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The USA should require their electorate to have at least 2 years of education past high school before they can vote. Change my mind.
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>>767677418
Ok
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>>767677418
knowledge does not = wisdom
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If that means niggers can't vote, then I'm all for it.
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>>767677418
I won't, I live in the US and I think you should have to take a competency test every so often to see if you know enough about what's going on to make an informed and rational decision, just don't want all the ignorant Walmart Americans voting
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>>767677418

You think people should pass arbitrary rules to satisfy their rights because you think ti will favor your self-interest. Your too stupid and douchy to change your mind.
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the racist left
http://college.usatoday.com/2017/03/07/report-the-race-gap-in-higher-education-is-very-real/
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>>767677418
That means Tyrone, & Shaquisha won't be able to vote liberal fag.
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Because trump and the entirely conservative top 1% will buy all the colleges and only let people like them get degrees.
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fundamentaly wrong in so many ways anon, you obviously need to see the world a bit, not eberything runs by your shiny subrb's rules
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>>767677711

You likely wouldn't pass.
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>>767677796
The non-racist right?
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No teens/no niggers/no druggies/no illegals.

Perfect.
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>>767677418
Problem is most colleges are teaching a liberal agenda curriculum.
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>>767677683
Look where they live, Red States.
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>>767677418
Why 2 years? Why not 8? Hell let's just get a king
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>>767677881
Kek all these butthurt replies about why that’s a bad idea are full of idiotic white nigger misspellings.
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>>767677970

A "liberal curriculum".

No, nigger, it's still just called "education."
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>>767677897
Thanks for the Idea op
>>767677418
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>>767677861
What a fucking punk. I'd love to wreck this dude.
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>>767677418
Why not just make it a PhD to be able to vote. Literally why not.
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>>767677628
Yeah but
>+ chromosomes =/= + wisdom
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>>767677628
wis·dom
ˈwizdəm
noun
the quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment
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Y'all keep trolling on the Trump Train. Fuck y'all. Time to FLIP THE SCRIPT.

1. Mandatory immigration
2. Mandatory abortions
3. Mandatory no guns, 2nd am. repeal
4. Mandatory universal healthcare
5. Mandatory college education
6. Mandatory weed legalization and weed smoking
7. Mandatory LSD experience (at least 3)
8. Mandatory tax on churches
9. Ban on religion in public establishments.
10. Fuck you.


Welcome to my world.
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>>767678155
Republicans would never win an election again
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>>767677981
this map is not accurate, gary, IN isnt even red and white people arent even advised to walk outside here or we get murdered
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>>767677418
I think they should require you to be a gun owner to be allowed to vote. I suspect neither of us are going to get our wish any time soon.
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>>767677418
The only people who really understand what is happening in a country are the elite, the economists and the proletariat. The proletariat is the first to feel the effects of crises. The bourgeoisie is totally ignorant about their country.
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>>767677418
The jealousy of you motherfuckers is getting very boring...

That's not in The Constitution of the United States of America, why don't you prove your point instead of asking others to disprove your bullshit.

Text here chump:
http://constitutionus.com/
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>>767677861
Someday somebody is gonna kill that nigger. That day can't come too soon.
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>>767677861
what a chad. Bet he gets mad pussy
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>>767678271
Uh oh, dumbass who doesn’t know the difference between intellect and wisdom
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>>767677861
Neither will your local sister fucking redneck, though, so fair compromise I'd say.
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We're going to need to overhaul the education system first.
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>>767678415
its 50% or more by county.

looks up Gary IN demographics. Lake County IN over all is 25% black and 64% white.
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>>767678415
Hmm. Actually here is the key for the map. Lake County Shouldnt be marked purple.
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I can't wait until whites become the minority in the US. It's coming, and it will be glorious,
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>>767678927

i was just proving you wrong when you said knowledge does not = wisdom

knowledge actually does = wisdom
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>>767679470
watch us have 500 men left and be the 500 most powerful and influential men in the world you fucking twat.
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>>767679533
knowledge is memory of data.

Wisdom is application of knowledge for problem solving.
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>>767677418
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>>767679532
Zarathustra
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>>767678271
>wisdom is the sum of 3 factors. knowledge is just one of the factors.
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>>767679555
You sound British...
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>>767677418
Passed high school? Gtfo
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>>767677418
As soon as the electoral college is no longer required to concern themselves with the dictated outcome that some may or may not require education to further their goals, the issue of a stagnant minority will become the prioroty of the state (to issue grant and immunity for minorities in collective) which will therefore become a stance of argument that the college is only obsolete by the demand that their be no minorities to withstand the outcome that education is now free (because we need voters) and that thus the education of the minority will cede the call that to instruct educational goals will have thus become a greater source of income (and now a whole bunch of tech schools) as the median form of income where the only people that succeed in life are the ones allowed to by over-whelming majority of republican and upper class voter's children that line the walls of the university itinerary.
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>>767677418
>at least 2 years of education past high school before they can vote
YES! Absolutely this! No more illegal immigrants, spics, and niggers voting! Republicans will rule forever
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>>767679732
I felt British typing that, I almost said Yank, but I am from the united states.

Odd.
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>>767677418
I once suggested that the right to vote should be tied to military service and got unfriended by all of my republicuck friends knowing that I am a veteran. So you're preaching to the choir, my dude.
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>>767679741
Oh, the irony. LOL
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>>767679470
It doesn't matter if we're the minority or not. We conquer and enslave anybody we want, anywhere we want, and have done so for all of recorded history.

