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So just because men who are driven to insanity by their own high expectations on women (based on the expectation women impose on men in the first place), they get lonely, depressed, angry, then vengeful to the point they go drive into crowds of women or shoot them up.

But Single Mothers on the other hand, despite being those same women (before birthing their kid) who set those same expectations, instead chose a "chad" to mate with instead, then the chad leaves her, then she's either living on welfare with a kid in tow, clogging up the courts suing for alimony, or leeching off someone which essentially chips away at any person's or country's economy....or she winds up working 3+ menial jobs (after losing all her life-prospects when she was in her prime) just to keep the bills paid, the child is raised with little or no morals or ethics because of non-existant parenting, and winds up being a thug killing others for gains, or just another breeder that continues the cycle.

Sure it's easy to point out a misogynist psychopathic villain who directly kills people out in the open, and watch it on MSM because the incident is short and sweet and basic enough to put into a 24 hour news cycle.

But a single mother through her bad choices from the same type of high expectations as Incels have, the overall damage to infrastructure and society is more severe and hidden in the bigger picture. It's a process you can't cut down and explain in a cycled news segment. .....these people get a "pass"?

Quite a double-standard, imo.....
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Why do you hate women, OP?
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>>767479623
Most neckbeard thing iv read in months, congratz op!!
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>>767480051
Why you do hate "real, nice" men?

>>767480222
No seeing a counter argument....must mean I'm right, thanks for the gratz...
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>>767480222
found the cuck!
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>>767480334
>Why you do hate "real, nice" men?
Because I'm not an insecure misogynist who blames his problems on single women struggling to raise a child.
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>>767480472
Found the feminist!
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>>767480472
Who says I'm blaming my problems on single mothers?
Did you read the post? Can you even read? It's written in the tone of a neutral stance outside the issue.

>struggling to raise a child.
...and who's fault is that? The "insecure misogynist" who you (re: single mother) didn't give the time of day too before you had a kid? The Incel's seed never made it into the womb, the single-mom sought that it never did.
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>>767479623
I was raised by a single mother, who was a cunt and I can see why she was single. I was treated like shit pretty much all my life, at home, school, street life, and despite all of this I have turned out morally OK.
my life prospects are fucked, no qualifications, career, own home, family ect, but I haven't turned to leeching off other people and stealing, lying or cheating for a way of life.
Obviously, i am white though. I genuinely don't think niggers have the ability of introspection and taking control of their behaviour.
it is more of "white mans fault" finger pointing.
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>>767479623
I agree with op. Your choice to have a child at a young age with an incompetent asshole is your fault and your fault alone.
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>>767479623
Incels. You won't win. You just keep losing.
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>>767480334
This is not debate class you tiny faggot.

Type some more about how you don't get pussy, maybe it'll get you some pussy.
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>>767480796
>Who says I'm blaming my problems on single mothers?
You did with that long speech about how women won't have sex with you and you're buttblasted that they only want to have kids with real men.
>...and who's fault is that?
The patriarchal system of oppression which was built by incels like you.
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>>767481052
>Incels. You won't win. You just keep losing.

That's the double standard.

Incels aren't saddled with un-wanted babies, instead they're saddled with loneliness, leading to depression, leading to angry misgony, leading to violence.

Single-mothers who chose their mate with high-expectations, lose hard as well, and cause more damage to society than a 'flash-in-a-pan' shoot out.

Both are losers, imo.

Except, again, no one wants to talk about the real damage single-motherhood does.
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>>767481109
Stop tricking yourself that you get pussy yourself.
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>>767479623
Before we begin our next phase, I would like to take some time to address a rumor floating around. Some of you have come to believe that I like war. I wish to dash these rumors. I do not like war. I LOVE war. Through my life, I have discovered so many forms of war. You get up in the morning, you get into your shitty car, and you see a rich CEO who works half as hard as you do drive down the street in his Porsche. Class war. You make it to work, and you find out that the annual drug test is today. And you just so happened to take a puff of your one-hitter a couple nights ago before dinner with your wife's awful parents. Drug war. But then, you find out that the only ones being called in for testing are your black and Hispanic co-workers. Race war. Then, you try to post about it on your Facebook, but then all your friends start arguing about what's right and what's wrong. Flame war. You finally get home, and you decide to relax by watching a program about: "Who gets the box?" "What's in the box?" "How much is what's in the box worth?" Storage Wars. What I am telling you is that I am a purveyor of war. And with your help over the years, we are now at the precipice of our true goal. You see, I want a simple war. No class wars, no drug wars, no race wars, no flame wars... and certainly, no Cold Wars! What I want is a war that only we can bring. A true war! The sequel you've all been waiting for! I WANT WORLD WAR THREE!!!
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>>767481286
Sure kid.

