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Who wants to be a part of the new EcoFascist party?
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SEEDBOMB NIGGERS.
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We have most of the foundation worked out, including our military strategy
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I'm already part of a group but I support your efforts.
You may want to develop a new flag though.
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Actually working on that as we speak, just trying to get the word out haha
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>>767705720
Have another bump then, friend
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>>767706165
Thank you! This is a very important cause.
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>>767704710
do you mean people who tell other people what to do and commit acts of violence if they don't get their way? but with an ecology-based excuse?

are you prepared to meet similar resistance when you go to punch someone for eating meat?
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>>767705303
oh fuck yes. because in any cause, the most important part is WHAT YOUR FUCKING FLAG LOOKS LIKE.

when the ecofascisti get organised, you can march up the front. waving the flag. it had better be made of renewable and environment friendly materials, or some other, more committed fag is going to shove the flagpole up your ass until it comes out of your mouth.
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>>767704710
>>767704710

When did you fail out of economics 101?
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>>767706577
> plants more trees
> insects eat the leaves
> trees die
> insects don't even say "thank you"

bastards
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>>767707312
First of all, we're talking about fascism, not anti-fa you self-righteous sperg.

Secondly, we're not vegans. We hate vegans because they eat our lovely nature. What's the point of all these high-tech military operations if vegans are just going to chew through them all?
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I’m proud to say that I don’t burn coal for my energy, I burn the bodies of my enemies.

And I have a lot of enemies.
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>>767707463
Funny because fascism is historically more economically more stable than any capitalist society, possibly because that's more or less the point of it. Also nice double quote.
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>>767707451
Well, the flag is important. You don't want to be flying a flag that some Ledditor made based on the NSDAP and the Legionary Movement (as nice as the flag and the movements might have been).
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>>767707663
>First of all, we're talking about fascism, not anti-fa you self-righteous sperg.


do you even know what a fascist is? your confusion is understandable, because there are a lot of people using fascist tactics who call themselves antifa. sort of like rapists calling themselves freelance rape trauma counselors.


>Secondly, we're not vegans. We hate vegans because they eat our lovely nature. What's the point of all these high-tech military operations if vegans are just going to chew through them all?

if you're not vegans, then you should be planting meat. which is kinda what freelance rape trauma counselors do.
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>>767707549
I knowwww ;(
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>>767707878

any movement that needs a flag to inspire its followers is doomed to failure.

have you ever heard of Bruce Sterling's "Viridian Green" movement? he wanted to make environmentalism ... fashionable. like glamorous.

it didn't work because fashionistas are generally self-centered cocksuckers.
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>>767707312
>>767707463
>>767707920
Shut the fuck up with your Reddit-tier spacing you fucking faggot. Have an OC flag for your troubles, OP.
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>>767707858
>>767707858

>economically stable
>citation needed
>implying this isn't a troll thread
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>>767708087
>>767708087

>DUURRR IF U SPACE TWICE UR A REDDITOR DURRRR

How was high school for you, bud?
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>>767707920
I'm not here to debate some random commie autist who googled "what is fascism" and uses that as a basis for his ideas. Stop wasting everyone's time you fucking twink.
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>>767707920
rreeeeee
Street fights aren't an exclusively fascist tactic you fucking retard, in fact the big fascist paramilitaries (the Iron Guard, the SA, the Blackshirts) all got their start opposing Communist street gangs. Read a history book goddamn.
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>>767708280
>>767708280

Fascism and communism is cut from the exact same cloth.

Read a book.
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>>767708146

>when germany suffered a worse depression than the U.S. coupled with war reparations and infrastructure rebuilding

>when they fixed literally everything and their currency was one of the highest valued in the world at the time

>when they didn't fail economically but as a result of fighting the entire world more or less singlehandedly
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>>767708204
he'll let you know if he doesn't get kept down a year... again..
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>>767708204
>>767708366
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>>767708210
perhaps you could debate a 55 year old who has actually lived under a fascist government, and survived. you fucking teenagers don't know just how contingent your safe little worlds are.
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>>767708366
Literally no, stop being a fucking cuckservative sperg. You might as well say fucking monarchists are the same thing as commies and fascists because none of the three like liberalism.
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>>767708372

>unironically thinking Nazi Germany was full of fascists.

Are you just acting like you're retarded?
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>>767708450
Yeah Franco was so terrible, Spain is so much better off now LMAO
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>>767708450
And what government would that be.

