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So, anon, you wake up and boom, you are in the middle of street in middle ages.
What would you do? You remember everything.
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bump up me please
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Buy bitcoin
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>>767588235
You can't live for 200+ years for it, you can only tell your gran-...-grandpa to tell your grandpa to tell your dad using condom, I mean buy bitcoin.
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>>767588065
Open electrocity, make battery, make light bulb, make motor, make more nicer motor, make generator, make transformer, make electrocity counter, make wires, make goyim pay for it.
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>>767588065
I'd bump this thread.
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>construct a .50 Barret from memory
>go nigger hunting
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Load up on Apple stock
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Carve a Pepe meme into something that will last until 2016, for the lulz. Then id spend the rest of my life killing Muslims to thin the ranks.
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>>767588843
Sorry, but lathe is not invented yet. And no bullets.
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>>767589109
The problem is that muslims at this time more likely to be more 'white' that white.
But pepe-stone is good idea.
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>>767588065
>drop to the ground and start sucking my own dick while farding an shidding myself :)
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>>767588977
Sorry there are no Apple stock, there is only a stack of apples.
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>>767589281
Your dick is too short to do it
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>>767588065
Behold, I am the master of the forces of nature. I produce lightning from fabric, pull metal from the Earth using contraptions of my own design, and will objects to point towards Polaris. I can harness the powers of light itself from the elements alone, casting my illumination upon you all. I am the champion of alchemy, metallurgy, of medicine. I am beyond literate. I can count all of your sheep, your slaves, your court, without great pain. I can cure many of your ails in time, increase the yield of your crops, and design constructions and mechanisms far greater than you will ever conceive of. I can fortify your milk, show you countless ways to indulge yourself with cooking, sing you a thousand songs, tell you a trillion stories. I will show you the power it takes to destroy mountains. I can tell you everything about the world you have yet to know. I can show you the surface of another world through mere lenses. I can show you a horseless carriage that could travel faster than you have ever dreamed. I can show you how to fly.

And if you refuse me, I will make sure that your dynasty is the last, a footnote in the books of a society ruled by the emancipated.
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>>767590033
>immediately arrested and beheaded for being a demon.
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>>767590033
Sorry, you don't have an education certificate, we will not take you as doctor, sorry.
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>>767588065

Remember kiddies, if ANYTHING in the past changes(you existing at that time is already too much of an anomaly) you could accidentally make it so your family never meets and you just cease to be.

As for what I would do? Just try and live a quiet life away from people. There was more empty lands back in the day.
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prevent the fall of constantinople and the spreading of mudslimes
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>>767590251
Fools! So be it. As my blood flows freely from my body, so shall the flood that will consume you. A
>plague
upon your houses.

>>767590365
>education certificate
>count wizard
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>>767590529
We don't care, we YOLO.
If there were a method right now to somehow change the past - I'd do this for shit and geegles.
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>>767588065
depends, what continent am i in? If in asia, i could probably instill a new philosophy with me as the spiritual head. If in europe, generating a new cult with ideas towards the stars, and deism shouldn't be hard to make it standalone. If in the america's the color of my skin should be enough for them to believe i was sent by the gods to be a spiritual messenger to guide the people. If in Africa, we don't go to Africa.
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>>767590606

You might not even exist to be able to enjoy the changes you make. Also you speak for yourself here. There is no "we".
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>>767590659
Near to your current location in nearest city.
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>>767590706
Yes, we don't exist anymore.
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>>767590713
Sweet, i get to slay native pussy all day and night. Neato.
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>>767590529
Thats not how that works. You watch too much TV.
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>>767590706
Okay, fine, I.
Still, I don't care.
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>>767590764

Pls explain how a theoretical idea that NO ONE has achieved "actually" works.
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>>767590751
Dobro.
But slavic languages had changed as a fuck, at least russian.
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>>767590770

Not asking if you care. I also don't. Just reminding all anons that's all.
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>>767588065

