There is no reason you need to own a gun.
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
There is no reason you need to own a gun.
>>767280853
you're right, i simply need to borrow one in order to shoot you, i don't need to actually own it
good point, op, now hold still while i load this thing
I need a gun to show what an amazing hypocrite I am by deriding gun-free zones as a way for gun-owners like me (but like ME, of course) to easily kill children, and then completely pussy out by agreeing to a gun-free zone for Mike Pence to come talk to me.
>>767280853
you should buy a gun and kill yourself with it
>>767280974
go back to sucking hillary's dick
>>767280853
ONLY A ASSHOLE FAGGOT WOULD SAY THAT,KILLYOURSELF
>>767280853
As people live more closely together, logistics change, as they life further apart, logistics change.
I can understand guns in the country, gun control in the city, but since the two are just an hours drive apart, that’s silly.
You’re never going to get rid of guns in America.
>>767280853
liberals: NOBODY NEEDS A GUN
liberals: SUICIDE IS A HUMAN RIGHT
75% of gun deaths are suicides
liberals: TAKE THEIR GUNS, THEY MIGHT HURT SOMEBODY
#AllTheyWantedWasToAnHero
>>767281202
I don’t think that stat about suicide is correct.
>>767280853
>There is no reason you need to own a gun
However, it is a Constitutional right to own a firearm. The NRA is an organization that protects your civil and Constitutional rights. If protecting your God-given rights is a terrorist act, then so be it.
>>767281239
you're right, it's only 60% of all gun deaths are suicides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
>>767281202
#AllTheyWantedWasToAnHero
You know, in my country we don't have guns, we have really strict regulations on them and there are like 0 school shootings, terrorist attacks or things of the sort. Most other countries are like that.
It gets really stupid when you get a bunch of paranoid rednecks with guns together. To me it's an irrational thing to do, to most people who live in normal ass countries it is.
>>767281397
#AllTheyWantedWasToAnHero
>>767281428
which country? I really want to look up and compare violent crime statistics and shove your false logic back up your urethra, you knife and blunt object wielding savage
>>767281569
#AllTheyWantedWasToAnHero
>>767281569
Romania, most crimes are comited by politicians.
>>767281428
>in my country, we're slaves to the state
>no, seriously, the people in charge can do whatever they want to us and we can never, ever fight back
Lick that boot, peasant.
>>767281428
We have the strictest gun laws in the world here in the US. Our laws say you can't murder someone. Therefore we have no gun crime in the US because there is a law against it. If that law isn't working, it's not the fault of the gun. We need to pass another law that says "Murder is illegal for real guise."
>>767280853
Maybe for safety purposes, but i just want a gun so i can end my life. Living in Sweden (North) and wanting to die is hard tbh.
>>767281686
If you have delusions of grandeur about winning a war against the government, I got bad news for ya>>767281686
>>767281686
You're not gonna shoot trump dude, and if you do hillary will take his place so it's a lose/lose.
>>767280853
There is no reason you needed to start this thread, but here we are.
>>767280853
ever heard of home protection numb nuts?
>>767281817
Hillary will take his place???? Don't you mean Mike pence will take his place. Still a lose/lose
>>767280853
>There is no reason you need to own a gun.
There is no reason for OP to be a faggot either.
>>767281635
Sorry if I can't take statistics from your country seriously, gypsies are just too good at covering things up and, ya know, blaming the law of the land for the fact that they can't fucking behave.
>>767280853
How will I hunt then
?
>>767280853
Oh, good.
I can rape your women, kill everybody in your house hold, and steal everything on your property I can get my hands on.
Criminals like me need more people like you to convince the weak and gullible that guns aren' necessary. Makes my job, and my life that much easier.
>>767282239
The problem is that you weren't born into doing those things like >>767281635 over here. You'd make too many mistakes and get caught, and people would say look! The Americans are just violent. Meanwhile europoors have been used to having no money to buy food, let alone guns and ammo for generations. That's the real reason they advocate gun laws, they just want us to be on the same level as them, a country of regressive and barbarous vagrants living off of handouts and thievery in a psuedo-socialist hellhole
>>767282644
would this nigga please buy a jacket that actually fits ffs I love the guy but damn he be lookin like he stole that out his daddies closet
>>767281428
So people don't shoot each other.
But what about all the other ways of killing each other?
Are you going to ban knives? Ropes? Automobiles/buses/trains?
Are buildings going to be built in such a way that you can't murder somebody by pushing them out of a window or off of a roof?