Niggers meanwhile have contributed virtually nothing to mankind for their entire existence other than perhaps rap music and ho slapping.
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>>767677418
I'm fine with that so long as the "no taxation without representation" ideal is adhered to.
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>>767679976
Counterpoint: BEN CARSON
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>>767679918
>Liberal
>veteran
pick one
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>>767677418
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>>767679918
Probably because that is a stupid fucking idea.
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I think it would be a good idea to give someone a test before they voted to see if they were informed enough to vote.Everyone still gets to vote but only if they pass does the vote count.
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So guys who go into the military for their whole life can't vote? The simple solution op posted is from a simple, and is simply bad
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>>767679918
good? They should have done that, cuz that's stupid
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>>767679976
no you haven't lmao
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>>767679976
and the birth place of civilization
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>>767680143
>I think it would be a good idea to give someone a test before they voted to see if they were informed enough to vote
That;s a good idea. No soccer mom's, ghetto thugs, border jumpers, and comedy news show watchers will never be able to vote again.
I like it
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>>767680191
Fair enough. How about this idea: people who say "get the government out my life" and then say "I voted for Trump because my government forgot about me" should not be allowed to vote. Thoughts?
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Considering none of you motherfuckers seem to understand basic civics, regardless your political views, sure. But such a law would ultimately violate the Constitution without an amendment. I assume those really in support of it won't understand that because of the reason stated above.
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>>767680358
As long as the people who say " I'm all for free speech, unless I don't agree with you" can't vote either
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>>767680485
Oooh, nice deflect ;)
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Anyone posting about "tests " to weed out unfit voting electorate, figure they won't be eliminated. But they will be.
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>>767677418
So the lib teachers get to train the only people who can vote? Community colleges and technical schools are normal. But most 4 year schools are stupid ass lib, sjws, beta fags. But since you are the op im guessing FAG
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>>767680047
That's so weird tho, assuming people can't exercise their own will because they do x-thing. It's like saying black people can't listen to country music. Or like, a black dude can't sing country music and yet be rich, and even be married to a white chick and everything, kek. Yeah nigga, I'm a veteran and liberal. It's not like sasquatch or anything, ya big turdblossom.
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Yes lets require you to spend two years in a liberal indoctrination center before you can vote.

Now, two years in the military before you can vote, i'd back that.
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>>767680047
He probably meant actual liberal, not communist trying to get mainstream acceptance by co-opting the word liberal.
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>>767680090
It's not actually. I don't believe people like you should inherently possess certain rights simply because you were born here. I think you ought to risk dying before you can have some rights, like voting and owning a gun. It's only fair. People who think that's a stupid idea are too chickenshit to make the bargain. If everyone had to pay for the right to do shit in this country with their own blood, there would be less retarded ass people like you here.
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>>767677418
>2 years of womyn studies
I am ready to discuss the economy
Sick plan you brainlet fuck.
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>>767681045
Both of those options are not great.
I'd back not being allowed to vote unless you've paid taxes for the previous 5 years.
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>>767677874
Lol, in case you didn't know, the left already has universities by the balls.
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>>767680660

First of all, 4 year colleges are like 99% 18-22 year olds. Young people vastly lean dem/lib by nature. Fact.

Second of all: just because 18-22 young lib/dems ATTEND college does not make the institution itself a Dem/Lib indoctrination conspiracy. Try turning off Limbaugh/Alex Jones/Glenn Beck for a moment.

Third: Hilarious....Repubs are literally at war with higher education. I wonder why? It's almost like, the smarter you get, the less you vote Repub. LOL

Thoughts?
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>>767679822
Repubs have the lowest education, retard
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>>767681198
How about you stayed in school long enough time, when you did, to elicit a sense of conduct that created a civil sense of belief rather than fact based rhetoria? Civics is not civil and rhetoric is not rhetoria but naturally people believe a person is a part of a people as well.
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not trusting an uneducated populace to make their own decisions is literally why the electoral college exists and that system got Trump elected
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>>767681149
Is calling a white man cracker or a nigger black risking enough?
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>>767681433
Right. So there's a problem....
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Hypothetical:

You are Luke Wilson in the move Idiocracy. But it's actually the USA. What do?
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>>767677418
>people should have unequal rights based on mental incapability, psychological incapability, individual life-choices, economic struggles.
Cool, guess I dig out my grandfathers swastika-flag and march down the street side by side with you.
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>>767681433
Exactly. Moded butthurt faggots. Im glad this man or woman here exists. Smart person. Ladies suck this guys dick.
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>>767677861
It's funny how the poor uneducated redneck whites think that the left voters are made up of large blocks of even poorer, welfare seeking blacks. Even the poor need someone else to look down on. They don't realize they're actually the broke trash bringing down upper-middle class americans.
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>>767681198
>I'd back not being allowed to vote unless you've paid taxes for the previous 5 years
So you'd back illegal Mexicans voting? Because they pay sales tax when they buy groceries for their six kids, gas tax when they buy gas for their lawnmowers and panel vans, and road tax when they get tags and driver's licenses. That's a lot of taxes. Oh wait, did you mean "income tax"? Well, it turns out they pay that too. I'd back an illegal immigrant being allowed to vote if they served in the military. Know why? Because it shows they give a shit about this fucking place and not just that they were born of the dumbest dipshit country retard parents and magically inherited the right to think they know what's best for anyone else.
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>>767681428
You missed the point, and tried way too hard to bludgeon the point away with your pretentious dribble.
The point is to actually be a contributing member of society before you get a say.
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>>767681542
Party hard.
their society will surely sustein itself during my remaining life-span, so the point of the great collaps will not be my concern anymore.

I don't have children.
I don't ave family.
So why should I care when the whole population isn't worth saving anymore.
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>>767677418
That would work if those two years didn't come with an $8k to $12k price tag. That would limit voting only to the wealthy.
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>>767681794
Have you ever heard of the word "empathy"? If you don't have a lick of it, you may want to see a therapist. Tough talk, I know, but real talk.
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>>767678342
>mfw this isn't that bad an idea
>mfw no face
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>>767677418
You should be a land owning, tax paying, white male to vote. Change my mind.
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>>767681794
You sound like you have depression. One day you may come out of it on your own, but it'll be 20 years too late.
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>>767681900
Sorry, that was harsh. I know what you were trying to say. Family is most important. But there should still exist an inkling of well-wishes for those we don't know.
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>>767677418
>(((education)))
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>>767681900
I work in childcare.
Empathy is my profession.
Doesn't change the fact that the populace of ideocracy isn't worth a single dime, so why should I take the burden of factually their whole world on my shoulders, when I could just disrobe and join the orgy instead.
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>>767681699
Untrue and that you think the point of voting isnt to contribute as a part of the whole act means youre crying your ass over not having to take part in school through excurricular activities or work studies to think youve based yourself more in contributing as you volunteer in order to better suit your argument a realistic outcome. 5 years of
paying taxes? Youd be 21 before you could vote and what if you got fired? Youre a whiny bitch, stay off my ballot.
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>>767677418
That's not a terrible idea, but it's about unlikely of getting guns banned
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>>767677418
You should have a certain level of education and you should be contributing to society in some way. aka no niggers
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>>767682044
The triple parentheses means "HUGS", right? If so, gaaaaaw, thanks :-D
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>>767681542
Invest in brawndo
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>>767677970
>>767680660
>>767681045
highschool dropouts detected
nb4
>Wendy's chef 250k /year

>>767678342
>8. Mandatory tax on churches
Actually this. Fuck those money grubbing faggots. And to think, "conservatives" bitch about gibs...

