>he believes that the earth is not flat
What are you, retarded? Also, the moon landing is fake. or do you honestly believe that something that looks like it was put together with cardboard, aluminium foil and duct tape really brought us to there?
NASA is lying to you, people! Wake up!
They've pulled us away from the path of God. Illuminati wants this so we become godless.
Technically speaking, it's easier to build spacecraft than submarines. No drag, even pressure forever once you're out of atmosphere. Getting it into space is the hard part, and the lander only has to ride for that bit. In the day, the moon landings were challenging because of period technology. Today, the real problem with getting to the moon is finding the funding. Building the massive first stage booster is still expensive as fuck because it's mostly material costs.
Pro tip: The foil is to reflect the harsh solar radiation in space so the capsule doesn't turn into a pressure cooker. And to keep the terrible dust on the moon out of the electronics.
>path of god
I defy you to find a bigger conspiracy than Christianity.
1.these niggers sit on a gold throne, and tell you to not be greedy
2.they scare you to think if you don't do as they please you will go to a bad place
3.they make sure you don't question them, cuz they ARE god
4.they allow men to rape,kill and slave the American continent
5.they brainwash the natives to think that the christian god who rape them is right one and the one they were born with is "voodoo"
6.hundreds of years later, they OPENLY control media, and politics
(you can't be elected if you don't have jesus in your heart)
7.anybody who rebels against them like the illuminati did is evil
8.finally when science opens the doors to logic, some FAGGOT whose ancestors were rapped and brainwashed makes a thread on b to say that's not what the church wants
9.the church logic falls apart when you realize that if god is everything and makes everything, than Satan and god are the same entity.
>TLDR: YOU ARE THE BLIND ONE, WAKE UP SHEEPLE
I wanna believe you OP. But that would mean that every scientist that's ever studied space would be lying to us wouldn't it? I could believe some would lie, but all scientists that have ever studied space? From every country & agency? I just can't buy into that
>Technically speaking, it's easier to build spacecraft than submarines.
You must not have any idea what fresh hell our satellites experience. Constant radiation, solar wind, solar storms, debris, navigation, communication, constantly readjusting orbits. Yes actually getting into space is THE CHALLENGE when it comes to space travel, but that is certainly not the end of a spacecrafts problems.
Ive read up man. Im sure there are some big worldwide conspiracies happening. I just don't think there's enough evidence to convince me every scientist is a liar. Yet. I mean I've no doubt they can be ignorant & just mouthpieces for whichever organisation employs them. I'm just not convinced on this one yet. Maybe that'll change. I hope you flat-earthers keep on truckin' tho & if you find that piece of irrefutable world-changing evidence you need I'll be there amongst the crowds with the ticker-tape! I guess what we all need, especially the super-skeptics out there, is a photo of the earth as it truly looks from space. Get that & no one can fuck with you.
Why do we ever see any stars in the nasa pics ?
>Im a complete fucking idiot with an even dumber idea
>Hey look, this other guy on the internet who is just as retarded has the same idea
>I now feel validated, we must be onto something
Found the jew, or at least it's shill. Wtvr, as long as you're blaming Christianity, they're happy.
This was possible with a satellite looking at the same point in space with its aperture open for months. having such a long exposure time means they can see things much dimmer objects than you could see otherwise.
Anyone with any amount of logical thought knows the flat earth meme is just another forced troll that only a few idiots actually believe.
This dumb shit is depressing. Here we live in the most advanced culture in human history and we expect our children to be the future, and we let them think the earth is flat. These are the future retards that will steer the culture. They already have been for 20 years. That's why everything is shit. It's our own fault
Look up the Japanese satellite Hitomi and see what happened to that. They spent billions on that all to have it fuck up shortly after reaching parking orbit. And the Chinese satellite that recently fell.
We're constantly doing damage control with our spacecraft. Space isn't a hard vacuum, it's full of objects and particles and debris fields, etc. If it seems easy, it's only because the people that do these things are really good at their jobs.
Obviously fleets of ships greater than any single fleet of ships ever known, has been patrolling the rim(be that an ice wall or actual edge) with an unaccounted for massive crew of sailors, who never let the secret get out, since the dawn of recorded history.
The truth is...... There are way more Jews then you think.
The Jews are middle management. They control the Freemasons, the Illuminati, and the corporations (which everyone already knows). Those lower organizations control the governments of the world, the CIA, KGB, PLO, MRA, etc. But the Jews are tight, tribal, family even. They may be slimy, vicious, and evil but their die hard loyalty is to be admired!
As most people also know, the Holocaust was a fabrication. But those six million Jews went somewhere!
As the ice fleet crews age out, they must be renewed with new blood.
