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I am an Executive Operations Manager. My salary is roughly 345k.

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I am an Executive Operations Manager.
My salary is roughly 345k.

I know a lot of people are frustrated in regards to finding a job. I can answer questions to help with this. Or maybe other work related or financial related questions.

There is a reason out of 100 resumes I will probably toss 97 at first glance.
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what do you look for on a resume?
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>>753287243
do you toss resumes cause you dont want unlucky people working with you?
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>>753287243
Actually, could I ask the ethics of being fired for sexual harassment without both evidence and me knowing who claimed I sexually harassed them? It also never went on a record or had place involved.
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>>753287243
that's not 345k. that's like 175k
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>>753287308
On a resume, a FULL page. If you have 10 lines or half a page or 3/4. HR wont even read them and they will never make it to my desk.

You would be amazed how many people may have a great cover letter, portfolio, and somehow a very generic 3/4 page resume. Literally fill the fucker with anything. Just put the effort.
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Do you honestly believe that you as an individual are worth more than 10x your neighbor?
Do you believe you actually work harder and deserve more than the people in your company who have been there longer than you making barely a tenth of your salary?

What's your hat size?
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>>753287243
Why do you toss most at first glance?
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>>753287912
dont want to employ unlucky people
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>>753287428
Haha.

>>753287471
It depends on your state. Some states are at will, and the can let you go for anything. If you truly believe you are innocent hire an attorney, if you have a good enough case they will do it for free until you win your lawsuit and they will take about 40% normally. Or you can hire by the hour. However people are very sensitive right now to this so I would suggest moving on. Sorry man.
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>>753287568
you're an idiot. 14,000 * 26.
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>>753287974
I asked op fuckface, also kek
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>>753287568
executive bonuses maybe?
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Dropped out of high school now a 21 year old beet can't get a job anywhere even mac Donald's because I cost more then the 16 yr olds and I'm too dumb for college to get educated that's why I dropped out of HS any tips what can I do with my life or was I too much of an idiot during school and should just KMS because shit not gonna change
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>>753287741
found the burn out 99%er.
sorry he got a useful degree and you majored in africana studies or womens lit. dumb ass.
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>>753287243
how cancerous is your HR department?
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>>753288216
Learn to enjoy the little that you have. You're a 1% as compared with an Indian or African
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>>753287568
Can you really calculate that bad?
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>>753287568
Do you not know what a gross salary is?

>>753287741
The lowest paid person at my company made 55k this year and they are 22 years old.

My worth is based on the decisions I make on behalf of the company. I make sure it grows, creates and retains earning. Millions of dollars. As much as I personally like helping people out or thinking the best of people. The truth is most people could not do my job as well as I do. They frankly could not make the correct decisions, some of them not being made years in advance to correct issues. Business are like ships they can sink in the night but to steer them on course takes years.

My helmet size is a medium in Leatt
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>>753288285
Lol as if just the right piece of paper magically increases your human value multifold that of another
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What field do you work in?
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>>753288397

How did you manage to get into that job? I currently slave away as a law student and can barely survive, even though the grades are good.
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>>753287243
>Cheque amount 0.00
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are you jew?
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>>753287912
Lack of effort see >>753287686

>>753288305
As a company think of HR as your first legal defense. Personally as someone who has hire all races, and beliefs, I think sometimes though that fear mongering is out of control. Which hunts for things cost so much money, time, and good employees. There are snowflake employees for sure and not much can be done about except fire them.

I want someone who is going to work, earn money for themselves and the company, and be a decent human.
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>>753288349
I don't understand this... how can I enjoy being a welfare reviving fuck I live pay to pay and off instant ramen shits hard I just don't know how to get my foot out of the door in terms of getting a job even a shitty minimum wage one just a job
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>>753288216
Become a cop. No degree required, just cop school. Although a criminal justice degree will get you more in certain states.
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>>753287686

how the fuck do you get a resume down to a single page? 6 point font?
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>>753287243
What advice do you have for a beta male who always feels compelled to compromise with his employees' needs? I just want my employees to know that I care about them, and that I'm not a douche boss. But I wonder if it'd be nearly impossible to reach your position in life without ruling with an iron fist or screwing over many employees along the way.
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>>753287974
>>753287243

Nigga I'm not sure if it's really you, but I saw this thread months ago. I remember that exact reply. Was it you?
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>>753288397

fuck Leatt
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>>753288519
I am in Chemicals. None Pharm

>>753288638
Honestly a lot of life is luck. I know people with better degrees, and colleges. However I was able to luck into some situations when I was younger and I made the best of them. My current job I was actually recruited and hand picked.

Luck though as much as it matters is only half the game, if I fucked off and did not apply myself. I would be homeless. TBH when I was 19 I was homeless and I would shower in a buger king bathroom before I went to my 2 part time jobs.
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>>753288892
Google recommended having only 1 page for a resume, so when I applied there (after being reached out to by a recruiter) I shaved it down to 1 page.

I increased the margins by as much as possible and removed some skills that didn't make any difference to the position I was applying to, and condensed the summarization of my experience at related work positions.

I didn't get accepted to Google (their tech interviews ask mundane algo questions) but I did take a software engineering job for $72k/yr elsewhere (using the 1 pg resume)
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>>753287243
Its because you throw them out without looking, isn't it. I wouldn't want unlucky people working for me either
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>>753287243

How do I take the next step in my career?

I've been a Business analyst for a ~4 years (large telecom business) and I've had a good track record with recommending financial decisions. I've written a couple of papers on operational inefficiency at the company that include suggestions to fix said problems. It seems no matter how well though out my ideas are, or how big the potential gains, my ideas are simply dismissed by senior management. After 10 formal proposals shrugged off by superiors, I'm starting to lose faith that my method will work out; what should I do to climb the ladder rungs asap?
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>>753289058
Burger Kings don't have showers.
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>>753287741
Not op but yes, he deserves more. If what he did was easy you'd be doing it too faggot. Same reason I make more than you
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>>753288671
That's because it is not a check it is a paystub, I do direct deposit.

>>753288892
Some managers hate more then 1 page. I like it as long as it is pertinent info. I don't care if you have experience in Microsoft Word. YOU SHOULD lol.
You would be amazed how many people send 1 resume to 50 different companies and it is 1/2 page or less.

>>753288928
You are not their friend and it is your job to advocate for the company. There is nothing wrong with being nice. However you are there to do a job. I would really suggest if you care enough to start reading books on leadership.

>>753288988
I did post once before but I do not believe the instance you are talking about was me.

>>753289002
haha prefer fox?
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>>753287243
Is there a trick to standing out on a resume?
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>>753288514
Except it does.

A well written, detail explained full page of their abilities qualifications and what they plan for in the future with the company is worth a lot more then some hastily written shit.

Sorry man life is what it is, if it sucks put more effort in. Humans are capable of amazing changes and actions.
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>>753289570
Mention all the skills they're asking for in the job application in some way, and it will stand out more.
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>>753288216
Don't ask for so much pay just because you're older or pick a really shitty job. Roofers are taking Mexicans, and here in PA Mexicans are demanding 15 an hour you fuck. Fucking millennials
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>>753289118
The 1 page or more is really manager dependent. ALL though say NO LESS then 1 full page.