Figure out what period I was in and then build whatever invention they hadn't figured out yet (printing press, wind mill, water mill, crane systems, etc.), take credit for it, get rich, become a lord, crush pussy.
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>>767590853
can i have this translated into English please?
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I always have this in my time machine just in case.
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there aint even any good memes left here it's all just porn wtf
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>>767588065
Get splinter and die.
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>>767590942
>Good, but slavic languages had changed very much.
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>>767590852
Careful. Do you believe that A comes before B? And since you put actually in quotation marks, if I really wanted to, I could go ahead and explain an "actual" method or model of getting from A to B and making a C or D or Z using concepts, laws, and theories that are generally accepted to be valid right this moment.
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>>767588065
>Go outside
>Cough once
>Infect middle ages with my 20th century germs
>wipe out mankind
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>>767591046
Actually not, since alcohol is available.
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>>767591128
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>>767591075
ah, thanks.
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>>767591128

Go on..
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make a farmer's revolution
>most of the guys in middle ages were poor farmers
>socialist rev
>becomes supreme leader
>fuck some redheads
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>>767588065
get a polio shot
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>>767588065
>be me
>go to bed, wake up in the middle ages
>I remember everything
>people are suffering from easily treatable ailments
>offer help
>accused of heresy
>burned at the stake
>mfw
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>>767590852
I've weird theory, that it just makes ctrl-c ctrl-v of world that existed, but with you added, so it fixes condom paradox.
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>>767589140
the materials are there
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>travel to the head of the Roman Catholic Church
>tell them what happened to me
>tell them I have several solutions for stopping Islam once and for all
>become best friends
>me and the pope :)
>convince him to include "traps are gay" into the doctrine
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>>767591245
Why would you even want to fuck a Poettering?
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>>767591269

LMAO wut
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>>767588536
do you know how to do all that without books or internet?
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>>767591240
Well, first I need you to tell whether or not you believe that A comes before B. It really
>determines
the outcome of what I could possibly even say. Get it? Determines?
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make a farmer's revolution
>most of the guys in middle ages were poor farmers
>socialist rev
>becomes supreme leader of the people's republic of iberia
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>find woman
>YOUR MY MUMMY NOW
>she makes me tendies while i invent 4chan
>just browse 4chan
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>>767591421

Oh okay let's say I do believe that A comes before B
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>>767590529
nigger, this is a alternate dimension, therefore, the future never existed, although it's the same future, it didn't happened yet, unlike a time travel in the same dimension
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>>767591357
Yep.
Battery is just a piss (or better something acidy like vinegar) with copper and zinc (or iron) 'coins'
Light bulb is graphite or a thin wire in air (or in vacuum, but I can't into glass blowing, but I think I might take learn it in place, as free nigger), motor is simple, couple wires, some bearing, some brushes, done. Generator is similar, but three phases and simpler commutator. Transformer - ez.
Counter - motor with low resistance and gears, wires - anything, with motors it will be way easier to make.
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>>767588065
Connecticut Yankee in king Arthur's court
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>>767590606
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>>767588536
Even if you had the knowledge, good luck getting the materials and tools.
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>>767588065
Just lurk 4chan probably.
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>>767591329
In World1 your parents fucked and you were born.
In World2 is exactly the same, but different time and you exist there for some reason, killing (or giving your paps a condom) will change the future, but u wont disappear.
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>>767591627

Hold it. Where in the op does it say alternate dimension?
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>>767591806

??? But where did this other world come from?
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>>767591800
Copper is easy to get, iron - more difficult, wire - existed. Isolation - paint existed, so it might work. Lead existed, even mercury existed.
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>>767591817
OP (me) doesn't say anything about it.
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>>767590952
anymore infographs like this?
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>>767591912
worlds [i] = new world(world i-1);
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>>767591138
I think you have that backwards homie. YOu are the product of decades of antibiotics and medicinal culling. You're cough would contain like, nothing, compared to your average peasant.
Enjoy your smallpox though. 99% chance you're a teenage faggot who never got the shot.
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>>767588342
>200 years
>middle ages
Choose one history buff
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>>767590529
The mere fact that you theoretically exist at a point in time after you have time traveled means that the reality you existed in only existed because of whatever actions you take in the past and everything you know about history will inevitably happen in the exact same way. Because your past is the future of your new present.
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>>767588065
>So, anon, you wake up and boom, you are in the middle of street in middle ages.
>What would you do?

