>>767675024 It's actually Israel because Israel controls the land. It's like asking why parts of the United States aren't called Native American tribal names. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter: Israel has it.
>>767675024 Seems pretty legal to me seeing as every map I ever saw says it's called Israel. You fucking sand niggers should have fought the nazis harder and used that martyrdom you faggots love so much to work in your favor for once in your goddamn history. Instead, you just let them come in and start pulling oil out of the ground to fuel the Reich a full 3 years longer than it should have. That's the thing with you bozos, you fold whenever a more superior force comes in to take what's yours, then complain that it wasn't legal. The world was built on conquest you dumb fuckin nigger. It's what makes this planet spin. The weak are meat, and the strong do eat. The jews were smarter than you and therefore deserve the land you squatted and shat on for centuries. Get fucked and neck yourself habib.
>>767675181 >>767675318 Article 18 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties of 1969 >>767675299 >Native Americans You mean the Clovis? The early people sold their land and stole land from their own people, the usa mearly took the land from them in exchange for other goods/services. >Whether you like it or not doesn't matter International law and state law would state otherwise, and has stated legally for almost a centurary. Israel is illegally taking over the land
>>767675364 Because they are two separate nations. Nations are not based on land but rather on law. Italy is not called Italy and not "The Roman Republic". Differant legal states arise in and although they may occupy land once held by another nation they are s distinct separate nation.
The land is actually called Judea not Palestine. Palestine refers to a nation within Judea, so does Israel
>>767675611 >Article 18 Nope >The early people sold their land and stole land from their own people Protip: the 'Palestinians' also stole land from the previous inhabitants. >the usa mearly took the land from them in exchange for other goods/services. Not always. >International law and state law would state otherwise Clearly not considering the international community has done nothing about it. >Israel is illegally taking over the land Nope.
>>767675871 a state is obliged to refrain from acts which would defeat the object and purposes of a treaty when it has undertaken an act expressing its consent thereto." also provides that a State "may not invoke the provisions of its internal law as justification for its failure to perform a treaty" (Art. 27).
>>767675181 Bruh Jews say that they should have the land because the bible said so. That is literally why they have the land cause some fucking 4000 year old book they found somewhere says they should Fuck everyone else living in Palestine lets give it to the bookfuckers
Lets apply teh Christian Bible to the international world We should own all of the middle east It should be Christian American Zoned
>>767675181 Hmm, well let's see, Jewish population of Palestine in 1947 is 630k, Muslim population of Palestine in 1947 is 1.18Million, yes I can totally see how this demography would lend itself to a 'legal' and 'democratic' Jewish supremacist state being established. Moron. An external force (the U.S-controlled U.N.) telling a minority that they can establish an apartheid state which discriminates against the native majority is not moral, legal nor democratic, but by all means dazzle me with your legal musings.
>>767675299 Guess you feel the same about Russia and Crimea then, right ? We should really stop with all this sanctions nonsense against Russia and just accept that they can grab whatever land they want just like the Israelis right ?? Or should they both not be sanctioned to pressure them to adhere to international law?
>Palestinians renting a house. >Jews approach landlord who OWNS THE HOUSE >Hey, want to sell your house? >Sure Jewnon, I'll sell >Jew buys house >Renters have to leave the house THEY WERE RENTING >Renters screech "our" house was stolen!
>>767675506 Indeed it wasn't named 'palestine', as with all other place names the first letter is capitalized => the correct name is Palestine. That's not too difficult for you to understand is it you poor half-wit ? For reference, in Hebrew it is spelled Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י) Pālēśtīnā It has been known as Palestine since antiquity (before the Roman era) right up to the British Mandate in PALESTINE before a bunch of predominantly foreign Jewish terrorists set up their Jewish-supremacist régime.
>>767676278 >paper What law they broke ? Its really not that hard: the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 prohibits countries from moving population into territories occupied in a war. I mean with all your 'paper writing' how can you really be this ignorant ? Every, and I mean EVERY state in the world INCLUDING the USA regards the Isreali occupation and settlement of the West-bank illegal, how can you not know this ?
>>767676741 Natives are the people on the ground when a bunch of armed foreigners arrive to set up a racist state, simple really. And for something to really blow your tiny ignorant mind: contrary to the Muslim vs. Jewish narrative peddled by Zionist apologists many of the modern-day Muslim Palestinians are in fact of Jewish descent, like all countries that get overrun by a foreign religion, over time the native populations just adopt the new religion, hence the British or Irish for example don't mourn the genocide of the pagan populations of their islands because it never actually happened, they simply converted to Christians. So trying to say well its okay for the foreign Jews in the 1940's to ethnically cleanse the Muslims because the ancestors of those Muslims may have ethnically cleansed Jews is retarded, those Muslims or former Jews ARE NOT responsible for the actions of their ancestors, current Israelis who participated in the ethnic cleansing in the 1940's ARE RESPONSIBLE for their crimes. Its really not that complicated, timescales ARE RELEVANT.
>>767677296 Em, what's hypocritical about the law exactly it applies to all states, grabbing land through violence is not acceptable in a civilized society how is this difficult for you to understand, and there'e no special 'But my magic sky-friend promised it to my ancestors' exemption.