>>753289232
I know this is scary however statistically most people move up in career paths via new jobs. You are much less likely to move up staying at the same company. You will either be swiftly moved up and you will know you are on the right path or you will be wondering which means you are not as valued as you would like to be.
>>753289293
When you are homeless a sink is a shower, I should of clarified.
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>>753289513
Which is still going to show what was deposited, lying cumsock.
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>>753289769

Thanks bro! I'll start looking around for better jobs tonight
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>>753289769
Ever get any funny looks when people walked in on you "showering"? Any funny stories?
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>>753289773

I am unsure what to tell you.
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>>753289293
Not sure if ignorance is from millennial comfort... They use the sink and hand soap... Homeless people I mean
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>>753290073

I would take the paper towels wet them down and go into the stall. The embarrassing thing was the cute girls at like 5 am knowing that I was obviously homeless. Because I would also sleep at a table someday when I didn't have AM work.
I would wear work clothing under my old clothing to protect it. Also taking my backpack to job interviews raised questions. I told them it was my text books I didn't have time to put away.
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>>753288748
>>753288216
bartender. you can pour a beer? mix a rum and coke? hold a conversation longer than 2 minutes?
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>>753290202
Most people in this country don't use the sinks in Burger King to shower.

>>753290304
Thanks for sharing the experience
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>>753290073
Sorry to elaborate it was a horrible depressing time in my life. In the dead winter of Utah for like 8 months of hell.
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When I get a stack of resumes, I immediately throw half of the stack into the shredder.
I don't want unlucky people working for me.
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>>753288748

Go mow lawns I have friend who do this and they make 45 an hour. Learn to hussle, be motivated. Does the work suck? Yes it fucking does and that is EXACTLY why someone will pay you. Don't buy an xbox buy a lawnmower.
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Do you do any illegal business on the side to make that 345k go up a little i mean, nobody would know
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>>753287243
Tell me how influential LGBTWTFLOL+ is regarding application. Don't bullshit me, I just lost the grand all of entry jobs because of this. Realistically, how often does political correctness take precedent for applicants?
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>>753287243
Net Pay: nearly 50% of total earnings

How does it feel to be totally fucked by gubament and socialist retards who willing give said gubament the power to steal so much from you so they can be lazy fucks and get low quality, free shit?

>Im sorry anon, I thought I had it bad for having to pay $700-$800 a week in taxes, but you sir are getting reamed.
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>>753290687

No way haha. I think the IRS is very much more in-tuned to high income individuals and business. They are not going to audit someone making 40k, they will audit me.
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>>753287243
OP how can I be like you I want to know how to be a cool guy like you how did you get there was it really just luck? Do you have any advice for us ?
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>>753290683
This. If you aren't succeeding, you aren't trying hard enough motherfucker.
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>>753290478
I guess most people in this country also don't know anything about other people in this country either? Ya, you're an idiot
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>>753290774
I wont answer you question although I want to say this. Take it how you will. If I think you are going to be a distraction, drama, confrontational, emotional, petty, manipulative, etc etc. I will hire ANYONE other then you. I once did not hire someone because I found out he did not return a 200 dollar item back to a previous employer and lied to them about it for months instead of saying he no longer had it.

>>753290777
I personally view income tax as a form of slavery. I don't care if you want to tax me 90% on my purchases but don't take what I earn.
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>>753288892
Understand that after it passes HR, your resume will be among a couple dozen that'll land on the man's desk. He's tired, he's busy, he's sleep-deprived, he hasn't seen his family, he still has work he didn't get to finish, and he wants to leave already. Now he needs to somehow quickly read through dozens of resumes.

Keep it simple, faggot. No one cares about your sissy feelings and embellishments. Your education along with 2 respectable and relatable-field jobs where you bulletpoint 4-6 of your major accomplishments should suffice. Use bullet points made up of just a few words that show off your success, and then a short sentence or two explaining. A reputable reference or two at the bottom if there's space.
Only put more than two jobs if you want to show that you have extensive experience working in that specific field. Obviously if you list more than two jobs, your bulletpoint accomplishments should be limited to 2-3 per job.

Sample Resume:
Anon, Software Engineer
4chan.org
12-08-2012

Columbia University, M.A. (Advanced Mathematics)
Class of 2021 (3.66/4.00 GPA)
Dartmouth College, B.S. (Computer Sciences)
Class of 2018 (3.73/4.00 GPA)

PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT
Apple, Inc. (Software Engineer)
>Exceeded Quota Expectations
was the only person in my cluster group to meet and exceed 99% of project deadlines within my first year.
>Managed Multiple Stations
took initiative and received an early promotion, tasked with overseeing group of trainees.
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>>753287243
what did you study to be an executive operations manager? what did you do that, i mean how was your career?
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>>753290774
If you are white, especially if you are male, never specify on your application.
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this was shooped back in 1990..
Kek
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>>753289513
You didn't answer my question.
Did you reach your position without every having to screw over employees along the way?
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>>753290841
See >>753289058

Some people may think this is stupid but the best advice I can give anyone is, work hard, harder then others. You are ALL competing for the same life, so who wants it more?
Also my biggest advice is to make friends. Make connections. Make all the friends and connections you can. Nice Guy and Dumb Guy are not the same thing. Be likable. It will open doors you never knew existed and pay out years down the road.
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>>753291432
The only people that don't think working harder pays off are idiots, or people that gave up halfway
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>>753291153

This is pretty accurate. Those I am interested in I will then go on social media and find them.

Smoking weed, you're OUT. (Even if I may or may not smoke)
Lot's of partying, OUT
Cussing, and stupid controversial subjects plastered everywhere, OUT
Guns (I personally like guns) You're OUT

If I can find you publicly so can our business relationships. I can't have some VIP googling his new rep and seeing you being 14 on your 30 year old FaceBook page.
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>>753291799
I got mad at the guns one, then realized that if you're so vain you've gotta post that son social media, any of it, that's the real problem...
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>>753291182
Information Systems Management, I actually never finished my degree, I will be honest though I wish I had it.

>>753291362
Sorry I missed it. No, but you are my competition I will out perform you if I can. Sneaky shady ways really do get known and in good companies are not well thought of and will hurt you in the long run.
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>>753292096
Exactly, I don't really care if you do or think any of those things but I need to know you can be professional in a VERY public light.
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I have a master's degree in cs (inb4 'pajeet will take your job'), and I've been rejected so far by google, amazon, and a mid-sized company. I've been accepted by a company that does a few months of training (unpaid), then you work for them for a few years (under contract), starting off at basically minimum wage. It'll give me good experience, and maybe a foot in some doors, after the contract is up.

It's a great opportunity to learn, but it's scary to think about a few months payless, then low-tier salary. Am I doing the right thing?
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what kind of donut do i bring to a job interview?
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>>753287686
>>753289118
>>753289513
>>753289769
1 page front and back or just 1 side? jfc you try to come off like you're so fucking smart yet you can't even give the most basic fucking information which you deem absolutely essential!!
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>>753290787
Hey, its business, the IRS shouldnt mess with it as long as youre organized it should be cool
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>>753287243
I'm intelligent, but I hate dealing with people, and I despise meetings. I'm great at streamlining processes, creating effective policies, but I feel like my lack of people skills is holding me back. Do I have any chance at high level management?
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I'm currently in school for Finance and have 1.5 years left before graduation. I want to be a CFP, what steps should I take to making that a little easier/more likely to actually happen? I've been denied from a few internships from very large financial firms already.
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>>753287243
Why the fuck are you on 4chan if your life is set?
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>>753287243

Why didn't you post the unedited version that the actual poster posted yesterday in the jobs thread?
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>>753293137

maybe he first came here - like most - in 2006-2008 and just stuck to it.
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>>753287243
Hey OP, no question but i just wanted to drop by to say this thread is pretty cool of you. You dont have to reply, just take a chuckle at the screen, put one thumb up and go "nice" just like i imagine one would.

