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My wife is a terribly boring lay.

I love her and we have two beautiful kids together. We've been together for 13 years. She's Japanese and I'm Canadian.

I have a very colourful sexual past, and she really doesn't. She's very sexually conservative. I've begun with girls like that before and turned them into pigs, but my wife is unchangeable.

She won't do anything in public.
She won't let me come in her mouth.
She doesn't like porn.
She isn't vocal.
She won't let me touch her asshole at all.
She won't suck balls.
She stops in the middle of a shitty blowjob to wipe the precum from my dick.
She can't roleplay.
She wears basically men's underwear and sports bras. Nothing feminine.
She has no fantasies. None.

The things is that she'll fuck me when I want, but I have to do everything. She'll give me a handjob or blowjob, but she seems bored and disinterested. I've been trying to work on this for years with her.

She's trying a little now, but I've gotten a complex from her complexes. My hormones have died down and worrying about what she's enduring eclipses my own horniness.

Divorce is not an option because I need to be in the house with my kids, and we get along great out of the bedroom.

I'm not even looking for advice, just some commiseration. Anybody else have these issues?

I'll keep posting big brown Japanese tits for S&G.
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Why the fuck did you marry someone you're not sexually compatible with?
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Yeah why don't you prove it and show pictures of your wife you fucking fat faggot
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>>767544632
> I've begun with girls like that before and turned them into pigs, but my wife is unchangeable.
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>>767544647
Don't you usually have to prove things that are bragged about? Why would you want proof of a sad side of a guy's existence?
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Anon that is me. Divorce not an option really and wife is super hot. My sex past is pretty deep and hers isn’t whic is cool but she don’t know how to be caring or have sex. She lays there and it happens few and far between. I want to really find some side pussy but I don’t even know how after 11 years. Am 32 btw.
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>>767544765
Yeah, I hear you. You get out of practice and you start to adopt their insecurities, and project that onto other women.

I start thinking that other women would never want to do anything like have a guy blow in their mouth. I wind up pitying women I'm jerking off to.

Thanks, Obama!
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That is what you got for marrying a Japanese.
I live in a Japanese town in my country. And most of Japanese are cold heartless and uncaring.
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>>767544489
>kids

Well, there's your problem.

Long-time Canadian expat in Moonland here. I have no personal experience with Japanese chicks, but judging from what I've learned from friends and acquaintances, your experience is typical. Once a kid or two has been popped out, sex either ends or becomes utterly boring and disinterested. She is hoping you'll lose interest.

Serious suggestion: do what the Japanese men here do; cheat, but be discreet. It's almost expected. As long as you don't get caught and embarrass her, all's well.
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>>767544489
What do you do to turn her on?
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>>767544489
She is changing you fag, your livido is gonna dissappear soon, you either deal with it or fuck someone else, but good luck with feeling like shit.

Plus: if you tell her how bored you are with the sex life you'll end up screwing her and making her angry at you for complaining, welcome to women 101
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>>767544489
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>>767545531
The internet assures me this is not an ethnically exclusive issue.
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>>767545549
It was always this way, and my wife is always mindful of not going too long without sex. However, the sex is whatever flavour is more boring than vanilla.
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>>767545609
I put on some Burt Baccarat, make her some bangers and mash, and put on my best velour tracksuit. What else?

Jokes aside, as I said in my post, she has no fantasies. I've probed and there's nothing there. I'm pretty familiar with the female body and I am a very unselfish lover. However, I don't pull out all the stops nowadays because she's not pulling her weight.

So not much anymore.
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>>767545704
I just found somebody that life has kicked in the balls worse than me.

Have some tits, Eeyore.
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>>767545967
Well, she's trying (sort of) to take care of your needs, but this was predictable, even more so if she has always been this way. Some people just have little to no sex drive.

I suppose the first and most honourable thing would be to suggest that you satisfy your needs elsewhere. If she loves and respects you, she should agree to it.

I have a really good sex life with my wife now, but she thinks that demanding sexual exclusivity from a partner whom you cannot satisfy is cruel, perhaps even abusive.

Satisfy your partner, or set him/her free.
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>>767546348
at least your babies are cute and winners since they are from chad
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>>767544695
>Actually believing this
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>>767546348
Yeah, she is willing to have sex or give hand/blowjobs, but they are joyless. Her heart is in the right place, for sure. And that's why I haven't fucked other women. But her mental blocks are murder for my libido.
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>>767546706
Well, to be fair, she never had an orgasm before me either by herself or with a partner. She laid that out at the beginning of the relationship before we'd had sex. It took me ten years to get her to come. So she's shown progress of a kind. But it's glacial.

Or are you suggesting I'm foolish for believing I've brought a whore out of a lady? If that's the implication, I won't bore either one of us with a response.

Have some tits, implier.
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i mean... what if you had dated a girl that was super into sex? and you got cheated on because of it? i think you have the better end of the stick.
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>>767546824
>her mental blocks are murder for my libido.

This is only going to become worse. I strongly suggest that you talk to her about opening up the relationship (discreetly, of course) before you or she really does become resentful.
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>>767547116
I suppose that would be the better end of the stick if the stick were limited to those two ends.

Have some dark nipples.
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>>767544489
well i am married too and my wife is not the wildest fuck. i understand what You go through.
You seem to love her and she's trying.
what works for me is to wine up my wife. she should also try a psychologist to unleash the sex drive.
You can also try those female viagras like viafem. there are a lot of them, so maybe try a few.
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>>767547287
Already done. I've been having discussions with her about these things for years. I've been almost saintly in my patience, and she reminds me of that.

I will sacrifice almost everything for my kids. I don't drink or smoke anymore, I don't do drugs, and I don't have great sex. I am away from my culture, family, and friends. Once my kids are old enough, I suspect I will go back to my home country by myself and live out the rest of my days how I see fit.

Enjoy some boobs.
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>>767547366
In the years we've discussed this, my wife has bought one book, read five pages, and set it down where it wears a thick layer of dust.

She drinks a couple drinks every night, and it exerts no effect on her libido at all.

Some tits for your advice, my man.
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>>767547538
You're an expat in Japan too?
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>>767544489
I am sorry for your loss
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>>767547785
Indeed.
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>>767547865
Thanks, /b/ro.
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>>767547875
Where you at, bro? Akita here.
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>>767548291
I'm in Kansai. Kyoto city. Wife's at the in-laws for GW, and I've got my whole house to myself.

