exercise and so much fap and fuck prostitutes
Keep a weekly journal, walk an hour a day.
I also quit drinking but I'm not sure if that made an actual difference to how I felt.
Sounds faggy but now I have emotional control and don't just sit around all day.
Juggling two minimum-wage jobs just to keep my head above water means I have more important things to worry about than how unfufilling a life of posting about how sad I am on 4chan is
I don't. I just try to occupy myself. I write, I draw/sketch, smoke cigars, drink good bourbon--when it's nice outside. Exercise, cleaning up, hygiene--anything that improves yourself or your living conditions, can often help make one feel better.
I can't commit to a steady journal but I have written before and it's great. A couple of months back I bought Jordan Peterson's Self Authoring program and I'm slowly trying to get through it.
I try to socialize and find people that are either in a worse spot or better spot than me. I realize I could be in the worst spot, feel better. Then I get motivated when I realize I can be like the better spot. Something happens along the way and I have to do it again.
Cleaning up your room / living space is a great way to obtain a sense of accomplishment and feel good after doing virtually nothing all day. Whenever I start to feel sad or like a piece of shit I just start cleaning. You won't get frustrated due to complexity of the task, and you won't feel like you accomplished nothing at the end of it.
Whenever you feel down about your life just start cleaning. It's a distraction that gives you a sense of accomplishment at the end of it all.
Anxiety can be mitigated by just committing to doing preparation beforehand. Nervous about a test, make a plan to redo notes for 2 chapters a day 4 days in advance of the test. It takes commitment, but you'll feel better.
I hope this helps everyone!
I joined a boxing gym. I'll never be good enough to step in the ring, but pounding a 75lb heavy bag for 45minutes is a solid way get over depression without resorting to stupid shit.
I've been diagnosed* with generalized anxiety disorder and major depressive disorder for six years now. I've tried various SSRI's, years of severe alcohol abuse, mountains of just about every non-prescribed drug from LSD to heroin, and welbutrin and the only thing that actually helped was maintaining a healthy diet and daily exercise at the gym. Which of course was the last thing I tried kek. And not one of the 5-6 doctors I went to over the years ever even mentioned diet and exercise. Doctors (besides surgeons) are nothing but shills who exist to sell scripts, period.
A simple walk outside for 20 minutes four times a week can improve your mood/health. If you can't do that, do only ten minutes two times a week and your body will become stronger and you will be able to walk more. People think that working out means killing yourself for hours lifting heavy weights or running ten miles a day but it's not.
I'm in the process of finding a therapist at the moment. That's one thing I've always been told to do but never seem to get around to. If your wrist is broken it's common sense to go to an ER and have them set it; when you have issues with depression/ anxiety, at least for me, I always feel too silly or foolish to book an appointment and bill insurance and such just because of a an issue as vague and convoluted as not being happy.
With xanax and kratom to get through the withdrawals. Kept using the kratom and ended up addicted to it instead for a couple years. Like seriously fuck anyone who tells you that stuff isn't addictive, the withdrawals suck. But I managed to very slowly wean myself off of it eventually.
I think/hope not too much, as I learned acting and emotional manipulation quite good from an young age, but on the other hand I'm quite a general disappointment to me and everyone I'm honest to
Just the heavy bag. Once in a while I do some time on a speed bag, just to build overall stamina. But for the most part I just spend 45min to an hour every other day the gym hitting the heavy bag.
I know what you mean. Even though I've been in therapy for a few months now, I still find it pretty embarassing. I think it is worth it though if you can find a good therapist.
>I took therapy for a few months and was diagnosed with Clinical depression. I still have days where I wake up and cant move odd the couch, but ive learned to watch for patterns in my depression.
For example: if I go our and socialize too much, its almost a garuntee im going to crash sometime soon.
Another thing ive learned to do is to remove as many toxic people as possible from my life. I only talk to about 7 people on a regular basis now.
