, and thymine, looking back now I wish I could do it again, I'd stop drinking, it's literally life changing
>>767926587
It will be on your mind for a few weeks, and eventually you will get used to not drinking so much. Soon one day you'll wake after a great nights sleep, and think "damn I feel good."
>>767926437
>only had 2 beers today
was that the first two, or the last ?
how many times has THAT happened ?
>>767926824
people who see you for what you are are Niggers.
dude, you are going to fucking be surrounded with Niggers if you keep this up....the smell doesn't go away.
>>767926931
Sure thing, Tyrone. Don't play dumb.. die.
>>767926883
Dude it's dangerous to instantly stop, maybe he still has alcohol in his system from the night before, but if he's done it 7 years he will get the shakes, sweats, etc, I had to look it up, alcoholics shake because its the neurons in their brains firing back up or something
>>767926898
what I'm trying to say is I drank 8x pic related daily for 2 years
no withdrawal symptoms
in my country there's a thing were nobody drinks in februari, and that didn't turn out to be a problem
the gf went to the city and I had to fetch food so I grabbed myself 2x 33cl jupiler
that's all I'll have today
yeah it's behind her back
I drink every single night. Usually a little less of half a fifth of liquor, but still every single night. It's never caused me to miss work and I still managed to graduate from college last week. But I still drink every single night.
>>767927075
I pity you, that's not harming anybody.
The hate will eat your soul, that's when the evil owns you....keep it up JimBobzebub.
>>767927173
pic
gf's home
>>767927173
I have no advice (you're welcome) and no more questions....Good Luck.
>>767925639
Im 31 have a good job and drink 12 beers a day minimum. Not happy about it but cant sleep without the booze. Wife's tolerant of it, but im spending 350 dollars a month on alcohol and sick of it. Tried running and other things it just seems like nothing is fun without booze.
>>767927319
I can relate to this. Except, I don't have a good job. I actually lost the one good job I've ever had because of alcohol. Got a 2nd DUI, and went to jail for 45 days. Neither my job nor my apartment or car were there when I got out. Kept drinking to punish myself for fucking up so bad that it pretty much ruined my life.
Love yourself first before dragging this girl into your shit alcohol filled life. Don’t ruin other people’s lives with your bad behavior. You know it’s bad so quit fucking around and do something nice for yourself. Clean your room, throw junk away, trim/shave beard hair, improve your posture and get active.
>>767927192
It will catch up to you. Trust me. It did me. I quit doing that shit after a few attacks of gout. Wait till that happens.
>>767927549
Coolest advice ive seen on /b/.
>>767927528
Dude I said it earlier it was 350 units a week, it's not as bad as others I know, but it literally caused my body to fuck up, I met somone who was doing 600 a week and that was a woman, it's just nasty stuff man
I'm a grill. Alcoholism sucks.
>>767913426
Hey me too, we should grab a drink
So, what is the criteria of being an alcoholic?
In east europe it looks like everyone is drinking at least 2-3 beers or liquor in equivalent alcohol %.
Are we all alcoholics here?
>>767927870
350 unit's by u.s. standards would be 50 beers a day. You should be dead.
>>767928124
I was doing 6 liters a 7.5% proof a day
>>767928124
I drank 2 liters (2000 mililitters) of vodka last night.
>>767927319
Similar boat here. I used to drink a twelve a day for a year or two. Then decided I was tired of it and went down to a six a day. Got tired of that and just started holding off drinking until close to when I was going to head to bed. Drink three or so and have almost decent sleep. Wake up feeling better than drunk sleep too.
Starting a job as a field service engineer shortly so the drinking is going to have to stop almost completely at that point. Should be interesting.
>>767928544
Yeah this is actually kind of a trick. Stopping it all at once will only make you want it harder. But little litle with small steps we can stop this habbit (yeah, for me it is more lika a habbit than an addiction).
>>767909950
I am sober for 8 days, I can feel that my liver is improving every passing day.
I wake up at 8 o' clock every day ever since I have stopped drinking. My life is so much better.
You, too can stop drinking. Get a gym membership with a spa and pool, steam rooms too, maybe.
You can't imagine the things you can do with the money you spend on liquor.
8 days of not drinking, working out, and treating myself massages makes me feel so much alive.
Come on OP, don't go down that path.