Does your country have mandatory conscription? What about the soldiers who are trained in hand to hand combat, and can kill another person with their bare hands? Are you going to cut off people's hands next?
Gun or no gun, if somebody is going to commit murder, they don't need a gun. You're country and your laws are stupid, and only foster a violent criminal element.
All one has to do is look at how well the ban on guns is going in Australia. People have found more effective, clever ways to kill each other there, and the black market for guns is through the roof.
>>767281635
Have they outlawed vampires, yet?
They don't need a gun to kill you, and make you a part of their minions, you know.
They just bite you on the jugular vein and suck out all of your blood.
Boy, i'll bet the sales of garlic and mirrors are sky rocketing! (Not to mention crucifixes and stakes)
>>767281569
I live in a country with no mass shootings, no terrorist attacks, a few gun crimes. And we have the second most guns per citizen in the world. Why is that? Gun regulation
>>767280853
There is no reason you need to own a computer
>>767283357
You cant commit mass murder with a computer...
>>767280853
>bill of needs
You're never going to win this one, you stupid nigger. Have my one and only bump though because of the consistent, day-to-day effort. I hope you're getting paid to be a faggot.
>>767283397
>implying
>>767283472
Actualy this is interesting. Is it highpotheticaly possible to kill more than 4 people with a computer just like this? On the streets.
>>767283677
Hypothetically, yes. Would be easier to use any number of other things to kill more than 4 people on the streets. Guess we should ban all that shit too
>>767284123
Nah. Y banning all things? Just ban things that are easy to kill with. Like idk... Guns?
>>767284259
...and cars
>>767280853
OP thinks criminals don't exist
OP smert
NOT
op actually BIG GAY
HA
GOTEM
"The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed."
Bait thread.
Anyone opposed to gun ownership is objectively wrong. Simple as that.
>>767281817
That ain't how the political system works
>>767281817
>if you do hillary will take his place
underage b&
>>767284259
>>767284329
And knives, and bows, and chlorine, and ammonia... diesel fuel, ammonium nitrate fertilizer, the list goes on and fucking on.
I like how average anti-gun fuckwits are usually the ones who bitch about overpopulation and how humans are so detrimental to nature and everything good
>>767284821
Why are you always bringing up that argument? Just give me a good reason why it is ok for you that thousands of people die every year so you and other brainless wannabe rednecks can have a military grade rifle at home. For what purpouse?
>>767280853
You are the best reason for anyone near you to own a gun.
>>767285076
>military grade
>>767280853
And there is nothing you can do about me owning a gun.
>>767280853
tell that to the niggers shooting eachother in the streets every day
>>767285248
>The Colt AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56×45mm, [...] It is a semi-automatic version of the United States military M16 rifle.
>>767285076
Why don't you give a reason to take away a right that saves hundreds of thousands of lives every year?
>>767285076
Ooh boy, here we go. I can tell you don't have wild boars in your area, the fuckers are aggressive, fucking dangerous AND they travel in packs, and gooood fucking luck putting one of those down without a rifle. 2, they aren't military grade, these rifles are made with the civilian market in mind and are missing one of the defining features of a military rifle chambered in 5.56, 5.45, 7.62x39, etc. Fully automatic fire.
And for the record. I am in favor of some controls, but not on the guns themselves, you wanna regulate anything? Regulate who can carry them, have it so that if you want a gun, you have to go through a mental wellness test to make sure you aren't a psycho who'll shoot a school up. Have your guns be in a secure area where a child can't get access to it, etcetc, but I am not going to let your fears get in the way of my rights, not only to own a firearm, but to hunt with them and defend my life, my family, and my friends.
>>767285416
Fucking buzzwords, jizzface.
Bolt guns were once military issued (and still are to some degree). Does that make the average hunting rifle "military grade" as well?
>>767285772
Not in todays times.
>>767285416
Funny thing, that. The AR15 was designed for the civil market before the M16 was even put into service, hell, they had a bigger caliber version of it in production since the 50s, the AR10
>>767285654
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3
>>767285758
Regulation. That is it. Thats what we need and is logical. I dont want to take away guns of farmers or hunters or people using their gun in sports. But i dont see a reason why every 18 year old can buy a rifle without a mental health check and a loose background check in walmart.
And yes i have noars in my area. I live in a small village. And as i said. Everyone in my country (or almost everyone) got a rifle. But to get that, you have to complete military training or do a mental health test and take courses at the police. This is how it should work. But dont give stupid ass niggers guns.
>>767285864
So how is a semi-auto rifle "military grade"? Because it looks like the same?
