Ask me questions about ants, I'll answer.
what are the coolest ants and why
would you rather be able to control 200'000 normal ants or 2 human sized ants
Ants and bees evolved from a species of solitary wasp that simply decided to stop leaving the nest one day and evolved to have its children take care of it, so I would say--aside from species specialization--ants are fairly similar to wasps but just different enough to where you can just tell they are something entirely different.
The coolest in my opinion are Solenopsis Invicta and literally anything in the family Myrmecia.
Favorite species, completely misunderstood. They're doing what they were born to do and humans are getting in the way, not the other way around.
Where do you live? That is an important factor.
Fire ants are being kept in line by other species of ants despite gaining so much ground since the '30s, but there is still a good chance due to the fact that they are designed, essentially, to be unstoppable.
You seem pretty invested in fire ants. Just out of curiosity, do you work with them? I work in a lab with Simuliid flies across the hall from a different lab dedicated entirely to Solenopsis invicta.
Diatomaceous earth. They'll take it back to their colony and it will kill them all by essentially tearing them up from the inside.
Will check it out now.
This is a guide that will definitely help you. In general, the easiest to raise will be camponotus ants.
I don't work with them, actually. I just enjoy that they are essentially the perfect species of ant in every way.
This is true, but as other ant species have done, they can potentially live within human dwellings over winter in order to survive. They will thrive around 60-70 Fahrenheit at lowest and the United States in general will remain a bit higher than that on average until winter.
It depends on the species you want to catch.
Some do, yes. Solenopsis Invicta, for example, has an alkaloid-based venom that inhibits the process of angiogenesis which is the creation of new blood cells. It's being used to treat psoriasis and certain kinds of cancers.
Its sting is rated at above that of a tarantula hawk wasp in the ways of how painful it is. You'll experience waves of burning pain for up to 24 hours.
Solenopsin. It can be nearly synthesized but can't be successfully.
No, they don't destroy villages. That's a myth. The most they really do is kill a single individual once every thirty or so years.
Oh, definitely. David Attenborough has some stuff about that.
I said myrmecology because that's the fucking name of the field of study. Last night was a literal entomology thread, my post said "entomology thread ask me about ants and talk about insects in general" because entomology is the fucking study of insects.
How long have you had them? What species are they?
Myrmecia Cephalotes. Pretty much all Myrmecia species look like this. I think they have some of the most unique designs in the ant world. They're pretty aggressive too, they've got some of the most toxic venom in the insect world and, if you're allergic to their venom like 2% of Tasmania is, you'll go into anaphylaxis and probably die. There's also a species called the Jack Jumper which uses its jaws to jump away from danger at insane speeds by clapping them against a solid surface.
This is as good a pic as I could get. My phone blows.
>There's also a species called the Jack Jumper which uses its jaws to jump away from danger at insane speeds by clapping them against a solid surface.
I want to see video of this.
Damn, it's going to be damn near impossible to tell without a good photo. :\ Solenopsis xyloni tends to be more slender than solenopsis invicta and also has thicker antennae
This video in general is about myrmecia ants and it shows an ant displaying that behavior
If the ant species is Solenopsis Invicta or anything of the Myrmecia variety then the ants win.
Diatomaceous earth. It's something that they'll take back to their colony and it tears them up from the inside. They also dislike chrysanthemum flowers so you can plant some of those nearby and can also drown them out of their own nest with lemon juice.
a googolplex is a laughably small number compared to grahams number. To put it lightly, if all the planets and stars were made up of US marines, the ants would fill all the space in the universe between them.
quick question anon, some years ago near my grandparents house there was this bg anthill of Pogonomyrmex barbatus, I always loved to see them because ants are fucking awesome, but one time I found a particular ant that I never managed to identify, it was roughtly the same but it had a bright red color and a pipe cleaner-like texture.
to this day I still don't know what species it was.
pic somewhat related, it's body texture was somewhat like this
Polygynous colonies have already, since 1931, displaced and driven down the populations of many different species of insects in their introduced areas. They eat up and destroy farmland and cause millions of dollars worth of damage each year in Texas alone. The fact that they displace other insects means that they're, by proxy, displacing other ant species by eating up their food supply. This is something that is extremely difficult to control or stop because of the fact that S. Invicta propagates so quickly. However, in some areas, RIFA is losing a tiny, tiny bit of ground and is being held in line but only by a thread. In the future I can imagine more of them moving toward the west of the United States because they have taken mostly to the southeastern areas and the west still holds a lot of land for them to take up--especially with all of the farming.
A hivemind is a bit of a stretch. They'd use pheromones like other colony species.
Was it this? If so, it's a species of wasp called the red velvet ant.