>>767680838
>LITERALLY HITLER
k fam
>>767681149
>forgetting the military doesn't protect the country, it protects the interests of globalist multinational corporations
>the US should be more like Israel
k fam
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>>767682033
did you somehow confuse your hypothetical scenario, and my answer to it with what I'd do in reality!?
Duuuude...
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>>767677418
Jokes on you. That'll stop niggers from voting. Goodbye Democratic party.
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>>767681990
Rebolution!
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>>767682227
my bad brother, trying to keep up....
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>>767677418
and people should be educated to vote also. but that is a very big slippery slope that goes against the principles of the US and any nation that deems itself to be democratic
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>>767682092
Compassion not empathy. stop feeling up those children.
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Don’t be on any government handouts (otherwise you’ll keep voting for the ass giving you free shit) and be able to pass a simple civics class. If you don’t know what a state treasurer does, you shouldn’t be voting for that race.
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>>767677889
but he had double digit dubs followed by trips then ended with dubs...

this man can fuck my sister and mom if he wanted to you newfag lil shit
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>>767682028
armchair psychologists make me tired.
do we want to dive deeper and find out where your motivation to principally tackle problems too big for your shoulders stems from?
It's Friday evening, and you're sitting on /b/.
Fix yourself before you attempt to fix the world.
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>>767682270
>forgetting niggers make up only a small portion of the country
>forgetting Hillary still won the popular vote
You might want to rethink that position... better yet, just thinking in the first place should do it.
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>>767677861
The big guy can't take a punch but the lil chick takes like 10?
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>>767677861
pretty sure this guy and those women never voted and his just did a felony with that assault so he could never vote
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>>767682396
Make me
( ͡~ ͜ʖ ͡°)
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>>767682270
You spelled rednecks and republicans wrong. It's ok, I know republitards aren't the smartest kids in class, you tried
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What's wrong with mandatory universal healthcare? Studies show you'll actually be paying less than your monthly premiums, and bonus, no one suffers because they can't afford care. Longer lines? Ask Canada, France, Germany, and several other countries with universal healthcare about how they feel about that, and if it's worth the trade-off. Hint: these countries would have overturned universal healthcare coverage long ago if it was so horrendous. ;) Change my mind.
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>>767679532
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>>767677758
you're*
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>>767682449
I'm not trying to fix anything. I don't care about you. I was just pointing out the obvious.
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>>767682449
I dont intend on using friday in that case. Maybe i'll work on a game or finish out one of the other ones i spent money on. I paid taxes on those goods. Can i vote now?
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>>767682560
I am transformed
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>>767677418
IQ tests are more indicative of intelligence than paying for college classes
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>>767682626
>Germany
German here.
had a car-crash when I was 9yo and lost my upper front teeth.
I'm 30yo now, and our " mandatory universal healthcare" won't pay me propper implants or permanent prosthetics, causing me to lose molar teeth due to wear and tear from the clamps of my provisories every few years or so. I'd need to pay up 15k for propper implants on my own.
Since I can't afford that, my upper tooth-row will be toothless by the time I hit 40.

fuck universal healthcare.
private coverage would have allowed me to get implants 10 years ago.
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>>767683015
point being, yes everyone gets treatment, but you don't have a say in what treatment exactly, and usually it's shit.
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>>767682851
And the sense that someone could add up the days worth of income could give you more insight over their sense of intelligence being acquired than any IQ test could hope to grant you. What's your point? Unless it becomes indicative, without any real sense of judgement, IQ, and in that case assesment results, would mean that anything with a pulse, even snek, could more than likely usurp enough authority through blood snek matters and such to more properly combine an approach that is more indicative of guatemala than it is of the usa in terms to do with american democracy. So then have you any grey poupon or should i just use sugar? I hate posting on vietnamese sewing circles som>>767682851
etimes.
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>>767677418
college degrees are more common than people with common sense so I do not agree.
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>>767683209
If they had the gaul to ask us what we need, theyd expect services to provide junctures for that, like the fcc and tv broadcasts, but really how many jews do you know and how many can be said to have any money not out of the equity in their homes or of the stock branches they move their 6 million among to? I hate the jews.

Google started out this way. Alta vista too but they made warez accessible with a lot of ease and almost provided them so they didnt boom as well.
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>>767677418
Requires citizens to pay a private company, the college.
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>>767678342
>mandatory abortions
i zozzled
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>>767683015
Thankfully your family didn't go bankrupt from the car crash. I'm sorry the cosmetic is not covered in your country. Maybe in other countries it would be.
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>>767677418
I think we should just make the 10 or so most intelligent people in the nation decide the fate of the presidency. What could go wrong with that?
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>>767678659
THIS!
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>>767678092
>liberal curriculum
>education
Ok jamal
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>>767684896
If the left swayed as hard to the left as the right did for Trump, who would the left put up?

Snooki? Britney Spears?
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>>767685340
I got it. RuPaul.
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>>767685321
Jamal, I agree. Is the point that you exist why you exist. No. Curriculum for a particular kind of education. Batter on meat is not a bun. Batter on batter is a bun. Batter? Maybe then its dough. Nevermind but you get it. Its not my job to teach you, Jamal. And I'd fail you so lets not get into that.
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>>767682270

Kek. About 15% of niggers vote. If fucking Al Sharpton was running they wouldn’t get off their lazy asses.
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>>767685340
Whichever monosyllabic rapper was hot at the time.
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>>767677418
Only white male property owners should be allowed to vote change my mind.
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>>767681641
WTF Mexican here

No blanco aqui pendejo
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>>767686122
I actually can't wait until Mexicans are majority in the USA. Fuck white people. MANDATORY IMMIGRATION
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>>767677418
Sounds convenient but what you'd really like is just uneducated republicans to not vote. You'd be perfectly okay with uneducated minorities still voting.