>>767286014
>The Colt AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56×45mm, magazine-fed, gas-operated semi-automatic rifle. [...] It is a semi-automatic version of the United States military M16 rifle.
Not because it looks the same. But because it IS the same. Just without full auto.
>>767285758
well we do have a lot of boars, here , and we still do not need miliutary grade weapon, hunting long rigfles are more than enough.
Hunting rifles that you can load with 2 bullets, then have to break to relaod, that is more than enough, you still need a hunting licence (easy to get) but certainly CANNOT go on a rampage with such a weapon, it's a DPS problem lol. The rednecks' hunting argument is only useful to point mentally challenged rednecks retards like you.
>>767286013
can't at Wal-Mart anymore they upped the age to 21
>>767280853
YOU have no conception of REAL history. So let the adults talk and GTFO out OP.
>>767286094
Flimsy as fuck argument
>>767286094
There are a lot of differences between semi-auto and full auto
>>767280853
>reason you need to own a gun.
Jews like OP
>>767280853
>need
>being this retarded
>>767286262
At least something. Still sad. Everytime i see some 10 year old kid trying to shoot with papas shotgun in the woods while the parents stand next to it with a beer in the hand, and the kid completely fucks up when it comes to weapon safety or shooting, i have to laugh. Because you stupid fags still think that a right (that was written in a time where cities were across the country and farmers lived in the wilderness and needed the gun) is an excuse for selling weapons to mass murderers.
>>767286343
>mini14
oh yeah, the same gun that was used by Breivik to kill 69 people at Utoya.
>>767286352
Oh you mean the diffrence between "keep the trigger pulled" and "pull the trigger after every shot"?
>>767286496
Hey, it's not "military grade" though
>>767286496
samefagging here.my argument was orignally meant to be against assault weapon control.
>>767286173
Oh yeah, I know we don't NEED them to live a healthy existence. But believe it or not. It isn't the damn gun that's the problem, it's who HAS the guns. I don't want these in the hands of school shooters any more than you do, but I've shot these things for damn near half my lifespan at this point and I know that they're only dangerous in the wrong hands, which is why I am perfectly fine with more extensive background checks and mental health checks by a psychiatrist before someone can buy a gun.
>>767280853
Don´t most Murican think that the state should not have to much power that is why you have "the right to bear arms" to fight the government... or is that some wierd thing i heard about?
>>767280853
I don't care how many things get banned, how hard you force people to wear seat belts and helmets, how many sharp corners on furniture you round off, how many hard surfaces you pad, millions of people are going to keep dying.
Welcome to reality. Bitch
>>767283397
Are you kidding? The power of words starts wars and religions, and now you can send them to almost anyone and say anything. Maybe you and everyone but government employees should be monitored to protect the general public and have word filters installed, lest you bring uprisings and crime waves by speaking to unsavory people with banned words.
>>767286606
Aight. At least one who thinks the same.
But the problem are the rednecks, as we can see in this thread, who think that as soon as you need a background check and a mental health test and a license, the government will take over and enslave them. And you have goddamn too many of those rednecks.
To all the people who want assault weapons legislation, look up the Virginia tech shooting, Winnenden shooting, Lubys shooting, Erfurt shooting, Dunblane shooting, isla vista shootings, serbia shootings, etc
a lot of mass shootings are commited with only a handgun(s). Virginia tech was the worst shooting in history for years and it was only commited with a pistol.
>>767283397
Can't do it with an ar15 either if we put the guns in the right hands.
>>767286780
Dis a troll right?
You telling me that computers in the hand of Civil people. Are. As. Dangerous. As. A. Rifle?
>>767286704
Part of it.
The right is there so that citizens can defends themselves from what may come. Be that other citizens, foreign powers, or our own government
>>767280853
There's no reason why you should be allowed to speak.
>>767280853
maybe if you are a farmer, you might need a gun to shoot foxes
nobody needs a gun in suburbia. Americans are morons for thinking otherwise
>>767286874
Then why are we still arguing? Thats what i said all the time. Regulation. Not banning. Regulate the guns and who gets them.
>>767286878
What about a rifle in the hands of civil people?
>>767280853
Good point, come take mine. I dare you
>>767286942
elaborate. your statement of “regulating” firearms is very vague
>>767286978
Thats what i was saying.
A computer owned by a civil person cant be used to kill somebody directly. However, a rifle in the hands of a civil person can kill many people in no time. And you want to tell me this isnt true and that computers are worse than gs or what?
>>767284997
Everything you just stated is true though.
>>767286874
Are background checks already do that. Mentally ill people already can't buy guns.