It is spring and thus the ants have begun small incursions into my home. How can I get rid of the ones that are here and keep out the rest? (PS. I have a dog which I don't want to kill with ant poison)
I lived in TX for quite a while, my father in law is an extension entomologist that specialized in stinging insects. I'm an immunologist and spend a lot of my time dealing with venom allergy-all the hymenoptra cross react enough that they can be a PITA. TBH, unless they find something that specifically targets fireants we're stuck w/ them. As long as they don't adapt to hard freezes by digging deeper...
Back when I was young enough to run around looking at ants for fun there used to be this one fuzzy black and orange ringed ant I would find on occasion. It was never with another that looked like it, and was fuckhuge (for an ant)
Any idea what kind of ant it could have been? This was in Kansas (Midwest USA), if that helps.
That's exactly the problem, we can't target fire ants in specific and doing an ant holocaust would devastate the ecosystem even if you were to import ants of the native variety from elsewhere. Their native range in Argentina allowed them to have evolved in so many different climates and under so many different circumstances that the United States is a perfect place for them. It's got a lot of the same climates that S. Invicta is already familiar with and it can also adapt quickly to environments that are a bit harsher than its native range as you can see by looking at Texas's population. They are the perfect species of ant when you get down to it.
I try and make myrmecology threads every once in a while because they normally do end up pretty successful. :)
Was it this >>767611201 but orange? Velvet ants come in a few varieties.
It could have been a completely red velvet ant, I can't think of any species of ant that has fur to be honest.
Evolution is a myth. It takes more blind faith to believe in evolution than it does to believe in a Creator.
In short, you have been played, brainwashed, and deceived--and you've bought into all the bullshit that evolutionists teach.
Even archaeologists and a growing number of anthropologists, zoologists, and botanists are realizing that the evidence for evolution simply does not exist.
Ants, bees, and wasps are related, true; but it was by design, NOT through the evolution of a lazy female wasp. In the natural world, laziness leads to starvation and extinction.
Dude they're fucking metal. They bite down on their prey, bend their gastor downward, and just fucking flex so hard that the gastor rips at its seams and it releases a yellow toxin that smells kinda like curry.
It most likely will, I don't see any reason as to why it wouldn't work.
Because they are good girls.
They're a species of parasitic wasp that gets mistaken for a member of the true ant family often and only females have the ability to sting, but they also lack wings unlike males.
Honestly I can't remember how I learned what I know. I can credit the base of my interest to AntsCanada, though, so if you want to learn about ants you should start there.
I assume you're trolling but, if not, I'll take the word of someone whose life work it is to study these things over some religious fanatic who doesn't want to learn new concepts.
Have you ever eaten honeypot ants and if so what did you think of them?
Agreed. It works for ants because they have no sense of ego and there's no sense of supply and demand due to this lack of ego; no one has individual wants and everyone pays attention to the colony's needs instinctively.
What's the average lifespan of an ant -- a sugar ant (Camponotus consobrinus), for example?
What can be done to bring back harvester ants in the southwest? Horned Toad Lizards need to eat.
If you were the scientist tasked with finding and eradicating the ants from the movie Them, what would you suggest?
if an ant is placed in a different colony but still of the same species would the new colony accept the foreign ant?
Colony lifespan depends on the species but C. Consobrinus queens will live up to seven years and workers in general will last a month to three months depending on species.
I guess just reintroduce them. However, they might easily just be wiped out again by the lizards...
It depends on the species of ant, really. Pogonomyrmex Owyheei can live up to 30 years but other species can live as few as seven.
>Fill lake with sugar and honey
>Ants get attracted to it
>Napalm strike immediate area regardless of losses
Depends on the species. Some species are so genetically similar despite being in different colonies that this can happen. Formica rufa can do this, and even will feed members of neighboring colonies because of it. Some species will go in instant defense mode and "smell" every ant in their colony to find the invader. (Each colony has its own scent and when a foreign scent is introduced it puts the ants into a bit of an uproar)
Fumigate the fuck out of your house. If they're taking over the insides of your walls there is nothing you can do really.
99% of the colony is female and I don't think ants reproduce in a way similar to the way we do so I'm gonna have to go with no on that one as funny as it would be to see a giant ant schlong.
i have two drawn by Kahl
here is the one he made for me in a drawthread a few weeks ago
Suicide bombing ants are fucking gnarly dude
>explode your abdomen and cover your target/attacker in a toxin that your fellow ant comrades can track to your attacker/target
>they all converge on where you blew up and rip the enemy ant to bits
Ignore them because in our current partial pressure of oxygen large insects like that cannot bring in enough O2 to maintain their metabolic needs, so the ants would just asphyxiate in a matter of minutes.