What's your Golden Week looking like?
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>>767547538
I’m thinking weed would do some wonders for you. You actually sound like my wife though. I brought her in from another country, she has no family, friends are hard to come by, she is with our 3 yo all day long. Then when I come home from work I want some ass that’s not there you know. She cares and loves and all that but givin her situation she says she just doesn’t get horny..ever. She never even touched herself before..conservative for sure. So I think I’m selfish for wanting to bust all over xhamster style. Anyway, I hope to discreetly find some ass to pound. But my problem is I can’t fuck someone I’m not mentally attracted to. So there’s my catch 22. I can’t fuck someone who I don’t have feelings for. I can’t fuck my wife. So there we go man. I use the herb to help cope.
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>>767547538
>I will sacrifice almost everything for my kids. I don't drink or smoke anymore, I don't do drugs, and I don't have great sex. I am away from my culture, family, and friends. Once my kids are old enough, I suspect I will go back to my home country by myself and live out the rest of my days how I see fit.

Are you me anon? US expat with 2 kids and wife with no sex drive. She enjoys sex (or claims to, I become steadily more dubious as years go by) as long as it is pretty vanilla, but in 10 years has only initiated it once.
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>>767548469
What do you do for a living? Please don’t say English teacher bro.
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>>767548469
Kyoto? Damn, I envy you. Akita is, well, boring as fuck. No history or much here.

GW was looking good until my cat got sick. I can't leave him alone. Was going to take a trip to 弘前市 for the blossoms.
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>>767545883
Kek, yeah if 4chan has taught me anything it’s that nobody cares and everyone is heartless
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>>767546968
You're fucked. The magic wand has scientific evidence that it's likely to get her to orgasm, but that means machine > you, always.
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>>767548555
Well, hear hear on the weed. It's a highly punishable offense in Japan, so that's out for me. I go back every year for a month and smoke my face off then.

I hear you with the mental connection. I spent my youth fucking women I disliked or even despised because they had a vagina. I'm too old for that now. I've got a high school girl that is in love with me, and I'm going to see what happens after she graduates. But other than that, I'd rather jerk off and not wish I could teleport out of some dumb woman's bedroom after the last rope of semen flies out of my spent cock.
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>>767548596
I am you. And that's sad for both of us.
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>>767548650
No. I'm an English teacher, bro.

You no rikey? Enjoy chest mound!
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>>767549024
英会話? I did some time at one of those, later taught grammar at a uni, and now do translation.

Fuck, I hate teaching.
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>>767548742
I make her come with my mouth. She has a "magic wand" it's called "Pecker". No lie. And she never uses it. It's in the closet with her exercise ball and yoga mat.
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>>767549094
No, I work at a private high school and have for 12 years. I just got tenure. I get paid for 14 months a year, but only work seven. I work 4 days a week and get 50K a year after taxes. I've never seen a gig like it.
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>>767548890
It’s so dope to find you on here this morning because I really thought my situation was unique. How bout dah. All the best anon, I’d buy you a Sapporo and taco rice and cheese. It’s like I feel we’re in some kind of fucked club.
>>767549024
Nothing wrong with that. I wish I could do some IT out there in expat mode.
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>>767544489
I'm not married but I have been with women like your wife before, they would try to be controlling and conditional when it came to sex, I ended up leaving all of them.
My current gf already has 3 kids but I never met them, she is moving out of state to live with them/support them, so I had to break up, probably can't be helped.

have some areola tits
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>>767549253
Well, I'd take you up on the taco rice.

You could easily do IT stuff here. Japan sucks at tech regardless of what the world would have you believe.
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>>767549343
The thing is my wife is a great woman. She's kind and caring and nurturing. But her sexual baggage is impenetrable.

And I've stumbled on those black nipples a bunch of times. Never saved them yet. Have some milky mom tits!
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>>767549195
How’d you get a gig like that
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>>767544758
Beautiful rack
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>>767549558
I fell into it. I taught eikaiwa my first year, and my school put an ad in the paper in Japanese. My wife caught it, and boom. I would never leave. I have virtually no oversight either. It's the beans.
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>>767549517
>But her sexual baggage is impenetrable.
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>>767549427
Nice! I used to live on Okinawa and I haven’t been able to replicate the taco rice here. It’s impossible. Right on brotha I’d look into it. I’m in cyber security so I imagine that they’d be interested in protecting themselves from the NorthKos and Chiner
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>>767550133
Yeah, you should fax over a resume. Because they still use fax machines here.
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>>767550133
>>767550267
were you guys fluent before emigrating?
how long were you planning to move for?
how old were you when you moved?
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You wont the lotto on an attractive wife, an amazing job, s stable situation that most people can hardly even fathom.

But lolfucking lol I would never choose to be you. Frankly I'm just not that stupid, I understand the emotional anti-human hell conservative social standards carry.

What the fuck use is all that money if you're not buying whores? What good is that stability when your dead inside?

I'm poor but my wife fucks dude. She cums on dicks, is attracted to men, has a sex drive. We do kinky shit all the time, nasty shit that will get you kicked off /d/. What the fuck is the point of being married without a strong sexual bond?

You may as well have a mistress because your marriage is a sham, and if you where playing by real old school rules that monogamy was always a fake ass facade to keep up appearances and keep people in line you rube.
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>>767550267
Ha! Thanks /b/either anon. Man I hope you have a slammin ass day.
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>>767544489
No solution for you, but I sympathize OP. Just out of a long term relationship with a girl like that, she matched 9 out of 10 of your wife’s frigid behaviors. It’s like trying to seduce a fucking Quaker or something, you can feel the guilt. The biggest difference is that this girl somehow thought that she was kinky and wild, but she was really like Steve Carell in that scene in the 40 year old virgin where he tries to mimic dirty talk to his poker buddies. Just a complete flatline.
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>>767544489
i am sad to say your only solution is prostitution

its not cheating as there is no chance of you leaving your wife for them, and they have no interest in you other then there business.

i do know of several men that went for this, its safe, there is no chance your wife will find there messages, etc, as you can just use a pay phone and go to the brothel/ there place.

do it for your kids
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So to the men on here that are married to traditional Japanese woman or Asian in general. I'm dating a beautiful Korean girl born in South Korea. She is sexual but not all the time. She is into certain kinky stuff. I'm 26 she's 30. But she's lazy doesn't like to go out and be active. She stays home and watches TV all day. She doesn't clean. Doesn't cook much . Smokes a lot and drinks a lot hence the weight gain. Am I in for a ride awakening if I marry her. I'm attracted to Asian woman especially the kinds that come from their country. But I feel there is something always behind the scenes with them. Pic related. Gf
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>>767550822
>fluent

Haha, I speak like a toddler in Japanese. My jb and home life are 100% English, and people in Japan almost never talk to you. I'm not a fan of the culture anyway. I met my wife in my home country and I'm here for her. I'm a hermit over here.