Yoga/marijuana helps with fatigue and body pain
you dont look at her while you listen you just let the sounds take over your sensory input and relax
its not for everyone it took me a while to be able to get benefits from ASMR but now i use the sounds everyday to control my anxiety, im so much more in control now
this link from /fit/ is what got me started. There's a lot to digest but as a total n00b (only ever set foot in a gym maybe twice and had no idea what to do) I started using the 5x5 weight lifting routine (5 sets of 5 compound lifts) on Monday, Weds, and Friday, plus 30 mins of treadmill/ elliptical cardio Tues, Thurs, and Sat. Feels good. I'm still a fat fuck but all that plus eating right I lost 7 pounds in 2 weeks so far. The important thing is it gives you so much more energy and lifts your mood, especially lifting.
For me it's loneliness that makes me go out and drink. I think I need to do more work on my own before solving this issue. Going out isn't always a good thing even if you think it is.
keep working hard, anon
i'm proud of your progress - exercising is what we need more of
That's consistent with what people tell me, I'm going to give it a shot. And to be clear, what I meant is that it *feels* silly or embarrassing but it objectively is neither of those things. If anything it's just smart. Think of where Nikolas Cruz or the Supreme Gentleman might be now if they had just swallowed their pride and talked to somebody lol
Diet is an interesting one. I can usually tell a major difference in my mood during weeks that my diet is shit. Depression can really snow ball if you let it. If you get too depressed one day your anti depression routine can go out the window and its a bitch to get back on track
Used to be just alcohol/weed
Now I try to get out of the house, get sun, exercise, talk to a human, get a hug from gf, make/do something productive (i do a lot of drawing/collage), go to work at your job (even when it isn't fun, it's good to have a purpose), read a book, play video games (not always the same one)
oh and don't forget to eat. get something with some substance. be something with some substance.
>ps- i still get super depressed and anxious all the fucking time it never stops it's fine just roll with it.
I just talk about it with a nonchalant attitude.
Some people take offense or show fear, thinking I'm a big bag of crazy, and then I can write them out of my life and replace them with people who understand/are sympathetic to my plight. It's a hurtle to get that comfortable with whatever is fucked in your head to talk about it publicly, but it's really cathartic once you get used to it.
Meds didn't really work for me, and self-medication just put me back on actual meds, but I've been 3 years without any medication or hospitalizations, and I'm finally starting to feel happy.
tl;dr Talk about your shit, bra.
Weed can sap some people's motivation from them, making them feel useless. There's nothing inherintly wrong with smoking weed, but if you're using it as a crutch or if you're neglecting your responsibilities, quitting for a while can really help you clear your head and figure out what's actually important to you.
Yes. I feel like socializing when drunk doesn't necessarily build any skills either. I'd rather have a short but sweet exchange sober, than a big drunken chat that I won't remember the next day.
That's something I found interesting about weed. Some people get lazy and lethargic, but for me it usually helps me get things accomplished. Well most of the time. Cant say I dont like my days that I smoke lay on the couch and play wow all day.
Nice double dubs
A lot of what you get out of therapy can be found in books, movies or even music. The difference is that therapy is interactive. The work you do in therapy is centered around you and your specific problem. It's almost like you're paying for a customized set of philosophical pillars, building a foundation of useful thoughts and ideas to help you deal with all the bullshit that you'll encounter in life.
I think my biggest problem is anxiety, specifically when it comes to people. I feel like anxiety has been the cause of my depression over time and I'm starting to learn how to attack it.
The perspective I've tried to adopt is to view fitness (i.e. diet and exercise) as a lifelong routine rather than going "on a diet" or exercising super hard for X amount of time to achieve a specific weight or shape. I still weigh myself regularly because that's just good data to keep an eye on but it's more of a lifestyle change for the sake of feeling better and happier. The numbers are more or less arbitrary.
I'm literally the same(again) the only different is I had depression before anxiety, but now I have bad anxiety the last four years or so. Its also caused by people, how are you attacking it?
helpful tips for people struggling with anxiety:
i have been diagnosed acute anxiety disorder for over ten years. here is what helped me, take it or leave it:
>sleep. regular, consistent, sleep. i go to bed when i am tired and close my eyes and clear my head. you need regular, consistent sleep.
>exercise. work out, walk, do jumping jacks. whatever it is, you need to burn that excess nervous energy and getting healthy and looking good will help you feel more confident.