Sneeze.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KKY9mt0gcs
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>>767592059
200+ you nigger.
Yea, I've meant 500+
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sell information pertaining to military advancements. Then use the coin I earned to have a ship built and filled with goats, sheep, chickens, ample provisions that include large amounts of seeds, cookware and canning materials, extra clpthing and the tools to make clothing from wool and leather and tools with replacements. Then I would sail to Lord Howe Island with a skeleton crew and killed them when I get there and live alone with a fresh blonde blue eyed unspoiled virgin 10 year old girl.
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>>767591922
Yeah, and it existed for all of earth's history. So, in your "start from scratch" plan were you going to finance dozens of new specialty caravans to go to isolated mines and bring those materials to you? ANd probably also finance several new mines entirely.
And foundries?
And refineries?
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>>767588065
rape everything in sight
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>>767589140
>Sorry, but lathe is not invented yet. And no bullets.
Lathe is ancient and was well-developed in the middle ages.
Casting lead bullets is also ancient.
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>make a boat
>water with vinegar and shit
>travel to japan
>buy some historical port manga
>sell it for many bucks
>become first weaboo in europe
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>>767592243
Steal shit, it is easy. No cameras, just need to have big pockets.
Foundries - work for free for blacksmith and 'free iron'
Refineries - not needed much, just hammer and foundry will be enough.
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>>767592288
Then you are good to go
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Die from the bubonic plague or smallpox. But to be truthful. The moat realistic thing that would happen is the local authorities would arrest you and try and figure out who you are. Your language will be very different than theirs. If they even understood you when you start talking they will probably assume you are alunatic or witch/warlock and condemn you to death. Especially if you state you are athieat and do not believe in god.
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>>767592288
I don't think a footlathe is going to get you a rifled steel barrel.
And I'm fairly certain sniper rifles don't fire lead shot.

I could be wrong, but I'm also definietely not wrong.
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ITT anons arguing over how time travel and alternate dimensions work instead of being funny.
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>>767588065
- start brewing my own beer after robbing several nobles for startup money.
- introduce drinking beer while it is cold to you fucking limey cunts.
- kill Shakespeare
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>>767592085

Oh....wait I knew that. Now I feel dumb for forgetting..my bad I guess
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>>767592632
>Your language will be very different than theirs
Really depends on language. With some like english you will be mostly fine, they will think that you are weirdo, but with russian - good luck.
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>>767592051
Nope. It isn't about less or more germs, germs covered everything and still do. You're carrying mostly the same shit they were back then, but yours and theirs are separated by centuries of mutation. You step out of that time machine, your immune system is getting inundated by everything unfamiliar to it in the air, water, & on every surface. But you're also spreading your microbes unfamiliar to their immune systems.

And what has survived the onslaught of the last century of immunization efforts, is not weak, it's strong.
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Slowly start making black powder and bewilder the king. Get appointed a court wizard. Start a company making black powder. Live life as a nobleman. Peasants swerve.
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>>767592528
I...holy Pelor, your master genius plan is to steal stuff and work for free in the middle ages.
I give you 1 week, tops.
I'm sort of surprised you've managed to live to 15 in the modern world.
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Discover penicillin
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>>767588065
Fuck 12yo's because everyone's doing it.
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Shit in the central street indian style in the middle of non-designated street
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>>767588065
Find somewhere to apprentice blacksmithing and live a simple and meager life free of technology and my exgfs
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>>767592771
You are taking this goofy thread waaaaaay too seriously.