Lack of real empathy is a show of autism.
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>>767479623
Sounds like Dad fucked your little butt then ran away.
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>>767479623
Incels aren't people. They are literally human garbage.
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>>767479623
Keep typing
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>>767480334

>I'm not seeing a counter blah, blah, blah

Oh, shut the fuck up. This isn't a classroom, where we sit and discuss important issues with an open mind. This is fucking /b/ and if you're here, then you should know what a stupid fucking argument you just made. We don't owe you a debate. We don't owe you anything. You made a stupid fucking post about how men and women are both idiots and you what, want to debate that now? Why? Who cares?

You know what though, fine. I'll toss you something small for that tiny little brain of yours to chew on for a bit between a trip to Mac's to replenish your Mountain Dew and playing the next round of Fortnite. Expectation is nearly always a bad thing. Nearly always. And you can take that concept and apply it to things that have much further reaching effects than single mothers, or this idiotic Incel thing; as if we need a fucking word for people who can't get laid, what a joke. Go outside. Meet some people. See how the world works. Realize that expectation is a terrible thing and that accidents happen, life is complicated and people aren't 100% stupid. Challenge your own ideas before you parrot them for the unwashed masses to hear. Start by getting the fuck of /b/, you clearly have no idea what you're doing here.
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>>767481224
>you're buttblasted that they only want to have kids with real men.

"Real men", who aren't in the picture? Who left the mother for numerous selfish reasons? who doesn't take responsibility for his actions?...that's a "real man"?

lol, k

>The patriarchal system of oppression which was built by incels like you.

How wrong you are....since every step taken towards the birth of your child was all you're doing. You chose the "real man" (lol), you chose to keep the baby,

Blame the "patriarch" all you want, I suppose it's better than taking responsibility for your own actions. I mean, you're destitue situation in life can't be any worse, if truth of the matter becomes a factor, right?
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>>767481396
resorting to using "autism" as an excuse, is autism.
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>It's a process you can't cut down and explain in a cycled news segment.
Bro, these processes can be cut down, just require some radical change. I can name you 5 leaders in history that would not have settled for this shit.
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>>767479623
don't forget normal people please
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Instead of running people over, we as men should just rape more women. If we instill enough fear into these cunts, it will quickly kill the #MeToo movement and make things better for us men. If there are any that think they are brave enough to speak out, those ones should be targeted and killed. Just to show any others that we will not tolerate that shit as men in this world.
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>>767479623
You must be like 12. If you think you're entitled to a virginal Nordic princess who never speaks.

I am both a divorcee and remarried to someone with kids. It is not worth it to raise a child with someone you don't love.

Guess what? You're not the same person at 18, 22, 28, 32, 40. Sometimes people grow apart or make mistakes.

Maybe don't just hold it over there head because you can't talk to a woman.
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>>767481752
>remarried to someone with kids
lol, cuck
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>>767481433
I bet you have some pretty wild fan fictions! Go ahead, sample us a paragraph!
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>>767481752
Talk less about me, and more about the horrible choices you made in your life, and maybe someone on this thread could get a clue.....
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>>767481549
>Still not seeing a counter-argument

You seem angry, that you're deflecting logic with insults,

Look if you can't measure up to the debate, don't post...that easy.

>who the fuck are you to write the rules of /b/, faggot?
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>>767481745
I wouldn't go as far as 'rape women'.

Maybe advocate to make prostitution legal.....
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>>767480907
this
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>>767479623
Single mothers exist because their moms didn't tell them virginity is a value and sex is the natural way for procreation (and condoms are at most 95% effective against impregnation and STDs).
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>>767480222
waste of trips cuck
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>>767482044
>Maybe advocate to make prostitution legal
Yes, I agree. I have no need for a women other than sex. I'm highly successful and have a lot of wealth. They're useless to me. I play the stupid dating game, but since I'm an average looking guy, they all seem entitled to having prince charming. I have yet to find one that doesn't want to leech off me and I've been wasting my time trying to do the whole mating dance for them. Online dating it's self has become oppressive to men. Paying someone attractive enough to my standard money to simply have sex with them and be done with the affair should be my right.
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>>767481604
You've convinced me. What I really need is a lonely autistic overweight unemployed neckbeard who types up paragraphs of text rationalizing his virgin status on a misogynistic forum. What's your number? I must have your babies inside of me.
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It is true that women are the ones who set the moral tone for a society.
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>>767482501
Absolutely not.
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>>767479623
Shut up pussy
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>>767482472
>What I really need is a lonely autistic overweight unemployed neckbeard who types up paragraphs of text rationalizing his virgin status on a misogynistic forum. What's your number?
>assumes I'm an Incel.