Sorry to disappoint.
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>>767550822
No I got stationed there as a young Marine. Loved it and learned about it there. Stayed for a bit.
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>>767550846
Congrats on your thorough redpilling. Somehow nothing you've said makes me want to swap with you because, well, you seem like an unkind person.

Be well, and enjoy some breasts, Rocco Sifredi.
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>>767551076
I would have laughed. Laughter doesn’t usually kill my boner but man that’s comedy.
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>>767550847
You too, mon frere!
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>>767551257
Thanks, but the prostitution would be like going to a beach to avoid the sand. A hooker is even less interested in sex with me than my wife is. I could have boring sex with my wife for free and save myself the commute.

Cheers though.
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my girlfriend is the same way. i do everything i can she she won’t even get wet during sex sometimes so it just hurts her. she still loves me but just doesn’t care for sex like i do. i fun on sex and need it atleast 15 times a week and i only get it 2 times a week at best. before i met my girlfriend i would bang and talk to multiple girls and now it’s all over. pic related is one of the girls that i dropped for my current gf
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>>767551380
>Sorry to disappoint.
I'm 22 and currently living as a hermit in the UK and your situation apart from the wife sex issue sounds very chill and appealing to me [spoiler]and I have yellow fever[/spoiler].
My concerns about japan are the shit pay and hours and language difficulty (I work in tech so probably can't avoid the langauge).
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>>767551315
My guess is you'd be in for more stress marrying Korean than Japanese. Korea is less enlightened and more traditional. Also, more xenophobic.

I can't stand the sound of Korean women's voices. They sound like whiny kids.

As for a rude awakening, they aren't rude if they're predictable.
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>>767544489
>SO.o...HE was behind of it
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>>767551837
There are options for people who don't speak Japanese. Honestly. If your country has a working-holiday visa program with Japan, you should do it for a year. There's IT work here.

It's a culture shock, so don't be surprised if all your expectations get ground to dust. It's never like anybody thinks. I wasn't a weeb, so I wasn't disappointed.

But one thing is that if you're young and not obese, you'll feel like a rock star your first year or two.
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>>767544489
I also have a sexually colorful past, most recent ex in particular was an absolute freak, now am dating a girl who was a virgin when we met 8 months in now only just getting her to have sex with people sleeping in other rooms of the house, progress is slow but seems to be happening, she is perfect outside of the bedroom though and has bangin' tits. Hoping we don't wind up like OP because at the moment it seems like it could go either way.
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>>767544489
Does your name start with K?
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>>767551695
i would not automatically say a hooker is not interested in sex with you.

sure, some may not be, some many are, sure its not specifically with ONLY you, but they are very interested in sex with anyone.

how do you find one like this? look at the services they offer, if they do bdsm and kinky things they are usually at least into the things they are doing! and you can do things with them that they are into.

if a hooker lets you cane her ass, put nipple clamps on her, put her own piss in her mouth and rub it on her face (note that as its her own piss, its very safe for her) then she is most likely a dirty slut, and is into the things shes doing.
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>>767551848
She's become western domesticated I would say. Doesn't have that voice. And isn't traditional as most Korean woman. Sex is varied at time. More kinky when she drinks she also has a fat ass. My problem is her quality of life isn't compared to mine. We are total opposite when it comes to leisure time. Pic related.
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>>767552115
Yeah, my name's KDaniel. Do I know you?
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>>767544489
>I've begun with girls like that before and turned them into pigs, but my wife is unchangeable.

Sorry OP but the girls you were with before were already sluts, you didnt do shit

and this right here faggots is why your yellow fever fantasies will never be true, Asians especially japs, aren't interested in sex. They are literally worker ants and nothing more.
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>>767552263
Yep. You look better since you cut your hair short.
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>>767544489
Rape her asshole while Shes asleep. All your Problems will be solved. Dont bother to Not wake her up. Just ram it in there out of the blue
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>>767551510

What good is a facade of kindness masking real human problems that nobody is making an effort to solve?

Goddamn dude, you're the one thats redpillled. You clearly cannot respectfully communicate with your wife about what sexual experience is honestly like. And then you construct a misogynist helpless distance from male and female sexuality as if thats actually normal. Women want to fuck, and when they dont something is wrong. Women arent just "like that" jesus, women are just as much sexual beings as men. Frigidity isn't an aspect of someones personality dude, its psycho sexual trauma., or shes literally just not attracted to you (and lol if you think that can ever be a healthy sexual relationship).

Or, maybe she is asexual, though that is way more rare than people want to make it out to be, and you're doing a disservice by not getting to the bottom of that with her either.
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>>767544489
Have you considered a sex counselor? Couple therapy or some shit
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>>767544489
I would suspect we have the same wife, but mine's not Japanese. Otherwise, though, a close match. I know your feels.
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>>767552263
MORE?
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>>767552637
Yeah, we've thought of that but the vagina whisperer right here

>>767552559

seems to have access to information about my life and all women that I literally feel like I should be shelling out hard earned money for.

He oughta write a book with just a massive picture of Elliot Rodgers on the front. I'd be the first buyer!

But no, wife thinks couple's therapy here is quite retrograde. If it's like ideas on metal illness, depressions, and other conditions, I'm likely to agree.
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>>767551510
Mad respect for your attitude (and how you shut down the troll there). I have an Asian wife, used to be an absolute freak, got what she wanted (visa, kids, big house, made women) and the blowjobs stopped. Still have some decent sex every now and then, but no eye contact, she never finishes me any more... Happy ending massages are now the way to get that actual touch again, not just robotic sex.
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>>767552778
That's a one of one, my good man. From a Japanese image board of wife pic swapping. As are most of my posts.
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>>767552226
Dude, have some respect for your woman, stop sharing her nudes on fucking 4chan. There's more than enough Asian sluts available to look at online.
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>>767552903
One of the sad revelations is the fact that domesticity is designed for women and is anathema to men's true nature, generally speaking.