The right answer is
>appear in mideval times
>start screeching for iCarly and Tendies
>impress local woman with your vast amount of good boy points
>make her dress up as Sam while she makes you tendies
>defend loliporn on 4chan
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>>767592681
Of course a treadle lathe wouldn't work for that. People would know how to build one. Find a better power source such as an undershot waterwheel and marry the two together.
People in the middle ages also had knowledge of copper, brass, and bronze. You could easily create an fmj round.
The only real difficulty would be a good primer for your powder.
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>>767592850
>I give you 1 week, tops.
We are speaking like 1-2 years, because shit never works first time.
> your master genius plan is to steal
Dis might not work, sure, but worth trying. Everybody will expect stealing food and gold, not fucking steel wire.
>and work for free in the middle ages.
Free work is appropriated everywhere. Just imagine, you have to buy a slave, but here slave comes for free.
>'m sort of surprised you've managed to live to 15 in the modern world.
It was easy, modern world it too good for retards like me.
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>>767593222
>appropriated
appreciated, fix my esl
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>>767592771
> It isn't about less or more germs, germs covered everything and still do.
Really? No shit.

Yeah, no.
YOUR immune system is getting inundated by entirely new shit. Everyone else is getting mutated strains of shit they've already dealt with and a whole fat load of you not having any diseases. It already happened once idiot. Europeans brought their crazy ass plagues to Murca and wiped out 90% of the population. The native population hadn't developed plagues and sent back...syphilis? People without virulent diseases don't spread virulent diseases.

You aren't a typhoid mary, you're just some dumb shit about to die from plague. Sorry to ruin your power fantasy.
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Fuck goats.
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Try to drift a horse.
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>>767588065
First I figure out what monarch and time I now live under, then depending on where I am, I may move to a better place for my plans. I create gunpowder and some firearms, I demonstrate them to a ruler, and offer to sell some, using that money (plus money from making other modern inventions) I train mercenaries in usage of weaponry more advanced than what I gave the monarch. I usurp the throne with the help of my mercenaries, pay them well, then employ them as a standing army. I use my army and modern knowledge to crush any angry nobles and revoke their titles. I then use my modern knowledge to advance the military, social, and economic structure of the realm by centuries. I'd then start the industrial revolution a bit early, help make cures for various diseases, establish plans for clean water, promote cleanliness across the realm. By the end I'd plan on having the realm which was previously 11th - 14th century be as advanced as an early 19th century state.

As for an heir, I'd generate multiple sons, train all of them well, and then pick the most intelligent one as the heir, and then "dispose" of the rest. If none are intelligent enough, I'd pick the most intelligent as heir anyway, keep the rest alive, and then as I'm close to dying transition the realm into a constitutional monarchy with a democratic system.
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>>767593770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8G1lYK_IqY
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>>767593952
And they say you can't drift on FWD.
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>>767588065
>Impress everyone with my ability to magically look at things, figure them out, and invent efficient effective solutions to solve them. >Leverage my reputation to a position in the royal palace.

>Grow an e.coli bacteria culture and wait until the moment is right.
>Kill everyone in town.
>lel
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Force idea, that water in river is kosher and it is OK to wash, God told me.
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Invent public transportation.
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Remember what I was doing before and travel through space-time.
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Realize I likely don't speak the language of wherever I am.
Sharpen sticks.
Become raider.
Shout modern obscenities at people before I stick them to death and steal their shit.

Alternatively, if I do speak the language, yell obscenities in another foreign language and stick people to death for their shit.
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>>767588065
>Look around & see everyone in the fucking mud and filth
>get on a ship and get to the americas
>tell the injuns the other side of the world is mounting an invasion of 75 million savages that plan to murder them all and take their land and poison it, with no ethics or morality to impede them. Unite with your warrior tribes, support them to stand watch on your shores, let no living man step foot on this land, burn every ship and allow none to leave in one piece.

