Yeah, lived in BKK for 2 years back in 2004-2006 and spent 3-6 months per year in BKK/Patts between 2007-2012. Spend a lot more time in Phnom Penh nowadays, but still love Patts. Great place to live, if you can make the move definitely recommend it.
no. you can get bj's out in the open at a couple BJ bars, but that's the closest you'll get. just take them to a short time room or your hotel.
Most of the younger-working age guys that expat in SE Asia (not counting TESL guys since they dont make shit) are either criminals, contractors, offshore workers, sales, jobs like that. plenty of stuff out there, just have to find the right fit for you.
Have had chlamydia, the clap, prolly have the herp but no symptoms. Not overly concerned about STD's. YOLO.
Niggers of Asia.
Seriously, a 6/10 white man is considered a 9/10 there. You walk the earth like a god, primarily because they shame each other for being too brown. Tourist areas are scam central. Leave those areas and no one speaks English.
This is partly true, there are good and bad things about Thailand. Overall I love the place.
Freelancers: 1000 baht short time, 1000-2000 baht long time
Soi 6: 1000 baht short time, 1000-2000 baht long time
Beer Bars: 1000-1500 baht short time, 1000-2000 baht long time plus barfine (300-500 baht)
Gogo bars: 1500-2500 baht short time, 2000-4000 baht long time plus barfine (600-1500 baht)
Gentlemens Clubs: 5000-10000 baht or some ridiculous shit.
In Phnom Penh
Hostess Bars: $30 short time, $50-60 long time up to $100 if you're a noob. Average bar fine is $10.
Freelancer: $30 usually. Up to $100 at darlin darlin at nagaworld.
KTVs: approx $100
Angeles City, Philippines
Gogo Bars: 2000-3500 peso barfines, 0-1000 peso tips (up to you)
Freelancers: Approx half that, so 1000-2000 pesos.
Thailand: 31-32 baht = US$1.00
Cambodia uses US dollars
Philippines: 52 pesos = US$1.00
It's the best place in the world to go on your own, so don't worry about it.
You could always give the girls more money if it makes you feel better. You wont get anything more for it and they'll still blow it on dumb shit, but whatevs.
Not the person your responding to, but I am an extremely indecisive person in general and often barfine multiple girls. Your assumption is largely correct, most threesomes are relative disappointments, they don't match the fantasy in any way. An exception to this is clubs that specifically specialize in threesomes, like Devil's Den in Pattaya and Edens Club in Bangkok. They are pricey (4000 baht for 90 minutes with two girls as many pops as you can handle in 90 minutes, last I went) but the girls are extremely well trained and have always had an enjoyable experience.
I figure if I'd go down that road I'd aim for two girls that seem to get along really well with each other. Like besties or something.
But...with that said. I also gotta feel comfortable with the lady too. Sex is just more enjoyable if we get along. Don't know how lucky I'd get trying to find two girls at the same time I get along with in that way.
Is there anything I can do as a foreigner that makes me stand out in a good way to the girls? I always try to respect local customs as much as possible. Or do they even really care?
Soi 7 at a coyote bar called "Bondi Bar." The one on the left messaged me that she doesn't work there anymore.
Thought it looked like soi 7. Honestly, haven't even walked down that soi in at least five years. I had heard it has gotten better after declining for so many years. Worth checking out again? I mostly hang out around Soi LK Metro/Soi Diana/Buakhao, Soi 6, and occasionally WS.
If you think half of the girls posted in this thread are ladyboys, then you have really bad ladyboy radar. Only 3 have been posted. You should probably avoid Thailand, you obviously can't tell the difference. Unless you're into that sort of thing.
I had the best time of my only trip to Pattaya on Soi 7. I never made it down to LK or the south Buakhao area, but I here that's the place to go. Soi 6 was a blast, but for me it was too pushy to spend a lot of time there.
7 had good food, prettier ladies, and a friendlier vibe. Plus it was relatively quiet in October, so I got treated... well.
Nice. Will give it another try on my next visit this summer. Are a bunch of coyote bars popping up or is it still mostly beer bars?
I don't think I'd honestly care. If I can't tell at the bar (if I'm sober) then I probably won't care back at the room. I've never gone that way myself but I think my biggest worry is making them know I'm strictly top only.
You'll have a good time regardless of when you go.
So i'm not usually one to pay for sex but i'm going to SE Asia with my fiancee for awhile, most likely Thailand for a few months.
