Is it worth it?
Should I do it?
Will I regret it?
Tell me your perspective
It's too risky with the biased laws in western countries. It's stacked against men. High chance of the bitch going all eat pray cats on you, taking half your shit and slowly killing you with alimony payments.
Not always doesn't change the fact that this sort of thing happens way too much and that if the bitch does go all eat pray cats you are going to get screwed because the laws are generally stacked against you and the family courts are run by faminazis. Just the reality of it.
2. I don't know
3. I don't know
4. You never know until you try. Some couples flame out after one year. Be prepared to learn when to stand your ground and when to let stuff go.
No it's not my problem because I have thankfully dodged that bullet. A lot of others have not been so lucky. Men should know what they're up against with the system and take it seriously before they consider getting married. You are generally signing a contract which leaves you vulnerable to getting absolutely screwed should she turn on you one day. Add that to the cultural problem in that they are encouraged to do this sort of thing if they are "not haaaaaapy" (want to get back on the cock carousel at mid life crisis point) and the odds aren't good.
>is it worth it?
>should i do it?
>will i regret it?
probably at some point, but if you don't you'll also regret that.
you can't win op, you'll be miserable no matter what.
The best you can do is be miserable with someone you love and who loves you back.
>Is it worth it? No, married for 3 years, wish I could go back.
>Should I do it? Do what you feel, but always remember its like living with your mom all over again.
>Will I regret it? Probably, most do. I do.
>spouse cannot be made to testify against spouse
>Intestate Law (when you die without a will) tends to favor spouse above all others- including parents in the event of inheritance issues. This varies from state to state.
>spouse can receive health insurance from the job that their spouse works at
>most marriages end in divorce. Whether its due to hasty decision making by idiots or irreconcilable differences, it's a huge drain on life.
>Divorce can lead to insane stress and wondering why you wasted so much of your life if this was the ultimate result. It's life-changing.
>States vary again, but the longer you are married, the more entitled a spouse is to receive more of their spouses' share of assets.
This is a n example of what I mean: every 4 years of marriage, a spouse is entitled to receive up to 10% of their spouse's assets in the divorce, up to 50% at 20 years. The details are fuzzy to me, consult your local laws.
>Prenuptial agreements are a wise decision but rarely appreciated due to the implications they create: they protect each person's interests prior to marriage, but it says "I don't trust you that much" before you marry.
There are pros and cons, OP.
You gave a lucid and fairly exhaustive discussion of the points.
I'd like you to know I appreciate that.
But I'd like to add a bit more:
Getting stuck in a marriage with someone you hate (or makes you hate yourself) can be just as bad as divorce.
Also, just my opinion, but I don't think the rewards outweigh the risks. If you want sex, it's virtually growing on trees nowadays. If you want companionship, good friends are a worthy substitute.
I think I'd only change my mind if I met a woman so beyond what I've encountered throughout life that I'd mistake her for another species.
It's not worth it.
You will do it anyway because social pressure.
You will get fucked so bad you will consider murder and/or suicide.
But it's fine cause that's what everyone does, isn't it?
there are laws (civil level) that allow a plaintiff to sue in cases of malicious prosecution/abuse of process. A scenario:
"If you don't do what I say, I'm calling the cops and telling them you smoke weed, beat me the fuck up, rape me, etc. and there's not a thing you can do about it because I can cry on cue!"
There is something you can do, although it's not easy to prove (because despite our best efforts we can't remove humanity/emotion from the legal system) Tort law is an area that most people think of when they see court cases of Idiot A suing Idiot B for damages.
They won't get jailtime (typically) but they can be fined pretty harshly and it reflects poorly on their criminal record.
Well dubs don't lie but the trouble is trying to find one that isn't influenced by the cultural decline is harder than you might think. If you can't find that then you are far better of with a doggo.
I'm glad that I can help. All that you said is true, and the points I gave reflect purely any legal benefits I could think of.
If you're seeking romantic benefits or emotional connections, the points I made probably don't help lol
Probably been married longer then you/ve been alive - 30 years.
Was it worth it? For me, yes. For you (today) probably not. Too bad. You missed out on a good time.
>shit's all fucked up nowadays
Listen to this guy.
Everything's gonna change if you marry her, some days will be good and some will be fucking unbearable. You just gotta pick your battles.
>grayingfag here, 24 years with mine, married for 15 of them
>issues together that made us grow apart
everyone grows apart, the challenge of marriage is sticking with it anyways. Getting married isn't supposed to be a selfish pursuit of happiness.
It's about securing a good environment for your children and not letting your own desires get in the way of that.