Six million strong, the Jew crew is now. They sail their ancient ships using (stolen) Atlantean technology to protect the border of the world from those who might discover its truth.
But who controls the Jews? The reptilians of course. You HAVE to know that already.
when a much brighter object appear in front of the light of the previous starts, they seem to be black.
just because YOU don't understand doesn't mean that everybody is wrong.
wait wait wait, I was for sure the flat Earth thing was like the latest biggest troll..
Some people ACTUALLY believe this shit?
How fucking stupid can some humans get?
>He believes duct tape and gold foil can withstand the harsh temperature changes flying through the atmosphere has, where it tries to resist thousands of degrees to sudden minus degrees
There is a thing called a super reflector or retroreflector on the moon. You can go to an obsevetory and aim a laser at it and see it reflect back to Earth. This is irrefutable proof we've been to the moon at least once
Check out these fucking scientists wow!
genuine curiositiy: don't you think that, in an era when space was a strong culture icon, design influence and a collective american dream, stanley kubrick and nasa wouldn't be tempted to build a more beautiful and stylized mockup for the fakery?
i mean, instead of presenting an awful but extremely functional and practical artifact made of currently investigated and prooved materials and techniques?
By density of objects wanting to fall in a downward fashion to less dense surroundings. Convince me helium balloons aren't anti gravity machines. Water is an anti gravity substance as well?
The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.
There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.
Put a balloon in a vacuum and see what happens. Then think of someone in a space suit in said vacuum and tell me it's possible. Since you can do these experiments at home yourself, of course...
No because I learned in 5th grade but forgot as I never thought I'd ever need to use the information again after the test. Especially not to convince people that the earth isn't flat...
Also, ask ANY good teacher (preferably professor) about the physics you're suggesting and you'll likely get the exact same answer.
Really, 0 results? How can you have a Flat Earth thread without mentioning one of it's most influential researchers? This guy is a legend in the making
Do you think people who entertain flat earth just missed out on the whole k-12 public education system and then college for most, that you went through? You think there may be some reason so many people are entertaining it despite having mostly the same education levels amongst those of us who aren't the .9% astrophysicists with PhDs in the field? You say big ego, small brain. I say no ego so I can afford to put it on the line for unpopular theories and give them an honest look until no longer necessary. Despite knowing 95% of people will automatically assume I'm retarded.
you can use an largely rebuted argument as much as you want, but that only makes you look more stupid and gullible.
If the flatearthers don't care about him it probably means they're having more fun making their own theories than listening to convincing one (I'm hinting at the fact that it's likely flat earthers aren't a fan of listening to what they're being told.)
post the iss fakery webms plsssss
i love these threads
The exact same answer you didn't just give me or the one you said you forgot because you didn't think you'd need it ever again? Just want to make sure I let the professor know what I'm after...
Balloons arent anti gravity machines because the archimedes effect pushes them upwards stronger than gravity. In fluids strenght applied moves trough the fluid (thats how hydraulic presses work), so if an object is immersed in a fluid the weight of the fluid itself tries to compress it from all directions, but at the top it is a column of fluid less tall than at the bottom so at the bottom there is more force (like if you make holes in a water bottle at different heights it pushes water stronger towards the bottom), so if you take into account this difference you get a force pushing you upwards. If you are more dense than the liquid, your weight is more than the force so you fall down. But weight is only explained by gravity, because in this sense it causes the archimedes effect (which is caused by the fluid own weight). I tried to put it so that you can test most of the claims i made, these things themselves were discovered largely from experimental evidence
You overestimate how much traditional education I have. And no, I never said flat earthers missed out on their k-12 education or college. I don't equate traditional education anywhere near actual education. I just think flat earthers are wasting their time and energy on something so stupid people in the past who lost everything for the truth because of you people are turning in their grave. This argument had been over for a very long time.
I was accepted to an 'Ivy League' school for my science/math grades, left before one year, and later discovered the truth online, that the history we learn is but lies and omissions.
And before it had "been over" for a very long time, it had "been" for an even longer amount of time. I think you can agree the general populous is now more intelligent than ever before and if there are these many people questioning it perhaps there is something amiss in a globe model.
>People are unironically shilling for a bullshit theory
Dumbass, propose what you proposed to me to multiple people more qualified to answer it. Than some random guy on 4chan. You will get a consistent answer no matter the educator. How can a whole block of text fly over your head..?
>He is author of this....?
>balloon in a vacuum and see what happens. Then think of someone in a space suit in said vacuum and tell me it's possible.
are you really comparing a thin rubber balloon with a space suit? don't you think that there are materials and constructions specially designed and built to resist very high pressures or vacuum?