"Survived"
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>>767704710

Fuck off, you stupid cunt!
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>>767708484
>>767708484

>One Party System
>Collective is more important than the individual
>Promotes revolutionary change over gradual
>Rejection of free market society
>Government control is necessary
>No individual rights
>Use of violence or dictator techniques
>Controls religion
>Planned economy


>DUURRRR BUT THEY DIFFERENT DOE
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>>767708842
Now you have me convinced you're from /r/The_Donald or failing miserably at trolling.
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>>767708997
>>767708997

Please faggot, refute any of my points.

I really want to debate a fucking autist right now.
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>>767708842
>One actually uses currency
>One is essentially free market but with small regulations to prevent economic instability which is what led to the party's creation in the first place

>Private ownership isn't an individual right is it

>All civilized societies should control religion

>Autist unironically pulls the "National socialism is socialism, communism and fascism are the same" argument
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MikeMa?
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And most importantly,

>Kid actually tries to start a fucking political debate on a joke post, as he is the laughing stock of the entire thread.
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>>767708842
>fascism has classes, Marxism doesn't
>fascism allows private property, Marxism doesn't
>fascism allows private enterprise, Marxism doesn't
>fascism is nationalist, Marxism is globalist
>fascism is religious, Marxism is atheistic
>fascism is autochthonous (Codreanu, Hitler, Mussolini all derived their ideas independently), Marxism derives directly from Marx
>fascism is idealist, Marxism is (or pretends to be) materialist
>fascism promotes the family, Marxism is anti-family (free love in Moscow)
>fascism is anti-Semitic (either explicitly as with Hitler or implicitly as with Mosley), Marxism is shot through with Jews

>rreeeeee they're both anti-capitalist so they're the SAME!!!! ;-;
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>>767709122
>>767709122

>One actually uses currency
>One is essentially free market but with small regulations to prevent economic instability which is what led to the party's creation in the first place

Neither of them is free-market. Do you even know what a free market is?

>Private ownership isn't an individual right is it

Sure is an individual right you dunce.

>All civilized societies should control religion

To what extent? If the society is a free society, they should be able to do whatever they want.

>Autist unironically pulls the "National socialism is socialism, communism and fascism are the same" argument

I posted like 9 points on how they're similar. You attempted to refute 3 of them in the most half-assed way possible.
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>>767709279
>>767709279

>implying socialist and marxism are the same thing
>being this retarded
>failing out of 9th grade social studies
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>>767704710
All socialists/marxists/communists in America are poor people.
You can't change my mind.
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i'm liking the idea, when do we get flags up?
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>>767709361
Socialism and Marxism are literally not the same, that's the point of my fucking post, you stupid boomer faggot.
Fascism is a kind of socialism. It's socialism for the nation, which is why a synonym is national fucking socialism. It's socialism without trannies, Jews, faggots, or national dissolution followed by a fire sale to international capitalists (looking at you, Soviet Union).
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>>767709295
>If the society is a free society, they should be able to do whatever they want

Spotted the anarchist.
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>>767709512
>>767709512

>HURRR I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
>SEIZE THEMEANS OF PRODUCCCTIIONNN FOR THE PEOPLLEEEEE

Please let me know how socialism has gone in the world's history. Oh what's that? Failed every time?

Shocking.

inb4 HURRR BUT THE CAPTALLISTS RUINED OUR SOCIETYZ
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>>767709616
If you don't have a right to sell your child into slavery you're not really free
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>>767709616
>>767709616

Obviously within reason. You don't get to start killing people with zero consequences.
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>>767709628
Fascism L I T E R A L L Y does not propose the seizing of the means of production (unless you consider nazbols fascists, which is debatable). You're spouting Marxist garbage and trying to attribute it to fascism.

Fun fact, the Nordic model much vaunted by democratic socialists, the bane of free market shills? It derives from Mussolini's Italy.
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>>767709504
We posted one earlier, however we can't get any constructive criticism or talk about this further because the thread was hijacked by salty commies/anarchists
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>>767709052
Okay because you said so.