>>767280853
true
gun ownership is a HOBBY. It does not make you safer, but statistically endangers you and your whole household.
Also, the NRA have admitted to accepting large amount of foreign donations on behalf of destabilizing American politics. They actively encourage arming mentally unstable people and advocate violent paranoid resistance of the government. Yes, they're a terrorist organization.
>>767287099
>>767286942
This was in reply to you.
>>767285985
FAKE NEWS RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>767284997
overpopulation is a function of resource consumption, it is not some arbitrary population cap like you're playing a fucking video game.
Killing people makes no difference, we have enough food to feed twice the current population. The biggest issue is excessive and destructive industries like the military-industrial complex.
>>767287074
Ok.
First. Make all gun laws in the whole nation the same.
You muricans love the age of 21. So make the legal age to buy a gun 21. Everywhere.
First, take a test in gun safety, storage and shooting at your police.
Then you should need a reason to obtain a firearm. E.g Hunting, sports shooting, etc. And you have to proove this.
Take a mental health test with a psychologist.
At last, there is a background check made by idk. the FBI.
Then you have to wait some time.
At least thats how it works in Switzerland. And IT WORKS!
>>767287077
Actually, yeah. Without a computer you wouldn't be able to vomit your bullshit worldwide. That's right there would make the world a better place.
>>767287229
Wow now we got the liberals saying pro gun news is fake news lol.
>>767287300
What a day to be alive lol
>>767286769
Doesn't mean you need to make it easier for them to kill themselves.
>>767287167
I dont think that mentaly ill people cant buy guns. By mental ill, i dont mean the people walking in the streets homeless and crazy. I mean the psychos, sitting at home planinng to shoot up the school or similar. Those people cant be detected by your loose background check.
>>767287298
You are the perfect example of a stupid redneck with no arguments.
>>767287293
>implying the Swiss would mass murder each other if they could buy a gun easily
>>767286878
You saying they aren't? Look at antifa and their alt-right butt buddies, those people cropped up from the internet, bringing with them violence and stupidity. Muslims can join ISIS online, people can give each other effective suicide instructions or trick others into serious self-injury, inspire political unrest, and you're worried about a gun. Even here on 4chan, the influence of words and free communication has provided real world rammifications, from inconsequential stuff in meme culture being referenced in person to affecting how people considered the U. S. Election. Even long before the internet, literature was a serious case for all the same. Look at what Marx has done to the world by writing his beliefs out, or Thomas Payne in the 18th Century, the crusades for the Holy Land because three books disagree, and finally individuals can broadcast their own written seeds for ruin.
>>767287346
Ease and efficiency are good things, anon. That includes killing each other.
>>767280853
this. KYS gun shitheads.
>>767287505
>implying the Swiss or any other culture is immune to violent paranoid delusions and homicidal tendencies.
being a smaller country makes it less likely and easier to prevent, that's all
the problem in America is there is no enforcement at local levels and the Federal government cannot be everywhere, the nation is simply too big. If state governments actually started enforcing gun laws, things would change.
>>767287293
>21
>can go kill people at war with a gun at 18 but you can't own one until later
Wow
>>767287425
>too brown to have a red neck
>don't even like white people
Actually, I'm quite aware of the futility of arguing with liberals. It would be easier to convince a tree it's planted in the wrong spot and so should relocate itself elsewhere.
>>767280940
Give me your brain seed lovely anon.
>>767287505
>Switzerland is right behind you when it comes to gun ownership
>its easy to buy a gun if you are normal
>swiss people dont kill each other with their rifles.
>>767287378
I honestly believe are mental health system would throw a lot of the good guys under the bus as well. But whatever if you honestly think are background checks are loose then i'm done talking to you anyways.
>>767281125
>120 pound women dont get raped by 220 pound men in cities
>>767287607
... The argument was about if i could kill someone when i take my computer and bang it on your head. NOT, i repeat, NOT about if someone indirectly gets killed by computers because he was e.g recruited by IS over the internet.
>>767287293
there are background checks to see if you have commited a felony and your criminal record.
>>767287706
Well, thats a diffrent discussion. We are at gun laws rn.
>>767281686
When has owning a gun ever let you stand up to the government?
>>767287763
I am aware that many lefists are just dumb. Exactly same with right wings.
Im neither one. I hate right wingers and i hate leftists. So you should try and actualy bring up points to discuss instead of just cursing at other because"uuh they r suu stupid it isnt worth to discus with m "
>>767287911
Thats cool and all but many mass murderers are just normal people that havent commited one crime, except oc the mass murder. So jeah. Those people wont get stopped of buiyng a gun
There was no need for Rosa Parks to go to the front part of the bus. A right doesnt mean a necesity.