>Eating well. don't eat crap you know is bad for you. STOP DRINKING COFFEE. CUT CAFFEINE OUT OF YOUR LIFE. water is your best friend. diet soda, caffeine free if you need sugar but pls try to cut it down.
>CBT. cognitive behavioural therapy or exposure therapy. you need to condition yourself to being mindful of your feelings and staying in control of your mind and body in stressful situations. it works. do it on your own or go to a therapist or group therapy session. CBT works you need to try it.
>also find time to meditate or relax. meditation has helped me stay centered when anxiety symptoms feel overwhelming. learning to breathe is a major step in being in control.
That is the right way to look at it for sure. However it is useful to set several goals. I'll give you an example. Last summer I started running 3 times a week. My first big goal was to stick to it for at least a month ( after a month I find that the routine becomes set and it quickly becomes enjoyable after it ) . That wasn't the only goal though. I also started looking at the distance I managed to run in 30 minutes ( ie performance ). Another field was bodyweight ( I was looking to trim down ). I think it can be incredibly useful to set superficial goals as well as deep ones.
This anon has it figured out. To those of us who stress out like rabbits, get a routine down and follow-through. Fill your life with as much productivity as you can and learn to enjoy the fuckin ride.
I've started to focus a lot more on the outside. Here's a good example. I go to the gym on a regular basis and I was in need of some new shorts. There's a mall pretty close to my home but the thought of going there was really daunting. One day I said fuck it and decided to go anyway. As I was getting closer to it and the crowds were getting bigger I started to feel really bad anxiety. Instead of trying to relax or fight it I embraced it. What really mattered was that I was doing it. I was in the mall looking for shorts. Despite how shitty it felt I didn't faint, or chicken out. Nietche's got a really good quote that will prove my point: "He who has a why to live can bear almost any how". You have to accept that you will suffer and go for it anyway. Practice makes perfect even if it doesn't quite feel like it at first.
Surfing the internet, listening to music/making music,
sometimes alcohol, rarely other humans (because i have basically zero friends).
This. I am certain that benzos and probably SSRI's (although they are still relatively new so long-term studies aren't yet available) can be effective in treating anxiety and depression in certain cases. But I am also convinced that they are grossly over-prescribed and that in probably 90% of cases implementing good diet and exercise and seeing a therapist can produce vastly better results and without the side effects/ cessation woes of meds
I have yet to try therapy but I am inclined to think that as people we have relied on spiritual advisers in the form of shamans and elders for thousands of years for guidance and help with our problems. Maybe professional therapists fill that role. I'm not religious at all, but I think that maybe as more people than ever before in history are atheist or agnostic (at least openly) we suffer from not having the benefit of seeking advice from pastors/ priests/ imams/ rabis/ pujaris etc. So a professional therapists makes sense to fill that role I guess.
No doubt. Yea, I mean working out is pretty useless if you don't monitor progress, set goals, etc. I just meant that all the minutia isn't the end goal. For me at least that used to fuck up all my attempts at getting in better shape. I would focus on reaching some goal and either get bored or reach it and then feel like I was done
good for you, anon, i'm proud! and thank you for your insight on that matter. it means a lot what you wrote and i can relate well. i am currently working on my general anxiety, too and fighting your own fears is really tough, but the reward after that is very satisfying. just breaking out of this cycle of fear is hard. finding this "why" and "how" is essential. keep embracing it, and accept what you are, but do not let it stand in your way.
u depression faggots make me sick, get a fucking life u fuckign nobody frail shit. get soem fresh air b4 shrooms growin on u get an y bigger n for once get some fuckin vitamin d from the sun life wont get any better by comin on 4chan n feeling sorry for urself u fucking peasant
I exercise some 6 days a week, practice autogenic and zen meditation, but its still very bad. I've had a rough life, /b/.
Just for venting, imma lay it down quick don't need no reply. On the one hand, I've lost over 150 pounds in 6 years, managed to migrate from my disintegrating country, managed to get a degree as an environmental technician, managed to get an Erasmus program scholarship that's got me up to England for my internship, just got offered and accepted a job at the company which means I'm getting out of my folks place, and managed to quit cigarrettes through vaping, and this week for the first time in my life I managed to jog for 40+ minutes nonstop.