It isn't "religious fanaticism". It's a matter of many factors taken together as a body of evidence--and the evidence points to intelligent design and not progression through evolution.
There is an evolution of sorts, but it is along the lines of all dog breeds evolving from a basic breed of dog; or several breeds of horses evolving from a basic, root breed of horse. Likewise for other insects, birds, and sea life. It's basic genetics that kills the theory of evolution that says that all life evolved from a primordial soup and that humans evolved from apes. Even among similar species, both plant and animal, more often than not, the offspring are sterile. For example, breeding a horse and a donkey will produce a mule, but mules are sterile. Crossing two types of corn will yield a hybrid, but the seeds of that hybrid are sterile. That is to say, hybrid corn will produce one crop of corn, but the seeds of that crop will not produce seeds. They will grow pretty plants, but no ears of corn. Even among dogs and cats, the more they are cross-bred, the more birth defects occur, and the more serious those defects are.
I'm writing from a scientific perspective, not religious, and certainly not from the perspective of a fanatic.
They haven't established themselves in the way they have in other areas, though they do show up in the area periodically. If it's not then it's just S. Xyloni doing what it does best: eating
Ants evolved from a species of solitary wasp and they have integrated themselves so deep into the ecosystem that they help to keep it in check.
If you really want to argue the evolution of ants, do it with Brian Fisher. He'll confirm everything you're saying is a crock of horse shit.
Were that the case and it was important enough then the ecosystems of said areas would be devastated and practically nonexistent today.
>Even archaeologists and a growing number of anthropologists, zoologists, and botanists are realizing that the evidence for evolution simply does not exist.
I'd like to see your sources
They think the occasional s. invictus we get is probably brought in as a passenger with trees or other agricultural imports used in landscaping, etc.
Its a fucking desert out here, if you aren't evolved for no-water always hot, its pretty tough on you.
That's very true. It's most likely just S. Xyloni being an eating machine and out-competing other species then. P. Barbaratus takes a lot longer to develop so their numbers tend to stay at a lower range for a longer period of time.
Oh if it was when you are a little kid then that's probably just because kids like to see what happens when you burn shit and revenge is a natural thing to want, everyone has that kinda stage.
Could ANT MAN really defeat Thanos by crawling up his ass while he's taking a shit and then Expanding to supersize?
I have a problem with Brown Coastal Ants invading my home from the garden on DAILY raids. (also known as the Big Headed Ant). I've killed about 3.4 million of them with boiling water in the garden but they still come inside and go after my cats food and anything in the kitchen. Small as they are, they haul LARGE amounts of food over long distances across the floor.
Easily killed with direct pesticide spray, they won't take baits and keep returning. They come out from every tiny gap in behind windows, doors and where pipes enter the house. Lately I've even found them upstairs.
As i said, they ignore all baits.
HOW CAN I ELIMINATE THE FUCKERS!!!???
Will also add that they have begun to clog my drains and even the dishwasher filter with their tiny bodies. I just killed another 300 or so that climbed out from behind my oven and were eating residue on the underside of a microwave meal container.
Nope. I love all ants equally. Even fire ants, which everyone seems to hate for some reason.
It's probably a polygynous colony, meaning there are multiple queens. Try diatomaceous earth or chrysanthemum and, if that doesn't work, call pest control. Polygynous colonies are hard to kill.
My fucking life. help me kill these pricks. Tried mixing honey with borax but they ignore it for the most part. I have to be wary that my cats my lick stuff up too. Tried using enclosed Baits as well (ant motels etc) but they ignore them.
In your experience how effective is diatomaceous earth in killing colonies? I have been told it works extremely well because of how quickly it gets distributed and the fact that it tears ants up from the inside.
I have no idea how people gauge how many ants are in a colony. It's a fucking mystery to me. The best I can assume is that people count off the amount of dead ants seen at a grave site each month but that doesn't seem like an effective way to do it.
I've only ever seen a customer using it against roaches.. it killed plenty of them but they were still thriving pretty well.. we have other dusts like delta dust and cymexa in voids and wall outlets because most customers don't want dust all over their house.. can't say if they would take de back to their best though
There are some ants who can see pretty well, though, I believe those of the genus myrmecia, but ants in general use their compound eyes to detect sudden movement rather than to focus on a target.
Give it a century or two.
We already have radio-controlled bugs, and environmental web integration is around the corner. The biggest obstacle in making this happen, the way I see it, is the illegality of testing CRISPRs.
Any of you read "Micro" by Michael Crichton? What did the ant experts in this thread think of it?
Probably gonna take a long time. We're only just getting around to using ant behavior to figure out how to better use algorithms and such technology would also rely on a certain amount of awareness in the derivative colonies in order to get jobs that require so many individuals done.