>>767287791
Different country
Different people
Different culture
It's fucking Switzerland.
>>767287847
A background check is checking if you have commited a crime or were in e.g a mental hospital n shit.
But what if, highpotheticaly, this individual has sociopathic disorders and did never commit a crime or was in a mental hospital, yet is still planning to shoot up a school? Ooh. Shit. He got that gun. Whoops.
>>767287996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD61YFxUga4
>>767288196
Jeah right. I forgot. Gun laws and regulation work in every country, may it have big diffrences, but they are not working in the US because you are so unique and special.
>>767280853
There's no reason I need to own a playstation either. I still do.
>>767288220
That's why you have armed security in schools. And people will slip by the mental health checks and still manage to get a gun. It's in no way perfect. Not to mention the illegal firearms being traded through the black market.
>>767281397
We almost entirely banned guns in my country some time ago
suicide rates wont decrease, people will just find other means that hurt other people like jumping off buildings, walking infront of trains/trucks ect
>>767288029
The argument is that taking away gusts isn't going to change human nature. People will kill people. You want to reduce that then attack the actual problem. American society is sick. There's some deep issue no one cares to touch which is at the heart of people wanting to kill large groups of people they have never met. Take gun without addressing the true issue and you'll just see more cars plowing through crowds
>>767280853
>There is no reason you need to own a gun
Until you do.
>There is no reason you need to own a gun.
With faggots like you on the loose? You're joking. You need to be shot dead for FUCKING UP /B/ WITH GARBAGE BAIT THREADS.
Fertilizer can cause more damage than guns
>>767280853
o yea, prove it >:^|
>>767280853
I live in Texas so there's every need to own a gun.
>>767280853
i mean i guess you could use crossbows
>>767288516
Try to trick a psychologist into thinking you realy have a mental illness. Its exactly as hard as vice versa.
And if you need to have armed security in schools, then you maybe should overthink your laws. Just sayin.
And stop with that "uuh buht thaa black markt is getting us guns.. Uuh wunt mak a diffrence"
The black market isnt something you can go around the corner. You need contacts, trust and a shitload of money to buy a gun. I dont think some 16 yr old will have this. Plus you could maybe have a better police which cares about the black market. But i understand its more important to arrest some stoners.
>>767288317
Unique, yes. Special, no.
I would bet you my dog that you could give every person in Switzerland an automatic assault rifle with case of ammo each and still not see rise in gum deaths per capita that would match the US.
>>767288565
Of course its a problem with society. But that doesnt mean you should just give the possible mass murders the gun with a smile on your face.
>>767285416
lol thinking Colt makes anything military grade is fucking laughable. They've outsource all materials and labor since early 2000's
>>767280853
Fuck off with your daily propaganda spam. Go back to your own country.
>>767280853
>I found who was behind..
>>767288773
As i said. Almost all men above 18 have a full automatic Military grade assault rifle (which is btw so good thats illegal in the US, or at least was). With ammo.
It's an issue with you sick fuck people. It's an issue with the NRA glorifing guns. You cant change that. But you can change the laws that give every sociopathic psycho the "Right" to own a gun.
>>767288720
Low income areas around me have had metal detectors and police presence for over 10 years now. There's shootings every week outside the school but there won't ever be one at the school. I think schools should have at minimum the security our court rooms have.
>>767288835
Still the civil version of the M16. Just because of outsourcing doesnt the facts change. The AR15 is the civil version of the M16, both produced by colt.
>>767280853
They aren’t a terrorist organization. They’re a shitty lobbying firm that every normal gun owner hates. Because they constantly beg for money like they are broke, and claim to be playing “chess” when really they couldn’t play connect 4 when it comes to doing what they say they will.
Fuck the nra, fuck you and fuck your mom.
Also fuck me for taking the bait like a faggot
>>767288906
Go back to your own country.
>>767288786
So you even live in the US? Have you purchased a gun in the US the legal way? Getting a legal gun isn't as easy as that. It's not like buying candy at the 7-11 down the street. It hasn't been easy for a good long time
>>767288906
Bullshit. Also they don't have ammo on hand. You have to fill out paperwork to get ammo there.
You people are so full of shit
>>767285416
>only colt makes the ar 15
Gee who the fuck have I been buying them from them?
>>767288983
I am in my country. Thank you.
>>767286013
>loose background check
I can tell you don’t know anything about the process
>>767289012
You live in Switzerland? No? Oh. You can go to your local shooting range and buy ammo there.