On the other hand, I left the only woman I ever loved and loved me back in my country. I quit medical school after three years and then journalism because my father got diagnosed with lung cancer, which forced us to migrate so he could get treatment. After 40 chemos', cancer still ain't gone, docs are stumped. I've lost most of my good friends to life, my very best friend to a speeding 16 wheeler. I've been bullied to hell and back for being an autismo edgelord 300lbs fatass. I'm socially anxious and terrified of speaking to women for the most part because of that. For all my dieting and weightloss and dermolipectomy, I still look weird when I take my shirt off. I've lost count of the amount of guns I've had aimed at my face, though I've been robbed at gunpoint only 6 times (the other times it was cops). This has left me almost incapable of leaving the house unless its for work or exercise. I've had a 14 year old kid die in my hands with burns over 90% of his body. I've had to kill two men in self defence, one of which's life I'd saved not a month earlier. These two incidents, and the death of my best friend, ocurred shortly in succession, which is what led to me breaking down and leaving medical school. And to top it all off, I feel deeply alone.
So fucking alone.
this. its all in your fucking head and ppl still whine about it everday. just give a shit bout everyone and then get along with urself. ppl r so fucking weak these days it makes me fucking want to kms
> ppl r so fucking weak these days it makes me fucking want to kms
You call others weak, but the opinions and personalities of randomers you never met is enough go make you want to kill yourself... Hmm
r u retarded. its just an expression id never kms cuz of anyone lmao its just fucking sad to watch those weak ass shits crying bout their life every single fucking day. and i wasnt evne talking about randoms u must be stupid as shit.
>and i wasnt evne talking about randoms u must be stupid as shit.
Calls people stupid - can't spell or use grammar properly. Also fails to grasp the reality of mental illness, despite it becoming an increasing epidemic and leading to one million deaths annually.
I can spell. Sorry for the fact that english isnt my native language bruh.
mental illness is becoming a huge problem all over the world. people just do not realize its their own mistake. they cry every single day about their mistakes and their shitty life but the solution to it is simple, they just gotta find out. ive been there myself and u sir are a fucking retard, i can tell that but whatever. keep living alone and cry along - in the end it wont help u.
If you were there yourself then you should have a bit more compassion for people. Do you not remember what it was like when you were at your worst? How is asking for help or advice from people crying or whinging? We've all got our own shit going on. I don't live alone btw, and I'm actually in a good place right now. But unlike you, I came here to see if I could help people instead of kick them when they're already down.
It used to be substance abuse, but my girlfriend hates when I'm drunk and I do too. Been sober coming up to a year now and even though I still have my problems, I'm not making them 10x worse by being drunk every night.
There was a guy that had a book wrote about him long ago. This man was very accepting of everybody. It was also claimed that he could heal the sick. He sounded very compassionate. This man must have really loved himself if he was capable of loving everything around him. This man was Jesus.
I know my level of acceptance of other ppl directly correlates with how much i like myself. How can we be like Jesus and love ourselves completely and unconditionally?
i do remember but i know also know its no need for that. everything u make up in your mind is bullshit u just gotta jump past that. do not care about everyone else and get along with yourself, it's as easy as that. but there is a different solutuion for everyone i know what. u gotta find ur way to fix the problem thats how it is, atleast that's what i truly believe.
i wasnt talking about people in the thread aswell. i just got some whiny ass friends crying about their life and then putting it on me they wanna kill themself. thats so fucking stupid i wasnt talking about u or anyone in this thread.
im happy u managed ur life just as i did but everytime i tell people that i know how i managed it they keep crying and putting their mistakes on me - that's what i was talking about. good we cleared this up.
I started learning guitar and singing regularly last June after a psychotic episode. It did help a lot, I got absolutely obsessed with it and now I am pretty good, I think I am a decent songwriter too, but sometimes it’s just another source for depression and anxiety. I regularly share my songs online but even getting people to listen to them is a fucking nightmare. Need to do more open mics.
Still, on a good night when I play guitar for three or four hours that feels good and when I learn a new song or even better, write one, that is a small achievement.