Reallocate the money of the working class to pay for 20somethings useless college degrees among other social programs to perpetuate/increase the number of those in poverty while denying the same working class the option of voting against having their money stolen.
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>>767677418
Nope there should be a competency exam prior to voting with questions similar to both an IQ exam and a citizenship exam.
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>>767686247
True.

So, I'll edit my proposition:

If you're white and from a town with less than 100,000 population, you must past a high school level civics class. You must also participate in debate class, being forced to argue both sides.

If you are black, Mexican, or asian, you need not bother with such silliness. Only dumb rural whites.
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>>767677418
So, very few blacks and Mexicans voting then? Sounds good.
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>>767685340
The ROCK OR SPIELBERG
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>>767686221
Fuck you I love all the white people, this is their country we have no right taking that away from them.

I hope Trump will not just deport us Mexicans, but all those Islamic assholes also.
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>>767686221
I've worked with a lot of Mexicans. They almost always have more than one job and do everything quickly. There's always a sense of urgency. I'd rather work with Mexicans than white people.
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>>767686636

See recent proposal:
>>767686412
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>>767678271
College ≠ Knowledge
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>>767686717
White people suck. Blacks and Mexicans will soon take over. And it will be awesome. Buckle up, ya redneck fuck!
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>>767687049
Ehh....not so sure about that.
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>>767681641
Think again, you broke ass gullible fuck.
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>>767687049
Do you think someone who has traveled the world to multiple countries has more informed world view, versus someone who was born and raised in Bumfuck, Kentucky watching Fox News?
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>>767687147
It's 2018, I can learn PHd physics on my computer.
I can learn to code on my computer.
I can read just about any text book on my computer.

What are you on about retard?
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>>767687244
>someone who has traveled the world
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>>767687094
Hell no, I will stop all you antifats from doing that.

Los gueros will rise again.
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>>767687270
Please, get your PHd in Physics via YouTube, and then post here on 4chan and let us all know the ground-breaking theories you have come up with. We'll be waiting...
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>>767687244
No, not in 2018, they can see the world just fine from their computers.
A little discernment goes a long way, smart guy.
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>>767687338
>lease, get your PHd in Physics via YouTube
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2 extra years of leftist indoctrination you say?
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>>767687338
You're an idiot if you disagree.

Any textbook anon, at our fingertips.
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Before they do that they need to make that shit affordable. Ijs.
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>>767687474
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>>767687413
>leftist indoctrination
TFW Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and dumb Trumpfucks keep calling higher education "leftist indoctrination". LOL
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>>767686221
United States of Mexico INC!!!!!
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>>767677418
Why do you hate black voters?
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>>767687551
Says the retard who apparently can't read words on his computer screen unless it's in the form of messaging.
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>>767687597
Hey man! Thems higher maths classes like Calkulus and Differing Equalities and them darn Phisucks are makin' our youth dirry stinkin LIBRULS!!!
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>>767686412
Wh*te "people" succ
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>>767687713
MY COUSIN WENT TA COLLIGE AND HAD TO LERN ANOTHER LANGUAGE, AT THAT POINT HE BECAME A DIRTY STINKIN LIBRUL!!!!!!!
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>>767677418
>he doesn't realize that would result in a white/republican supermajority for the next fifty years
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>>767687816
>+3 Int
Fuck yeah!
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>>767686412
>pay up for our social programs, whitey

>also you have to pass special tests to keep your voting privilege
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ABSOLUTELY!! they definitely need two more years of liberal indoctrination. How else will we be able to test "real" socialism for the millionth time??
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>>767687823
>Playing dumb
>Not believable
>Or funny
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Maybe the US should try one man, one vote thing first.
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>>767687878
Lol
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>>767679628
>>767678927
>given the dictionary definition of a word
HURR NO NUH UH THATS NOT WHAT IT MEANS HUR
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>>767677861
is that girl made of fucking steel?
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>>767677418
sure thing, commieniggerjewfaggot
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>>767688129
then why does D&D list them as different stats, BOI?!
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>>767688094
Das Right, you wish you could get +3 Int from slaughtering rejects on the 4Chinz.
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>>767677418

>change my mind

All curriculum will now be set by and carry heavy bias towards the current government due to these new requirements.
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>>767677711
this is a terrible idea because the people he decide weather or not you pass are going to have political opinions themselves and if they organize can control the entire election
>>767677418
this is a stupid idea because having post high-school education says more about your financial status than your level of intellect.
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>>767688421
this is already the case
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>>767679555
>"watch us"
>"us"

>"i'll be part of a hypothetical 500 elites because of skin color relation"

hate to bring it to you but you'll never amount to anything less but a faggot shitposting on the internet, you little trump cuck
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>>767677418
Wrong.
Only land owners should be allowed to vote.
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>>767688589
*anything more
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>>767688317
>sorry, but I'm going to have to go with D&D over the dictionary that defined the fucking word
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>>767688495
no it's not even close to being true, did you go to college?
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>>767687991
HEY MAN, I WAS FORCED TO TAKE A FOREIGN LANGUAGE, MATH, AND DUMB ASS COMPUTER SCIENCE COURSES. AND CAN YOU BELIEVE IT??? I HAD TO TAKE AN *****EARTH SCIENCES***** CLASS WHERE WE LEARNED ABOUT MAGMA AND SHIT. THEM LIBRUL FUCKS TRIED TO INDOCTRINATE ME!!!! NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER CLASS I HAD TO TAKE, "THE HISTORY OF ROCK N ROLL". WTF!!!! THEY BRAINWASHED ME!!
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>>767681641
>when you are a marxist but you are middle class, so you look down on the lower class
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>>767677418
>Hmm...He was behind of it.
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They will vote in line with how they are educated and education standards are set by the government

Do you see the problem here dumbfuck
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>>767688331
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>>767677418
gender studies is a degree, retards can still vote in this system
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>>767677418
The Dems would lose their entire voting base: young people and minorities. So yeah let's do it.
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>>767688638
yes, yes i did. you apparently either went to an online college, a cheapo old person college like ITT, or didn't go at all. do you think its a coincidence the primary driving political influence from the left is from universities, here in the us, and in canada?
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>>767688814
>Periods
>Commas
>No capitalization
>Properly Educated
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>>767688814
urban/rural is the primary driving political influence in the us.
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Dude, my college experience was a NIGHTMARE. I was FORCED to take a foreign language, SEVERAL math classes, SEVERAL computer science classes, ONE Earth Science class, fuckin' Humanities aka Art 'n shit (oh the humanity!) and I'm still in therapy trying to undoctrinate myself from the librul lies they implanted!
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>>767688911
this is 4chan. your opinion on my use of language means very little to me.