Thanks mate.
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>>753292389
I am none religious however I would suggest you start following Dave Ramsey financial advice. I think you may want to look at smaller employers as well. There is more then the big 3

>>753292419
Donuts make you fat :P

>>753292494
Who would do a front and back? Is this a book? You linked someone who isn't even me. It should be no less then 1 page, full of pertinent info so the hiring manager will know you wrote that resume for him/her and not the 50 random companies you sent it too. Whether a manager personally likes more then 1 page is very individual. I personally think more then 1 page of pertinent info shows drive.

>>753292617
You need to develop people skills. I wont lie to you. People hire people they like. Read 7 ways to win friends and influence people, and learn how to fake it.
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>>753287243
Give me 10K or you're a bitch.

paypal.me/thentstain
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>>753292868
Look for smaller companies, you will increase your chances, look to smaller towns and cities. Go further then others are willing, in all areas of your life.

>>753293137
I came here in 2007 I think. It stuck although I have had years of not being on here from time to time

>>753293324
Haha
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>>753293399

I've heard Ramsey before, but I'm not sure what he's said about unpaid training. Currently, I've applied to about 150 companies, big and small, so no issues, there.

My question is more looking for your thoughts on unpaid training + mandatory work periods after. For a software dev, is this a good idea?
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>>753293437

I know it seems silly but I am not rich. I have a life, it is blessed but not rich. When you see true wealth, it is scary. People cater to you because they wish they were you.
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>>753289232
Move jobs
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>>753293741
I don't have interns. However what I know of them especially in software is a lot of companies will churn them for a project and let them go once they get it down. It is truly free labor and IMO should be illegal. That said I think sometimes in a career you need to sacrifice and it can be scary. I would make sure you attached to a project that is longer lasting then your internship. Also have you looked at security? I have had a lot of friends get paid internships with that. I am sorry I can't give you more info about internships. I never did one, and none of my employees have with us.
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How much is 1k to you? Do you burn through in like a week? Have you saved alot? Do you own a house/rent a house or apartment? Is it luxurious?

Dont have to answer all of them, equally curious to all of them and appreciate all answers. I just wonder what life is like for someone in that tax range. I always watch movies about people like you, i never expect to get to talk to them.
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>>753287243
heres my resumæ:

Anon E. Moose

graduated Cumma Sum Lady from University of State

I got all A's in my assistanceship degree

Work history: zero

My personal skills are growing ball hair

i can type and take phone

i once masterbatewanked off the eyeful tower

can i be your personal bodyguard or tech typists?

i can type
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>>753293989

Some definite nuggets here. Thanks, op!
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>>753287243
Do you think your effort is really worth that salary, OP?

I'm almost certain it's not.
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>>753294033

1k is 1k, I grew up extremely poor and my father went to prison when I was 11 and from then on I was in foster care. I was homeless for a period when I was 19ish.
I have moments where I will spend 1k like I used to spend 10 dollars. Then like today, I was eating raman and I was thinking about how lucky I am and how far my life has come, and what it was like when I cooked flour and water once in a pan after I hadn't eaten in a couple days.

I save a good portion of my money, I am debt free. I do not own a home, I live in California but my house is decent 1900 sq FT , I have some luxury items but nothing fancy. I drive a paid off F150 that's 9 years old lol, and I have a couple high end dirt bikes also paid off. I am single with no kids. I never want to be married nor have a kid. I have a cat.

Too be honest my youth was so rough in relation to finances it has given me a sort or mental fuck. I always feel poor somehow. So a lot of my actions reflect that. Like I don't buy new clothing much because it just seems like a waste, I agonize over large purchases for months before I buy them lol like dirt bikes lol.
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>>753290987
Says the guy who "showers" at fast food restaurants.
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>>753294389
Nigga, he's a bachelor.
Money.
Bitches.
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>>753287243
>I'm a lazy, incompetent fuck and I don't do my job 97% of the time.
I hope you're getting paid 345k cents per year you fraudulent sack of shit.
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>>753287243
Hey OP I have some questions.

Do you have an IT Security department where you work?

If you do, what is the average salary?
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>>753287568
Lmao how dumb are you? No wonder you are an executive chef at Wendy's
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>>753288216
Go to a trade school and learn a trade... There, not so hard huh?
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>>753294389

I kind of answered this above.

I'll let you decide. I was recruited. In my first year, I fired most of the staff the average employee missed 1.8 days a month. We had 38% churn,

In my first year, I didn't have a single employee miss a single day of production. I took churn to 10.8% standard being about 15-20 for my industry. I raised our ARPU by 28% per client, grossing the company a 3 million dollar YOY Gain. I am on track for better performance next year, we have also expanded in my area. There is a lot more but this is my brag
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>>753294549
So then what do you do with all that disposable income?
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>>753288748
>>753288216
Its pathetic that you are crying over receiving free money lmfao. I wish I could sit on my ass all day and get a check. You have it good. You could spend all that free time on a fucking hobby, since you dont fucking work you leech.And dont say you cant afford it either. You got internet and there are tons of hobbies that are FREE. I bet youre obese too.
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>>753294656
i agree with this question ^^
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>>753295015
I took a sick day today but i really just didn't wanna go to work. Would you fire me if you were my boss?
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>>753294549
Wtf??? Are you the successful version of me? I can relate so much. Like fuck clothes and apparel and looking high end. I think alot of other successful people agree there. But even the youth part. I feel that, man. Growing up without a father is one of the shittiest experiences for anyone. It fucks you big time. And when i was, we ate alot of raman and tv dinners and whatnot. The house was ehh but it was spacious. Oh and most of all i agree with, screw having kids. Its a grass is always greener situation, people think its fun and exciting which, im sure sometimes it is but you spend much more time aging yourself from stress.

Thank you so much for the reply and if you took the time to read this. It was really interesting just getting to know how you work. I wanna turn my life around and mean something after all the shit ive been through, just like you.
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>>753294656

We out source that to a firm from a major city about 2 hours away. I have a close friend who just started IT security though in Arizona and he says he makes 72 starting. I do know there are different levels of cert, which they pay dramatically rises. I would assume top tiers (if I was to hire) 70 to 130 depending on location. Bottom starting should be no less then 50
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>>753292096
You cant take a pic of your new gun or you hunting anymore but its ok for someone to post the food they bought, made, etc, etc? Thats fucking stupid.
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When you gonna retire, OP?

Do you ever get high class escorts with that fat paycheck?
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>>753295032

After taxes it isn't as much as you think. Lets see, I fixed my teeth, had a surgery, bought dirt bikes, paid of loans, and debt, now I save, travel and life a normal life. I didn't become a different person. I value my friends those I trust so much, those that would always love me, I do nice things for them.