>leave
>discover I spread some horrible shit to them myself and wiped them all out anyway
>fuck bitches bc why not everything is fucked
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>>767588065
Use my stupidly limited general knowledge to climb to a decent status and office. Then die in a few years from dysentery or whatever shit they had back then.
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Make a hydraulic/pneumatic logic computer
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>>767591604
Alright. A before B. A, then B. A, therefore B. Let's suppose that space is real. Let's suppose that what we currently experience our experiences within is a kind of "dimension", or really, just a space. A realm, or bubble, a medium that is separate from something else. Maybe, other mediums similar to it. Maybe, a void. It depends on how you want to interpret things like brane cosmology, which suggest that there are all kinds of levels of mediums that constitute whatever reality is, and that the medium we occupy inherits several mechanisms and properties from "lower" mediums, and inevitably has properties and mechanisms that, most likely, bleed out into the "upper" mediums. And sometimes, potentially, scenarios where parallel mediums interact with one another, sometimes to even create a new medium, involving things like string theory, where you can think of every particle as a string, a literal 1 dimensional line that just goes on. Just the collection of theories and thoughts given the assumption that dimensions are what is, but it gets so particular that I don't want to waste my entire evening sitting here walking tediously through what must be about 200 consecutive hours of introductory reading, just to put across the idea that two bubbles could press against one another, or that you can bend things and poke holes in things and the like. So I want to abstract the concept from the jargon, so to speak, but I want to be consistent with this. So let me try here.
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>>767591604
Now, we have to address this thing we call time if we're bent on assigning this, thing, a label like space or medium. It was said earlier, that A comes before B. That's what we call causality. What you agreed to. There was A, so in virtue of A, along comes B. But not quite. It's more the case of there being states. Periods. Moments. Increments. Maybe not at all, but for the sake of comprehension and representation, let there be such. Whatever you might choose to call it or them collectively, there exists separate things for what we experience through our subjective being of being "here". So, let's call them moments for the sake of consistency. There was moment A, the first moment. It contained all kinds of information: characteristics, actions, potentials, a bunch of values, just about everything there is within what we're going to call the universe, space included. Moment A can be represented as a dot in a void. Nothing connected to it, nothing associated with it. Just a dot. Just a lone dot.
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>>767591604
Now, if you were to experience this moment, this moment A, you wouldn't. Or, you would be in the experience of moment A, and that would be it. There would be no relative past, present, or future for you to continue or begin experiencing anything. Or even finish experiencing anything. There's no elapsed time- there's no time. Moment A is when t = 0 for all practical purposes. There was no change. Nothing in the system, this moment A inside of this medium, this space, this universe, changed. No change in energy, nothing. Just moment A. I really want to drive that point home. So, maybe you want to continue having an experience and not forever be one moment that simply never does anything that be. Okay. Let us suggest that in this universe, this space, it is possible for information to be, "translated", to change states. To variate. Maybe, even, because they themselves exist. It is possible for things within this universe to create additional moments and change the quality, maybe even the quantity of space. Maybe because something has fallen into this medium from some other medium, or brane, or string, whatever it might be. Something happens or happened from our cosmic perspective of looking upon this dot in a void. So, in our universe, we have a moment A with x amount of space in existence, and x amount of things inside of that space that also occupy that space by being extended in certain directions.
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>>767591604
In the sense that you understand that things go up, down, towards you, away, and so on and so forth. There is length, width, and depth. But not a lot. But whatever it is that is inside this universe at moment A, is going to cause something spectacular to happen. It's going to extend what little space that is there, it's going to extend this little amount of space, into a much larger amount. And because it is going to cause this to happen just by existing, and just because it just exists, another dot pops into existence next to the dot that represents moment A. Because moment A exists. Now there are two dots. One, of course, is moment A. The other, is now moment B. And moment B is just like moment A in many regards. Seemingly the same space, seemingly the same universe. Except, the values that might constitute moment B are radically different. Space is this moment is way, way bigger now. The distribution of energy across that space, perhaps, is different. Maybe even the form. But, regardless, there are now two states for the universe we know of, the same universe represented by both of these dots in a void. And we were told that one caused the other to exist. So, by that logic, dot A, in its nature, presides over dot B. It caused dot B. It has this little string that attaches it to dot B, but whenever you try to observe it as this cosmic agent looking into this crazy hypothetical realm, no matter how you might try to express or extend it in your realm that you preside in, looking in, it always seems that dot A comes before dot B. That dot B follows dot A, always. So, now you have a line. A line of cause. A causal line. A, before B. And, if you stick a you inside this universe, just to be something that's in there and experiencing. You now have a real way to actually commit to the act of experience, as we define it. There's a before and an after. There's a "now" and a "later". Experienc-ing, experiencing, is now possible.
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>>767591604
So there's a universe, there are causal lines, there are dots that represent moments, and the hierarchy is exactly like that. Universe, causality, moments. And then for more complicated reasons there are times where things seemingly don't follow causality in the "direction" that you would expect them to, as you yourself, you know, move "forwards". It should be that everything does, and yet, it seems like it doesn't. On some scales and at some levels, the "direction" in which things change states becomes symmetrical enough. That is, it doesn't matter which way "time was flowing", things would unfold causally as you would expect them to. 1, 2, 3, and 1, 2, 3, either way you go. So, since I've been given the go-ahead to "actually" explain a theoretical idea (of many) that no one has really achieved, I'm going to use the famous pool table model. But, also mention that existing is a form of time travel enough, so, there's enough proof for that component of the act of time travel.
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>>767591604
You're in a room, randomly. In it, there is a pool table, with all the billiard balls present. Including the cue ball. And the cue. You've got nothing better to do, and existential angst hasn't gripped you yet, so you decide to mess around with the pool table since you apparently know what pool is. You line up a shot with the cue and knock the cue ball into the rack, and you sink a striped ball first. Those things happened in the sequential order as they were listed. Deciding to play pool and not choosing your suit first resulted in you taking the cue, striking the cue ball, causing the cue ball to follow a path that led it to collide with all the other balls, and sinking a particular ball into the pool table's pocket. Moments on a line, a causal line that seems to follow convention, in a universe. Now, let's say you decide to line up a particularly simple and easy shot. You get into position, cue at the ready, eyes at a really good angle, enough to almost mentally plot out the trajectory of the cue ball you're about to hit. You go to strike the cue ball. It travels, for a brief second, and then sails into a wormhole. Wait, what? Where did the cue ball go? Well, it went into a wormhole. A nice way of saying it did a thing that probably shouldn't be allowed to happen, and feasibly as far as most people are concerned today, really shouldn't happen. Let's say it did. And let's say that the only place any of this is ever going to allowed to be able to take place, is this one universe that's just a room with a pool table, and you. And, it can be structured as moments on a causal line, in a void.
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>>767591604
Now, what some physicists like to suggest is that all particles, all cue balls of the universe so to speak, are lines. Maybe, instead, that they have these lines, these vectors, these trajectories. They literally call them "world lines". And, yes, you can think of them as vectors of where the particle is going to be as states change. The cue ball was here, and when t = x, it'll be over there, with this and that being the case, because that, and so on and so forth. The cue ball you struck before it entered the wormhole had a world line that led it into the ball you were easily going to sink. At least, it would have, but there's only one possible universe. However, there is not only one set of potential vectors anything can take. Nothing at rest, is ever truly at rest.
>If
you hit something, it
>could
do all these other things. If something has the potential to roll off in any other direction, if the circumstances or environment that would allow it to roll in such a way were to be realized or be the case, then it isn't as if that thing would just lock up and never roll in the direction it fundamentally must if the state of the universe is such that it would. The ball you might be rolling on the pool table won't refuse to roll right because you only ever started striking it towards the left. It must, in virtue of its physics and the physics around it. Causally.