>>767689009
youre right. i articulated my position wrong. i would have been more correct to say that there is a disproportionately leftist lean to college campus professors and students.
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>>767689155
I read somewhere that this is because conservatives tend to major is things like business whereas liberals major in humanities, thus end up in teaching positions. Then it became a positive feedback loop. I don't remember the source and I don't think it gave any sort of proof so I'm reluctant to believe it.

It sounds true though.
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>>767677861
can we get source
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>>767689333
sounds believable
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>>767677418

I'll give you that but lets add a few.

On welfare?? no vote

Woman?? No vote

Not land owner No vote

NOT A CITIZEN (im looking at you Cali) No vote
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>>767689333
>When a professor is granted tenure at an academic institution, she is receiving a specific set of administrative and legal rights that includes the freedom to pursue any academic research without fear of repercussions or losing her job. Tenured faculty positions are, in some sense, seen as "jobs for life."

This has to be stripped away in my opinion, too many extremist teachers these days need to be fired.
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>>767689333
Makes sense. All Republicans care about is business and making money. All Democrats care about is humanity and making money.

At least the Democrats exhibit some semblance of compassion.
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>>767677418
This splits us into 2 classes. Those with an education and those without.

Since education cost money post HS only those able to aford it will be able to vote

Leaves leaves a minority in charge of voting and excludes the general population

Good way to cause a revolution.
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>>767677418
College doesn't do shit to make you wise, or to make you have any fucking clue about anything that matters.
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>>767689531
Both parties care about humanity. They both want people to succeed and live good lives. They just have different ways of accomplishing it.
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>>767677563
>>767677628
>>767677874
>>767677881
>>767677889
>>767677894
>>767678022
>>767678040
>>767681698
>>767681808
>>767688473
>>767688589
>>767689566
>>767689660
Look at you, sittin' up there in the Shinkahoma Federal Clink like a jerk, with the likes of Beebus Merkelsby, "Ponce" McFranken and Timmy Dee "Six Dixons" Darvantrantzian - what the fuck is the matter with you?
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>>767689785
We meet again
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>>767689520
tenure is important for political freedom. if you removed it the first people to lose it would be people who advocate for freedom of speech
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>>767689785
i dont get it
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>>767689660
Fun fact: The Republican Party actually supported Universal Healthcare in the 60s/70s, that is until Big Business infiltrated their party. How's that for caring about humanity?
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>>767677418
Many people are hugely productive members of society without 2 years of tertiary education. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of farmers, small business owners, corporate workers, and government workers who do not have 2 years of tertiary education.

Not to mention the numerous police, firefighters, and military personnel who do not have tertiary education.
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>>767689809
Hey there!

>>767689882
That's the problem..... your mother is worried sick....
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>>767689922
okay. can you go back to the circle jerk threads?
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>>767689785
lol
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>>767689813
You might be right, which is even more sad.
But something needs to be done about it, perhaps rewritten in some manner.
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>>767689973
I thought I was already here?

>>767689978
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>>767689889
Fun fact: The democratic party (southern democrats) fought for segregation in the 60s/70s. Even after they lost that fight they stayed democrat until 1992. The law only passed with wide Republican supprt

Don't do the history thing anon. The history of the democratic party is far more troubling than that of the GOP.
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>>767677418
only if that education is relevant. A gender studies or BA doesn't qualify since indoctrination != education. I'd be in favour of requiring people tp undergo 2 years of training in economics, civics and law in order to be able to vote but I also think people should be required to be forced to undergo military training and be required to fight should a war break out. The women supporting Hillary really brought this home, they are happy to vote for a person who would start a war w/ Russia b/c at the end of the day they aren't the ones who will be killing and dying in the freezing mud. It will be the poor white men they demonize for voting against them. Knowing you will be the one fighting the war will force people to give more weight to who they vote for.
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>>767678342
>>767682139
>taxing churches

The USA was founded on the idea of "no taxation without representation". If you begin to tax churches, they will have a legitimate means of enforcing their wills into the government. Not to mention a lot of churches are basically community service/outreach/support programs the government doesn't need to pay for.

You tax churches? Great job idiot, you just made pre-marital sex illegal. You just made working on Sunday illegal. You just made eating shellfish illegal. You just made eating pig-based food illegal - after all, Synagogues and Mosques will have their influence now too.

Separation of Church & State goes both ways, asshole. It's funny how you cunts will bitch about the "uneducated" people, but have no fucking idea why certain things are set up as they are.
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>>767690001
the whole point is to allow people to reinforce political views, even if you disagree with them.
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>>767677418
You are ignoring a true Democracy. The people get to vote. Education is not a requirement as this would no longer reflect the citizenship of the country. Y'all should make voting enforced if anything, get a true representation of the median thought process of 150 million people.
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>>767690158
Yeah but when you're selling children ideas that won't land them jobs years down the road, while misleading them to believe it will, you're a piece of shit you shouldn't be pursuing teaching.
It's all about money, they don't care those retarded kids lives may be ruined by their resentment after.
In a perfect world, I'd love to see the Universities just not allow that garbage to be in Schools, let them "educate" people on their own time, but there's too much money in it these days and will never happen.
Profits are all that matters now.
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>>767690291
good thing the united stats isnt a true democracy and its a democratic republic instead.


yknow since mob rule is for retards.
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>>767690343
the problem is that someone has to make that call, and that argument is vague enough to be manipulated for political reasons.
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>>767677418
Thank God, no more nigger and Spic voters
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>>767690424
I agree, but to take it one step further...
Teaching kindergarteners gender studies should be illegal.
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>>767677418