Well, based on your based requirements, I can't help you there....sorry.
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>>767482605
no u
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>>767482501
According to this thread.

A lot of angry women rather throw around misogynistic labels around, instead of accepting the responsibility for their choices. And truly understand they cause more damage to society than an "extreme Incel" in the long run.
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>>767482797
They don't actually cause damage though, what are you talking about. In your opening post you used niggers as an example so that doesn't really prove your point.
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>>767482472
Please don't procreate.
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>>767479623
Its biology. They would rather thier offspring have chad genes. everything else is secondary.
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>>767481549
OP has a really good point.

I agree with OP that if you clearly don't raise your kid properly and he does something really bad, its part fault off the parents.
They have a resposibilty.

Expectation is something that come's forth out of many things. Its good to have a expectation as a standart.

Look at woman in the year 1950.
The expectation and moral was to be a good loyal wife. Who could support the family.

Now we don't have expectations, we don't say anymore to woman how they should act.
And look at our world now.
We have people like miley cyrus, in a slut costume playing with the microphone as a didlo. Children listen to that music.

Our woman became sluts with no dignity, and no values driven by femism to seek power over men. That is what happens when you don't set expetations.

(you tell this anon to go outside, yet you don't see the point that is easly spotted if you go outdoors)
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>>767483559
None of the things you list are an issue. Miley Cyrus dances in a slut costume who the fuck cares.
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>>767482951
>They don't actually cause damage though, what are you talking about.

Where does welfare come from then? You really pays their bills? Over-population is an issue as well, and sooner or later more money from taxes will pay for them as well.

The kid will get sick one day, right? Mom needs coverage right? Who's going to pay for that too?

Food stamps? .....the list can go on and on and on......multiply the cases, with the number of single mothers, then multiply again by the number of children a single mother produces.

...and if the father doesn't pay through alimony and child support, then who does?.....

You, Me, and everyone else.....taxpayers

>In your opening post you used niggers as an example so that doesn't really prove your point.

How so? Nigger or White-trash, they're all breeders with too high expectations; the same problem Incels have as well.

The black single mother in the picture probably though her black-chad was going to be another "Rapper crawling from the ghetto to be the next Jay-Z", never though to settle with the factory-worker who can pay his bills, right?

Same story with white women too, no need to play the race-card here.
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>>767483810
whores = polyamory. Any species in nature that practices polyamory has a wide gender diversification. You want to fight for equality, stop supporting women being whores.
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>>767484133
>Where does welfare come from then?
Incel losers like you, lol. Keep slaving away to pay for my kids and cry about it, pathetic faggot. I bet you wouldn't be complaining if at least one single mother out there somewhere was raising one of your kids but there isn't one because you're an incel loser who can't get laid.
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>>767484286
Incels who can't get their dicks wet are not oppressed and we don't need to fight for their equality. You can run as many people over with Vans of Sexual Frustration as you want it's not going to change that.
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>>767483810
>Miley Cyrus dances in a slut costume who the fuck cares.

Again, it comes down to the taxpayer.

Miley is a textbook for poor morals, and there is potential risk during single-mother upbringing.

Again, single-mother is out probably doing multiple shit jobs at Wal-Mart or McDonalds to pay the bills the Chad-father wouldn't pay.

The child itself is being raised by day-care professionals good at gouging their rates; they don't care about contributing to the child's upbringing.

Later in life, that child will discover the "Miley Cyrus" of their generation, slutting it up with party music, creating a false utopia of high-life living through materialism.

That child grows up being that very same slut, with high expectations, looking for her own "Chad",.....but falls into the same trap as her mother did, as she births the Chad's kid, and watch him walk away.
>the cycle continues.

If it was a male child, they'd probably become the jerk-wad Chad that would knock a girl up, then split because that's all he knows as well.
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>>767484638
I never made the statement I was an Incel. Your assumptions are of bad taste. Plus I fail to see what how my statement has anything to do with supporting Incels.
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>>767479623
Make abortion easier. Wow, I solved that world problem fast...
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>>767481327
>No u
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>>767484910
Allowing abortion solves some of the problems, including dropping crime rates. What about all the trash that mates and has some religious bullshit excuse to not abort their contribution to the declining gene pool.
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>>767484754
Capitalist greed is a bitch. What we need is to introduce socialism in the United States.
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>>767481433
Wouldn't he hate men? And be like... a feminist?
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>>767484388
>Keep slaving away to pay for my kids and cry about it, pathetic faggot.

