Anyone here thinking Ireland and UK should join can go fuck themselves! Those brave Irish souls did not die so that a bunch of bitches running some new liberal government could turn it over. You want a solution to the border problem? How bout you get the duck off of the island entirely. That solves it real nice. No borders in Ireland, final.
>>767728516 Fuck that. I don't care the time. Its only been close to a hundred years (which in historical views, is like two days...). Plus, over here, we want the Brits to just give us our island back. The people don't want it divided by THEIR decisions. But if there is enough cowards who can be lied to by the liberal media, then we may be forced into it. Democracy has raped this country and stripped it of its pride. Perhaps we need a monarch... one of our own kings, not an Englishman.
>>767728735 old fashioned views and anger. no solutions there. Northern Ireland isn't worth a penny to the UK economy, perhaps 1%, they don't want it. But they're stuck with it for now. Realistically it's would be nothing more than an expense to ROI too, there's a lot of social issues up there ; an expense not worth taking on for ROI.
>>767728956 Oh there was a solution, you just missed it (even though I made it pretty clear...). The Brits just leave Northern Ireland and let our island reunite. If you say they don't need it anymore, let us have. Like you say, its the 21st century. We can surely get past religious problems by now and live together. The only social problems are those left by the fucking English. They left a mess of Englishmen in Ireland. They need to leave or conform. Simple. Besides, we can handle taking on NI, because we aren't in it for the money, we want our nation. Besides, yeah, there is hate because if you know our history, you know how England raped us. Never again. And old fashioned views? They're pretty relevant still bud.
>>767729226 that's not a solution that is realistic or going to happen, and you know it. they can't just leave when there are people there that want to be part of the UK too, unless there's a democratic vote to pull out.
>>767729510 And the crowd agrees. The problems can be subsided and we want the leaders of these countries and have them sit down for a solution. The people of both sides honestly do want to reunite. There is actually a minority in the north that want to stay, but they wield political power under British rule. They have the loudest voice. Only a small portion of em would be angry. Our people want unity again. I'm sure you can think of something similar in American politics right now.
>>767727758 The Catholic nationalist population is growing rapidly, quicker than had been anticipated and when it becomes the majority then union with the ROI will follow. Be patient it's going happen well within in your lifetime.
>>767729226 Fucking retard. If Northern Irish people want to rejoin Ireland they can vote for it democratically like everything else. Don't blame Brits for fucking up Northern Ireland when it's you IRA faggots that started the violence.
>>767727718 >Solution to Brexit border problem. Britain pulls its head out of its ass, realizes it's fucking worthless as a nation, and rejoins the EU so at least all of Europe can crash and burn together, instead of looking like entitled, self-important shits and failing alone.
>>767729810 Let me stop you right there bud. You just drew a historical wall and you look stupid in context. England had been waging a slow, economic and social genocide to eradicate Irish culture and the Irish to make way for English colonists for hundreds of years before. The IRA formed as a group to fight in the Irish Revolution. Later, the members stayed around to continue to fight for Northern Ireland. Your comment is logically baseless and ignorant. Don't fight an Irishman on Irish history...
>>767729942 Yes, invade us. Please. And watch as the EU and possibly America jump on top of you for it. Have fun. Besides, our men in the defense forces are trained in top notch guerilla warfare because we are neutral. You can invade, you may even win. But you will suffer for it.
1. Ireland is happy to be in the UK 2. A bunch of extremists starts a terrorist attack without asking anybody's permission 3. They get their asses handed to them 4. "We must leave the UK because those brave men died ! THEY DIIIIIIIEEEEEED !!!!"
The Northern Irish people didn't fucking want to rejoin Ireland in the 70's. When they did the poll I think it was around 90% of Norn Irish people who wanted to stay as a part of Britain. You paddies just couldn't take it so you started blowing innocent people up. I have friends in Northern Ireland who's parents served in the police force and who have witnessed firsthand the IRA violence so don't try to frame it as 'IT WAS NORTHERN IRELAND VS BRITAIN' when you know damn well that the majority of Northern Irish people were and are for staying as a part of Britain.
>>767729991 >brings up things that happened in the fucking 1600s >thinks that justifies blowing people up and committing terrorism for a cause that the majority of northern irish people don't support
This is no better than saying blacks should have a race war with whites because whites enslaved them 100s of years ago
>>767731190 >changing the subject because you have no rebuttal to the democracy argument 90% of northern irish people wanted to stay as a part of Britain. Democracy had spoken so there is no fucking way you can justify terrorism. I would understand if 90% wanted to rejoin Ireland and Britain wasn't letting them, but it was the other way around.
>>767731031 >Majority of Northern Irish people descend from British settlers in the 1600s >Fuck Imperialism and British exceptionalism, those are garbage excuses for occupying a nation for 400 years >Kill the fucking Brits.
>>767731430 Yeah, man, just let those brit settler fucks keep voting to hold the top third of our nation, great stuff. Hide behind democracy like fucking America does while it invades nations left and fucking right.
I sure do love democracy, it does what it's supposed to, it sure does.
>>767731517 So what would you propose? Those descendants of British settlers have homes in Northern Ireland, they have families there, they grew up there, they interbred with Irish people, they also have rights, don't they? Or do you just not want their votes to count because they're descendants of people you don't like from 500 years ago?
I understand that Britain has been predatory to Ireland in the past and that they treated Irish people horribly but that doesn't justify terrorism for a cause that the majority of the people living in that place don't support.
>>767731794 Same answer as Israel/Paestine: Get the fuck out and give it back. Britain magically decided sometime in the last few hundred years that it didn't have to pay attention to people who already lived in places when it decided to put new people there. Fuck off with your "be sympathetic to the people who live there now" bullshit. Where was the sympathy when my great grandfather was fucking deported to the other side of the god damn planet because he was living somewhere he shouldn't?
Fuck you, FUCK ENGLAND, and I'll kill you myself you weak cunt, if I ever get the chance.
If NI were to join ireland we would be put under huge financial strain as it's basically a giant hood that doesn't generate any money. Ireland would be paying social welfare for all the weed smoking part time dj's with ranger tattoos until the end of time. England doesn't want it for the same reason.
>>767731962 So this is your position: people 500 years ago immigrated to Ireland, these people settled in Northern Ireland, they made their homes their, they found wives there, they made children, etc, etc. And now, 500 years later, we need to deport all of their descendants simply because people who they have no personal connection to 500 years ago did something bad. Are you fucking crazy? This way of thinking just makes you as bad as the British dictators like Cromwell who carried out all of these injustices towards Ireland.
>>767731430 I'm not changing the subject. You claim that >You paddies just couldn't take it so you started blowing innocent people up.
That is not why the Troubles between the 1960s-90s arose. Even if you can't be bothered to read a book on the subject there are a number of documentary series available on youtube which will give you some idea.
>>767732458 The reason the IRA was fighting was to get Northern Ireland to be part of the Republic of Ireland, that's what I'm responding to. You should respect the will of the people of Northern Ireland.
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