>>767633045 I fucked my friends long distance gf while I was travelling in her country. I thought they'd break up since they were on the ropes, but they're getting married now. He doesn't know, obviously
>>767634622 Similar story. My wife was raped and her story about it made me cum so fucking hard. It was incredible. Her rapist made her cum really hard too. She was so sick and ashamed by it. God that was a good nut. Pic is from the night she got raped after a lingerie foam party in LA.
I'm grooming a slampiggy to be the best at all manners of sex. She already sucks cock like a goddamn hoover and can deepthroat intensly. She can take it in all holes as much as you want, loves to be used and abused. She's currently learning how to analy stimulate somebody by rimjobs, pegging etc.
She's gonna be my masterpiece. Oh, she's also my roomie and my girlfriend who lives in the same house knows nothing about any of this.
>21 >(long time ago) >me and sister in my room. >parents going to aunts house. >i say "tell them you dont want to go". >she looks at me. >says "ok". >5 minutes later... >mother comes into room. >"we are going to aunts (name) house..." >"¿do you want to go?". >she says "no. ill stay" >parents leave. >20 minutes later.... >we do like webm related. >the end.
>>767637403 You’re lying to yourself if you think a 10 year old can’t give consent for sex in any way other than legally. Shitbags like you think that sex is some kind of magical thing that carries consequences beyond the understanding of minors, but that’s ridiculous tomfoolery steeped in centuries of religious control propaganda. Sex isn’t magic. A typical 10 year old could understand all the possible outcomes of a sexual relationship, including physical health outcomes like pregnancy and disease, emotional ones, and relationship dynamics that could be manipulative or abusive. That 10 year old also has the ability to refuse consent for sex, because she has something called bodily autonomy. And neither you nor the government should have their nose in what she decides to do with her own body, unless death or disfigurement is a likely outcome.
>>767638819 You’re ignorant. 10 is just an arbitrary number. Why not 12, or 15, or 18, or 21? You even used the word “educated.” Exactly why can’t a typical 10 year old understand the outcomes of sex? They can, IF they are provided the education. A 10 year old can understand leukemia, if educated. A 10 year old can understand rocket engine design and solid fuel propulsion, if educated. Sex is simple in comparison. So allow me to let you prove your point... exactly what magical thing is it about big bad S E X that a 10 year old would be unable to comprehend given education?
>>767639468 You're clearly a child. Or a serious fucking pedo to think a 10 yr old boy or girl has the mental makeup to understand a sexual relationship. Clearly having a sexual relationship is different then a non sexual relationship right?? Guy right above said at 10 he saw a porn and acted stuff out. Guess that's all you need to know right moron. I put this in there and that's it. If she can understand that you think you can fuck her???
>>767639468 its not the arbitrariness of the number. I think we can agree that an 18yo is more mature (mentally) than a 10 yo. We have to draw a line somewhere. Saying the lie is arbitrary doesnt mean we should have no line at all
Also there is a difference between two ten yo having sex and an older person having sex with a 10yo. The difference in maturity leads to exploitation. That is why we have the laws, even if they dont make perfect sense to you. Anyway, sad I have to write this. I would seriously donate to have you pedos chemically castrated and save the world the trouble of your perversions
>>767640086 Could not understand with education? You fucking moron, their brains are too immature to consider the emotional consequences of fucking. Its actually pretty simple. We know fucking has more importance than other activities. No one makes a "that time you wrestled with your brother and no one had sex" thread on /b/ because sex is different. It doesnt have to be "magic" for it to be more consequential than other acts. Stop pretending it isnt so that you can justify being a pedo
>>767640086 I'm saying they dont have the education you dumb fuck. And yes, there is more to sex then fucking and leaving. Unless you are really fucking kids then leaving. What about STDs? Children having sex can fuck up their insides physically. There are multiple reasons not to fuck children. You can teach a monkey sex. Go fuck that...
>>767640246 arbitrary is in the eye of the beholder. Nevertheless, I think more harm would come of legalizing sex with 10yo than the opposite (ie it is not legal)....thats enough to justify the law for me. Keep trying, pedos
>>767639989 I reject your label. Otherwise, i’ll note that nowhere did I say there should be no line, I said that current lines are arbitrary. You seem to be talking about the power imbalance between an adult and child, and that will always be present. But the problem you describe is actually not a problem of consent, it is a problem with rape. Rape doesn’t occur here because the child is young. Rape occurs here because the child does not consent. Not because they are too young to consent, but because they would say no, or at least fail to give approval .