She gets the kids, the PTA, the faithful husband, the home, the weekend play dates and all the things that evolution has primed them to love. Men, on the other hand, want to fill anything pink and soft with cum. And the desire that drives us is what eventually locks us into a lifestyle that doesn't particularly suit us.

I love my family and kids, but I also love cavorting and banging sluts. I wish there were a balance. I wish my wife provided some whorishness, and yours you.
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>>767544489
one night when she's sound asleep take a huge nutty dump on her chest. Chances are she'll freak out and possibly even file for divorce, but there's a 0.01% chance you'll activate some sort of long dormant shit freak fetish and she'll instantly become to freaky even for you you naughty boi.
If you want a safer bet, just order a human trafficked laotian whore, stuff your wife in a decent size luggage bag and throw her off a bridge. Your kids won't even notice a difference because the replacement is a dink too and she'll fuck like any kind of freak you tell her to because if she doesn't you send her back to the heroin farm.
And people say /b/ isn't helpful
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>>767552226
Yeah, that's tough. My wife and I are pretty synced up. We both like to relax and not be too busy on our days off. But I enjoy biking and exercise and she, well, doesn't. But I don't get in her shit about it, and she never nags.

It could be worse.
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>>767553253
Couldn't have said it better myself.

I've found - and perhaps this might be worth trying - that the occasional caveman style approach works. Throw her over your shoulder and carry her to the bedroom, and just rip her clothes off. Man handle her. I definitely saw a positive change in behaviour after that... at least for a couple of weeks. Then it kind of wore off again.
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>>767549927
I was thinking of doing something like this after I get out of the military. How would someone even begin to start working as a teacher over there? What are the qualifications?
> sorry about your wife by the way
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>>767553298
Hey pal. Sounds like you're not getting the attention you need at home. Parents can suck. But we're talking about real life things here. I understand your predicament, and I can't stop you. But just know you'd be a better you if you were nicer.

I've given out a lot of tits today, but you get Bismuth. Note the edges?
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>>767553721
>you'd be a better you if you were nicer
You're an english teacher? kek
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>>767553801
Shut up nigger
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>>767553420
True. Problem with me is she feels I like to go out a lot and not be home with her. She's like to have dinner together and all. I just feel there's no me time. And I gave up going to bars or hanging with friends much on a weekday or weekend. My only off day from her is Sunday. And all I ever wanna do is just be active drive around walk or exercise. She does have some shitty habits but nothing where it's relationship threatening
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Just wanted to say hi from Tokyo. Sucks about your wife situation, but glad you're generally happy with your kids and family otherwise.
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>>767551315
Wife is Korean. Born in the states tho. Her mom always spoiled her and waited on her hand and foot. She also can't cook and doesn't really clean. Got two kids by her otherwise I'd hit the road. Do yourself a favor anon, and don't jump into marriage. There's nothing sacred about it. It's just a different tax bracket. At least mine doesn't smoke.
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>>767553552
I'm generally a pretty dominant guy and she likes that. She's naturally submissive. But I'd call it submissive neutral.

But yeah, I'm a big strong and aggressive guy. It makes no difference. She's kind of like a vessel that will hold anything. If I was gentler, she'd take that too.

I don't mean to shoot down advice, but I've been tireless and exhaustive with my efforts. There's no silver bullet.
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>>767553863
It is so blatantly obvious I can't believe you haven't figured it out yet... There's no such thing as a woman with no sex drive. Humans are animals, and animals get horny. Despite your marriage you are still an outsider, a visitor in a country you barely understand. She is fucking a Japanese lover, probably one of your underage students, and has no need for your cucked american penis. It can't be anything else.
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>>767544489
Holy shit, I could have written the same fucking post, although my wife is caucasian.

Time can change things a little. Mine took more than a decade to open up a little.
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>>767554019
jesus christ that chink's toilet has more controls than a 747
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>>767544489
Why did you marry her is the sex was terrible?
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>>767554048
>can only think in Hentai plots
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>>767553801
I'm an English teacher who forgot a word, yes. I always reassure my students it's okay to make mistakes.

Here's a pic of what your mother mistakenly didn't do.
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>>767553027
>t. White knight
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>>767553940
Gotcha. Also I'm Spanish. So her siblings and other relatives love me her mom loves and her dad hatese cause I'm not Korean so there is still that awkwardness that I have to hide myself around her parents
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>>767551733
Ohhh the nigress. How was she. Attitude, sex, carrying herself, hygiene? Was it good?
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>>767553895
Thanks, /b/ro! Happy GW in Kanto!

Have a nice rack on me.
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>>767554048

I couldn't imagine being this boring, or bored, that you'd need to inject such things into a grown conversation about important things.

I'm not even mad. It's more...I don't know...depressed on your behalf.

Take some tits to go.
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>>767554345
Thanks bro. My wife feel asleep while I was trying to fool around with her tonight so I'm looking for some good Asian stuff to fap to.
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>>767554583
denial is the first stage
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>>767546348
Tldr: I can't satisfy my wife so she cheats on me.
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American with Thai wife. Similar to OP. I have a really sordid sexual history (and I'm often on steroids) so I tend to want freaky sex. She's been with only one other man ever, and she's really conservative. Her undies are not sexy, lol.

She gets wet when I glance in her direction, and she would never consider declining my advances, but she doesn't like being choked and will never let me pee on her or visa versa. Blowjobs are meh. She also isn't super into my precum, like OP's girl.

Perhaps the worst thing is that when I call her cunt and whore (I basically have to talk like that during sex to have any fun), I know that she doesn't really get the offensiveness of those words to the American ear. She just learned the word cunt a few years ago (from me, during sex), so there's no shock value.

But she is the nicest, most caring and selfless person I am likely ever to meet, and she cooks 365. And I'm pretty much a piece of shit, so I'll consider myself very lucky.