What kind of fun can we have without getting AIDs?
Not picky. They're far more concerned about your personality. I quiet weirdo who never smiles is going scare a lot more girls than a fun fattie who makes them laugh.
The food sucks. The infrastructure sucks. But the girls are great. Have fun. As far as advice goes, I have no idea. Advice on what?
a) where should i move to?
b) what kind of work should i get into?
c) what do i do about transportation?
d) how do i become a citizen?
e) how do i get a beautiful wife who cooks and cleans for me?
Braces are a fashion thing over there, don't really get it myself. Contact lenses are also a fashion thing. Girls think they look cute, I don't know.
i mean how do these girls even know they're wealthyw? Its not like they know how much money they have directly, so these cringy looking guys could just be blowing all their savings on that one expedition.
My question is if youre an average guy, do you have access to the hottest ones? Or do the hottest ones always go for the older guys they know might have more money? Is this entire experience dictated by how much money you have and how wealthy they perceive you to be? Or do they just go for the guys they think are cute and hope they have money? I mean from how it sounds any american can go there an afford pretty much anything.
a) how the fuck would I know? move to the city you like the most
b) I don't know, go out there with some money, network with fellow expats, figure out what they are doing for money. The sleazier the expat venue, the lower the barrier to entry will be to whatever type of work they do
c) dude, what? that's not something you need to worry about
d) also something you shouldn't be worried about. what in the literal fuck?
e) that will be the easiest part. make sure you have a pulse. If you have one of those, then getting a wife wont be a problem. easiest country on the planet to get a girl.
Fuck the tips. Idiots started this stupid trend and fucked it up for everyone else along with the Koreans. BF used to be 1200-1500 pesos and thanks to fuck wads tipping, they figured they could get more for their pussy and jacked the price up, and idiots like you paid the new price and still give them tips. Somehow tippers think they are doing them a favor by tipping--stop it asshole. That worn, whored out pussy you are paying double for and then tipping to somehow make yourself feel better about nutting inside these skanks is already price inflated. I bet you don't even haggle and pay the full amount up front, don't you? And on top of that, you tip the cunt. I bet you pay the going price of trikes too, dipshit. Fuck you. Fuck you and everyone like you.
Walked around, ate, saw tourist stuff. Then, when it got intolerably hot, just went back to hotel for 2-4 hours to try to nap. Couldn't sleep super late, but that is advisable. You'll miss the worst of the weather.
Old expats are poor as fuck. Usually living on shit tier pensions, chasing balloons and happy hours. The hot bar girls already know they don't have money. The younger guys are usually the ones with money since they are still working. During the military contractor/offshore/commodity boom of the 00s/10s a lot of young loaded guys started visiting blowing a shit ton of money, so the girls are used to younger guys having the most money.
Use a nickname. Don't give out your room number. Negotiate the price of pussy. Don't fucking tip, jackass. Just treat them nice and buy them breakfast and pay for the trike home. Don't get a girl from a bar, then go back and get a diff girl from the same bar. Don't believe any of the sob stories they tell you. Act like you believe it though. Korean bars have nice girls but are pricier, they are loud with techno BS, they will ask you to buy them drinks to sit with you a la Korean style. Fuck that. Tell them you don't do juiceys. If you do see one you like, THEN buy them a beer--not a watered down 'rum' or mango juice. If you wanna fuck 2 girls, fuck 2 girls. Be nice to waitresses, hostesses, mamas, etc. It will pay off. Have fun and document your bars. If not you will drink too much and forget where that fine assed chick was or where the mood was good. Use the room safe.
I don't go to the AC anymore, I agree that it has been ruined by Koreans and LDOPs. Was merely listing the average prices nowadays. Read that dollhouse group raised BF's to 3500p. Barfines used to be guaranteed long times, now they are mostly short times, tips are expected, GFE is rapidly in decline, etc. The bar scene is just awful. I mostly just go the FL route in other cities when I go to the PI nowadays. Much cheaper and more enjoyable.
The food sucks? Nigger you must be a picky motherfucker. Chicken adobo, lumpia, and sinigan are awesome. I'll give you the infrastructure part, but fuck it, you are there for a new experience.
Do you really need to ask this? It's the same with escorts/prostitutes/etc everywhere in the world.
As long as you're fairly clean, they don't care how you look, how old you are, how much money you have in the bank, or what your dick size is. Only that you can afford them.
The best usually know they're the best and so charge the most. But that's life.