So, where's the cue ball that you knocked into the wormhole?
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>>767591604
Well, imagine it this way. Light travels only so fast in the universe that's only a room with a pool table and you. It has a potential past and future. All kinds of things inside of this room universe contain probable states that could "be", and are dependent upon all kinds of things, in a most deterministic way. At least, regarding the model I've chosen to regard without getting into the tedium. Remember when I said that this universe is the only one where you're doing the things that I said you were doing? It's more or less a subtle allusion to a wholly deterministic modeling of what I guess we'll call the universe. And so, in this place where this thing that is happening can happen nowhere else, in this place where everything would be different if it could be changed, light only travels so fast. And, you only experience things that can occur in the moment you can perceive. Generally, that's slower than light, but it also happens that your eyes rely on light to perceive thing visually. Meaning, you seeing the wormhole happened in the time it took light to come (or fail to come) from the wormhole to your eyes. And no faster than that. Meaning, there are events that could very well be set in stone to happen, so to speak, that you can't see yet, because they're way, way ahead of the light that is causally meant to hit your eyes later. You could say, there's a field of vision that you're limited to. A cone of vision. A cone of light that you are limited to. There is a light cone, that you're limited to perceiving. And it doesn't make any sense that you should be able to see behind you if your eyes aren't designed to receive in that fashion, so similarly enough, you're not going to be able to see further behind what has already entered the light cone behind you.
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>>767591604
And let's remember that we modeled all this, so all events are happening on a line, a causal line that in most cases can't be violated. A, before B, always. You, in every moment, and through a collection of moments, constituting an experience that is linear enough to really make the case that A comes before B, always. And, that you never know about Z before B. You have to experience everything between B and Z to know Z, finally. You're stuck traveling forwards on this line, sequentially through each moment. Your world line, is the causal line. You follow it, exactly parallel to it. So does everything else that's also following the laws of the nature of this room universe. But, the wormhole and the cue ball still need answers. You know about holes. They go places. If you think of space as a piece of paper, and you fold it, you're keeping the same amount of space, always, but you're still manipulating space so it occupies less, "space", or void, outside of it. Were you to poke a hole through that folded space, you'd create a place where things could move across space using said hole. Cutting across space, because the hole enters at one point in space, and out another completely different point. Since it seems that time, the changing of states, is inextricably linked to this universe, we may as well call it spacetime. Rather, even, it's that bulk model in brane cosmology alleges a bunch of things, but you know. Tedium.
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>>767591604
So, you know what the wormhole is doing in terms of being a shortcut through space. You know that, because your relative perception of all things in space requires light to travel a distance to reach you and represent everything in that space, experience requires for there to be an elapsed time. And that requires moments, plural. And since time is inextricably linked to space in this universe, if the wormhole has to have an exit, because it isn't just a portal to the void, it very well could have an exit... at a different point in time. If it varied that much, maybe. Let's say it does. Exactly moments before the cue ball was swallowed up by the wormhole, right perpendicular to its trajectory before striking the ball you wanted to sink. Remember the trajectory of the cue ball, the world line? The moment that wormhole opened up, its world line just deviated the whole heck away from everything else, including the causal line. And if it's going backwards, it means the fated trajectory of that cue ball just up and did a 180, a big fat loop, and went backwards a bit, before doing another 180 and rejoining the thread of world lines. So, moments before you hit that cue ball and it was swallowed up, another wormhole opens up and spits out that very same cue ball that's practically in the middle of flying briefly for a few seconds across the table. And, it collides with the cue ball you just hit, knocking it off the path of the ball you wanted to sink, as well as the wormhole it was supposed to enter to get there in the first place.