I am saving for a house right now. I would like to buy it in cash tbh. Houses a nice house in my area is an easy 500k
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>>753293989
What car do you drive? Is your wife hot and much younger than you? Do you sniff coke regularly?
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>>753295188

I don't hire people that do this, and if I do they don't last long. THAT said, everyone is human. I have not missed a day in 4 years. If you missed a day, I would be seeing you Saturday and I may need you to make up some production the following Saturday as well. I look forward to see you.
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>>753288988
It was probably me, I've posted it before and actually used to do that. Got the idea from an old Viz comic around 15-20 years ago and it stuck with me as good advice.
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>>753287243

So OP. Just graduted with my bachelor's, applying for master's programs rn before I go out and be a pipette slave before next fall quarter starts.

Genetics and molecular biology, got a year's worth of hands on bench and project design experience cause of the program I graduated through thankfully. Not here to ask about getting a job though.

I see a social need for things like novel antibiotics and treatment for not niche but not lucrative gene disorders. Things that can keep a company sailing to its next port once they're off the ground, but unattractive to investors vs a new boner pill or w/e for the risk.

Is there fuckall for me as an individual to do about it? Nonprofits etc are a meme in this sector. Even as a for profit, I feel like I'd just get lobbyist cockblocked as soon as I showed promise of competing against someone's patent.

Do I just satisfy myself with working to become a project manager and somberly tell myself I'm making a difference? I don't really care about money beyond a comfortable upperish middle class life. I'd go into academia, but they don't get fuckall out of their test lab usually.
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>>753295751
Ahh i work in a hospital. They encourage us to call in if we don't feel well. I guess the industries are much different.
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>>753295254
The world is never going to be what you desire, however you can be exactly how you want. I have a lot of issues, I find myself emotional attaching myself to father figures at work. I realize this is unhealthy and I mentally correct myself. Just because you ARE a certain way doesn't mean you lack the insight to be self reflective and take corrective action. And yes it will be LIFE LONG battles.

>>753295407
I agree it sucks, I am a fan of guns and hunting however the world isn't fair and all you can do is play along sometimes. SO then you have the ability to do what you want in your free time and maybe, just maybe help some others do the same.

>>753295515
I am reasonable attractive, so I don't need pros lol. Sex is easy in today's world lets be honest. I would like to Semi Retire at 55.

>>753295692
I am not sure if you believe me I drive a F150 that is paid off and I think 8-9 years old. I will never be married and my father went to prison for heroin, and it made me pretty cautious of drugs so no.
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>>753290554
Funny thing is, you could be throwing out the resume of the one person you wish you could hire
>That would mean the unlucky one is you
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Op is full of shit, most likely a bored 20 yr old whose resume has words like Little Caesars and Magazine Sales on it.
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>>753287243
i need to make 20 million dollars please help me OP
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>>753296466
I think you're almost certainly incorrect. Op seems like the real deal and has already given some sound advice so fuck off back to your trap thread faggot
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>>753288514
Yeah, that piece of paper represents a guarantee that you have particular knowledge, at least to a minimum degree. Some definitely are worth more to the advancement of the species than others
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>>753295751
This alone makes you a god damned liar.
None would work for you if you believe you can chisel two Saturdays out of someone for calling in sick or with childcare issues.
Real life happens.
Terrible performance OP.
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>>753296672
Op is a total faggot with zero managerial experience.
But then you know this .
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>>753296072
I wish the people who handle food did as your hospital does.

>>753296067
Your non profit comment made me LOL irl haha
I work in the Chemical industry but none pharm, that said I work with Bayer, Monsanto etc. From what I have seen unless you are working with the EPA, or WHO, there is so much money at work no one is going to let someone fuck their 100 mill product up that took 7 years of creation (I think it is like 3 million just to register a product in Cali for testing) That no 1 person is going to change ANYTHING.

Side note Project managers IMO get shafted, Projects end. I would suggest moving into the continual business side of things.


Look sometimes people give me shit like some people in this post about not being deserving etc. The best way you can change peoples life is by employing them. I hired an employee last year who had a 6 month old, and made 12 an hour. He hustled though he was hungry. I saw the hunger I used to have. This year he made like 60 something. IMO the best way to give back to the world is by giving people great jobs that provide a life not just survival.
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>>753287243
where did you find you job? I make 110k / year for the gov but I never see high paying positions listed anywhere.
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>>753287243
Why do you make so much more than me? I'm operations manager at an industrial pvf supplier and I only make 90k before commission and bonuses. I live in Beaumont,TX though so I assume my cost of living may be much lower.
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>>753292494
Never print on the back. Are you stupid?
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>>753294126
I don't see any bodyguard-related skills in that resume and your typing's attrocious.
I need someone that can fuck a cantaloupe though.

Are you capable?
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>>753296589

Well it will be 11 after taxes.... you and I both :P

>>753296724
My company works 4 10's so realistically it would be Friday. For the scenario though that was needless info.
That said I pay people about 20% more starting then competitors, we also offer healthcare and other benefits. We are the largest company for hundreds of miles.

Pretty much if you didn't I will find someone who will. I have bosses who expect production, and goals HAVE to be met. Too much money is on the line. This isn't Rite Aid or Wendys.
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>>753297030

I work as a Project manager funny enough for a company that build Microwave Sites (Think towers)
I had a friend who worked as upper management at a company that was having issues. Someone was replaced and I replaced them.
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>>753288397
What decisions do you do exactly?
My family has a lot of friends who are CEO's at some 15 billion+ rev companies - i don't see them doing ANYTHING smart.

They take responsibility and they talk a lot of shit that everyone else has to work with.
I am almost certain that you had not a single yes or no decision that actually had meaningful impact in your company.
You probably play buzzword bingo all day and talk about how important it is to do this and that and you fly out to meat him and her but in the end its the actual expertise sitting in the way lower parts company that carries it.
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>>753297267
No you dont.
This is the worst fairy tale ever.
Go fuck yourself with a chainsaw faggatron.
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>>753288514
A degree in a marketable discipline speaks to the fact that the person who received it is clever enough to know what employers actually want to see before they give you money.
It's not the paper itself or even necessarily the studies. It's an awareness of how to achieve objectives. That DOES make you worth more than other people.
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>>753297495

I don't know about Chiefs but I am just Executive, Chief is a step above me. Honestly a lot of what we do is foresight, knowing when to do things before most people realize it is even a thing. I also have final approval on almost all things with exception HR, Security, and some other mundane things like janitorial, etc etc. The core of the business though is ultimately resting on my head like a mac truck. If I mess up, it costs people lives, tuition, mortgages, cars etc. It honestly stresses me out SO much. I think I have an ulcer sometimes during really tough times, like a December ago. December 15th being our financial EOY.

Chiefs were me but 20 years from now, their job is to make sure I don't screw up and play golf. If I am doing my job correctly I am not letting my Chief do anything other then a meeting here and there.

They earned it 20 years ago.
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are you looking forward to Trumps tax plan?
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>>753297495
>You probably play buzzword bingo all day and talk about how important it is to do this and that and you fly out to meat him and her but in the end its the actual expertise sitting in the way lower parts company that carries it.
Youre fucking retarded. Without the CEO there making deals and what not those fucks in the lower parts of the company wouldnt even have a job. Do you really think a CEO is useless?
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>>753296984
What's your opinion on automation? There's lots of talk about manual labor jobs being automated but from my experience working in paper-pushing offices 90% of the white collar work has already been automated by various business systems and those jobs still exist only by a combination of slow-adoption and corruption.