>>767640318 that's what they say about legalizing Marijuana...
the problem is "moral panic" among the fiercly indoctrinated who consider "common sense" to be the sense any person would have if hey thought about it, rather than simply an idea most people have had tattoed on their brain (without their consent).
common in most common sense means it is held in common, not that a person of common intelligence can figure it out...leastwise in this case it is
>>767640386 Not at all... a lot of children do consent to molestation B/C THEY DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND IT'S WRONG.... when they get older and figure it out most of them are fucked up by it or need therapy..
>>767640265 Actually, you don’t have to teach a monkey sex. They just figure it out. Just like kids. And I’m glad that we agree, that it’s really an issue of education. Other than adults failure to provide appropriate knowledge and information, there is no other reason. Thank you
>>767640447 My assertion here is that the argument that a child could never consented to a sexual relationship because they lack the ability to understand the outcomes of a sexual relationship is a fallacy. I make no other assertion.
>>767640675 Yes, as they get older they learn and understand. Children monkey don't fuck.. no children animals do. And adults don't fuck babies in the animal kingdom, thank you for making my point. They have to grow and mature to understand it.
>>767640568 lots of kids consent to parents abusing their psyches by submitting them to Catholic Nuns with rulers and infinite vats of toxic shame....
what's the difference ? cultural approval.
look to the variety of cultures out there...when the entire culture approves of child sex, it won't be a problem. the problem is not the value of the opportunity, its the rage and stigma applied by the society.
....then there are those selfish pedos who actually have no compassion concern for 10 year olds...they suck. Even in those cases, the need for secrecy is what introduces the most post sex shame and mental gymnastic-induced stress.
>>767640944 Lol have you ever talked to ANY kids in a Catholic school?? None of them want to be there but putting a kid in catholic school is much different than fucking them. Children look to adults for education, support and protection. Not to fuck them. When they get the opposite that's when they grow up into fucked up adults... usually committing the same crimes that were committed on them.
>>767640948 how many people read all the details of contracts ? they simply trust their lawyer, or scroll down and click yes BECAUSE THEY WANT TO
logic is overrated, especially since we stopped really educating the young and gave in to indoctrination. Look at how common core and teaching styles intended to impart UNDERSTANDING as well as ability to perform mental tasks get so much resistance from the money-grubbing right, which needs mindless drones to do its bidding for poverty wages.
>>767640985 No, its not a bullshit response because legalizing marijuana isnt commonly understood as giving weed to kids. So it is about adults and their own bodies. I know your "moral panic" bullshit didnt quite pan out here, but really, its not analogous to fucking a ten year old
I done need any culture, religion, teacher or doctor to tell me fucking children is wrong. I look at my 8 yr old neice and 11 yr old nephew playing on the swings and KNOW they aren't ready for adult sexual relationships.
>>767640675 Jesus Christ you have obviously never interacted with a child, thankfully. 10 year olds are unable to think ahead in terms of consequences for the simplest of things, their emotional development isn't just incomplete, it has barely begun, they're just learning things like empathy and friendships. How deluded do you have to be to think that they have the mental capacity for consent, do you give a child you credit card and let them run around doing whatever they want ? They're gonna do dumb shit not because of a lack of education you absolute mongoloid but because they don't understand consequences yet. And that's why children have no power over themselves, not just about sex but about the most basics things like taking a fucking shit, until they grow older.
>>767640948 False. A typical 10 year old, provided appropriate education, has the capacity to understand the ramifications of a sexual relationship WITH THE SAME ACCURACY as a given 20 year old. Nothing can be said of a 10 year old, including not predicting how they would feel emotionally, that could not also be attributed to a 20 year old. The fact that current laws deprive children of their rights to bodily autonomy by making the argument that they are “mentally incapable” is groundless.
>>767641550 dude, first off, no pedo second, I abhor the hypocrisy and inconsistency of common 'morality'. morality is not an imperative of natural law, it is a set of choices on how to proceed in society, by society... there are usually several to dozens of ways to climb a mountain, but somehow, only one is moral ? that's absurd sounding, and that's an accurate metaphor.
I raised my daughter by speaking to her frankly, and without dumbing her down. Her ability to reason was not clouded by the rain of 'fairy stories' and 'white lies' that adults get away with when they decide to avoid the uncomfortable facts....
we infantilize children, so they think like infants.
get fucking over it and get a load of yourselves.
chldren are way more capable than we permit ourselves to think. childhood itself is a social construct of recent invention. for fuck's sake.