>>767288906
Yeah, fuck off. Worry about your own country and leave us alone.
>>767289099
He watches cnn why would he need to?
Nice dubs btw
>>767289033
Never said this.
>>767288720
>And if you need to have armed security in schools, then you maybe should overthink your laws.
You should ALWAYS be ready.
Fucking libtards.
>>767289153
You live in the USA? No?
>but
Nah. Your opinions are irrelevant
>>767289181
Didn’t someone from cnn or some other major fail a background check when they were trying to prove how easy it was?
Like seriously fuck off. You can get denied for unpaid child support. Add to that someone us went the extra step with a concealed carry permit. So I’m double checked. Fuck off. I’d keep my guns, but they were lost in a terrible boating accident.
>>767289162
Lol. First, you want to discuss. But when you realize that maybe you arent the rational person here, i should worry about my country.
Btw. I dont worry bout you. I just think its funny to argue with fucking NRA-dick sucking gun praising monkeys.
The US has half of the world's guns. That scares irrelevant countries to the point they think they have some kind of influence on our freedom. If you are truly American any argument against the 2nd Amendment is a joke to you.
>>767289349
Well there is also the other extreme where a 13 year old could buy a gun...
>>767289351
If someone argues that the nra actually does GOOD for gun owners you’re already talking to a mouth breather, or a fudd. Both of your arguments are invalid
I need it to defend my family from boot-licking peasants like you. Everything, such as your logic, comes easy to people like you. You can pry it from my cold dead hands.
>>767289410
Where. Explain to me how that can happen because that is literately impossible legally
>>767280853
That's kind of funny because there's no reason why your opinion matters
>>767287996
it does happen, just not in cities
you have all those wacky freedom/anti opression things in your constitution for a reason kiddo. its not just to sound pedantic.
>>767289351
I just questioned my sanity in arguing any policy with a euro bitch is all. You don't know what the fuck you're taking about because you live in a different country.
NRA is bullshit. Your third failed assumption about me
>>767288487
is it an assault playstation or a playstation of peace?
>>767281428
Thank goodness that you do not live in America then.
Now go take care of your normal ass country so we do not have to.
In addition pass what ever laws you desire in your own country and stay the fuck out of ours.
Have a nice day!
>>767289349
Ive never done anything to anyone my entire life besides make a white baby. I got 3 continuations and they told me I had one more to find a job or go to jail. I was 18 I planned on being a nurse but I work construction now. I saw the same people on their 6th or 7th continuince black and on state aid. I applied and got denied. My grandfather came to this country and raised 8 kids working at a slaughterhouse idk something isn't right I'm about ready for a revolution I say let them try to take our guns we could really fix things if we start from scratch.
>>767288251
I didn't click on it, but I'm sure it's either civil war, or rebels that had guns supplied to them.
So what's your point?
If mericans didn't have guns Russia will invade.
>>767289858
Implying that when a right is taken, they will give it back. L o fucking L
>>767289470
Cant find the vid rn. But there was an experiment some yrs ago. A 13 yr old tried to buy booze, cigs and a gun. Guess which one of those things he got?
>>767289998
An 8 year old knows right from wrong
>>767289869
Just a bunch of Americans scaring off the feds with there guns.
>>767287875
Pepper spray?
>>767288556
That sentiment has been proven to be false. Suicide is an opportunistic desperate choice. People who don't have immediately available means to kill themselves usually do not seek out more time consuming means.
I could post evidence, or you could just look it up for yourself since you're spouting stupid shit that's been repeatedly disproved.
>>767289998
Ah, yep. A bolt action. 22 rifle.
There WAS a time not that long ago when a 13 year old could easily buy a .22 bolt gun at a gunshow with only a parent present.
Gunshow loopholes are pretty much all closed now
>>767290178
>pepper spray
>>767288720
lol, I live in a country without guns, armed security at schools because of damn immigrants that will use anything to harm a human being. So, I guess we should also ban knifes etc?
>>767280853
>There is no reason you need to own a gun.
But I can still get one if I want to.
Aren't rights a glorious thing?
>>767282944
Gun owner and 2nd amendment advocate here.
>Gun or no gun, if somebody is going to commit murder, they don't need a gun
That's just stupid. Kill 58 and wound 500+ with a knife from hundreds of yards away.
>Are you going to cut off people's hands next?
This type of retarded shit gives gun owners a bad name.
>>767289858
>>767289858
You're too stupid to survive a revolution.
>>767290278
>I'm going to project my shit-spouting onto others!