Husband and wife both with a phd voted for trump

/thread
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>>767677418
look at the vomit and sensitivity training they get in state colleges now. i say you should be a property owner and earn enough money to pay income tax
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>>767690585
teaching it ethically would be fine.
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>>767690699
>ethically
Keyword, not something for little children.
It's also complete bullshit and not backed by science, it honestly has no place in Elementary Schools.
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>>767690103
"Southern Democrats" were a VERY small faction of the Democrat party as whole. But I see where you're trying to go with this: "Durrr, Dems started the KKK!, therefore Dems are the real racists!!" Hilarious.
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>>767690803
Dem Logic:
>Must be 16 to vote
>Must be 21 to buy gun
>Must be 4 to learn gender studies
>Must lower age of consent
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Racism is a Jew word and Hitler could've fixed things.
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Do y'all Trumptards realize you could have voted for Romney and gotten the same big business tax breaks without all the Trump shitshow?
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>>767677711
Sort of agree but a system like that would be open to abuse and wouldn't be constitutional. They already tried "literacy tests" to restrict black voting in the past and that wouldn't go over well today
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>>767691177
We're just good at voting in Noble prize winners Mr double dubs
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>>767690930
And alt-right republicans are a very small part of the GOP

>Durrr, Dems started the KKK!, therefore Dems are the real racists
Nope not really. I would argue there are not many active KKK dems right now. I am saying that going back into history is not the best idea. You took us back too history and I am just saying that is a loosing battle.

If you wanna argue current policy that's fine but I won't argue a party's platform 60 years ago
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El
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>>767691177
Romney is skull and bones. We would have gotten the same thing we always have before, nothing but lost freedoms.
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>>767677981
I could overlay a map of black and Hispanic populations over this and it would match up
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>>767677418
Dems will just lower graduation requirements, have you graduate at age 12, and give you a free JC diploma so you can vote.

Nice plan dipshit. Being an illegal alien isn't enough for you?
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>>767679741
Fuck bro.
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>>767691317
Fair enough, there is enough hypocrisy to go around for both parties. I choose, however, to be on the side of those pushing for social equality (gay marriage, a woman's right to choose), the federal legalization of marijuana, NOT privatizing healthcare, NOT privatizing prisons, common sense gun reform, and the abolishment of 4chan.
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Lol people thinking Universities provide "education" in 2018.

They are a social construct that leave you tens of thousands of dollars in debt, and IF you do manage to graduate, you end up working a job that you didn't need to go to college in the first place to work.


Get off the plantation, sheeple.
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>>767691645
>common sense gun reform
This is such a joke.
>and the abolishment of 4chan.
You hate freedom of speech, nigger?
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>>767677418
How bout only taxpayers get to vote? No representation without taxation, amirite?
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>>767691317
yeah man it's not like Hillary had really close ties with a very high up member of the KKK and she definitely wasn't taking lots of money from countries that regularly abuse women like Saudi Arabia or anything
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>>767691645
>common sense gun reform
It's amazing how many people say "common sense gun reform" but don't actually provide any examples of such "common sense gun reform"
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>>767691645
I'm all for a free market, except for healthcare and prisons When healthcare is profit driven, and when prisons are profit-driven, it is inherently unethical.
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>>767691915
It's because there is no such thing.
It's give me your rights or else.
This guy is pathetic, thinks the Goobermnt will take good care of him, obviously history proves him right. lol
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>>767681417
Whatever helps you sleep at night friend
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>>767677418
The number of minorities able to pass the first two years of post-secondary education is very low compared to whites.
Conclusion: your requirement is racist and constitutes voter suppression
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>>767691645
I support gay marriage- so does Trump btw. The GOP has largely backed off that issue

I am pro-choice though not on any moral grounds- I don't like morality, too subjective. I am pro-choice on the grounds that the government does not have the right to tell woman they cannot abort a fetus.

I support weed legalization. Throw a nice sin-tax on it and let it ride. DEA spends too much on that anyway

I do want to keep healthcare private on the grounds that the government in incapable of running such a massive system and it is undeniably better in the hands of the free market

I think the issue with prisons is the people in them- not their ownership status. We should take steps to lessen the number of people arrested. But dems and the GOP are equally at fault and dems are certainly not leading the way in fixing this issue

Define common sense gun reform

I love 4chan
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>>767677418
Not strict enough. You should need a PhD in a science, math, engineering field.
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>>767691645
btw this>>767692154
was me from >>767691317
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>>767683015
People should be able to purchase private insurance as well as there being a public option. Then you get the best of both worlds
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>>767691796
I didn't mention Clinton. I just said that I don't think many active KKK ppl are dems. Do you disagree? If you took all the KKK fags (all 800 of them) and asked them their political voting history do you think many were Obama voters?
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>>767678342
Holy shit. You know you can only pick like two of those simultaneously?

How about (we can achieve all of these at once):
1. Zero immigration (for all countries)
2. Zero abortions (now you'll think twice)
3. Mandatory guns for all males over 15 (no more crime)
4. Zero subsidized healthcare (all care paid with cash)
5. No more state-run colleges
6. no one gives a fuck except libs
7. no one gives a fuck except libs
8. I agree
9. Don't know what this means. No more god on money? Or no more prayer in schools?
10. Eat shit

You'll see society shape up pretty quick with the bonus of stifling government.
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>>767691796
It was a crime and the funniest thing is, Trump is doing the exact same thing. Private server with emails accessed by a third party and not turned over the the FBI upon request. I guess we got male Hillary.
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>>767685222
Toasters toast bread faggot
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>>767683015
You're fucking full of shit. I hear constantly that universal healthcare will solve all our problems and will actually lower our bills. Look at Cuba. Pills are like 2$ a bottle. We look to Europe constantly for the way forward. Maybe you're not doing it right?
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>>767691991
You're a fucking retard.

Extended background checks != "durr takin mur guns!!!"

Ban on bump stocks != "durr takin mur guns!!!"

Ban on military grade weapons for the public != "durr takin mur guns!!!"

Mental health checks != "durr takin mur guns!!!"

Convicted violent criminal == you can't buy a gun legally.

Of course this doesn't solve all gun violence, but at least it's a step.