As for touching her asshole, OP, just do it you bitch. You can't really make her roleplay, or have fantasies, but you sure as fuck can force her to accept your finger in her asshole.

With my wife, the first several times I played with her ass, I had to tell her "don't fucking touch me" when she tried to pull my hand away. Now she just expects it, bc no way I'm not fingering a girl's ass when she's on top. What the fuck else would I be doing with my hands?
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>>767553420
>>767553863
As someone who prefers chilling indoors watching TV and playing video games (while remaining in shape of course) my yellow fever is getting stronger.

How did you meet your wives? Most girls I see (online dating as well) seem to go out nonstop and have a bazillion activites.
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>>767554089
My wife and I had a house built and it came with two of these. I use one button: flush.
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>>767554295
I get the same treatment. Just keep in mind that any problems a relationship has don't get fixed by getting married. My wife wasn't really sexual when we first got together. And would always sound like she was in pain when we would fuck and I wouldn't have half my dick in her. I finally just pinned her under me one day and deep dicked it and I dunno that seemed to really loose the flood gates on her sex drive. But the laziness is what kills me. I work a physical job 60+ hours a week then I have to cone home and sweep and mop my floors when she doesn't work. I dunno man. Everyone's got problems. Don't guess mine are too bad.
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>>767554837
dude what DOES she do with her time, Anon ?
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>>767554813
I mety *gf* through a colleague from work. So we had a good sense of meeting without the weird online dating formality. We hit it off when we met. We always talked and we saw each other daily. But once we got an apartment together and a puppy it kinda went to shit and I feel I need a breather from her from time to time. One thing for sure with any Asian . They are demanding people and very blunt . So I get triggered when she tells me what needs to be done even though I'm already cooking or cleaning. So I feel kinda annoyed as to why she's ordering me around when I'm already doing things for her
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>>767555167
gotcha. I wasn't suggesting actually being cruel. I mean, you love the girl, so that wouldn't make any sense.
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>>767554813
My wife was my student at an ESL school in my country. Only a few years difference in age, so not as Lolita as it sounds.
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>>767545967
>dem nips
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>>767554837
Yeah dude. I work in finance. She work as a surgical tech. Mind u I sit in an office all day on conference calls so not alot of physical work. So I make up for it by staying highly active. She stands up for a good few hours of the day and comes home lays on the couch watches TV while on her phone browsing the internet. And I'd she says let's stay home and watch TV I'll give into it and we will begin to watch what she wants (as usual) 10 minutes later she falls asleep. And I kinda sit there wondering what the future to do with my life.
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>>767555305
Yeah, some women feel a need to resist out of propriety until they've been assured that it's suitable to enjoy using her sphincter as an accessory. My wife is not one of those women. She's a "But poo comes from there" types.
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>>767555149
Sounds bizzare, like straight out of a movie.
Did you come alone to the restaurant? Did the waitress/wife seem flirty? And this happened in the US right?

>>767555257
>But once we got an apartment together and a puppy it kinda went to shit
God I hate how some things in theory are the polar opposite in reality
>very blunt
I think I would prefer that to deciphering hidden/subtle messages.

>>767555384
Nice.
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>>767555871
The reality is you don't truly know someone until u live with them.
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Same; asian wife is unsatisfactory in bed.

Simple solution too, no need for all this talk.

Use the daughter, if the wife isn't putting out like she needs to, train the daughter to fulfill your needs she is failing at. it's not cheating if it's her offspring.

Also, if she ever finds out, tell her its her fault because she didn't satisfy you enough, and you wouldnt spend money on whores. you didnt want to get an infection so you kept it in the household.

She might be crept with guilt her whole life. You can trollface for the rest of your life.

Also there's a chance she will never finds out and you just have fun; I think the percentage of unconfessed hidden incest is staggering compared to the cases we know about.
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>>767555187
She crochets. Lol. While I'm happy she has a hobby, I wish she would do stuff around the house. Worst part of it is when I'm done with my work week and I see all the house work that needs done I've been guilty of saying fuck it. I end up cleaning eventually tho. I refuse to have my kids in a dirty house. She's also always trying to get pets which just makes it harder on me to keep the house clean. I love her tho. I feel like I should just suck it up when I talk about our problems but I dunno.
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>>767544489
Sounds like she might be les /b/ro, either that or something is making her unhappy therefore effects the sex life
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ITT: cucks who couldn't get a human wife and had to go oriental. My wife > your chinaman dog wifes. Pic related, that's her ;)
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>>767555578
At least yours has a job anon. So she's being productive and contributing in that aspect. Mine is a stay at home mom. My kids are in school most of the day and I still can't get her to be productive. She'd rather watch TV.
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>>767556204
I thumbs ups reading that I should apply the same mindset
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>>767556204
Have you cheated ?
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>>767556243
Gianna wouldn't let u fuck her with someone else dick u mong. I went Asian because I like dark hair and dark eyes. Also, zero chance of red headed offspring. I don't pick my women based on race. I like what I like
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>>767544489
You should learn how to turn her on, faggot.
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>>767544489
Ask her what she wants, what gets her off. The more turned on she is, the more she will be into it.

Tell her you want to spice the sex up. Don't dance around it, sex is important in a long term relationship. It is always the first thing to slip.

13 years and you haven't figured out what gets her going? Have you ever made her cum?

Also if it is lackluster, has it always been? If not, maybe she is stepping out on you.
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>>767556339
Yes. I'm not proud of it. It was early in the relationship. Before we were married.
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>>767544489
Clear bait but worth a (You) for the giggles
>colorful sexual past
This is the problem:
>be massive flaming faggot
>marry heterosexual in fit of self-denial
>somehow confused that there's no sexual compatibility
Why are 70s/80s birthdays so stupid? Was it just the environment you grew up in?
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>>767556492
I have too. Since I have the yellow plauge I've gone to AMP to get my fix. Also had sex with a few Asian trans when I went over seas...
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>>767556427
>>767556487

The amount of reading you gentlemen didn't do is disheartening. Did school just get out?

It's amazing how the armchair quarterbacks can't even figure out how to get the game on the TV.