Who's going to get the axe first?
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>>753297850
Generally incimoetance gets promoted to someolace it cant hurt the organization. People in upper management are usually legacy idiots who can't even think themselves out of a wet paper bag.
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>>753288748
There are employment agencies. You join and places hire you temporarily when they have big orders or someone left or just cause its cheaper than hiring one guy for 20 years. You'll mostly get work like warehouse stuff or moving companies or other manual labor like that. Enjoy moving boxes or dirt for 10 hours a day, maybe you'll meet a guy that gets you into construction with him or you stay on in a air conditioned warehouse and get a forklift and truck license.
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>>753297943
Haha, actually yes, my pay is reflective to the company and I think I will make more lol


>>753298015
I luckily work in an industry that would need like true AI to replace, human like robots. That said this is the issue with AI, if I can hire an AI slave at a one time cost and pay Comp, payroll etc, I will have to to compete because everyone else is. That said it gives the rich slaves and the poor will NEVER be able to compete with slavery at such a mass scale. How will you start your own business with you and your son when I can buy a robot to do it, and do it at a fraction of the cost? It is a serious issue if AI does continue.
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>>753297974
No, I just think the CEO does way less skillfull and impressive things than anyone with an actual expertise.
If you manage to build up a company and make it big by yourself, then you have my respect.
But 99.99% of all "managers" jump in already thriving businesses and the think they are doing a good job while infecting everyone with their bullshit buzzwword vocabulary wile having 0 expertise in anything but talking shit.

>>753297933
I don't know, if it is as you say it is then you are are an exception to my experience and probably in a very different type of company than what I am talking about.
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>>753298625

I understand how you feel but IDK man, They are insane and so smart a lot of the time. Google
Gordon Bethune and Richard Teerlink and there are many others. Seriously impressive CEOs.
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>>753298625
You dont get to be CEO without having some intelligence or expertise buddy. Just because youre the CEO of a mechanic shop chain doesnt mean you need to know how to fix cars.
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>>753287243
Assuming this is real.

If someone lists their education/job history how likely are you to follow up on it. (calling old jobs, etc.)
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>>753299389
Checking job history is almost the last step. I hand that off to someone unless I have a relationship with their previous or current employer then I will make a call myself.

Education is pretty much NEVER checked, however lol sometimes criminal back ground checks can give off a hint that not everything is as it should be. Usually like timelines not adding up etc.

Certs though, are always check and verified. There is too much liability involved not to be.

Also I know people will hate hearing this but DMV and Credit Scores can prevent a job offer. I personally hate it, it is dick but there are reasons for it.
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>>753291142
I lost a radiation safety officer position...

>even though I went to graduate school there >even though I have a physics degree and 'some' experience related to nuclear power production and nuclear physics,
>even though I received very expensive professional radiation safety officer training through an accredited institution
>even though I worked at a research laboratory at the institution literally handling radioactive check sources all day long, doing dosimetry assessments, receiving further training through the school, AND performed routine investigations of the place for radioactive constituents

...I lost the job to a blue haired dyke, a literal fuckup, who had no experience, and only a half assed geology degree. It was a very liberal uni looking for the exact job I've been searching for ever since I was a junior, and low and behold one opened up right at the very school I was in graduate school for. I've never wanted to burn a motherfucker to the ground as I did that day. Me and my fiance lost a house because of it. If it happens again I'm going postal, I don't know how I could handle that twice.
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>>753287243
Does it have a negative impact if you can't find the person on the web/his accounts are all set to private?
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>>753299728
What do you mean by DAMN?

Also, I have a very specific skill set and it is analytical chem related. Unfortunately the market rate for my skill set is not high. What can I do to market myself and what types of roles outside the lab should I look for? I am excellent at what I do in the lab but I'm unsure how to transition out.
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>>753299728
>>753300075
I meant DMV not DAMN
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>>753291799
what if you cant find him on social media at all?
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>>753300034
I have had some personal turmoil on this because ALL of mine are set pretty private even though I don't have anything on them that would be bad.

That said, If i have 2 candidates and they are in all aspects equal, The one that I have the most information on will automatically feel more comfortable to me. This is human and I try to remove that fallacy out of the my decision. Too be honest, interviews really nail the position. I rather someone who is a B on paper but an A in personality then visa versa. I can train the B on paper and other managers can build their skills, however no one can do anything about a sub par personality.
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>>753300075
DMV is Department of Motor Vehicles, if you have excessive speeding tickets etc, that says something about responsibility.
Where do you live? Have you looked into Ag Chemical Companies because that is a growing industry no pun intended and you could be a rep for the chem supplier or disturber there is a lot to be done there.

>>753300303
See >>753300435
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>>753300807
I live in TX so naturally I'm in oil and gas. How would a hard chemistry background transition into a supplier position? Is that not more sales related?

Thanks for the tip OP, good thread
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>>753300435
How stupid isnt that on a scale, tell me. You pick the person who waste time uploading his or her personal information to the web for others to mine. From my perspective you pick the person who is lazy, dont do much at work, is a bit naive and maybe not the most clever. And you too are a bit naive, as if whatever information they put on social webpages is the actual truth?

But maybe youre in showbizz where its an actuall skill to talk alot of shit whole day long. In the end stuff dont make themself and even if you have skilled labor it dont matter if they dont want to work. What matters are work ethics and discipline. Instead the kind of human you employ is most likley a narcissist liar well done.

Its mostly random luck if you get a high position, my little sister is in the same shoes as you and she kew nothing when she started out. Shes just good at talking to people and making connections.
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Hey OP. I'm young, working for Samsung Electronics, currently going to be studying Artificial Intelligence Engineering. You think I will go far?
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>>753301016
It would translate VERY well. If you worked for lets say Helena you could do very well for yourself. It is sales related but you need to understand MSDS and modes of action and AI and rates and Label Restrictions etc etc. You could also work as the chemical vendor contact for distributors and buyers and then you actually need background. You need to know your chemistry on why things work and how. You would also be buying from suppliers knowing your buyers needs and why, having a background in chemistry really helps your buyers know they can trust that you are offering them the best product. A lot of buyers do not have the chem background, we are just business and the chemistry is an after thought we rely on people like you.
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>>753287243
Another question OP.
How important is to know more languages?
Also, what languages are the best to know in your experience?
I'm currently studying chinese and spanish since those are the most spoken apparently.
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>>753287243
Do you support Trump?
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>>753301747
I'm not OP, but AI is huge right now. Keep studying. Take an internship in something AI related so you can say you have related experience.

Go for a masters, too. You probably won't get work in AI without it.
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>>753302231
I'm not OP, but the languages you're learning depends mostly on what industries you're planning on going into. Mandarin is good for general stuff, because they're in a lot right now.

Spanish is only good if you're going to be doing work south of the border. Spain itself isn't doing so great right now and probably never will.