Im an Aussie living in Chiang Mai and probably go to BKK once a month for a weekend.
Edens is amazing (if you're trying to do a trip on the cheap though, you wont like it)
I make sure I stay in Soi 7 just off Nana BTS - a bit of a quiet soi between all the busy ones. BJ bar a 2 min walk away.
Ah, understand. I just get pissed when I hear of people paying top price and the tipping. I usually go to upper Fields or perimeter for the BFs. Dollhouse is good in the day for a game of pool. Voodoo's and Kokomo's are good too. GFE's were the main attraction before, but you are right, hard to come by these days. FL are good, even the disco yielded good results for me.
How bad is it really tho? ABC hotel is my favorite mongering hotel in the world and wanna go back to check out the aqua club on top at some point. But every report I have heard from friends in the last couple years have been awful.
PI was my first exposure to the P4P scene in SE Asia, lived with my uncle in Subic for a little while back when I was 15 yrs old. Probably destroyed my life, made me an addict for life, lol. Will always hold a special place in my heart. But I much prefer other places in SE Asia.
yeah all the time. happens everywhere in the world. part of the reason I don't post OC on these threads.
If you stay at the ABC, you are pegged as being flush with cash. I usually stay at the Pacific Breeze, or similar. When did you go there last? I was there last June and will be back in August. Harry the Horse used to have good reviews on his website, but I believe it was discontinued. If you are talking Aqua, then you are looking at high end bitches. It's also a large LB hang out. I've met girls late night at the Kokomo's that just wanted to be with a foreigner. Being treated nice and getting a good fuck was their only price. There are some diamonds in the rough further up the road from ABC
Don't request them, jackass. You just run into them in the course of barhopping. Usually in smaller less popular bars. And before you go running to pack your shit, underage meaning 16-17. At least in my exp in the PI
I am flush with cash. Not worried about money just worried about the overall scene in AC. Declining GFE, all that stuff.
You might be arrested. Seems kind of a stupid thing to ask for 16 yr old bar girls look and act the exact same as 18 yr old bar girls.
Damn youve really seen it change.
Well, it helps if you do have the cash, but it will be harder to find a GFE if they see you as an ATM. Yeah its changed a lot, and unfortunately not for the better. But I still love the damn place and in the middle of corruption and fucked up policies, there are still good people and places. Dude, I have a flyer from July of 1987 when 7 bars where having 4th of July parties. You bought a ticket for next to nothing pesos and you could drink 10 beers at any of the 7 locations. Every bar used to have a back room for short time fun. Fuck, now you got me waxing nostalgic. Asshole lol
Just ask how much and then negotiate. Depends on the bar some will want you to buy her a drink or 2 drinks and pay a bar fine. Ask what you can do with her, anal, cum on face etc. Generally the price range is pretty standard at each type of bar. See the guy who posted pattaya prices up thread.
I do it all the time. Usually works out fine. It would be pretty lame to spend an entire trip in Patts/BKK/PP/AC, lots of BYOP destinations in SE Asia. I usually tell all my barfines I am looking for a girl to take with me to one of the islands. Find it helps with GFE, since all of them want to go on a vacation. El Nido is nice in the PI. Krabi and Koh Chang are my preferred destinations in Thailand. Usually shoot down to Singapore and Kuala Lumpur once every couple months or so and girls jump at the chance to go there, they love it. Planning to go out to the Maldives to stay at an over the water villa at some point later this year, will definitely be bringing a bar girl with me.
This is good if you need a guide for a couple of days. Do NOT spend your entire trip with one girl, I mean, what's the point of coming to SE Asia if that's what you are going to do?
Thanks for the honest reply. The bg's I have seen that make the most money usually are the younger (18-20) and best looking. Many of these can get a bar fine almost every night.
Honestly not sure. Once it stopped being a good FL pickup joint I stopped going. They recently reopened tho, prolly comparable to most hostess bars: $1.50-$1.75. Happy hour is$0.75 most places on street 130 and 136
Yeah, Khmer girls can look latina as fuck. Here's a $10 freelancer from Walkabout I used to fuck with 10 years ago. Always thought she looked latina.
>Tourist areas are scam central
not really unless you are a real chump. They might upcharge you for some things(which is why they barter. they set a huge price and some people will pay it. others haggle) but no one is gonna scam you big, except maybe a rental place.