Only worth it if you are a cuck who wants to get robbed of half your shit
If you have kids your money will go down the drain and if you wife gets convinced by feminazi propaganda that she deserves to be treated like a princess and sex should not be mandatory because it’s her body she will just divorce you, fuck some negroid and still make you pay for her trips to NY and the kids lol
So basically only do it if you are a suicidal cuck
>true alpha way
Just stay single, and keep living the life while still being able to drop any bitch without having to worry about getting kicked out of your house and have niggs walk in to fuck you ex
I've been with my old lady for ten years. There's been a lot of talk about marriage. There's been a lot of talk about kids. She actually doesn't want either. And I'm okay with it. It works for us.
Need more info on your situation. I was against marriage for a long time. Now i am happily married. It all depends on the situation. Give me details and I'll tell you what's up.
Even most of the legal benefits can be made superfluous by a little bit of forethought.
you could just manage your money better, and you'll have more to spend on yourself if you don't spend it on the wife
>spouse cannot be made to testify against
If you do commit a crime, don't be sloppy about it. No accomplices, if possible.
>dying without a will
...don't do this
>spouse can receive health insurance from other spouse's job
That might be the only one that's halfway decent, but with women as a demographic choosing domestic life, it probably won't count for much.
yeah and how is that a problem?
It's your job as a man to make her want to have sex with you.
If you think married women should be obligated to have sex with their husband and see the lack of said obligation as a problem, you are one sorry ass man.
you should only consider marriage if said partner loyal
basically you should only marry if you've won the gf lottery
also wait minimum of 4 years before giving her your cockring
She actually cornered me at work. She came up to me and asked me for my number.
She used to sit outside for me when I went on smoke breaks. Was afraid to approach her then one day I went and sat down next to her.
The rest is history.
All women eventually go crazy. It's a matter of time.
I know plenty of dudes who marry cool ass chicks.
Basically I feel like if you have doubts about it before marriage don't do it. If she's crazy before marriage it's over once you signed the papers.
this. a lot of people (or at least /b/ posters) seem to think men who are anti-marriage are all mgtow cucks. while a lot of them are correlation doesn't equal causation. in reality if you're going to date a girl long term, and not marry her, and keep her happy and okay with it, you have to be more alpha than if you just decided to propose because that's the "normal" thing to do. in reality t's just smart to be aware of the risks. the way i see it it's high risk low reward. if a woman were to leave me because i don't want to sign a contract with her and the government that basically just gives her more power and you less, that's a bullet dodges imo. The marriage system is so stacked against men, especially if you have money. you have to either be an idiot or 100% sure you found the right one and she will never change for the worse, to get married. but even then i still don't see the point. its a waste of money. a dress you wear once, useless gold and diamond rings. im generally anti-consumerist and don't like wasting money on stupid or unnessecary shit, and weddings are like that by nature unless you have some private wedding with just the 2 of you and nothing fancy but then what's the point. also there's the whole religious aspect and I'm not christian. really just nothing about marriage thats appealing to me.
How would you rate your looks?
Cause it seems like you stumbled ass backwards into a great situation, and that just doesn't happen unless there's something out of the ordinary going on.
my parents have been together for 40+ years and still doing good.
They work together, make jokes and laugh all the time and generally good vibes. Also have regular sex.
don't know what you are on about.
I was harsh with my words. But I was also speaking generally.
More towards high maintenance women. So I apologize.
It's so hard for two people to get along for so long. That's amazing that they did. I'm happy for them.
Kinda drunk so I'm not 100% coherent
I personally don't see many upsides to marriage, at least not unless I've been with someone for years and I know it will last. Why legally tie yourself to someone unnecessarily? The only real tangible benefit is a tax break. Just live together, why do you need to be married, fuck, just be engaged indefinitely if she craves commitment but there's no reason to actually marry
they're the exception. Marriage failure rates are pretty high and that's just the couples who legally divorce sometimes a marriage can be dead for years but the couple keeps going for some reason whether it be religious or economic
Marry an ugly woman with more money/resources than you.
1. She will be more grateful.
2. If divorce happens you can clean her out.
3. It's a survival strategy that has worked for women for thousands of years, about time we guys get a chance.
that's tough anon, you have my sympathies.
I have an idea for next time this happens.
Next time you are having an argument and she asks you this question, pause for a few seconds, lower your voice, look her straight in the eye and ask here calmly "do you want a divorce?"
>Is it worth it?
The only thing that makes marriage worth it are raising your children and having someone who unconditionally loves you (until they become teenagers)
>Should I do it?
>Will I regret it?
The only thing that keeps me from driving off into the sunset and starting over is my daughter. My wife & I were inseparable and perfect for each other. You get married, then you stop giving a shit and expectations drop for each other. You become content with your partner and life.