India will probably be the next major manufacturing country.
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>>753302253
Yeah, plan to do so. I'm 18, got an early start in college during High School. Have parents to back me up with school tuition. I was originally going to master in hardware engineering, but AI has definitely caught my eye the last few years.
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>>753302438
Hardware is also good money (they need someone to design those tensor chips), but it's best to do what you're more interested in.
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>>753301630
You sound like you're pretty bitter about the sister thing. People waste time in all sorts of ways. I don't care what they as long as it doesn't effect what they do when they are at work. I could say a lot more about what you wrote, although I know nothing I say will change that shitty attitude of yours, and I would bet it doesn't get you far in life. Good luck though Anon.

>>753301747
Haha, I think most people change careers like 8 times before they settle (there is some statistic) that said Samsung seems to be a major player. I have no information and probably less then you if you are being truthful. If I was you, I would work 5 hours more then anyone else, show up 15 minutes earlier then everyone and LOVE that company into retirement.
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>>753300012
You must have a shitty personality then.
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>>753302231
This depends on what industries you will be in and where. I will say this as someone who is not bilingual I love hiring people who are. This is a pretty reasonable post >>753302253
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>>753302652
Trust me, after a few years there the personality was cultivated, not magically manifested out of thin ait. I'm the nicest guy on campus at face value, but I've learned to just bottle it up and save it for home. It's shitty but that's what we have to do these days.
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>>753302198
Can you give me some example job titles so I can search properly? I'm really only familiar with the technical side of industry. Thanks a lot
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I'm 20 years old, in med school right now, and overwhelmed with the workload. Do you have any quick tips on how to not procrastinate and get shit done?
I just force myself through it with coffee and no sleep, but I doubt that's healthy in the long run.

Any habits in and outside of work that you could recommend?

Great thread btw. Can't relate to everything but you seem to have your life sorted out and I'm learning alot.
How old are you, OP?
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>>753287243
When applying, how much does selecting a minority demographic on the EOE section matter?

what about military?

Disability?

All of this assuming its in the tech industry.
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im currently sort of in high school (europe)what would you recommend to me to gain financial success
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>>753302968
I am in the Ag industry I work with Helena and I know they and a lot of others use
https://www.agcareers.com/
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>>753287243
Final question OP.
Well, more than a question, I would like you to share some wisdom. What is the best advice you can give to us anons regarding work, life, etc?
Thanks for this thread by the way, you've been quite helpful.
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>>753302626
And a person who spend alot of time on Facebook is more likley to play with the phone during work then someone who dont.

Im set for life, I have a great work and I love my little siss. Dont need more luck im already among the 1% so spend that wish on someone who ask for it OP. And try to employ some decent people, youre ruining your company and robbing them of the great future they could have had without you.

Or just accept your failure and let the HR department do the exakt same thing as you do. Im sure they can find someone that do the exact same poor job as you do but for a much lower salary.
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>>753291142
Did you learn that over the phone reference? That's illegal, but we all know they actually do it. How do you feel about CA not allowing criminal status to be reported to employers? Or how do you feel about the hiring regulations in the state of CA. I just moved because it was crushing my ability to run a business the way I wanted.
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>>753302950
>we
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My dude I make about 4.5k a week I do medical home delivery(pills and whatnot) The tips are about $10 a stop and i do between 20-30 stops a day. I only have a highschool diploma lol there's a job out there for everyone, you just gotta have connections
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>>753303367
>not healthy in long run
you're not in med school for the long run, you just need to pass. some shit late nights are inevitable even if you don't procrastinate.
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>>753303781
I agree, and I am prepared to work late shifts.
My question is leaning towards how to cope with a high workload and stress in general. I don't want this current habit of mine to stay with me for the rest of my life.
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>>753303367
I am 35. So this will sound sill but the times I feel the most stressed or overwhelmed or like I can't focus etc. Working out, doing something so physical that all you are thinking about is the physical action. REALLY clears my head and helps me so so much. It doesn't need to be weights just anything physically tough.

Also you will hate hearing this but video games (I love them like all guys) wear on you mentally, you will not feel like like doing homework after 3 hours of league. Also Personally I have done NO-FAP and I think I saw a lot of more motivation in my attitude.

>>753303412

I am in chemical Ag lol that said, no one cares if you are a minority or not. If we think you are some extremist left or right lol we will call you with a decision lol. I will always try to hire a vet, I think that is one of the hardest jobs in the world regardless of political stance or if they were a none educated person with no life before they joined. They risk their lives knowingly or unknowingly and if you can make it through basic you can work hard and take direction.

As long as your disability doesn't effect your job IDC.

The truth is guys, companies want to make money, we dont care if you are black or white or a fucking unicorn. We care about profit.
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OP I currently have a criminal record which is making it impossible not only to get a job but even a place to stay. My charges are not felonies but one in particular looks bad on a background report. I was charged with unlawful carry of a weapon and marijuana possession under 2 ounces (My pistol was fully legal and stored legally in my car but when police find drugs and guns, it becomes unlawful carry). Even when I explain the situation to potential employers, my application is denied. How fucked am I later on in my life? I am in college and trying to get internships but the background check always gets in the way so I am stuck doing bullshit jobs just to pay the bills. What else can I do to make my situation better? Any advice? Thanks.
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>>753303367
I'm not OP but I am a Software Engineer, my degree was Computer Engineering so a lot of the courses I took were difficult.

The biggest habit I formed early on was discipline. I would wake up at 6 AM sharp on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. I'd take a shower, and then go to the school gym and exercise. After I came back, I would work on projects for my internship and make money.

I kept a strict bedtime of 10 PM and would take 3 mg of melatonin at 9 PM to make sure I would regularly fall asleep close to 10 PM.

My recommendation would be to do something like this. Make time for yourself in the morning where you have nothing to do, and dedicate it to schoolwork instead.
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>>753303723
>4.5k/wk
>200-300/day in tips
???

Stay in school kids
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>>753304324
I'm not the guy who posted that, but I'm not seeing the issue here. Can you elaborate?

Thanks.
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>>753304660
300*7=2100
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>>753304817
quick maffs
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>>753304817
Is the issue that half his earnings are in tips?
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>>753304965
And that he makes $50/hr plus tips as a delivery driver
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>>753288397
What do you think about Daniel Kahneman's mathematical proof that people who take decisions at business level very often don't do it better than a random toss of a coin? He's a Nobel Prize in Economic Science, after all.
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I make ~55k with great benefits but have no drive to strive for more. I'm totally comfortable where I am at and cant imagine that the amount of effort and work it would take to be OP would be worth the money. It's just money, guys
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>>753303517
Finish School, make the right friends, you will be where your friends are, you will BE what your friends are. Stay yourself and make sure that self is a good person. Study ethics and morality. Love others especially when they don't deserve it.

>>753303548
See above ^^

>>753303603
Almost all of our employees have specific tasks that at a macro level creates a beautiful company, do your tasks and goals. If you don't you will be let go. I had an employee do an EOY 200k production, 40k over his next peers goal. Literally give 0 fucks if he checks FB lol. We are all professionals you were hired because I figure you can be responsible.
As someone who has worked low income jobs, hire income jobs expectations are VERY different of at work behavior. The other day I had a business lunch, on company time, on a company card, we ordered alcohol, lunch was 2 hours long. No one cares.