You too can be like yoshi in picture related.
>>767928943
Best way I've found is to only buy as much as you want to drink. So on those shit nights you'd decide you want more, you're out and just head to bed.
>>767909950
>>767929020
Hear this anon out, OP.
Print out the yoshi picture and put it into your wallet.
The empty bottle is your past now, and your future, is Yoshi.
Do the Yoshi technique, OP.
>>767929551
Something good happen to you during the same time? My cravings to drink are dying massively since I've officially set up a solid career. Stress levels are so much lower.
>>767913508
It's really not that funny as you get older. Seeing a drunk kid or 20 something is one thing. But when you're over 35 and into 40s and beyond, you start to become more problematic. The world kind of reacts differently. And then you start blacking out harder, ie you appear more lucid to others while are literally blacked out. You start saying and doing things, causing fights, get your ass kicked, arrested, thrown out of bars, pushed away everyone you ever cared about. Your giggles will turn to tears, and you will remember the day random faggot om 4chan told you it would.
>>767929747
Actually, yes.
There was a work related motivation within my decision, too. I translate books for a living, and obtaining an award made me feel quite happy and confident a week ago.
>>767928456
Man, not questioning your truthfulness, but how the fuck can human drink that much. Is that daily? That is a huge volume of booze.
>>767930011
That's fantastic! Congratulations anon. It's pretty surprising how seeing hard work being recognized drives that desire out.
>>767929946
Ain't that the truth. Kids get a pass for being idiots. You do it when your 40, and people really question you. Then you have the inevitable health problems that start to manifest. Gout is what finally got me quit or at least cut way back. Pain a hell of a motivator, and you ain't felt pain until you've had a bad gout attack.
>>767930300
Checked, and you too anon.
You are not only helping yourself but also affecting many people in a positive way.
>>767910938
Man, i need to knoe it off. I drink a fucking lot. Every night. All day weekends.
Any tips. No real money for fun stuff atm. Just watch tv and try not to thibk about the bottle in the freezer isnt workibg
>>767914066
>worse than vodka
Worse than Tsvarski 90 proof???
>>767914454
Dammit. Thats about where i am. Not at work and i make sure to get 7 hours of sleep so no matter how fucked up i am i can work in the morning
>>767915240
Damn anon. Grats. How the shit did you do it? I am retarded and always thought these dangerous withdrawls were at 48 hours. So every month or so i stop for 2.5 days. Turns out the real kicker is day 3.
Do u ween off a little a day, skip days, or just try to not seize and die?
>>767915324
Shitty childhood? Sucks anon. You aren't missing out at all.
>>767917826
Dont cave anon. Protip. Get busch NA and a koozie. Looks lile a busch. Tastes like shit so u dont even want it. And people dont ask you to dd. Just tell them u been drinking. I quit for 8 months one time and nobody knew
>>767918610
2 fucking weeks!???????????
How the fuck. Man, i can't have a seizure at work. I could kill someone on accident. Can i just cut back for lile a month?
>>767930835
Gradually cut down and you'll be fine.
>>767930568
Is it getting warmer in wherever you live? Get a huge water container, take hikes in the nature, drink lots of water, work out your legs and buy yourself a nice dinner with some sparkling water.
The point is that you should avoid environments that you consume your booze.
If it's a pub, don't go there. If it's your house, spend as less time as possible in there, etc.
Once you do this for a couple of days, your cravings will drop drastically.
If you fail, it's also alright. Just keep trying until your brain breaks the habit.
>>767931078
Fuck, he was drinking the equivalent of 50 beers a day. Think about that for a minute.
>>767931192
Also, take b vitamins, and magnesium supplements. Going to a sauna and sweating helps too, but drink plenty of water like anon said.
>>767925639
#metoo
>>767925960
Anon shack wears a 16!
>fuckin clown shoes
>>767926587
GOOD LUCK ANON! u got this shit buddy
Seek help while you're young. Don;t let it get worse.
I checked in when my wife told me she was pregnant. .31 and stone cold sober. Worst week of my life drying out, but worth it.
Get help, anon.
How did you guys get past the insomnia? I'm trying to stop after a 5 year 2-4 litter of rum a week habit and have terrible insomnia. Im on day 8 and it is not getting better. I almost got fired last week when I slept the whole day and missed a meeting. Not having diarrhea every day has been amazing at least.