>Collective is more important than the individual
No. Fascism actually endorses the individual because they make up the collective. Communism will not allow individualism because they fear it will lead to "greedy capitalism".
>Rejection of free market society
Fascism allows private businesses. Communism doesn't. Have you paid attention to your marxist history teacher faggot?
>Government control is necessary
By that logic, all ideologies require necessary governmental control. Conservatives and liberals want some form of governmental control. This is something an anti-fa anarchist faggot would hold against people that want to be civilized.
>Use of violence or dictator techniques
WOAH, FASCIST AND COMMIE POLITICAL EXTREMISTS! YA KNOW WHO ELSE HAD POLITICAL EXTREMISTS? REDNECK CONFEDERATES, LIBERTARIANS, IDENTITARIANS, ANARCHISTS, ETC. I bet you've seen your faggot friend chuck a molly at someone's house because they were deemed too authoritarian for his antifa ass.
>Controls religion
There are different types of fascism. Look up Positive Christianity you fucking faggot.

I've ignored half your other points because my answer covered them for one of your other points. Go suck a bong, degenerate.
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>>767709793
Not even commies, commies are good for a chat if you can get them to stop LARPing about the USSR. He's literally just a basic bitch Republican.
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>>767709781
Nazbol is not fascist. People call them fascist because they hold authoritarian views. They are literally communists, there is no debating this.
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>Fascist economic ideology supported the profit motive, but emphasized that industries must uphold the national interest as superior to private profit.

>HURRR BUT THEY DIFFEREENT DOE
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>>767709837
Please, elaborate, which McDonalds are you working at again?
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>>767709978
They're communists but communists who want nationalist authoritarian governments as the end goal, and hate Jews.
I figure eventually they'll realize that communism is Jewish and become Strasserites so I play along.

>>767710049
>get BTFO
>y-you're just low class!
Embarrassing.
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>>767710049
>Please faggot, refute any of my points. I really want to debate a fucking autist right now.
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>>767709987
>Fascism
The nation using capital for its own purposes
>Liberal capitalism
International Jewish capital using the nation for its purposes
>Communism
International Jews agitating the proletariat against nation and capital

Wow. Totally the same.
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Annnnnd thread died, autists took over bitching about politics instead of letting us discuss the beauty of ecofascism ;(
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>>767710373
I'm not an ecofascist per se but I get where you're coming from.
In my ideal fascist state we'd have a sort of parliament where different fascist factions could hash out policy. I think green fascists would have a seat at the table since a nation of concrete and steel but no forests or wildlife would be dreary as fuck.
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>>767710566
I like that idea. One of my concerns about fascism was the ideal of a single man leading the country and how corruptible that is, especially if someone with a different ideology snuck in. And if I'm being honest, the thread is pretty much a joke, I mean I'm pretty much a national-socialist on just about everything, and i do see the importance of nature and how it should be preserved, while still keeping in mind that humans are superior and it is neccesary to exploit nature to expand ourselves, as long we aren't causing detrimental(E.G. extinction)or long-term damage to the environment. I grew up believing in left-wing values, and the environmentalist still sticks with me. I just found the image of seed bombs online and thought it was fucking hilarious and awesome and decided to create a kind of semi-serious meme around it.
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>>767710123
>>767710158

ight lil bitch.

>No. Fascism actually endorses the individual because they make up the collective. Communism will not allow individualism because they fear it will lead to "greedy capitalism".

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>In particular, fascists criticized capitalism not because of its competitive nature nor support of private property, which fascists supported—but due to its materialism, individualism, alleged bourgeois decadence and alleged indifference to the nation.

HMMMMMM OK BUD, good try.

>Fascism allows private businesses. Communism doesn't. Have you paid attention to your marxist history teacher faggot?

Depends on the type of communism, faggot.

>By that logic, all ideologies require necessary governmental control. Conservatives and liberals want some form of governmental control. This is something an anti-fa anarchist faggot would hold against people that want to be civilized.

I was actually describing an attribute of both, which are both true. Governmental control meaning what you can and cannot say. You won't find that in America.

>WOAH, FASCIST AND COMMIE POLITICAL EXTREMISTS! YA KNOW WHO ELSE HAD POLITICAL EXTREMISTS? REDNECK CONFEDERATES, LIBERTARIANS, IDENTITARIANS, ANARCHISTS, ETC. I bet you've seen your faggot friend chuck a molly at someone's house because they were deemed too authoritarian for his antifa ass.

But once again, to prove they're similar in many ways, that was posted. Is it not true? Because you're acting like a little bitch right now.

>There are different types of fascism. Look up Positive Christianity you fucking faggot.