This is a pretty good summary
Literally the most painful thing I've been stung by worse than a bullet ant
That's another species of wasp that's given the name "ant" because of its design. I feel awful for you Aussies, everything is trying to trick and kill you
Bruh Rammstein are German
A bunch of graduate students get tricked into participating in the testing of unstable shrinking technology. They find out soon enough that the guy putting all this together had done several phases of testing despite (most) of them killing all the participants. His company dabbled in military-grade technology of that size, too.
Michael Crichton died before completing Micro, so someone else had to wrap it up and publish it.
Biofags are some ehh "interesting" people as is evidenced by this thread. One of my degrees is actually in bio but I studied plant genetics. Most of my colleagues were nerds yes but the wildlife folks were the real oddballs. There was this old guy in my grad program with a skullet that was obsessed with spiders all things. How did you come to be so interested in ants op?
I watched AntsCanada and realized they're literally just what the Soviet Union hoped to achieve but never did and it blew my fucking mind.
Basically, ant social structure
A society in which all people work for the greater good, to each according to his need and from each according to his ability; where supplies are not wasted due to greed and there is no jealousy from ego which could disrupt this perfect union.
No they have roaches.. I only ever deal with them when i go to apartments because tenants don't pay for the service.. ants are literally everywhere from mansions to mobile homes
Not in the business but there was a roach problem in my apartments and it was traced to some hoarder in a nextdoor apartment. I saw it, it was nasty.
The guy was really cool but he was a bit loopy in the head and became a hoarder and the roaches bread under that.
Ya that will definitely attract roaches.. and once they are in the building its next to impossible to get them out.. put down igr's under the fridge and stove
Green fields of France.. literally nothing to do with ants
Maybe rats too. They knaw on the chicken bones that the niggers throw all over the place. I've seen this in a lot of places, if I see chicken bones strewn over some place then I'm 100% sure that a nigger has been there.
Yeah an exterminator did that when my place got some roaches from a neighbor. There were sticky traps, these red things which I think were meant to bring it back to the colony, and these glue looking things. I never saw a single one after the exterminator guys did those. Though the nest was later found to be nextdoor.
Funny ass movie if you haven't seen it Willard.
Maybe that's why that dude started going loopy in the head and needed some brain surgery, he was never quite the same after that so went to live with his family. When his kids and I were clearing out his hoarding we found the infestation right under a nightstand by where he slept.
You're behind the rest of human society. Your way of thinking is fucking stupid.There's evidence of evolution, but hey, why go the scientific way when you can be a screaming crazy religious fanatic.
When we were kids we used to shovel buckets of these ants nest and plant them near another ants nest some 1km away and watch them fight eachother. Great thread op. What do you think about the ants that dwell ik big nests like these?
Here you go, OP.
Largest one I've caught so far. Been stung by them in the goldfields here in Australia when they get under your jeans. They jump about 6 inches per hop... unless they're dropping on you from the trees. Only ant I've encountered that actually stalks you when they sense your movement (excellent eyesight). I've seen some with wings. VERY aggressive fuckers.
A popular prank here from prospectors is to drop a lead bullet down their nest entrance (which just looks like a hole in the ground, no mound).... and then some poor bugger with their metal detector comes along. Lead and gold sound exactly the same on any metal detector. The moment your pick hits the ground it explodes with these giant, jumping, stinging fuckers.
61 recorded deaths in a year from them nationally from what I could see.. but official records don't seem to reflect more than 4. All from Anaphylaxis.
Here's a Red one we extracted from a nest that was in very DAMP conditions next to a creek... something I've never seen before since they're usually on dry ground. This one attacked and stung the shit out of my iPhone. It stung the phone case for 30 minutes until I took it away. Must be a Samsung user.
IDK what I was watching but there was something about a type of ant mound having an average size underground unicorns with the mound above ground. I would guess that if you factored in the average life span of the grunts and the birth rate of the queen you could get a "close" number. Think there's any feasibility to that?
I'm not a scientist on this but this is a decent guide.
Aussies get those little fucking funnel web cunts that like to hang out in shoes and whatever and box jellyfish and salties, but here in the US we have Brown Recluses, nothing so bad on jellyfish though can be painful, but we have niggers.
When the cows come home.
Got advice on how to get rid of a sugar ant infestation? I already coat everything I throw out in baking soda and that seems to have eliminated the swarms that attack my garbage, but I keep seeing stragglers every couple of hours.
how do i make their population dwindle to just one from time to time, besides cleaning up the kitchen and putting rotting lemon in their points of access?
organicfag here, no poisons
I guess OP has abandonded this one.