>>753303655
Haha you are correct it is illegal if that happens. That said people are people. CA is AWFUL for businesses, people don't realize how bad it is until they try to run one. I think not being allowed what a criminal conviction was for, especially a felony offense is awful and frankly pun intended criminal. I once almost hired someone to work in one of our offices full of girls, he had a felony but it was 6 years ago and they guys seemed very nice. During a rock crawling event, I happened to see the owner of the previous company he had worked for when the event happened an we were introduced via a mutual friend. Later in the night it came up I was going to hire this guys, come to find out it was for an egregious physical assault on a jogger, some thought attempted rape. Needless to say I was very relieved to get the full picture.
I think workman comp is a sham especially with California's "Great compromise". I work in a heavy cert required industry it is awful and expensive.
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>>753305213
A mathematical proof on human behavior? Yeah that seems reliable
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Since anons seem to be interested in this, I will add a couple things from my experience as a manager who hired people in a technical field (up until I stepped down to be part-time).

The social media thing is real, we scour the hell out of it for applicants we are interested in. Sadly, too many get cut from consideration due to stupid shit they put out there. Like OP said, nobody wants drama, a gun lover (although I hunt myself - just love them all you want offline) or a complainer. Maybe it was just a phase someone grew out of, but I wouldn't take a chance.

People skills: not critical for an entry level job, but exponentially more critical as you move up. I'm not saying be a kiss-ass but don't piss people off, even if you are right / even if you can get away with it. Communicate effectively. For me, communication skills and a reputation for 100% honesty/no bullshit were probably the top reasons I moved up a couple times. People above you are busier than hell and they don't want people wasting their time. Be clear, direct, honest. It's actually OK to say you fucked up if you know why you won't do that same thing again.

And college pranks need to be retired when you enter the workforce. Pull them on your friends but not at work.

If you want to be noticed, do a little extra. If your boss comes in early, come in a little early. If your boss stays late, stay late sometimes. If there's a real crush, show up on a Saturday and get caught up (and send some emails so people can see you were there without you having to call attention to it).
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>>753305289
Why settle for average? It only takes a little bit of extra effort each day for a few years to make more.
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>>753302626
Late reply; but I am being truthful. Graduated highschool this year and managed to get a job here. I've been outperforming those who have been here for a year or two, most likely will be "promoted" soon. Better pay, less work. Though, I plan to focus on school primarily when the fall comes again.

It's been neat working here, I've done work for Samsung's social media as well.
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>>753304246
For a major company like google etc, you are likely not getting a job. That said something like 90% of all companies and a large portion of our GDP is actually business under 40 people. That will be your target. I would be very honest and take ownership of your bad decisions, call them bad decisions and you are regretful at your youthful stupidity. Humility in the face of a mistake shows character, types of characters that don't make poor decisions like that anymore.

Don't make excuses, don't blame the cop etc etc. It was you and a mistake you made and regret and you are NOT that person.
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>>753305402
Of course you need to set some measurable concepts. For example, imagine that OP were an investor. We could compare his decisions with a random decision of buying or selling assets, and extend this to thousands of employees and decisions if we had access to the transaction databases that they did (something that Daniel Kahneman did)
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>>753305482
Would you be skeptical of someone without much of an online presence?
I dont have facebook, insta, etc.
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>>753287243
I can get interviews all day long. But as soon as I answer a question honestly, its over. W/E, one of these days I'll meet someone who wont want to start a working relationship with lying to each others face....The best people that I ever hired were the ones that told the truth.
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>>753305564
I mean, why? I have enough money to go about my daily life comfortably and buy things I want. Should I put more effort in so I can have a job I don't like? Eventually I'll die and my net worth will be as meaningless as everything else was so I might as well focus on enjoying myself
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>>753287243
Did you know anyone that works at that company before you started working at that company?
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>>753290142
this nigga uses the app I build!
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>>753305679
Would you hire me after seeing the background check? Or would you immediately throw out my resume even if the charges (no conviction) were years ago
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>>753287686
FUCKING FACTS GUYS THIS IS THE BEST YOU'RE GETTING TO A LIFE IMPROVEMENT POST
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>>753305759
The main motivator for me is so I can retire earlier than 65. I personally feel it's ridiculous we're all expected to work until we're nearly dead.
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>>753305213
There are lies, damn lies and then there are Statistics. Do you think Warren Buffet was JUST lucky?
Luck does play its part, your job is to curve it so you win 51% of the time.

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>>753305482
Everyone should read this ^^^

>>753305669
That is a great contact/bridge don't burn it, awesome to see that on a resume or portfolio as well. GJ Anon.
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>>753305722
No, that's not a problem. Unless your job is in social media, of course - then you better be findable!
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>>753292161
This nigga didn't finish the degree i have!

Starting to think this nigga is me from the future
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>>753305937
Oh I forgot to mention I am independently wealthy from crypto that I recently translated to USD. Fucking wagecucks hahahahahah
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>>753287243
Has your company been hit with any IP infringement suits?
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>>753306053
In that case, why work at all? Why not just travel the world or some shit
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>>753305818

Think I answered that somewhere above, maybe not. I was in upper management for another company (doing slightly similar things). I made a friend that worked for my current company, about a year into our friendship, I was asked to come in and was presented with a contract for employment.
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>>753306183
I'm only wealthy enough to never work again without living extravagantly. Anyway I love my job and would probably do it for free if someone provided the resources for me.
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>>753305482
>The social media thing is real
reason #20945 I dont have a faceyspace or twittygram.
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>>753306035
Maybe I am you :P
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>>753305679
from my experience in work acknowledging your mistakes even when it was only partially your mistake is a very bad idea. I know people talk about being honest, respectful, and owning up to your mistakes but, the truth is your average fifty year old is just going to think you're an idiot and responsible because you acknowledged being responsible resulting in you discrediting yourself. If you mention to an office manager that there are twenty people on the clock from 0730 to 1000 they're just going to say that's none of your business or that's how this works.

Your implying that somehow in the corporate world people have a profound sense of logic and ability to non biasly criticize character for both it's good and bad. The truth however is that people making decisions in the corporate world is barely any different than 5 men after 4 beers and a joint trying to get a sofa down the stairs.
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>>753303603
Dude, you gotta get you some sweet to go with all that bitter. Seriously, seek help.
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>>753287243
Thousands of people made more than you in bitcoin with no work.
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>>753306387
Correction *20 people on the clock and half of them working.
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>>753305292
If everyone is happy with that why complain but its not a place id like to work at. Sure seem to be a fancy work you have there congratulations.

Then we are the polar opposites, I dont mind if the employees cant keep up or dont produce enough as long as they do what their best. But I have a suggestion for you, let that guy who overproduce go home earlier every day instead of wasting his life just sitting there checking Facebook because he is bored. Its the same thing, you still reach that production goal.
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>>753306437
Get ready for the greatest pump and dump of all time lad
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>>753287243

Did your dad look at your resume before hiring you?
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>>753305954
I don't think anything, I just say there is a Nobel Prize in Economy Science that wrote several papers saying (in summary) that luck is everything, because the system is so complex you can't do better than randomness. Of course if you have priviledged information, contacts, illegal stuff, whatever, then it's something different, but if Buffet didn't have that, then he is just the one who had to win to compensate for the others who didn't, to have the average around the random 50%
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I hate my job and i hate dealing wi th people and i only do it to support my family. Its fucking hell and im stuck
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>>753290683
This
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>>753306137
>>753287243
>Has your company been hit with any IP infringement suits?