>>767677475 Yes, cos them 1.18 million people were just sitting around not knowing who owned anything, just like those filthy native Americans and Aboriginal Australians, I mean if they don't have title deeds which conform to the legal system of some foreign country like the US or Britain then clearly they can't OWN anything and any 'civilized' foreigner is free to come in and grab whatever he wants. How can you be this racist and or stupid ?
>>767677475 Em, I though Israel was claiming to be a democracy ?? Or is this like a pre-US-civil way 'democracy' where only land-owners get a vote ?? You really can't be this stupid or deluded that you are convinced that Israel is anything other than a racist/ apartheid state create by a bunch of foreign terrorists on an ethnic cleansing spree.
>>767675772 England have Israel Israel and, ironically, the French have Americans America. Once the french state of Louisiana toppled and the Americans ran in they were inhabiting a tiny strip on the eastern board.
>>767677912 Nice propaganda, however it still doesn't change the fact that the population of Palestine in 1947 was 1.18Million Mulsims to 630k Jews. This could not possibly morph into a 'democratic' Jewish state, nor did it. The Jewish 'state' was create by ethnic cleansing performed by predominantly foreign Jewish terrorists. And it doesn't matter how often you repeat your lies the demographic facts of the population in 1947 will still be recorded in the history books.
>>767679759 I really am addressing a full-on retard amn't I ? You really are so stupid that you don't understand sarcasm as a rhetorical device ? . Let me spell it out for you moron, I don't consider Native Americans to be filthy but the point I am making VIA SARCASM is that if you are seriously going to speak in favour of Zionism then you must also view all other victims of colonialism as savages, get it now ? Jesus is like trying to have a debate with a chimpanzee.
>>767680135 Eh no, history books and encyclopedias do. My ass has nothing to do with it. Jesus is that the best you Zionist apologists can do, eh let's argue that the population of various countries in the Middle East were completely unknown as recently as 60 years ago, that's a totally plausible argument. Try harder dimwit.
>>767680221 A couple of points. My previous comment was my first in this thread. Just thought I’d wind you up. Also your attempt at being cleverly sarcastic is not necessarily true. Comparing the colonisation of America and the following treatment of the native Americans isn’t the same as the situation regarding Israel.
>>767680357 Technically its not true, but the problem is that Israel is busy trying to ethnically cleanse the illegally occupied West Bank to manufacture a 'democracy' like they did in the rest of Israel. To do this they must systematically destroy all Palestinian businesses and commerce, this leaves the Palestinian populations increasingly impoverished as time goes by and so even if they could get visas to go abroad the majority would not be able to afford to so they are trapped in poverty as second-class citizens in their own country while year-after-year more and more foreign Jews are illegally moved in to the territory and given free land and housing. Eventually the illegal immigrant Jews will outnumber the native Palestinians and ONLY then will Israel hold elections and declare that these illegally occupied territories are 'democratically' part of Israel
The jews and muslims both are treacherous, backstabbing, deceitful swine. The only interactions with the middle east the outside world should partake in, are brutal, massively excessive retaliations any time their internal violence even hints at exploding outwards.
>>767680962 Yeh, its just not because..... Would you care to try to articulate an actual argument to support you view, or do you just spout random bullshit because that's all an Israeli apologist is capable of. Same deal in both cases, bunch of violent foreigners coming to steal shit because they can.
>>767676414 Can't tell how stupid is that. Literally none of the claims make any sense. For example what the hell "public land" means? And even if it meant something relevant, why does it say that "at least 50% was public land" if "the green area was not"palestinian land""?
>>767681398 Anyone can edit it but inaccurate edits will be reverted very quickly especially on contentious topics but if you want references for further reading the table in the Wikipedia article is based on the work of Sergio Della Pergola (born Trieste, Italy, September 7, 1942) is an Italian-born Israeli demographer and statistician. He is a professor and demographic expert, specifically in demography and statistics related to the Jewish population.
>>767681667 The table in the Wikipedia article is from the work of Sergio Della Pergola (born Trieste, Italy, September 7, 1942) is an Italian-born Israeli demographer and statistician. He is a professor and demographic expert, specifically in demography and statistics related to the Jewish population.
Does that help you now to believe facts that you clearly just dont want to believe ? Face it, if you are Jewish or American and you support Israel you are at best an ignorant halfwit, if that make you feel bad well boo-hoo cry me a river.
>>767681346 Kek. If you believe that they are the same then you obviously don’t know enough about the subject. So I think the one “spouting pointless bullshit” is you. >> Israeli Apologist I don’t like either of them actually.
>>767681831 >Why should we care? Cos a couple of million Jews were slaughtered by German fascists in the 1940s and now their relatives world wide have to suffer the further insult of having a bunch of Zionist terrorists claiming to represent Judaism. I mean have the Jews not suffered enough already that they have to be lumped in with the scum that refer to themselves as 'Israelis'
>>767682223 the joos are such shit that when asked to take in europe's jooish population after the war every country in the world said no (Canada even said "No Joos is too many").
so since they owned the banks and therefore the US and Britain we used some bullshit historical precedent to shove them back into the fertile crescent so they'd stop bugging us about us needing to do something for them until five minutes later when they needed something else.
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