No need to be defensive brother, we're all friends in the Flat Earth Thread.
It doesn't matter what shape we live on, as long as we agree to stay open minded to new ideas.
“We can measure it, we can predict with it,” he continued, “but when you start asking, like, what it is? I don’t know.”
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson on gravity...
So yeah, can't wait to ask my 5th grade teacher or other public educator.
No I think the general populous has problems and I think that's the safe conclusion to come to. I agree with you that NASA is a lying sack of shit, and they're probably the reason you exist because of how many lies they put out.
You'd think a flat earther would be aware of how the current school system is, since school is where most people learned the earth is round. The current school system is more famous not for teaching things, but teaching students how to briefly remember for tests, and then forget. Yes, I speak about a round earth because I know it to be true. I'm not an expert, but I know there's real math behind it and I know that because I remembered it for a test. When I was NINE. There are whole physics fields you can study if you want to debate, in an educated, convincing way, the earth js flat.
You can't get anywhere with these people. They just mischaracterize and strawman you till you give in. It's like an sjw cult. My point was there's a logical train of thought to follow, a whole field of study, and you choose to come to 4chan to debate your ideas instead of taking your movement seriously as many flat earthers have done. And failed.
So you know it to be true because the true math behind it proving it was something you were required to learn when you were 9. And then you never re-searched (see how that word breaks down) into it to learn more? Maybe that's the big difference in flat earthers and globe right there. See I am aware of the other fields to be able to debate in an educated, convincing way, because I have been re-searching. But I can't have an educated debate with someone who forgot what they memorized briefly at age 9 of their world model. Most globe proponents can't tell you the first Fucking thing about the model. This has been refreshing thank you for the exchange. Best of luck in your world anon.
Take a break from replying to that guy and check out Eric Dubay if you want to see logical explanations for FE Theory.
that's a GC2 Gemini suit, not a real space suit.
"Several different versions of the space suit evolved over the course of the Gemini program. The earliest versions, knows as G1C and G2C, were used in spacecraft development and astronaut training. The first version of the suit to be used on an actual mission was the G3C suit."
at least get your "facts" right.
Then surely you would agree Elon Musk's concept for the future of space suits is unreasonable, yes?
It's a government organization. Of course they're cloaked in secrecy. But they've also made technologies like GPS avaliable for everyone. Do you expect them to disclose everything they do to the public? Maybe you should start with a concrete example rather than just saying "oh lots of stuff"
If I were the dude I was replying to, I would have attacked you for referring me to someone more qualified instead of making a productive flat earth argument themselves. But yea, I'll just ignore him after this and look into what you're saying.
You'll never convince anyone with the way you argue, troll or not. You need to work on it. Personal attacks and redundant arguements are incredibly counter productive. I hope one day you break out of your flat bubble and keep an open mind.
I don't believe in flat earth. Orbital mechanics wouldn't work like we expect them to if the earth was flat. We couldn't have geostationary orbits or any gps or communication sats if the earth was flat
That's all fine and dandy. I apologize for the confusion. I wasn't really asking you, though. You mentioned GPS, so I figured I'd throw that question in there for the flat earthers to ignore.... I mean answer.
Why are you attacking me over distrusting NASA? I didn't propose anything beside my distrust for them and a little bit of animosity. Jeez you guys just come to the internet looking to constantly 1up others. It's not healthy. Nor is what you're doing a start towards any sort of healthy discussion.
I'm not here to convince because you shouldn't be convinced after one exchange with someone. I'm here to hopefully have one seed take that you can't help but to have to water later. One idea that you can't shake not having an answer to that leads you on a path to go looking for answers. Then you'll water yourself. But when people use the we were taught in school (especially elementary school) that's not good enough argument for your side either. I don't buy the whole dome thing and I don't know many answers to flat model either. But I will certainly continue looking at every angle until I feel satisfied. Genuinely meant best of luck and thank you for the exchange.
System of ground based antennas and other relays. Possibly some sort of atmospheric reflection of signals? Not sure but I certainly don't buy a system of thousands and thousands of satellites that never need repair or maintenance.
Right? The scary part is, either they're all retarded, or it's you.
You didn't propose a single tantalising arguement though, all you did was personally attack me. Nothing of this interaction was beneficial from my prospective. I suggest stop arguing for you, and start arguing for the benefit of everyone. Attitude can go a long way in getting your perceived ideological opponent to stop being an opponent at all. But yes, somehow I still feel as though I got something out of it, although I'm not entirely sure what.
So why hasn't some intrepid explorer triangulated the fucking signal of just ONE of these "thousands" of antennas and proven it exists?
Shouldn't be too difficult. You just put GPS test on your phone and use it to get right under it.