I wish you were part of these statistics, honestly.
>>767280853
Reasons
>Other people are armed, so I also want to be armed.
>I like guns.
>I like to hunt.
>Shooting is a fun hobby.
>I like to know that I CAN defend me and mine despite, thankfully, knowing that it in all likelihood will never happen.
>Firearms/ammunition represent a decent investment, and hedge against social collapse.
>>767290721
So, no citation. No key for the the red line. No country. That doesn't mean anything. You're dumb.
If that is a graph representing the effect of the assault weapons ban on suicide you're incredibly dumb.
>>767290672
Maybe but there's alot of me
>>767290721
I googled actual information for you since you're too dumb to look it up.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=92319314
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/saves-lives/
>>767291062
You have clones?
>>767291297
We all have the same haircut so kind of
>>767290041
There are always more of "them".
>>767291529
We all seen to also have at least one 10/22 as well
>>767291529
Well, I can't argue with that logic. You have bested me, good sir.
>>767291529
Matching tattoos gives a clone vibe too
>>767288126
tbf nearly all mass shooters are on prescription or hard drugs of some kind. Just make anyone on meds or with history of drug use unable get a gun.
>>767289998
Well guess who did something illegal then?
>>767290544
>Gun owner and 2nd amendment advocate here.
You’re one of those things. Definitely not the other.
>>767290544
that's never happened with a single shooter, ever, not even close, and okay, build a bomb, or drive a truck through a street parade, you're first statement is a lie or you're retarded, ffs you can make a chemical bomb from the stuff under your kitchen sink.
>>767291933
Mfw nobody ever wants to talk about this or how seemingly the entire population is on some kind of ‘script.
>>767291592
Not if we fix it
>>767280853
It's one of your human rights to defend yourself
>>767292655
Careful with the pronouns eurofags think their governments can do it for them
>>767292963
And where has the issue been?
Fertilizer should be regulated with special licensing it has a much greater destructive potential than any firearm.
I've got a great idea. Let's ban HANDS.
Think about it. With hands, you can fire a rifle at someone, steer a car at them to crush them, swing a club, stab with a knife, throw a rock, strangle, punch, hold them down to rape them, or sign a declaration of war. It's much harder to do all that without hands.
I know what some of you are thinking. "I like my hands, we've got a right to them, I don't want to give them up!" Stop repeating this outdated garbage. The world was a very different place when it was decided that people had a right to have hands. You don't need hands.
"But what about, I don't know, surgery and stuff?" Have you even looked at the statistics, retards? The average person is 100000000% more likely to smack someone in anger or even accidentally with their hands than they are to perform open heart surgery.
Come on, people. Take a stand, let's ban the hand.
>>767280853
Rednecks have to compensate their little dicks, so they need guns indeed.
>>767293111
I don't see an issue I'm not a Eurofag
>>767280853
I own a gun to keep faggots like OP from having control over how I live my life.
>>767280853
I'll bite. Name a mass shooting carried out by an NRA member.
Go.
>>767293182
How are people still not telling you how to live your life with a gun?
>>767281635
Isnt the government entirely corrupt there? like if you practice the wrong religion or say anything against the government, your family just mysteriously goes missing?
The 2nd Amendment is a measure against those things
>>767293279
Why does it have to be a NRA members? How does that make a difference, people other then NRA members can buy guns
>>767286501
There are more functional differences between an AR15 and an M16 than an AR15 and what most people would call an old-school semi auto classic hunting rifle made of wood
Seeing the gun fags and conservitards get triggered in these threads is literally the best part of my day. Keep raging you gun toting, sister fucking faggots.
>>767293369
How's it stop that from happening in the us? If you're doing something shady the 2nt admendment isn't going to make them shape up
>>767290882
>decent investment, and hedge against social collapse
and your investment makes social collapse more likely, so you got all your bases covered!
Is ww2 a fairytale in Europe?
>>767280853
>>767293629
You're right there should of been more gun control, German army was just handing out guns
>>767293516
>The moment you realize most of those people see the thread, pop in briefly to say, "This is stupid for obvious reasons," and then go about their lives with hardly a second thought for it.
>>767280853
no its not. what is the definition of a terrorist? what is the definition of a terrorist organization? What agency lists th NRA on its terror lists The UN lists it? - nope. NRA ever claim responsibility for an act of terror for political purposes?- nope. You like them and don't like what they do so you say something ignorant.