You don't even deserve tits.
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>>767550846
>>767551510
>>767552559
>>767552884
>>767552903
>>767553253
>>767553552
>>767554019
Could all of you Facebook fags please leave 4chan forever? You're somehow even dumber than the average /b/tards.
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>>767554791
How’d y’all meet? You an ex military anon? Usually Thai bitches are freakiest as they come. I mean, in Bangkok there’s a wet dream factory that pumps dreams out all over the world.
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>>767556755
>waaah
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>>767556722
My side chick was Mexican. She would wake me up with head. After I bust she would go hand roll breakfast burritos. She would bring other women in. Felt like a king. But Mexican women turn into ogres after age 35 for the most part.
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>>767544489
wife acts like a lady
the reason you married her
now you want her to be a slut
so you can end up in divorce?

did i get that about right?
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>>767556885
Like I said, this isn't Facebook, you dumb fucking nigger.
>>767556750
>2018
>acting as if pictures of breasts are rare or hard to come by on 4chan or in general
You don't even deserve oxygen.
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>>767544489
Send the kids to daycare or something and do shrooms together, put on fun music remind her to loosen up, you'll be surprised how much it will connect both of you.
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>>767556925
The woman u marry is supposed to be YOUR slut. That's why u gotta be careful and really get to know someone before u decide to put a ring on it.
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>>767556912
I'm Spanish and I can't stand Spanish woman anymore. Ever since I been with my GF. I only want Asian woman. And I have flirted with Chinese. And other Korean woman. And as long as I talk a little Korean or Mandarin. They fall in love so that's how I get myself on trouble.
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>>767556984
>waaah
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>>767556925
>did I get that about right?

Not even close. I'm not sure if you're familiar with a place called "the bedroom" which is contrasted with the not bedroom called "Everywhere else". One of those areas is good for slutty behaviour, the other is not. I've consistently wanted sluttiness in one area.

Thanks for the unincisive snark!
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>>767556986
Shrooms in Japan. What could go wrong?
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>>767557195
That's why I don't even have facebook any more my dude. I'm weak so I just stay away from that game.
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>>767556984
>muh sekrit club
xD
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>>767557011
>>767557208
>sluttiness in one area
doesn't work that way
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>>767557359
found the MGTOW
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>>767557195
Also asian women age really well. They usually keep their shape even after kids. Until they hit about 60. Then age hits then all at once and they start to shrink. This is known as the "age of the dragon"
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>>767557262
I don't use any social media. I just talk to them and if they give me there number is strictly business I just can't flirt through text.
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>>767557464
Lady in the streets, freak in the sheets.
It exists anon. Go outside more
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>>767557359
>doesn't work that way
>knows three women IRL

Okay, Pussy Destroyer. kek
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>>767557532
Was for >>767557359
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>>767557254
She's Japanese they're not in Japan you fucking faggot cuck bitchass nigger
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>>767557501
See I'm different. I can talk mad shit through text. Which is the main reason I stay away from social media
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>>767557573
I'm the OP, you illiterate. And we ARE in Japan.

The faggotry is astounding.
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>>767544489

>She wears basically men's underwear and sports bras. Nothing feminine.
>not interested in sex with you, her husband of 13 years, a male

You're dating a lesbo, buddy.
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>>767544489
My wife of ten years is Japanese and I'm Australian. Other than the underpants comment, i 100% relate to your post OP.
The sex was at least very consistent for the first 8 years. I'm noticing a decline which I'm not too chuffed about.
I don't mind that she's a bit inhibited in bed because her pussy is just perfection around my cock and she knows what she likes to get off.
Good luck OP.
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>>767557698
Says the fag that can't get his wife wet. I offered a solution drugs are everywhere, Maybe your Canadian dick is too limp , maybe the fact you can't see your feet when you look down? Maybe she's just not attracted to you, try showering more
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>>767557710
>wife lets me fuck all the time
>is lesbian

Choose one of these wisely.

Have some porn for that chromosomal thing you've obviously got.
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In case any of you want more discussion: r / deadbedrooms is relevant.
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>>767557849
>try some hallucinogens

Thanks for the input, Freud! You've been indispensable.
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>>767557671
Any pics of the wife
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>>767557464
>MGTOW
I thought about it but, while i was traveling around Asia, in my early 20s, that changed.
I have been married to an asian for 10 years
>non slut
>virgin
>very sexually conservative
>lets me be myself
>prude in public
and I let her be herself
Why would I marry someone then try to change them? no thanks.
She is the type of women who wouldn't care if a had another wife as long as i take care of them both.
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>>767558141
Shrooms are proven to cure depression, increase the love between ppl, stop PTSD . You're retarded to think antidepressants or vuagras are any diff than shrooms , the real difference is they work without side effect
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>>767558208
Fuck it.
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>>767557914

So closeted gay people in your opinion are unable to have heterosexual sex? Idiot. No wonder your chink wife doesn't want to fuck a complete retard like you.
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>>767558370
Nice Anon. She has a good shape. Good for you
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>>767558370

>dat tramp stamp

Utterly disgusting whore.
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>>767558461
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>>767558653

I'm serious. Tramp stamps are a complete turnoff for me. Only junkies and whores have them.

0/10
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>>767544489
DUUUDDDEEE SAME. I have a Japanese GF of 2 years now who enjoys sex but doesn't do much. I try do little things like have here wear things but she won't even do that.
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First post i have ever read on hear thats totally void of 15 year olds dribble.. Seems us guys are all in the same boat. Love my wife, two great kids but sex is non existent..I wont cheat on her im not that sort of guy. Tried different things, porn, toys, hollidays...nothing turns her on. Maybe its me, maybe Im not sexualy attractive to her...I dont know....
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>>767558370
She's not conservative with a tatt.
My wife would never dream of getting one bc they are the opposite of conservative in Japan.
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>>767558739
And dumb highschool decisions. She had been with one dude before I got with her. I'm not a fan of it either. But stay jelly I get to shoot my nut all over that ass
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>>767558370

>that tattoo

Jesus Christ. The Most Whitetrash Family Award 2018 goes straight to Canada.
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>>767558817
Oh no, socially she's not conservative. We both have tattoos. She's just sexually conservative
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>>767544489

I feel ya, OP.