Wait, you say. That doesn't make any sense.
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>>767590603
>>plague
well can't argue with ya there
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>>767597289
tl;dr
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>>767588065
THIS THREAD HAS GONE FROM BEING ENTERTAINING TO BORING AS FUCK
You tldr muddafuggas are ruining my erection.
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>>767588065
idk. i probably wouldn't live for very long after so.
most likely burned at the stake for being a witch
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>>767588536
>Gets burned at the sake
>>767588065
Id warn my niggas in Constantinople
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>>767589239
Iberian are not, and never were honkies
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>>767598492
>>Gets burned at the sake
No, I invent the electric chair, they will like it.
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>>767591604
Well, consider it this way. We just got finished suggesting that things are causal. That, if something can change (and those things do change), things that can happen, and would, must happen. If a cue ball struck the cue ball before it entered the wormhole, it totally has to obey the laws of nature of the universe, and follow a trajectory where it was struck by a cue ball. But, how, right? The cue ball you struck before went into the wormhole, it has to go into the wormhole again, because this is the exact same universe with the exact same moments. Nothing was destroyed, there was literally just a hole in the piece of paper that something fell into, ending up back a couple inches before itself. Outside of a doodle of a cone and some straight lines, with a line leading right back into that cone doodle. In a kind of magical kind of way.