>>767293491
>old-school
>>767281428
There are places with no guns and incredibly high murder rates (Venezuela I believe is the one I'm thinking of), and places with plenty of guns with almost no murder (Switzerland). Guns don't correlate to violent crime. It just happens to be that more peaceful countries also ban guns because that's part of their ideology. Banning guns isn't what made them more peaceful. It's a lack of niggers and an increase in education and civilization. The fact of the matter is, if you look at white, gun owning, American population, the murder rate is the same as the Australian murder rate. I'll find the image for you
>>767294023
>>767280853
I have one good reason as an American...
Because I can
>>767280853
Nobody needs an SUV.
Nobody needs to eat meat.
Nobody needs to root their phone.
Nobody needs outbound port 22 open.
Nobody needs videogames.
Nobody needs more than $30,000 a year.
Nobody needs to go to the movies.
Nobody needs to listen to any argument that starts with "Nobody needs".
Fuck. Right. The. Hell. Off.
>>767293765
I Kek'd
>>767293517
I assume if you have a gun to protect your family it makes it a bit harder for a corrupt government to do harm to your family
>>767281762
The point isn't that you can win pitched battles against a professional army with all its ordnance, as a rag-tag citizens' militia with small arms. The point is that you CAN FIGHT. You can bleed them. When they come patrolling through your neighborhood, you might be able to take a couple of the fuckers with you. Hell, you might even be able to run away and do it again; they couldn't engage in endless "manhunts" for everyone who resisted them. They'd never feel safe and there could be shooters behind any window.
Of course, they COULD call in the artillery and air-support and level your neighborhood, sure. What would this get them though? Well, it would piss a lot of people off when innocents died and play into the hands of rebels. It would make a lot of the soldiers in that professional military seriously consider whether they were doing the right thing or not. Finally, it would simply kill people, and NO ONE wants to rule a nation of corpses.
The aim of a tyrant is to control, not to kill. What they want is to be able to have militarized police & gestapo point guns at people and cow them into submission to whatever dictates they want to impose. If citizens are instead waiting behind their doors and ready to shoot first when the jackbooted thugs come around, they've already failed.
So, the point is to fight. If you resist, you're not being controlled, and you're also undermining attempts to control others who can't or won't fight. Yes, you might die, of course. However, that's why Patrick Henry said what he famously said, more or less.
"As long as people can resist, they can be free, and tyrants can never succeed." When you're talking about using swords, knives and clubs against modern military weapons though, it ACTUALLY becomes pointless, because you can't bleed them at all. They'll just shoot you with beanbags, rubber, water cannons, microwave guns and other submission devices.
That's why Americans having guns is so important.
>>767294133
This
>>767281887
>challenge an attacker to a knife fight.
>if he wins, he gets to take your stuff and fuck you/your spouse
>fair is fair
>guns are for pussies
>if home invader has a gun, then shame on him
>there's laws against that
>There’s no reason to own a gun.
Really? If so, then why do the police have them?
>>767286094
>its the exact same thing
>...except for the thing that makes it not be the exact same thing
>minor detail
>shut up you crazy gun but redneck
>racist sexist homophobic transphobic bigot istaphobe
>>767286419
>Everytime i see
>this means it's the norm, no the exception
>>767286501
Literally the difference between 500,000 bullets per second vs 499,999 bullets per second on these horrific murder machines IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO GET SHOT WHY DO YOU WANT CHILDREN TO DUE YOU REDNECK GUN NUT ISTAPHOBES?!??????!!?!!?!??
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
>>767280853
>He is author of this....?
>>767286808
s t r a w
m a n
>>767286930
>the lord has spoken
>>767287141
>NRA have admitted to accepting large amount of foreign donations on behalf of destabilizing American politics
Interdasting. You gonna back that up with a legit, objective source, or just tell us to Google it? ;-)
>>767294343
But muh Australia
>>767287425
Your white privilege is showing.
You are telling a poc they can't own guns.
I mean, if you're okay with being racist...
>>767293161
FINALLY! What took you so long to use this response?
>>767294261
How so? 10 SWAT or army rolls up with a tank, who am I stopping? Robber yeah gov... Na
Of course there's a reason for people to own guns: protection from Democrats and their anti-american, violent, hateful, bigoted and intolerant ways. Fuck Democrats.
>>767295735
I'd love to be the proud tyrant of a leveled house full of dead niggas
>>767295735
Let's see a tank get through some of the Backcountry that exists in this country
>Implying our troops aren't American and will listen to obvious unamerican orders.
Their job isn't to follow orders it's to uphold the Constitution of the United States
One reason is that you shouldn't tell me what I can and can't do so long as it doesn't infringe on others rights.