Just had 11 year anniversary. American married to Japanese. No kids. Living in Chiba. She's uninterested in anything sexual. I have to beg to have sex (once a month if I'm lucky). It's vanilla as could be. No butt stuff, the barest of BJs, no spanking or dirty talk, barely any movement. No costumes or lingerie. If she feels like she's gonna cum, she stops... Saying it feels like she has to pee. Even if I insist I don't care if she does, she won't. She let's me come, then takes a nap. She won't let me buy her toys (excluding a tiny bullet vibrator that she occasionally uses after sex).
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>>767558801
You keep coming back here but you just now read your first thread ever completely void of 15 year olds dribble.
You don't set standards very high do you anon.
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>unable

No, unlikely.

Listen, matey...I appreciate your input. You seem smart and compassionate. Anybody should feel comfortable going to you for advice on matters of romance. I'm sure that the litany of lovers in your wake are as plentiful as they are satisfied.

I'm filing divorce papers on the strength of your assessment over an imageboard, the true diagnostic test of homosexuality.

Cheers and have some male genitals, Kinsey!
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>>767544489

Grab her by the back of the neck, stick a lubed thumb up her ass and hold her with your other fingers, and just fuck her. You're doing too much asking and bargaining, you don't do that with women. Take what you want, she will fight it but give in . If you want a blowjob, grab the back of her head and fuck her face. If she chokes, keep thrusting. Finish in her mouth without saying anything, if she pulls back grab her head and release anyway.
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>>767558966
Hey Anon like I said your woman looks good. A tattoo is just a tattoo. My girl is a vain Korean who gets facial tattoos like eye brow tattoos to fill in the gaps. And also got an eye liner tattoo cause she doesn't want to always do make up. No shame in what u got bro
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>>767559029

Yet you're still whining about your gook wife over an imageboard.

>logic: 404
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>>767558983
That sounds terrible.
I guess you have to remember that here in Japan the wife almost expects you to have some side pussy. In your case, she certainly couldn't blame you.
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>>767559088
Yeah, that's just being a bad human being. Why would I treat a person like that?
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>>767559177
Fuk off outta my thread
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>>767558817
>My wife would never dream of getting one bc they are the opposite of conservative
True
My wife thinks tattoos are dirty, and ugly.
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>>767559182
During our last discussion on it, she basically said it was OK if I had a side peice as long as she never found out. But I'm not a cheater, nor could I convincingly pull it off.
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>>767559177
More solid assists! Cheers, man! I know you've got my back!
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>>767559088
You've clearly never heard of a rape charge.
If you think that's how it works, you're a mong. Maybe 1% of females but the rest?
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>>767559128
Mine had 2 when I met her. The tramp stamp and a nautical start. Suffice to say she had shitty taste in high school
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>>767558930
I'm not arguing the tattoo isn't bad. But a dime piece with a shitty tattoo is still a 9. Only neck beards think otherwise
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>>767559253
>>767559431

You're the father of two children. You. You whiny manchild posting Asian pornography from 10 years ago. Some two half gook kids look up to you and call you their dad. Jesus fucking Christ.

I seriously feel sorry for your children.
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>>767559684

Whatever floats your boat, man. I personally don't like trashy-looking whores.
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>>767559555
My ex-wife said she was on her v-card about six months after we hooked up. No reason for her to lie.
Current wife said 4 so 12 it is.
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>>767559766
Fuck off. No one cares about your opinion.
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>>767559889

I'm serious. This is just fucking hilarious. Some Canadian moron with a gook wife of 13 years and half gook children whining about how his sex life is boring.

Grow the fuck up, man. How old are you? Fucking 30?
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>>767559889
No, but he's right. Grow the fuck up; man the fuck up.
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>>767544489
Me American, gf of 5 years Asian. Same fuckin' situation.
I keep hoping she will change but no such luck this far
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>>767559766
I know. They may go so far astray as to spend a lamentable amount of energy trying to make some strangers on the internet feel bad by calling innocent kids racist names. I'd certainly be forced to admit I made some parenting mistakes if that ever came to pass.

Anyway, thanks again for your solid contributions. Keep spreading that sunshine!
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>>767560042

You're unfit to be a father. What kind of a dad with a brain seriously asks for sexual advice on a fucking imageboard? What the hell is this? This whole thread is like a fucking stand up show. I'm cringing so hard on you right now.
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>>767559431
fuknsaved
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>>767560021
My jap ex-wife was like this. Also very self absorbed and selfish.
My Viet wife is very caring and very sexually open.
I love my wife.
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>>767559808
Well opinions are like assholes anon. But I respect yours
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>>767560216
>asks for advice

Citation?

By the way, are you an incel or just an angry Asian guy who's mad about WMAW?
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>>767560216
And who are you to judge? At least I have fucking kids asshat
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>>767558370
My GF doesn't take nudes which I like cause I know she won't be sending them out. But wish she could do something like from time to time. That's the only thing that makes her conservative
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>>767560216
Good day incel
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>>767560389
>>767560417

White guy who sees you to be an unfit father. But seriously, take a look at your posts on this thread. Look at the fucking "funny meme pics" you're posting every time you say something like "Fuck you, man" or "Keep on shining, sunshine". You're acting like a fucking child.

Grow the fuck up, man. Your wife needs a real man, not a manchild like you. Your children need a father, too. Not a fucking complete retard like you. I'm seriously feeling so sorry for your children right now.
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>>767544489
Kek. You married an asian like a beta, and now you have the sex life of a beta. Poetry.
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>>767560521
Could be worse anon. If u need pics, There's always porn. I've dated a couple Koreans. Most were like yours. Never send nudes but the ones who wouldn't send nudes would still wear freaky shit for me. Try that to spice stuff up. All the best anon.
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>>767560683
>tips Fedora
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>>767560683
>>767560720

Spotted the incel Asian men
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>>767560683
I fear I have triggered you somewhere along the way. You certainly seems to be rather upset right now.
If I may give you a word of advice, tell someone who gives a fuck.
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>>767560683
posting meme pics and profanity makes you unfit as a father?
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>>767560780
>>767560816

Hey, just telling the truth. The guy is acting like a fucking 10-year-old. What the hell is he seriously doing here? I'd stop going to this shit site the minute I became a father. Probably you two are as retarded as OP if you think he's not acting like a fucking kid.
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>>767544489
>She isn't vocal.
Who wants a Japanese girl who's vocal? They sound like a broken water pump.
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>>767560740
Thanks for the advice Anon. I'll give it a shot
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>>767560946
>stopped going
>still here
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>>767560907