Also, "some sort of atmospheric reflection"? Like AM radio? Wrong part of the spectrum.
Also, how about the satellite TV I used to watch as a kid? We'd move the dish around and point AT THE SKY. Why would ((((((((((((((((((((they)))))))))))))))))))) go to the trouble of faking the existence of TV satellites if ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((they)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) could just broadcast from towers and bounce it off the atmo? Why not just do what (((they))) did for am radio and say it's the same thing?
If the point were to construct an elaborate communications system that exhibited the properties of satellites, then why didn't they just do that INSTEAD of am radio?
1920s: We have launched these objects into orbit called "satellites". Your AM radio will receive signals from around the world. Not because the signal is bounced off the ionosphere, but because satellites!
But they didn't do that shit. Did they?
hollow earth is harder to disprove. It has historical implications in many ancient texts. Especially tibetan budhism. Things coming up from under the ground or living there who are the spirtual rulers or evil. ect.
Subterannian water chambers underneath the crust and a cooler zone within our mantle might give rise to two explanations of hollow earth. one is that the acceleration of spin made the crust and mantle get pushed towards the outside of our sphere/ creating a sandwich of crusts and mantle.On the inside the acceleration keeps things glued to the inside like artificial gravity and the outside gets compressed from the atmosphere and gravity. experiments with small scale planet formation(smal amounts of dirt and water) spinning in space shows that when things spin like the earth its accelration pushes it outwards creating a hollow cavity. There is another theory that just says there are giant cavities under the crust but have the same orientation and structure of our earth as we know it. Antartica and caves have been ripe for hollow earth speculatition. Nazi bases near the polar entrances which act like buttholes for release of gasses withing creating auroura. the auroura as of now is explained by magnetic pathway intersection portals to our sun which opens up to our atmosphere. creating the fireworks show we see.
>either they're all retarded, or it's you
your argumentation is so weak that is almost cute.
i personally think that the flat earth PUSH has been covering up the hollow earth. harder to disprove. more clues to give interest . historical implications from around the world of experiencing it
I'm trying to figure out why. Did they come to your house in the middle of the night and take your little sister while your parents were away and you were supposed to be taking care of her? And ever since then you've dedicated your life to finding your sister, and the truth along the way?
bump hollow earth shift thread. admirial bird who made many missions to the north and south pole for the US army during WW2 said there was many miles of undiscovered green land at the poles. he was originally sent to explore nazi bases in Antarctica. many believe he entered unknowingly into the inner world which has much calmer even keeled weather .
The druids figured out earth was a ball 10,000 years ago by simply mapping the stars and how they change position in the night sky.
The could tell the earth was round and actually orbited the sun...which is also round.
Flat earth comes as a way just to be an asshole, some retarded belief in god and bible, or just the result of a decade long life getting sucked into the conservative Republican conspiracy world.
Do some research into the ways republicans think.
If you get very close to them you learn things from them like..
"Its good to bring the McDonald's in this town, fucken niggers and spics don't deserve any better." Heck if we let them get fresh cooked food they might try climbing the social food chain and coming to the country clubs.
Literally have heard these kinds of ppl say similar shit like this.
We'll see who's mad when your cuck gets impeached and mass shootings start happening everywhere.
Fucken gunna bring the army and the ATF to slaughter your mental health patients
Might even throw them in Guantanamo since they'll fit the definition of a terrorist.
Y'all might even have the south's version of an Osama.
What a great life that would be in the next 7 years.
You do understand that what your talking about is the lander right?....
which was carried. inside of the Saturn V.
The lander did not fly 600k miles or up through the atmosphere. it was carried. in a streamlined rocket.
No proof of that anon.
We're you there at the launch?
We're you there to confirm?
How do you know the video wasn't faked.
The NASA head was voted in by the democrats for God's sake man the sexually assaulting clintons and pedophile hilary.
#pizzagate #nsaspiesonus #wikileaks confirmed
aww, shit, we got a genius on our hands.
>hollow earth is harder to disprove.
TO ALL FLAT EARTHERS
Just rmmbr, to fight a round earther...
Ask multiple questions that require complicated answers.
Keep doing that while winning the debate using social skills rather than logic.
Im with you brother, the truth shines light on those with the heart to identify with.
>leaked from russian cosmonaught
It was made by an animator who calls himself
Check the dates, this predates all the hollow earth videos.
Ive actually never seen a stomach they could be round they could be flat from my perspective at least idk you might have seen a stomach and have a better idea but I know you haven't seen space because it's not real.
Apparently the oldest tablets describing the a round earth were found in mesopatamia, dating back minimum 6000 years.
How does it feel being less intelligent than people who just 'invented' the wheel?