Oh, so there's different types of fascism but not communism. I get it now.

So back to your job, how much do you think you're worth?
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>>767710333
0/10
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>>767710880
No, there's different kinds of communism, too. Just like there's different kinds of liberalism. It's almost like the three are incredibly broad political theories that can have different formulations.
How can you be such a fucking retard? Please don't post again, this is embarrassing.
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>>767710879
Which is exactly why that's never ended well. There's always issues with societies that force people that provide services, into slaves essentially. Capitalistic societies pay people what the society thinks they're worth.

So, if you're good at a certain thing that people need, you'll make a ton of money.

But if you work at Burger King making $8 an hour thinking you should be making $15, I have some bad news for you.
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>>767711094
>>767711094

Point being, faggot, is that communism and socialism or any forms have no place in society.

Easily corruptible, thin governments will never last. They'll either kill everyone, get killed by another country or be forcibly replaced with a democracy.
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>>767710879
Yeah I'm not big on the Fuehrerprinzip. I get where it's coming from, with the war footing and the conflict between the Strasserite wing and the Hitlerite wing, but I think it was a really bad idea. I'm more on board with the parliament of unions Mosley proposed (obviously some unions putting up greener representatives, some unions putting up more traditionalist types or futurists or socialists or what have you).

>>767711196
I can recommend you some books so as to educate you and push you away from being such a circumsized-dicksucker.
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>>767711196
Also, when's the collapse of Norway coming?
Or China?
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>>767711335
>>767711335

>I can recommend you some books so as to educate you and push you away from being such a circumsized-dicksucker.

>here, let me show you some more fantasy books on why this "perfect" ideology has either failed, never been "truly" implemented or just doesn't work because of some dumb fucking reason. Anyway, give me your shit.
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>>767711335

I believe it could work if there was a lot of planning that went into it, to make sure it stayed single-party and not corruptible, the problem is I don't know enough about the inner workings or how someone would go about doing it.

If done right, then subsequent leaders could more or less stay productive and change a few things around, and seeing as how fascism is essentially national populism, I'm sure if there's a big enough issue then something will be done about it, even if it's not ideal.

But anyways, It's like 3:00 in the morning, I think I'm gonna hit the hay now lol.
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>>767711436
>>767711436

>china
>HURR ITS NOT REAL COMMUNISM

>norway
>what is a monarchy
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>>767704818
hnng
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>>767711468
I'm not a commie bro, I don't do the "it's never been tried" schtick. It's been tried, it's currently being used, and it works.

Anyway, for cuckservatives I like to recommend Pat Buchanan's works followed by Hoppe's "Democracy: The God that Failed." Neither of them are fascist; Buchanan is a paleocon and Hoppe is an ancap-cum-monarchist but they'll help to deliberalize you. After that, or if you wanna jump right into fascism I'd offer you Mosley's "Fascism: 100 Questions Asked and Answered." It's a short little pamphlet, about fifty pages, about the British fascist platform. The Doctrine of Fascism by Gentile and the Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest-Slavery by Feder are also good. I'm a big Codreanu fan but I won't recommend For My Legionaries until last, it's a fascinating read and he has good ideas but the Iron Guard never took power or articulated a platform so it's of limited use unless you're into ideas rather than policy.
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>>767710880
>Wikipedia/unsourced quote
Nuff said.
>Depends on the type of communism, faggot.
And yet you shortly mock that I pointed out that there's different types of fascism, faggot.
>Governmental control meaning what you can and cannot say. You won't find that in America.
Wait so you're talking about speech restrictions? As in...?
>But once again, to prove they're similar in many ways, that was posted. Is it not true?
Oh dear, you're a repeating record.

>>767711468
>>767711335
>implying that democracy is literally non-corruptible
Here's a wake up call faggot: The two party system just gives another party to corrupt instead of one. I'll also take "voter fraud, dumb populace, and special interests" for 500, Alex.

Your "autistic mickey-D's worker" is back.
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>>767712111
Fuck liberal democracy. However I think that the problem is in the system rather than in the idea of multiple parties. Not to mention that the parties tend to converge on the "center" of liberalism which is literally just rule by Jewish capital. Meanwhile a fascist "parliament" (I don't even like the word because it implies liberalism) representing the corporations would converge on the fascist mean.

Everyone would be a fascist, see, but we can do ecofascism, futurism and so on as the situation calls for.
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