>>767925639
>Im chillin till the year mark then Ima get a six pack
Just passed my one year mark. I was thinking of doing the same thing, but that day came and went and I didn't do it. I'm hoping that idea passes for you too, anon.
>>767931800
>How did you guys get past the insomnia
That's a frequent reason people drink in the first place. Common solutions include quitting caffeine, lots of exercise, and becoming strict about a bedtime/wake up time.
>>767928456
Dude... i drinkbit daily and that is a fucking lot
drinking has almost gotten me kicked out of college three different times. two weekends ago I split my hand open because I fell while holding a handle of new amsterdam. i showed up to one of my finals today drunk and aced it.
i'm not going to change because i don't want to.
Imageboards are quite valuable when it comes to going sober, and curing your brain.
Pick an image, any image, even those containing booze pictures.
Look at it first, let's take my picture for instance.
A person with severe addiction to intoxication would think; 'Shit, this is a nice cabin. I would chop some wood in the morning, open up a Laphroaig quarter cask and start drinking around noon, I might cook some hare stew along the way as well.'
But think about it, you don't have to consubstantiate shitty liquids with environments, think about different ideas.
'I imagine that this cabin is in Alaska, I would go out and hunt down the Sniper Wolf.', 'Man, I would love to visit here with X, we would have crazy sex here.', 'I imagine having a dog, and living without any social interaction here.', 'I would visit this cabin with my best friends.'
Anything would be fine. Overidentifying things with alcohol fuels your addiction. Overwrite your brain, one step at a time.
You can do it.
Can I ask y'all something? When you go through withdrawals is it possible to have false memories? Like you remember shit from more than a year ago that didn't actually happen?
>>767929276
>the Yoshi Technique. 2 days in a row of solid /b.
>burp the worm and snafled related
>>767931864
>but that day came and went and I didn't do it
Good for you, man. I'm 14 years sober. Thought about having a little on my 5 year anniversary, but then I looked at my kiddo and decided not to.
Some people can go from alcoholic to controlled social drinker. I've known a few. I don't think I'm one of those people as I tend to be all or nothing about most things.
>>767929946
Woke up in the hospital my wife works at. .369 bac. Night in jail, d.u.i. and while my car was fine the tow guy broke it. That was a year ago and i still cant stop. This thread helps tho.
So much shit i want to do and cant do because passed out or broke
>>767932284
it is always possible to have false memories
we recall things (slightly) differently each time we think of them anyway, moreso under stress.
so yeah, withdrawals can affect that
keep a journal if you need to
>>767931103
Thank fuck. I cant go to a detox place and keep my job
>>767932463
Get help. There are loads of options. You need to dry out under supervision, then get into some form of counseling. Don;t know where you live, but there are free places.
Bob
>>767932533
Yeah that's true. I guess it doesn't help I've always had anxiety and a tendency to ruminate.
>>767931192
Cool. Ty. Got a bad back. Just normal walking fucks my universe. I guess thats a big part of it. I do like to tinker with electronics tho. Thanks anon. Will take that advice.
>>767913426
Drink up
>>767931195
I am up to like 12 shots of 80 proof vodka and 6 beers. I have made 48 hours repeatedly but not longer because i didnt know i needed to. I will cut back some and stop make friday night 3 days and see. Would i need to sorry at all sunday then?
>>767932673
Sorry to hear that, man. You will definitely break the habit. Good luck!
>>767932105
Interesting take anon. Thank you
>>767928943
I miss my Turkish nights.
>>767913426
Every single person in that fucking state is drunk
>>767932601
Live in the fuckin boonies. I think i can just taper off over the next few weeks until i hit the 2 or 3 beer a night mark and then just stop. Damned sure gonna give it one last solid try before i get real help. Thanks tho
I straight up play with my girlfriend's doo doo to nut
>>767933067
Have you been there?
>>767933179
Lived there for some time
>>767933143
Go loooong taper. Anything close to cold turkey will push you back worse.
>>767932907
Thank u sir. Been trinking since i was a kid. I dont even know what in the fuck to do once i stop.
Maybe gaming again?
>>767933206
Then you know why everyone is drunk.
(Minnesotan here. Not much better.)