No worries, we got off on the wrong foot. I get what you mean about people putting shit onto you constantly, I know people who do that too. And they don't even listen to advice, just say the same shit constantly and whine without even trying to change anything in their lives. People like that are annoying as shit. Peace bro, enjoy your drink.
thanks dude, enjoy ur day too.
its just rediculous to see people asking for ur advice and then crying about what u tell them. i wont ever give those people any adivde or truth again - they gotta manage their life themselfes now.
see u lad, have a good one
No. Not yet. I do know that the more i know about me, the more i know about life. The biggest thing was getting in touch with my emotions and then being able to read others emotions. Through their words and through their eyes. I have yet to meet one person that truly likes him/herself
Not really sure what you are getting at here. Through songwriting I examine things and also have a creative and semi-confessional outlet. Not thinking is not something anyone could accuse me of, I am a very introspective person.
If you’re assuming I am a NEET wasting my time on some half-arsed creative project then I guess that would be a fair assumption based on this site’s demographic, but I have a good job and I am a full-time student too so it’s not like I could practicably be doing anything more productive. In terms of relationships, my five year relationship with my histrionic and insufferable ex was more than enough for one lifetime, I would be quite happy to die single.
I often feel like I don't know myself. I don't know why I feel certain ways, what triggers it, or why I think the things I do. I know myself on the surface level, but I feel I don't truly know myself at all. I can't find a way of sorting that one
I need to go to the gym I am so fat but I can't afford a gym memership I know if I went to the gym and lost 50 pounds I would be perfect weight and My confidence would increase
Run! Run for your life! No membership needed, and you'll also be able to fit into that new pair of dungarees your mommy bought you last summer - now wouldn't that be a treat??
I just participated in a thread asking anons about the effectiveness of their antidepressives. Bc I'm paranoid as fuck about them but definitely in a position where they are heavily forced on me.
Not a single anon (despite my own pushing) declared any negativity whatsoever. Along with a, what seems to be, realistic view of the seemingly temporary downsides.
I am curious for your story. Do the meds (antidepressants) fuck with you over a longer time or something?
I did the same as you. Depressed teens. Got my shot together after a few years. Decade of goodness living life. Had a bad couple years outta no where. Shot hit hard and fast. Got real dark again for a year or so. Im only just working myself out of it same as before. Its tough though and the second time round Im older and fuck me it aint as easy this tine
Go outside, feel the air in your lungs. Work out, get strong, stretch. Eat healthy. Work hard.
Live anon. Stop expecting someone else to make your life wonderful. Materialistic possessions won't make you happy.
Go outside and live your life.
Spend at the bare minimum at least 30 mins per day outside. Have a regular sleep cycle, this includes weekends. Eat well and exercise with something fun - if you hate running or pumping weights you'll never do it, but if you love climbing or cycling you'll find the time to do it. Speak to at least one other human being in person every day, don't small talk actually be open if you feel like shit. As much as it sucks, work hard to earn money - then you can have less worries about shit like bills.
3 methods, all valid but have pros and cons
1) Fasting method. Don't eat 16 hours or more before the time you want to wake up. Continue as normal and do your best to force yourself asleep, even lying there eyes open is better than getting up. Then at the time you want to wake up, get up, shower and stuff then eat. Stay awake all day and repeat as necessary. Prone to fail if you don't have a regularish meal cycle.
2) Go camping for 3 days. The natural light/dark cycle will reset your body clock. Works almost perfectly if you can keep it going, just take 3 days is all.
3) Slow progress. Wake up 1 hour earlier every other day till you achieve perfect cycle. Takes a long time and is prone to fail if you're not dedicated enough.
The best method is to have a daily routine of some kind, something which you MUST wake up everyday for. Typically, once you're up you're up for good unless you slip up and nap. On that note, if you must nap do so for no longer than an hour. Ideally, 30 mins should do if you're really deprived.
Cured my own with meditation and new age shit. Was suicidal..now just fantasize about it for the way it feels..don't actually want to die anymore. I like thinking about throwing my head under a moving car and picture myself hanging from a tree, shit like that. But don't really feel sad and down anymore. Loving life in a daily basis.
Any questions I'll do my best to answer.