If conservatives are so good with economics, then how come all red states (like alabama, oklahoma, and west virginia) are 3rd world country trailer parks and blue states (like new york, washington state, and california) are major economic centers?
>>753271889
what the fuck is with all this left/right shilling on this site now
fuck off to >>>/pol/
Because blue state people cannot live in rural areas, they dont have what itd take. Blue states have made their people dependant on urbam areas, and stores, and concrete roads and.sidewalks and other man made shit. they cant move out of the cities/states because most all their money goes back into the state while whatever left goes to stupid shit like shoes and electronics and unneeded car parts.
on a even more damning example, look to the economies of Wisconsin and Minnesota over the last 7 years. Same population, same climate, same industries. But Wisconsin under republicans with thier ideas, failing to grow and declining economically, while Minnesota under democrat ones grew steadily during the same period.
>>753271889
The blue states make all the money, except Texas, who would break off the US as a whole and become their own country if allowed.
>>753272504
And you know what man does? He adapts the environment to himself, instead of adapting to the environment.
You only reinforce the OP's point, they'd convert the 3rd world shithole states into something more given the chance.
>>753272504
>so basically you are mad at blue states for rising out of shit rural life and graduating into a better method of society? Dumbass. And how about all the hicks who come into the big cities and can't even navigate down a city block without getting confused or lost? "they dont have what it takes" LMFAO oh like the trailer trash red states dont drive to the city every week to buy products from evil globalist scum walmart. Shut up dumby
>>753272487
i think it's because /pol/ is oriented to the right. we need another containment board oriented to the left, to isolate all the leftist commies.
>>753272703
I don't think that's necessarily due to the conservative aspect of Texas, though. California could basically be a top 10 country in terms of economics on it's own, but not just because it's blue.
>>753272504
Is this bait or are you just a retard?
>>753272703
What the fuck is going on in Denver?
>>753272487
Seriously. These wannabe huffpo or Breitbart bloggers are the new bronies.
>>753271889
1. crony capitalism
2. white guilt
3.you forgot that many blue states like Illinois and California are broke. Illinois cant pay their bills and their bond rating is one step above junk.
4. You forgot that many red states like Arizona and Florida do pretty well.
Nigger have you ever even been to Washington state? Literally drive 5 minutes outside of the metro areas in any direction and you find the same hillbilly shit holes. People who think dump trailer parks are something contained to the southern states are retarded.
>>753273925
not to mention all the homeless camps all up and down the west coast
>>753273870
Cali is broke?
lol
>>753271889
Conservatives are good with money, but one of the largest prevailing notions of conservatives is that they don’t need help, particularly from the government
The red states are poorer because in order to have a lot of money, you typically need to have a lot of resources. That ranges from materials, to populations, to money itself.
Conservatives with a lot of money will bond with conservatives with no money by saying “we don’t need anyone’s help to get rich”, which is really only true for the rich people, but conservatives believe otherwise
Poorer states typically don’t have many resources, think of an Alabama export that isn’t racism and tell me how prevalent you think their product is in the national market
Alabama “drains” federal resources because they don’t have a lot to give in the first place
>>753273331
Poor boy has the tism
>>753273136
the majority of the population are slightly left or right leaning moderates who disagree on a handful of fairly minor issues and have very little in common with tumblrjsws or /pol/tards.
when antifa starts swaming this site en masse, maybe we'll make a containment board for them. until then, alt-brights and frogposters need to head back to /pol/ and mods need to do a better job of keeping them from shitting up the quality of nearly every popular board.
>>753274083
Several cities have gone bankrupt, and the state cant figure out how to meet its pension obligations. Too many prople on the government payroll.
>>753271889
cause conservatives have been under the control the wealthy people who would rather keep as much money as possible regardless of how it affects the peasant population
>>753274494
Source?
>>753273626
this. I come to /b/ to get away from the endless shitposting polcunts
>>753274415
Lol no
If antifags want to shitpost on the whole site, we will just push back as hard
Giving in to their bullshit is enabling them to shitpost further
>>753273484
Marijuana, legalizing it was an economic boom
>>753274535
google "California Pension Crisis"
KPIX San Francisco
September 25, 2017
>>753271889
How come all those high population blue states want to make all the red states into "national monuments" by confiscating the land that has been protected and maintained by the rural people for hundreds of years. Especially since the red states residents have befouled the land, rivers, lakes, and natural wildlife in their own areas? I mean, the blue states don't have a clue on how to preserve nature, but they want to block off the people in red states from being in their own backyard.!
>>753273262
Most of that population and wealth are still concentrated in and around a handful of large, generally blue urban centers though.
Even the large cities in Texas like Houston are at the very least politically divided on a local level and often sway liberal like Dallas, and then you have places like Austin which are very liberal, and are much better cities with higher incomes and qualities of life in general outside of a political context, coincidentally.
>>753271889
only marxists are good with economy
>>753271889
Explain Texas then OP.
>>753273626
Exactly. I follow almost every news source in the world on Twitter. I don't need idiots on /b/ regurgitating something that someone else has said much better 30 times per day. Who the fuck are these faggots talking to? Do they think that there are a lot of American voters on /b/?
>>753271889
Look at the presidents since 1980. A clue there.
Reagan -- Two economic crisis, especially Black Monday in 1987.