It's actually "straightforwards". The same logic you might want to use to suggest that the cue ball had to go through the wormhole, is the same logic that requires the cue ball not go to through the wormhole. The second wormhole happens before the first, sequentially speaking, so its actions preside over the future moments that will occur, even though it occurs in a future moment itself. So, it should preside over itself- and it does, because the future state it came from no longer occurs "actually". And since there's a slew of potential ways the moments could have unfolded, since this change was made to a moment that all other moments depend upon, all that changes is the moment that is "realized" or "actually" happens. You know what hasn't become an impossibility? The cue ball having never been interrupted and traveling through the wormhole.
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>>767591604
It just doesn't happen the "next time around", but, in order for the cue ball to have been knocked off course, something has to knock it off course. The paradox is solved by, well, nature. Just like if you sit a ball on a flat surface and tilt the surface towards gravity, the ball will roll down the flat surface at the angle it is tilted towards gravity. To illustrate an even better picture, imagine that you are trying to walk through a wall as a normal human being. You know what's going to happen. You're going to walk briskly and proudly and confidently into the wall. And you're going to impact the wall. And the wall won't give way. And you're going to probably bounce off the wall painfully. And no matter how much you press and push and get up against that wall, you will not instantaneously phase through it. Maybe, if the wall never eroded and you could remain pressed against it at a constant pressure for a really long time, you could get through it eventually. But, feasibly, in pretty much every scenario where you're a normal human in a normal world trying to walk through a normal wall, it's not going to happen. And so, since you quite literally cannot violate the laws of physics, or, the laws of the nature of the universe (specifically this hypothetical room universe), you're at its mercy. You just get knocked on your behind when you try to go against it. You just follow what's there- you have no choice.
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>>767588065
keep concealed handgun on me and demand to see the king. Hold him up at gunpoint and shoot any guards who dare attack me. become king. ruin an entire kingdom and then repeat this process.
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>>767588536
>get murdered for being a witch

>I FOUND YE wITCh!
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>>767598844
Stop you drugged out hippie
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>>767591604
So, in the room universe
>something
has to happen. It must. Either the ball never goes through the wormhole to avoid the paradox, or the cue ball that did go through the wormhole has to be a possible state for the past moment that can, or is, expressed when the wormhole makes the "out of time" changes to the past moment, which effectively applies to all future dependent moments, that are "actually what happened". The latter is possible because it is the only other option where things can unfold in a truly possible way, according to the nature of the universe (causality). Literally, physically, the ball cannot enter the wormhole again if it happens that the past state includes a wormhole and a cue ball. One of the ways that could happen is if it knocked itself off course to begin with, in said past event, with itself. Now neither ball will enter, and causally speaking, relative to the cue ball, it hasn't violated any laws to begin with. It just left it's former "real" reality where its past existed. Now it's "un-caused". And totally allowed to exist (actually probably not exactly but that's another story). That, anon, is how you time travel without causing paradoxes while also causing changes in the past and existing without having to had been born.

Because you would literally, physically, causally, only be allowed to not exist, or exist. There's no third option.

>>767597738
tl;dr Nature and physics.
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>>767599093
There is electricity in bible. And they've never read a bible, since they are illiterate niggers, and bible were only in latin (and greek and may be slavic at this time) and some brittong don't speak 'buritus cocinus'.
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>>767588065
> be best doctor, obviously
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