Proving my point.

Single-Mothers are just as 'evil' as the Incels are.

Thanks.

>I bet you wouldn't be complaining if at least one single mother out there somewhere was raising one of your kids

I wouldn't be an Incel if I was able to knock you up in the first place....

....so yeah, make some sense retard.

>you're an incel loser who can't get laid.

Well, the problem with Incels is that they are too cowardly to discover the "truth" about women, and just go and rent a women instead to get laid.

Or find you're Tinder profile and talk to you about how "I wish I could find a down-to-earth women, who got her shit together, and doesn't care she's a single-mother, blah blah, honeypotting, blah.....you'll be sucking my dick for months trying to get my into my gains.

I'm a loser? No whore.......not by a longshot.
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>>767483810
Why don't you read the post i replyd on?

>>767481549

That anon thinks expectations are of no value and are almost always bad to have.
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>>767485094
This entire thread is an argument in favor of communism lmao

Universal basic income when?
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So I see /b hasn't fucking changed. Good to be back lads.
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>>767485698
o yes it has, this thread is the only one i saw with some good morals and non porn.

NOrmaly its fucking shit. Like diary shit.
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>>767485876
>good morals
What's changed is we're flooded with cuckservatives who are literally banned everywhere else on the internet because they're still stuck in the 19th century and no one has the patience to school their dumb asses.
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>>767479623
what about the system that is destroying the health of the youth and making people unattractive?
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>>767485329
>That anon thinks expectations are of no value and are almost always bad to have.

Expectations are subjective.

Too high of expectations is what often leads to disaster. Sure he might look like Brad Pitt (in his prime), but they'll ignore everything else to fit the Ken n' Barbie fantasy that plays in their head.

But suggesting to lower those expectations on /b/, show how retarded women are when they go to the extreme polar-opposite and assume lowering those expectations means dating a fat smelly "neckbeard".

No one ever says (when lowering expectations) to go from 10/10 to 1/10 or lower. They're saying "be real, and shoot for the 7s or 8s and put some substance in that style."

But the dumb bitches out there still go for the 10/10, and find out how scummy they are when they leave after she's pregnant.
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>>767485453
Just will become another tool of oppression.
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>>767486278
>what about the system that is destroying the health of the youth and making people unattractive?

A paradox

What came first, Chicken or the Egg?

Single mothers on the system?

Or an over-burdened system on single mothers?
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Hilarious how no one on this thread disproved any part of the argument.

Just a bunch of kicking and screaming over the truth.
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>>767487446
>being this retarded
You never made an argument, all you did was try to shift the blame onto women.
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>>767487705
You can't fight for your precious equality and continue to blame EVERYTHING wrong on me.
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>>767487822
Capitalism is the true enemy of equality.
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>>767487705
>You never made an argument, all you did was try to shift the blame onto women.

What was the argument then?

Even if it was "shifting the blame", are you saying single-mothers are victims?

The irony you present is hilarious.
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>>767488069
Dude all you did was explain the dynamic by which things go to shit. You're not offering any solutions that don't simultaneously involve catering to incel faggots.
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>>767488008
Lack of drive should not get compensation.
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>>767488234
>muh ideals
I thought the objective was to not expose children to poverty so they don't grow up to become thugs.
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>>767482284
top kek
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>>767488199
>Dude all you did was explain the dynamic by which things go to shit.

.....over the SAME high expectations on relationships both genders impose on each other. The only real difference is the genders between, and the different set of consequence each of them experience.

>You're not offering any solutions that don't simultaneously involve catering to incel faggots.

So if a clown told you that 1+1=2, is the clown wrong for being a clown? That's a fallacy.

If an "Incel" (or other objectionable people) spoke of a grain of truth to this argument, you rather stay prideful over your mistakes, and resort to insults to deflect that truth?
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>>767488580
Expectations are the whole point, my degenerate incel friend. You can't just force women to suck your dick because "think of the children." It's much more ethical to dismantle the patriarchy and replace it with universal basic income.
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>>767479623
Here you go OP. This is for you! Hang in there buddy ~_>!
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>>767488926
>Expectations are the whole point, my degenerate incel friend.

Refer to >>767486424

>>767488926
>You can't just force women to suck your dick because "think of the children."

Who's forcing women? If anything, they just want you to give them the time of day. They played to your rules and expectations and didn't even a pat on the head for trying. Instead of acknowledging them, you ran to the Chad, and got treated like shit with 18 years worth of consequences to boot.