I'm not the guy you're talking to but he's got a point. OP does act in a rather childish way. Perhaps he's trolling.
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>>767561028

I'm not a father?
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>>767560893

>a married father of two posting fucking meme frogs on 4chan

Jesus fucking Christ. Seems like everyone on this place are retarded, no matter if they're 14 or 40 years old.
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>>767561093
Yes you are. I can always pick em
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>>767561183
Let's agree to disagree, you swine.
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>>767560313
I'm glad you're happy now!
I've had good experience with viets. This one is cantonese. Very sheltered life thus far. I have hope, but it's fading.
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>>767544489
i could have written exactly the same. word for word except the canadian/japanese thing. seriously wtf
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>>767561285

Your gook wife is the only swine here, buddy.
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>>767561502
Keep my wife fucking out of this cunt.
Little pleb bet you'd never say that to my face.
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>>767561638

I would. In front of your face, in front of your wife's gook face and in front of your children's half-gook faces.
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>>767561428
Yeah they are like chalk and cheese.
In terms of IQ, I can see my wife is a few points behind my ex, even though she's got a Uni degree, I'm not sure they are worth much coming out of Vietnam lol.
But she has heart and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed anyways.
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>>767546148

Underrated joke

OP I think I like you.
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>>767561700
Big talk internet tough guy, but you are just that. An Internet tough guy. You are not so tough. I doubt it at least. Are you that tough?
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>>767561838

Post your Facebook here and let's meet. I'm in Toronto, bitch. Too pussy to do that, gook-fucker? Go eat noodles with your gook family.
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>>767561938
Post your Facebook here and I'll post mine. I'll meet you when I'm back in Canada next month
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>>767562108

That's what I thought; an Internet tough guy gook-fucker. Go fuck your gook wife before I do.
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>>767561938
But we need rules to the fight like no kicking in the balls like you usually do.
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>>767562181
I don't think I'm in a big hurry there. You see she's in the next room and you are on another continent.
You do see how that works, right?
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>>767544489
I lived in Japan for a few years and they’re all like this that’s why their population is declining lol why was that not a red flag
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>>767544489
That sucks.
My wife eats my ass, let's me face fuck her, anal, cum play, choking, spitting, all the fun stuff. She draws the line at humiliation and scat
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>>767562452
I don't think they are all like this, but yeah I believe that by far the majority is for sure.
There have to be some nymphs, surely.
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>>767562497
What's cum play?
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post more nips
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>>767562616
I get to cum on her where ever, she swallows, and generally plays with my cum.
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Yeah this is pretty typical. I'd say 75 percent of women are this way. Safe bets are always boring. Pretty common knowledge.
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>>767556414
i know
*kills self*
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>>767562108
You have a wife that you love and kids with said wife, my friend. I understand you being upset at the shit being flung your way, but there's really no point in getting so riled up by some fat, virginous, shit-posting, loudmouth with nothing better to do. You're above this, just don't let it get to you.

As for your wife, I know you said no advice, but just sit her down and talk to her. Let her know how you're feeling and that you aren't getting what you want from the marriage. Women are quite happy to do that when they feel emotionally neglected, so it's perfectly fine for a man to do that when he feels sexually neglected. Sex is a big part of marriage after all. If she loves you, she'll be understanding. It may not yield immediate results, but you'll sow the seeds and make her more open minded. Eventually, you may get that sex that you're yearning after.
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>>767562497
Was she always up for that, or did you have to persuade her a little bit at a time?
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Your wife is a Lesbian mister Copy Pasta
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>>767563741
Wise words
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>>767544489
You just have to eat ass
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>>767544695
>ill marry the girl and then turn her into a pig
it doesnt work like that
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>>767549343
Is this chick okay? Looks like someone took a hammer to her chest
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ITT Op that can't satisfy and Asian women
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>>767544594
how didnt the baby choked on this nipples?
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>>767563832
She has always been adventurous but I brought her to a whole new level.
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>>767563868
Coco joe. Underrated post
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>>767564389
Any advice for an anon whose gf is open minded but also quite stubborn about these things?
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>>767553721
that shits crazy, is that a mineral? Gotta find some bismuth jewelry
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>>767564680
Just be open and honest about what you want and explor it together. Don't act like it is a one sided deal. Let her explor what she ok with. It's a slow burn, you don't just get to shove your cock down her throat while slapping her in the face without trust, experimentation, and ground rules.
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>>767565150
Thanks man, I'll give it a shot. She's been a lot more open about things recently. Hell, the fact that we have sex at all is a major improvement from her initial attitude of 'no premarital sex'
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>>767565545
Remember to respect her limits. You can push things a little bit, but let her set the pace. If she does not feel safe, she will shut it down and you will be back at square one.
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>>767544489
Honestly anon get some therapy. Find a good middle ground for you two and work it out.
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>>767544489
>She'll give me a handjob or blowjob, but she seems bored and disinterested.

lucky bastard, mine wont even do this things.
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Make her watch porn and show her what a real woman does to satisfy her man.
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>>767544489
I have some very similar issues with my wife. Protip - dont berate her about it. That is counterproductive. Just do whatever you can to get to the bottom of her desires and then try to give them to her.
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>>767556984
I also enjoy venting my general unhappiness in life by posting mean things anonymously
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>>767557573
can’t be bothered to read before posting some curse words like a big boy?
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you gotta tie up that bitch bro
do it correctly or you'll look like an idiot
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>>767557849
you are actually retarded if you think he has a chance of having a positive experience with drugs while in Japan. You know you can educate yourself with the internet, right?
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>>767558326
Pretty funny that your offering advice to a person in Japan when you have zero idea about the drug culture there. It’s not some backwater american state like wherever you live
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>>767559766
he’s actually got some good banter, shut a few haters down. OP seems pretty cool for someone that posts to /b/
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>>767567002

>porn
>real woman

I, uh, don't know how to tell you this, kid, but these women are paid to do that stuff. Yeah. By the way, you've got to be over 18 to post here. So go back to your favourite flash game site.
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>>767560216
you add nothing to a discussion, you’re obviously unhappy with life and you’re apparantly envious of OP. I think it’s you who shouldn’t be having kids; thank god there’s no chance of that happening, right? :)
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