"A criminal doesn't buy a gun legally!" True. But why make it easier? Especially with crimes of "passion".

Dems propose new gun laws, then the NRA kicks in and says "Libruls wanna take yer guns!!!" Not the case. Just more laws.

Do you realize you are required by law to wear a seat belt in most states? Guns? Nothing.

Do you realize you can't buy a pack of smokes or a beer at 16? Ah, but you can buy a gun.

Simply shit, gents. Just ask our neighboring countries and other modernized countries around the world. America suffers from a sickness of gun violence.
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>>767677418
Agree 100%
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>>767681414
https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21730156-fears-pandemic-snowflakery-are-overwrought-free-speech-american-universities
http://theconversation.com/explainer-how-campus-policies-limit-free-speech-58974
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/admit-it-american-colleges-do-indoctrinate-students/253607/
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/07/middlebury-college-professor-statement-principle-after-charles-murray-speech-cancelled
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/liberal-but-not-tolerant-on-the-nations-college-campuses/2016/02/11/0f79e8e8-d101-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.600ef30f4a6b
https://www.thecrimson.com/column/bleeding-crimson/article/2017/12/4/class-breaking-echo-chamber/
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>>767686122
Ah, the culturally rich, non-violent, hard-working, virtuous Mexican. So much so that his motherland is a technological mecca and only feels the need to immigrate because of his vast knowledge and his want to spread it. Never lies, never steals, just brings his gifts of human advancement. How noble.
>Fuck off.
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>>767692601
tl;dr?
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>>767687049
Studies have come out over the past few months showing that college graduates actually test lower than when they applied.
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>>767681414
I'm pretty well educated anon and def on the right.
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>>767692762
Hello, Russia.
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>>767692796
And what percentage of your college peers would you say share similar political views to yours?
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>>767692444
>Extended background checks
You mean database that stores everyone's name who owns a firearm?
>Ban on bump stocks
Why? They aren't even that effective, you moron.
>Ban on military grade weapons for the public
They pretty much are, you need a separate license for them, then you pay like 20-30 thousand dollars per firearm.
>Mental health checks
Excuse to get more goobermint jobs and regulate more, the number of firearm deaths per year due to mentally handicapped are slim to none. Nice try, nigger.
>Convicted violent criminal == you can't buy a gun legally.
You can't this stupid.
>Dems propose new gun laws
It's never ending anon, don't you get it?
>Do you realize you are required by law to wear a seat belt in most states? Guns? Nothing.
This gibberish doesn't even make sense and you're a liar.
>Do you realize you can't buy a pack of smokes or a beer at 16? Ah, but you can buy a gun.
So? Just because you weren't smart enough to wield a firearm as a child, doesn't mean you should impose laws on others who are smarter and more disciplined that you.
>Just ask our neighboring countries and other modernized countries around the world.
Hmmm, OK. Let's take a look at Mexico, see how it's treating them right now.
Or how about London, where there murder rates just surpassed NYC.
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>>767692719
There is a clear liberal/progressive echo chamber in universities and they actively censor opposing viewpoints.
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>>767677418
I'll do you one better: you have to have a confirmed .edu email address to even be on the internet.
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>>767692892
Hmm, it seems other anon is right.
Mexico is doing so well without their gun rights.
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>>767692892
Hello, Russia. ;)
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>>767677418
The point of democracy is not to reach optimum results, but stability through acquiescence.
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>>767692961
Yep, we definitely should ban guns n sheeit.
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>>767692977
Mexico was a shithole, but now tht they've essentially banned guns, tit's working out great.
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>>767692977
>ban guns
tfw when you can't follow the discussion
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>>767692892
Keep telling people the truth, unlike the moron you are talking too, some people appreciate sound logic.
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>>767693041
We both know your endgame nigger, shut your mouth.
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>>767686412
Not sure what you're saying here. Big city schools are scoring the lowest. You're saying you want rural schools to perform equally bad? Or...
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>>767677861
there are more uneducated white people than there are black people, just based on numbers alone. also, black people don't vote. Like, as a rule. black people vote like they tip. (black people don't tip) if they did, democrats would win way more often.

>>767677418
nothing turns people democratic like higher education, anon. why do you think fox news rails on colleges non-stop?
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>>767693018
"People are being murdered in <insert country here>. Therefore tightened gun laws in the U.S. will not work." Cool. Got it.
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>>767693041
But why stop there?
Maybe we should follow in the UK's footsteps and ban knives too.
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>>767693139
Yeah, it should totally work anon, just take a look at London.
Part and Parcel, amirite?
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>>767693156
Wow, what a great point!! Knives everybody!!!

Can you tell me why bazookas are not sold commercially? Or tanks?
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>>767692880
Well in my field at least half but lawyers tend to be more conservative. But there is a noticeable turn because how overwhelmingly liberal schools have become.
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>>767693156
GIVE THEM UP, YOU IGNORANT LITTLE DICKS.
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>>767687930
Not to mention that education already gets more money than defense and still keeps failing harder every year.
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>>767693234
>lawyers
kek, say no more
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>>767693221
We obviously buy knives to kill people and compensate for our tiny penises.

IT'S TIME TO END THIS AND TEACH THESE OLD FARTS THE TRUTH.
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>>767688638
This is completely true. College is just Dem indoctrination centers.
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>>767693221
>Can you tell me why bazookas are not sold commercially? Or tanks?
Are you implying I cannot buy a tank or RPG?
Someone cannot into google search.
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>>767693265
Not a fan lol?
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>>767693248
>education already gets more money than defense
should prolly double check that.
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>>767693280
COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.
IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.
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>>767693280
"cArS kIlL PeOpLe, wHy DoN't We BaN cArS????"

(that took me a while to type.)

And can you imagine if guns were regulated like cars were? Can you imagine if you didn't need a license to drive a car? No insurance?

Hmmm.......
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>>767688596
I used to think this for a while, but then I thought about it.

The average house in Detroit is $9000. If I buy 4 blocks of houses, do I get more voting power than a 1.2 mil 1/4 acre in silicon valley? What about Trump Tower, that's millions, does he get more than a rancher in Wyoming that has 400 acres? How would this work?
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>>767677418
No, I fully agree with you. That will make the alt-right and alt-left less relevant. It will also probably keep 3/4 of plebbit from voting because of how they answer:

>what are the three branches of government?
>democrats, republitards, independents

>who was the first president of the united states?
>FDR

>what is the Hatch act?
>regulations on chicken farms
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>>767693248
>pensions

whoever came up with that idea really didn't think it through
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>>767693469
And yet cars still kill WAY more people each year.