Thailand crime wise: Just be careful, if you are going to bring girls to your room make sure it has a safe and lock your valuables away. Some hotels will hold the girls ID till she leaves too, or photocopy it incase of problems, Don't be too drunk, flash around alot of cash etc.
Otherwise plenty of places you can enjoy the in house services.
STD's use a condom for sex.
You probably have an STD from just looking at these pictures. I would recommend going to the doctor immediately.
My last day in thailand I got whiskey dick with a bar girl. Smashing beers and tequila at her bar. Took her back to my room. Gave me a bj, tried for sex multiple times. Nothing. Then she added me on facebook.
This thread is the reason I rarely go to bars, nothing ruins my nights out like having some chink barfly try to get free drinks off me. Personally don't like oriental women, can't help but to see them as a cheap knock-offs as women.
Nothing edgy about it, when I see oriental women the first thing that comes to mind is that they're easy or reminds me too much of Thai prostitutes and I get put off by it.
kind of fucks it up for everyone else.
Exactly, and rude af. The bad part is when they bought up dozens of the bars and the greedy fucks try to squeeze every peso from the customers. PLay that hideous music, smell of kimchee
this is what white guys who need some self esteem tells themselves. theres people there who are intrigued by white people, there are people there who think all white people smell funky.
Fuckin love the ink on some of these girls.....
Would really like to meet the artists that did that work
Prices are only part of it. Before the Korean invasion of AC, barfines were automatic long times, it was actually difficult to get rid of the girls, the girls didn't expect tips, double ladydrinks didn't exist, etc. I'm actually fairly wealthy, can afford to monger in most countries, I never went to the PI because it was cheap, I went because of the attitudes of the girls. And it has definitely changed for the worse.
It was one of my favs on walking street. Still plenty of fun gogos around Patts.
Best for me is Cambodia, but that's primarily because it's my home base in SEA and I know most of the bar owners in PP so get treated extremely well. PI still prolly has the best GFE, just not in the bars in AC. FLs and straight girls. Vietnam will always have the worst attitudes, due to culture. Thailand is middle of the road.
its the girls attitudes really even if the bar owners are nice as such i found cambodia to be boring tbh maybe i was looking in the wrong place, thai was more business like, vietnam even more cold shoulde, phillipines no idea tbh i just hear theyre desperate to get out of the heat and under an ac unit lol
Doubt it. Think he is just a bar manager there. Rip off gogo, not even worth going to.
Yeah PP is pretty boring, I fly somewhere else at least once per month.
No, just very business-like, no affection, no GFE, always looking for a way to extract more money from you, etc.
PP doesn't have any gogos, just hostess bars. I'd say 30% are owned by Khmer mafia, 50% are owned by Rebels, 19% are owned by random barang who have no idea what they're doing, and 1% owned by west African scum.
Oops, just realized you were asking about Patts. I think Sapphire is Rebels. But Outlaws and Hells Angels have a presence in Patts as well. And the Thai mafia is much more involved in farang businesses in Thailand.
Just realised you meant the bikie gang. For a minute there I thought you meant both countries are in open rebellion and the freedom fighters are funded by prostitution rings.
Also I don't know what barang and farang are.
I don't think I could fap to any of these girls or pictures, but this thread is extremely fascinating. The whole southeast Asia sex tourism thing is just so far removed from anything I've ever experienced
I think sexpats in Thailand should be very worried. The fertility rate is down to 1.5 and the average age of bargirls continues to creep up and up, soon it will be 35 or even higher. The country is quickly losing its appeal, that premium quality grade A meat is almost gone
The fertility rate in the Philippines is rapidly declining but is still at 3 and demographic momentum alone should ensure a fresh stock of farm fresh girls every year for at least the next fifty years and even longer with an effective kleptocracy holding the country back from genuine economic development
Fertility rate in Cambodia is down to 2.6 but the rapid urbanization rate keeps on bringing them farm fresh hotties into the city. As long as Hun Sen doesn't do some stupid shit, should have a great future.
Interesting perspective. Thailand is also developing more quickly than the other two countries, there are more jobs for an 18yr old girl than previous. Cambodia and Phils not so much,
The girls are nice, the audience is utterly disgusting
who wants to put his meat somewhere a 70+ yo had his (highly probably unprotected) fill?
seems like thailand is the only way for white losers and retirees to get some pussy
Heu expats and sextourist or generally victims of yellow fever. I 32yo working as salesman from TX. Im single so i thinking about to try it out. Now tell me what preparations must i do and what could i expect if i lets say stay a month in Thailand?