ReRoll
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>>753306387
I mean how else would I talk about it then..? If I just say it wasn't my fault, the employer will just assume I am immature or arrogant
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>>753287243
enjoy your cuck check faggot. I wouldn't wipe my dog's ass with those pennies.
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>>753290683
Except then the Mexicans come and do it for $5/hr
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>>753288514

It has nothing to do with "human value". It has to do with market value. You're the one conflating the two. YOU are the one equating money made with someone's inherent worth.

Everyone has equal human value. Not everyone has the same market value.
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>>753287243
wanna like give me money? i work 13 hour days making 18.80 in toronto.. still not enough.
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>>753306387
Sounds like this is right on the money. The times ive admitted fault to try and help out my coworkers has only ended horribly for myself. It was always regrettable
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>>753306387
When business comes down to it, regardless on how large or small. It is people, usually 2 people. One person making the decision on how much they liked the other person. A lot of the times CEOs etc are hired because of their connections not just what they know or experience. It is a lot who they know. It is just people making connections. I promise it is.

Recently I have about umm 90k order of something completely fucked up 4 days late, not delivered as it should be, cost me 10's of thousands of dollars etc etc. Do you think some corporate decision was made and corrected this fuck up? No lol, but the CEO and Western Divisional Manager and the Local regional Manager of one the largest companies in the US in AG, took time to conference called me and makes things right. By right I mean just apologize, inform me it will be corrected next time, etc etc. I was pissed I was going to use another vendor but when it came down to it, it took a couple people working things out as humans to resolve it.

Also I have a minimal criminal record. Class B Misdemeanor.
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>>753305851
>Build
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>>753306223
What was the situation regarding your being assigned the previous similar job. Did you have family or in laws there. Did you know anyone that worked there before you did and what was there role in your getting the previous job. If there was one.
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>>753306583
My father is in prison

>>753306733
Maybe but then maybe they are not insured, and maybe they don't speak English, etc etc. Do you always buy ONLY the cheapest of something? Why not?
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>>753288216
Fast food? Employees are worth less than nothing in fast food

If you are short on your cash register you get written up, being short means missing $2 or more. 3 write ups = fired

That's what they think of their emplyoees
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>>753306672
Well depending on the situation you have to kind of gauge who is asking and why. If it's petty and overall irrelevant or someone's actually needs to know. You just act like you're not sure what they're talking about and say "yea, not sure" so you can actually do the job you have to get done. Or you can accept responsibility for leaving the computer monitor on before you left and listen to someone explaining the severity of your mistake for 35 minutes.
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I haven't worked in 7 years. Prior to that I had a couple decent professional IT jobs.

How do I address the 7 year gap not to get my resume thrown away by HR? Just lie?
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>>753306672
That's exactly what he's going to assume if you acknowledge your mistake. Given the fact that less than 20% of people are emotionally strong enough to acknowledge that a mistake was there's and not result of distraction and a flawed system. Right of the bat your going to be accepting responsibility for more mistakes therefore seen as responsible for more mistakes.
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>>753307016
Good questions. I did not know anyone. I actually was let go aka fired from a job before that job, however the CSO of the company I was fired referred me the job and was a reference for me. I was handed off to them. The reason I was fired is complicated and it involved going over my bosses head. Being right, but wrong at the same time. Sometimes corporate things do get in the way.
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>>753292389

No, you've been rejected by positions at Google and Amazon.

Both of those companies have hundreds, if not thousands, of teams, each with their own hiring manager. Want to work at Amazon or Google? Keep applying for relevant positions. Then apply some more. Then apply some more. I've interviewed at Amazon for a few different positions so far. But I still want to work there, and I'll keep applying. Eventually, I might be chosen for a position. If not, I'll work elsewhere.
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>>753287243
i've got a question.

I actually just lost my job- fired because of code quality. I don't want to be a developer anymore, but it's what I do to make money.

What did you want to be when you were a kid? What did you dream of being? Is that what you're doing now?

If you're not doing what you dreamed you wanted to do, doesn't it make you sad?

I was making 120k and i like nice things, but i'm seriously considering pursuing comedy and music instead.
thoughts?
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>>753288079

net pay you fucking retard
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>>753297850
I understand that but that is just a stupid fucking system. What about passion? Does that not even matter?

Pick based on money and my life will be unhappy and unfulfilling
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>>753307361
7 year gap is VERY rough. I probably would not hire you. Unless like god himself came down and gave me a reference. I would tell them you were medically disabled and you wanted to make sure you were healthy before you came back to work, drop the C word too.... They legally cant ask questions and youll be a hero.
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>>753307612
can attest. google flew me to mountain view to interview with them. i didn't get the position.

it takes a lot of time dude, it's really hard.

>>753307696
samefag^
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>>753288216
pretty much this >>753294976

I have a buddy who works for his uncle laying fiber. I know guys making 50k-60k a year literally digging holes and they are all fucking retards, alcoholics and meth heads.
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>>753288216
my dad does asbesthos and hazardous material abatement and they can never find dudes who are up to the task. it pays well and you're fully protected with gear. it's hard work though and that's why most people don't do it.
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>>753307754
I would strongly recommend picking up a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

>it's just a stupid system

It's a system that works and makes money for the businesses involved.

>what about passion

If passion pays the bills and advances the company's goals, you better believe they'll look for it
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>>753307361

What the hell have you done for 7 years. Must be SOMETHING. If it's truly "sat in mom's basement, jacking into socks, playing vidya, and eating Chee-Tos", you're fucked.

Did you go to school? Build something cool for a hobby? Travel? Move, making job-finding harder?
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>>753307845
You have a buddy and know guys. I'm going to cite you in my next book
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>>753308032
fuck off with your Ayn Rand
gross.
doesn't endless narcissism and greed get old
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>>753308095
Yes, I have a friend who works for his uncle. Crazy right?
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>>753307696
I grew up extremely poor both parents were severe drug addicts. When I was a kid, I wanted to not to sleep in a car, and I dreamed of being a Cop. I am not doing that now. I could never be a cop.

It doesn't make me said because it allows me to do what I want usually 3 days a week (I work 4 10 normally....normally lol I am working always) However I will be able to retire early and give to my friends and do the things I want. I am very blessed and happy.

Also a starving person doesn't turn down food because he doesn't like how it tastes. :P

I would be responsible make sure you are debt free saving and do your passions as a hobby, maybe one day it will be more but don't jump 2 feet in.
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>>753308145
Neatly answers the post I was addressing, whether you like it or not
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>>753287243
>bragging on 4chan on a Friday night
lulz
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>>753308032
I've realized that I can basically set out on whatever I want to do, any of it is possible but god damn I can't help but have an existential crisis every time I go to work. It's complete slavery

I would do marketing or computer tech but my passion is in philosophy and psychology
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Op what do i do about being in a trade job that i hate but being stuck because i have to support my family?
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>>753287243
OP I recently started a Roth IRA with 500$. I'm 26. I've had a 401k already started sometime back but don't know what to diversify my roth ira with. I will be adding more to it soon but what should I invest it in? whats good? what will get me huge returns long term?

Advice?
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