Really makes me think.
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>>767693552
(or they did think it through and secured votes for 40 years)
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>>767693481
This is a great way to start a revolution.
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>>767693469
With all those regulations, how many accidents are caused by the drivers of said car?
Now compare that to guns, it's not even comparable.
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>>767689889
Protip: the Republican party are still piece of shit shills. Thank god that Rep+Dem is still the minority.

If you're playing the "us vs. them" game, you're smaller than you think and you will lose.
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>>767677418
You'll still have retards and narcissists, except they'll come with a degree.

Nothing is changed.
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>>767677418
we should make our high school (and middle school, and elementary) actually fucking teach things instead of making teachers use 20+ year old textbooks to try to impart any understanding 40 fucking kids at a time. But that would require taxes getting paid by people with money to spare, so it'll never happen.

FREEDOM WOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>767693451
i don't get it, does the cake contain a controlled explosion that sends bits of lead half a mile away?
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>>767677758
"You're" you fucking autist. Also, YOU'RE a perfect example of who shouldn't vote.
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>>767693774
We need STRICT comprehensive Baseball Bat legislation immediately.
We need to force ANY buyer and USER to be licensed.
They must go through a 34 hour course to make sure they will never become violent with said Baseball Bat.
In that 34 hour training process, the instructors will assess them and make sure they have no violent bones in their body until the end of their lives.
Then and only then will ANY American be allowed to wield a Baseball Bat.
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>>767677970
Kys republicunt
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>>767692444
>Extended background checks
These already exist
>Ban on bump stocks
Literally useless unless you're also going to ban planks of wood and nails: http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1525487983840.webm
>Ban on military grade weapons
Define "military grade". Many militaries use glocks. Desert Eagles were designed for the military too, would you ban its .357 variant? The founding fathers were OK with people owning canons and explicitly stated that military-grade weapons should be allowed to be owned by the public.
>Mental health checks
These already exist, but I'm assuming you mean "more extensive". The problem is that mental health is not a simple "crazy" or "not crazy" and it's hard to draw a line. If someone is bipolar and on medication, can they have their rights stripped away? What if someone had a bout of depression 15 years ago? What if someone was misdiagnosed?

>Convicted violent criminal
This already means they can't buy a gun legally. This "common sense" reform was enacted a long time ago.

>Buy a gun at 16
This varies greatly state-by-state and most gun shops will not sell a gun to people under 18 anyway - and most states that do allow 16 year olds to buy guns usually restrict the allowed type.

>America suffers from a sickness of gun violence
No it doesn't.

London has a higher murder rate than New York now, despite their extreme gun control and even knife control. Shit, they take away literal toys.

The CDC estimates 500,000 to 3,000,000 defensive gun uses every year. There are 32,000 gun deaths every year, 60% of which are suicides. Should we be letting an extra 468,000 people (at minimum) be victims of violent crimes in order to stop, at most, 12,800 deaths? And keep in mind that the majority of those 12,800 deaths are from illegal firearms.
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>>767693710
So more money is the answer you fucking idiot.

You do realize the US spends more per student than almost any other country on earth INCLUDING. We are number 3 of fucking 200.

Clearly money is not the issue here.
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>>767692261
David Duke was. Is that enough?
https://www.inquisitr.com/2849318/david-duke-endorsed-president-obama-in-2008-no-one-asked-him-to-disavow/
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>>767678342
Sounds good to me man
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If the government can pass laws that effectively filter the voter pool, then the majority will use that power to filter the minority out, over and over again until all political power has been concentrated in the hands of a few ultra-wealthy individuals.

First, voters are divided into groups A and B. Group A is larger than group B, so group B doesn't get to vote anymore. Then, group A finds itself divided along some new line into sub-groups C and D. Sub-group D is larger than sub-group C, so sub-group C doesn't get to vote anymore. Sub-group D finds itself divided into groups E and F. Do you see where this is going?
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>>767678383
Hahaha fucking true
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>>767693890
We need STRICT comprehensive Assault Knife legislation immediately.
We need to force ANY buyer and USER to be licensed.
They must go through a 34 hour course to make sure they will never become violent with said Assault Knife.
In that 34 hour training process, the instructors will assess them and make sure they have no violent bones in their body until the end of their lives.
Then and only then will ANY American be allowed to wield an Assault Knife.
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>>767691939
Healthcare was cheaper, better, and quicker before Obamacare. All the other "free" healthcare countries are floundering. Doctors are no different than plumbers or mechanics, when you find a good one, you stick with him, and you keep giving him money.

Prisons... that's more complex and has been a mixed bag so far.
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>>767694011
So because knives kill people, that means there shouldn't be rules when purchasing guns? Cool. Got it.
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>>767694011
We need STRICT comprehensive Black Hand legislation immediately.
We need to force ANY buyer and USER to be licensed.
They must go through a 34 hour course to make sure they will never become violent with said Black Hands.
In that 34 hour training process, the instructors will assess them and make sure they have no violent bones in their body until the end of their lives.
Then and only then will ANY American be allowed to wield Black Hands.
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>>767694138
>there shouldn't be rules when purchasing guns?
There already are, see...
>>767693451
You want the whole cake.
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>>767694138
We need STRICT comprehensive Assault Hammer legislation immediately.
We need to force ANY buyer and USER to be licensed.
They must go through a 34 hour course to make sure they will never become violent with said Assault Hammer.
In that 34 hour training process, the instructors will assess them and make sure they have no violent bones in their body until the end of their lives.
Then and only then will ANY American be allowed to wield an Assault Hammer.
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>>767680660
Kys
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>>767692444
>Extended background checks
durr it already exists
>Ban on bump stocks
durr it's not even a thing
>Ban on military grade weapons for the public
durr it doesn't exist
>Mental health checks
durr it already happens
>Convicted violent criminal
durr you can't buy a gun

Keep going to Berkeley.
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>>767681275
You are so fucking retarded, you know that right?
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