If they wanted to get their dick sucked, all they had to do was lower their standards and get a hooker, just for that. But what they really wanted was a relationship, to take care of someone and for someone to take care of them.

But because of constant rejections, by those who now become single-mothers (and the burdens they now suffer).....I'm betting some of those men revel in the karmic justice of it all.

>It's much more ethical to dismantle the patriarchy and replace it with universal basic income.

Yeah, that's not going to work well for anyone....
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>>767490253
"Chad" has superior genetics. Get over it.
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>>767489685
Aww thanks

Here's one for you.

Don't worry, I'm betting the line will shorten....in time....soon.....because women will start to make right choice based on their expectation.....lol....
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>>767490448
Cowardice is good genetics?
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>>767490552
Project harder, loser. Only the best men get to reproduce. That's just how it works. Grow up already.
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>>767490753
Project what?

A single mother chose the Chad to breed with, but he chickened out of fatherhood (cuz responsibility)....."fight or flight" is a genetic disposition.....and you chose to breed with that kind of genetic?

Sounds like you're the loser, baby mama.
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On the topic of incels, did something stir the incel nest lately? There sure seem to be an awful lot of OPs with the same bitter rhetoric posting more and more lately.
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>>767490991
You've spent so much time in your incel community echo chambers you actually started to believe your own bullshit.
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>>767491331
as opposed to thinking Chad's are genetically superior?

...riiight.
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>>767491275
Something must have happened, since feminist are throwing misogyny labels around like it's candy.

>status quo
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>>767491452
>Chads are not superior, what you need is a strong independent neckbeard
Holy shit incels really are the male equivalent of radical feminists.
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>>767491650
...and single-mothers too; you forgot that part.
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>>767481745
I agree, rape rate in America is way too low and it'll wake these cunts the fuck up. But too many of you resort to porn. Once internet porn at least is cut out, expect more irl rape
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>>767490753
lol
https://www.economist.com/news/international/21725553-more-adults-are-not-having-children-much-less-worrying-it-appears-rise
>75% of men, have children
>similar to numbers for women
>best = top 3/4
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>>767491986
why'd you lol
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>>767479623

Aaaaaaaaaand your point is? Right. You’re angry at the unfairness of life. Welcome to the club. Angry/confused at societies way of treating women differently. Right. Advice? Block all this misery out and focus on YOU. Find something that interests you and try to make a living at it. Be realistic though. If/when you make it. This bottom-feeder shit will not matter to you. Regret is hell. Start right now.
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>>767491726
except they're not. radical feminists are blue haired landwhales that no one wants to dick so they try to force fat roastie acceptance onto society in the hopes one day someone will knock them up which of course never happens just like the incel revolution will never happen.
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>>767486617

Welfare was supposed to be a temporary safety net, not a fucking long-term lifestyle. Hard consequences. Able-bodied, don’t work? You get nothing. Whoops, I got pregnant and can’t take care of the child? No more. Sterilized. More planned parenthood, government provided contraception. Enough.
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>>767492522
whos that guy
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>>767492784
so more restrictions on welfare for those who need it?

.....gg single-mothers.
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>>767479623
Agree with op.
I'm no incel,mgtow or any other acronym.
Calling people on their bullshit isn't hate speech or misogyny.
I see what he See's
And its only becoming more prolific.
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>>767494352
>I'm not an incel/mgtow but I agree with everything they say
kys
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>>767494725
No sir, you "kys".

...but I'm betting you're just another jaded single-mother over-burdened with unwanted children, you're already experiencing the slow-drip of dying.

>Nice try, and R.I.P.
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>>767495033
joke's on you, I'm a male feminist.
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>>767480472
>jews fuck you over
You are jusy blaming your problems on jews!
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>>767479623
>come on 4chan with serious, but rational commentary

>get childish dumbass responses

Lesson learned OP
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>>767495141
>I'm a male feminist.
>joke's on you
>irony
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>>767481549
Jesus do you make Instagram motivational pictures you fucking inbred donkey? You are so unoriginal I cannot believe you have the have the brains to find this site.

>"Keeping it real" by [Insert personal attack here]
>"Gonna tell you the truth now" by [Insert the most general of generalities here that makes me feel good about saying it]
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OK guys, I think I can fix this

>set up incel loser and used-up single mom on date
>prep them before hand by telling saying the guy is a normal adult and the woman isnt a mom
>end of date reveal the truths
>at this point, if they turn back, they piss on their only shot to escape the loneliness that consumes them
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>>767496446
10/10

make it happen
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