I have upgraded North Dakota's state flag.
You don't have to thank me.
>>767933175
You straight up are the biggest faggot on 4 chan actually.
And that says a lot. This place houses the single worst autists with an internet connection and we all fucking hate you...
>>767933217
Will do anon.
I drinlna lot of vodka and some beer. Can i just dump the potatoe juoce and stick to beer starting tonight?
>>767933330
kek
>>767933258
When I said everyone I meant myself included. I went to my first AA meeting in Moorhead
>>767933336
Well here's the kicker. I'm not the main doo doo nut guy, I just do it on the side. I'm a full time logposter. Does that factor in?
>>767933382
>Can i just dump the potatoe juoce
Maybe? Gonna depend on your tolerances and needs. Beer is obvs much lower ABV than booze, so it takes a lot of beer to get where a bottle of vodka will get you. Plus, beer takes longer to drink, allowing your body time to process it. This puts a sort of upper limit on BAC with beer. Not a hard limit of course, but it takes a mighty effort to get to .4 with beer.
Good luck, /b/ro
>>767933492
>I went to my first AA meeting in Moorhead
Did you like AA? I like the idea of it, but couldn't get past the higher power stuff. Wasn't for me. Ended up just meeting a few folks I met at AA. We rotated houses for our weekly meeting. More or less the same as AA, but no god stuff.
There were six of us. One died in a car accident, the others still meet from time to time as friends.
>>767933249
Gaming is good. You can learn programming, studying German is good, too.
Google 'fun batch files', spend some time on command prompt, maybe. Should you have sufficient funds, go to Japan, get jetlagged, go to Tsukiji fish market at 3 a.m to get some raw fish, or try every single Chinese food place in your vicinity. Rent your apartment for a Finnish exchange student, draw dicks on an A4 paper.
Your options are limitless.
Joining a social group that does not necessarily drink, is a good option too.
Get hooked up with some local Vedic medicine society, do volunteer painting jobs for minor institutes for the sole purpose of getting more mana to kick the habit.
I am currently going through a hellish divorce and started hitting the bottle hard about a year ago. In the end, what worked for me was doing shots of beer (2 shots every 15 minutes). That is just enough to keep the shakes and sweats at bay. Do this for 2 days and then go down to 1 shot every 15 minutes. Take magnesium, b12, thiamine and drink FUCKING TONS of water. Avoid dairy, avoid deep fried shit. Take any extra vitamins that you can, eat fruits, veggies, beans, lean meat and WATER WATER WATER. You won't want to, but get up and exercise (even if it's just taking a walk). Godspeed, Anon.
how do you know you have a problem with it?
>maybe you don't
>>767934165
Beautiful advice there! I hope that your life will get back on it's track, anon.
>>767934294
Only you can decide if you have a problem. Until then, nothing anyone says will matter.
>>767933768
I have the exact same problem. I like AA because 1. it doesn't bill insurance and 2. some of the literature/ things discussed at meetings can be helpful. For example just reading in the big book that every problem drinker has tried things like only drinking beer as opposed to liquor or only drinking on certain days helped me accept that I was in fact a problem drinker. But the core concept of AA is the higher power/ god shit and it's so frustrating as I'm sure you know because they dismiss it as being optional/ whatever you choose to interpret it as but if you really don't believe in jeebus or any god you're kind of left hanging.
The other big problem I have is the hit or miss nature of meetings. Some are really helpful and give me good ideas to think about/ stay sober but all too often it's just old guys circlejerking about how tough it was back in '79, or heroin and coke addicted bi-polar people who need to be in inpatient care not telling sob stories in a church rec room.
All in all I think it can be helpful but there's a lot you're just going to have to fill in for yourself with or without AA.
>>767910906
Spoilers: you're not making it to that appointment. Cancel now do they don't charge you
>>767933806
now that escalated quickly.
>>767932572
You don't want to go to a detox place. Friend of mine did and said it was creepy as fuck, and in some states they have too much power ( ie, can keep you involuntary if they deem you are a danger to yourself or others). Then you have that shit on your record.
>>767934344
>you're just going to have to fill in for yourself with or without AA.
Yeah, you're right about that. AA is ad hoc by design, and while it may be great for some, it drove me nuts. I hated the silence while waiting for someone else to talk.