>>767641388 The problem here is that you have been brainwashed to believe that in no possible circumstance could the 20 year old actually want it, not that sometimes the relationship is imbalanced or abusive.
>>767641818 if one way to climb the mountain results in harm to others, thats the one we call immoral
I dont think you're as well-versed in this whole "ability to reason" thing. Plenty of philosophy out there about morality without religion (try Peter Singer if you need a place to google start).
True morality considers the harm of the action (consequentialism) through the lense of suffering, ie that which causes the least suffering is the most moral.
I mean this is what I get for coming here at all. Glad to hear youre not an actual pedo, but your arguments are the same that actual pedos use. Maybe use your "ability to reason" to consider why you agree with pedos
>>767641818 Your fucking spacing makes me what to kill you more than your retarded words, and that's coming from a phoneposter. Children aren't dumbed down, they are dumb, but the mistake a lot of adults make is that they treat them as such. If you treat a child like a dumbass he will grow up and stay dumb, treat him like a smart person and he will eventually become smart. For the rest of your fucking post, I'm willing to bet you haven't read a single book about morality before spewing out the bullshit you've spewed out, while thousands of great men have written entire libraries dedicated to morality, you think you've solved it by thinking about it for 10 minutes. Read Kant, Aristotle, Marx, they all start from nothing and build up with logic, and I'm not telling you this to put my post above yours, I'm telling you this to save you from your pseudo-intellectual disease you seem to have
>>767639623 Not really kinky at first, just the usual exploring each others bodies. I licked her pussy and fingered her a bit, we tried sex but didn't work that young. She was amazed at my foreskin so basically got my first HJ and BJ. Wasn't until we were about 12 that I first cum actual fluids. She was shocked as I was
>>767642067 I'm with you, but there is no such thing as true morality, according to Kant morality was only about intentions, if good was intended then the action is morally superior to an action yields the same result but without the intention. Now there are of course things that are deemed morally trash by default, and fucking a 10 year old is on the list
>>767641550 I understand that’s what you believe. You believe that children should have their rights and personal determination limited and controlled by adults because of reasons that those in authority have fed you. I understand that you have picked up their argument like a flag and carry it proudly into battle with you. I only want you to consider that the argument may be designed to keep a population disenfranchised and powerless so that current authorities can retain power.
>>767642288 Yes but the intention is itself subjective and so to judge the true morality one must look to the consequence We presume we act rationality, that is with anticipation of a certain consequence from certain actions. If we act with the intention of less harm, but that results in more harm (by means of any number of mistakes), then have we acted morally? Perhaps. Or we've just been a well-intentioned moron. In any event, the capacity for anticipating the natural consequence of any action is necessary to this formulation. A capacity simply lacking in most if not all children.
By all of this I mean that children cannot consent to any number of activities because they lack the capacity to fully consider consequences.
I think we agree, but it shows that "no fucking kids" isnt just some stone age superstition used to oppress the population ( I dont think youre that guy anyway).
>>767642433 What the fuck are you talking about? Have you read a single word from the post you're quoting? What part of that is a belief ? Show me a society that lets it's children roam free without supervision as soon as they get shat out of the womb? How is not fingering my child after she said okay daddy helping keep a population disenfranchised and powerless? There are actual issues out there, our societies are a fucking mess, humanity is generally shit, but this is not the fucking problem. Focus your autism on actual problems, and if you want to be a pedo, feel free to be one, but make sure to know that what you are wishing for is neither natural nor moral.
>>767642782 Stop wasting my oxygen. Not a SINGLE FUCKING CRAZY EXAMPLE you just raised is anywhere in what anyone has advocated for. If you have to create a problem that no one is arguing about to feel like you’ve won an argument, you are guilty of the straw man fallacy. Did someone in the thread say kids shouldn’t be supervised? No. Keep your one-sided implications to yourself. Did someone say people should fiddle kiddies? No. What was said was that current power dynamics deny children the inherent right to their own bodily autonomy. Except in cases of severe harm such as death and dismemberment, that’s not ok. Telling someone that you get to decide what they do with their bodies is fucking facism. The only people talking about kiddie fiddling are you fascist straw man obsessed motherfuckers.
>>767644400 your exception betrays your illogical conclusion. "Except in cases of severe harm"-- well no shit, but who gets to decide what "severe harm" is?? I assume the facists who tell you that fucking kids is bad
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