Among the things I did like was the fact that at the end of it all, it's up to you the alcoholic to fix yourself. Lots of people are ready and willing to help, but it all the help in the world won't do shit unless you're ready for it.
Gotta run. Good luck all on the sobriety path.
>>767934344
>>767934599
Take care sweet prince.
>>767934305
Thanks, man. I'm about a month sober and I feel fantastic. Insomnia is normal and will last for roughly 2-3 weeks. Keep in mind that I had very bad withdrawal symptoms including shakes, sweats, insomnia, hallucinations, spasms, but this method really worked for me. Obviously talk to your doctor if you can, but you CAN do this to all out there struggling with alcoholism.
>>767932820
Cut back gradually over a period of at least a month or two. Start with the vodka first. Cut down, a shot or so a day and gradually switch to beer only. Start eating right, and start vitamin supplements, but don't over do it. Heavy drinkers are deficient in a lot particulary b vitamins and magnesium. Start going to a sauna, but drink plenty of water, but again don't overdo the water.
>>767934720
Absolutely awesome. Thank you for the insight and support, man.
>>767934165
This Anon Is spot on. But dont forget the sauna. Milk thistle will help heal the liver too.
>>767934621
>>767935492
>>767928456
Jesus Christ anon. Leave a little for the next guy.
>>767933539
Not really. It's beyond obvious to us all you are a samefagging dipshit.
>>767933624
Hrmm.... will keep the bottle for a bit then and just try to stay out of it. Thanks man.
>>767934915
No problem. Alcohol will consume you and destroy your life if you don't get a handle on it. A few more tips:
Avoid caffeine
Put lemon or lime juice in your water (helps with detox).
Eat even if you don't feel hungry, but don't over indulge at first. Try "grazing" throughout the day for day 1 and 2.
Chug a Gatorade or Powerade before bed (or any sports drink with electrolytes).
Remember that many people have gone through this and are currently going through this. You are not alone.
Cravings are like a wave. It's gonna come on strong, but let it wash over you, tough it out and they do subside.
Keep in mind how much better you'll feel and how much money you'll save.
>>767933806
https://youtu.be/fzuvQXDUybE
KEK. Finally got descent internet. Never even had an xbox 360 yet. Should be cheap entertainment. Old grand theft auto moding looks like fun also. Anyone know if its all pc mods or can you do cool shit on the xbox?
>>767935877
>>767934134
Thats my main problem i think. Nothing to do here but drink. Everyone that grows up just goes home and doesnt go do shit.
I would uo playing quarters with my best friends son and some of his friends last week. The graduate high school saturday.
I guess its time to throw in the towel. Maybe try and make some sort of club again. A lot of people keep wanting to try blacksmithing. A dirt cloored pole barn might be a good start
>>767936561
Exactly, just one thing though, don't go for the booze after you hit the anvil.
Take a warm shower, cook up some ribeye, and you'll be fine.
>>767934449
Welp, fuck that then.
Thanks
>>767934868
I try and get a gallon of water every morning on the way to wok and as son as i get my kitchen counter back together i will start my diet again. Lost 40 fucking pounds last year with 0 exorcise just to gain it all back.
>>767934984
No saunas near me. A 20 minute skin burning shower work maybe?
>>767936728
Cool. Wilp be anon
>>767937211
Will do ffs
>>767934449
I'm from UK and going to detox was probably the best thing I ever did, they monitor your withdrawal and give you meds but at the same time they put you in like day activities, acupuncture, art classes, bike rides, cooking, guided meditation etc etc etc
>>767936363
>>767937239
I didn't want that shit on my record, and here in the u.s. the good ones are expensive as fuck and insurance won't pay for those. They send you ones where Nurse Ratchet is in charge.
>>767937438
>>767937611
We don't have "records" in UK, your medical records are privet and the only other sort of record would be a criminal one, and yeah it was pretty hard to get into I had to wait like 3 months, see loads of doctors and speak to a alcohol therapist twice a week, it's worth it though, I tried stopping drinking by myself and it made me real sick
>>767937806
>>767938697
I love /b/.
>>767938340
Nothing is private anymore. Regadless, glad you able to get in and congrats you're. My physical adiction was fairly mild, so I had the luxury of doing it on my own. But for some, detox is truly the only option.