Bush Sr. -- Another economic crisis
Clinton -- Eliminates deficit, paying down national debt
Bush Jr. -- Worst economic crisis since the Great Depression
Obama -- Pulls us out of depression, 84 straight months of financial growth
Trump -- We'll see. So far he and the other R's haven't changed anything, so the growth continues
>>753273626
Invaders straight off leftypol
I boggles my mind how nu-/b/ hasn't fixed this yet
>>753274788
So it’s not that there’s too many people on the pay roll
But that the depression in the 2000s wasn’t accounted for in the booming 90s economy
Because its not that too many people are working for the government, but that the way the projected they would pay for increases set in a prosperous time, the stock market, was wrong
Surely having less people on the payroll would help the crisis, but that’s like saying having less people in poor countries would solve a hunger crisis >>753274840
>don't have a clue on how to preserve nature
Isn’t the answer to that “don’t fuck with it and stop other people from fucking with it”
Because once you exert influence on nature it stops being nature
>>753273626
>These wannabe huffpo or breitbart bloggers are the new bronies.
i'm not sure what huffpost has to do with it, but those /pol/tard breitfarters aren't the new equivalent of bronies, they're the exact same spergvirgin bronies who were always here, grown up and gotten political.
>>753275236
Obama pulls us out...yeah be printing a shitload of money, bailing people out, and devaluing the dollar.
This is why people are flocking to Bitcoin. USD sucks as a store of value.
>>753275236
>Obama pulls us out of depression
LUL
People admit it was the weakest rebound in history following a depression.
You lying fuck.
Every time we have a depression we have a large boom that follows.
Obama couldn't even drive the car that was always going the correct direction.
>>753275250
>leftypol
>nu-
any more /pol/ buzzwords you'd like to toss around? you're part of the containment board leak problem, and you need to go back.
>>753271889
Because only rich people can afford to be democrats.
>>753273091
>when newfags don't know how to greentext
>>753271889
this retarded
>>753275641
Hello newscum
Glad to see you still know nothing of board culture
Soon we'll take care about your kind
>>753275250
They chased tripfags and furries away (for the most part); they chased the horsefuckers away and gave them their own board. Somehow these clowns have gotten away with spamming the fuck out of /b/ for over a year.
>>753272703
stay mad kid
>>753273262
but it would still be bankrupt
>>753275236
>Obama
>84 months of growth
Which is why 6 years into his presidency people still thought we were in a depression.
Get fucked shill.
>>753275533
>people are flocking to bitcoin
lol. crypotocurrency is still niche as fuck and virtually no one actually has or cares about bitcoin; it's little more than speculative gambling. it's not based on the trade of goods or services or backed by any real resource or economy, and only has the value that people pretend it has. it's not even impervious to hackers literally stealing tens of millions of its pretend dollars on a regular basis and almost nothing in the real world accepts it as payment in the first place, so good luck convincing people it's a safe investment.
>>753274576
>we
>them
you're all faggots who will never make a difference
>>753274110
this retarded
>>753275907
you couldn't be a more obvious /pol/shit if you tried. you really need to go back.
>>753275945
Your dad just died.
>>753274498
sure kid
>>753276024
>Perceived value
Basically everything, period.
>>753275098
sure kid
>>753274110
Alabama currently ranks 4th in the nation for vehicle exports.
Steel producers Outokumpu, Nucor, SSAB, ThyssenKrupp, and U.S. Steel have facilities in Alabama and employ over 10,000 people.
The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company operates a large plant in Gadsden that employs about 1,400 people. It has been in operation since 1929.
Since September 2015, Airbus has opened an A320 Family jetliner final assembly line in Mobile, Alabama – officially called the Airbus U.S. Manufacturing Facility.
But they don't make Facebook, so they are irrelevant. I'll take the tires, thanks.
>>753275236
sure kid
Conservatives aren't smart.
>>753272703
Adjust for population density and find out you’re retarded.
>>753275627
he could steal it though
>>753275236
>So far he and the other R's haven't changed anything
they're trying their hardest to pass the same kind of economy-destroying tax legislation that led to the crises caused by every other republican president, and have plans to slash social security, medicare and medicaid next year. it's not hard to guess what will happen if they succeed.
>>753276140
A majority of people aren't smart.
Point?
>>753273870
All the blue states are broke because they have a fuckton of welfare recipients who vote blue.
>>753276070
a little late there champ
>>753276068
Nice argument there
>>753276046
Just take a look around you
>>753276140
sure kid
they're rich
>>753276010
>people still thought we were in a depression.
people think the earth is flat despite overwhelmingly obvious evidence to the contrary, too.
nobody who actually follows or understands economics thought we were still in a recession (nobody thought we were in a depression in the first place, btw)
>>753271889
>implying liberals are the ones making all the money in the blue states
>>753274576
see the problem is that antifags are virtually nonexistent on here, and your dumb extremist ass is just "pushing back" against the 85% majority.
which is why we constantly tell you to go back to your containment board, you mouth breathing retard.
>>753276325
sure kid
he sucked
this is common knowledge
>>753273136
There's no such thing as a "containment board" anon unless it's something easily ban on sight like ponyfags.
>>753271889
>>753272703
>>753272615
>>753274083
>>753274975
and probably more I just got tired of reading your shit.
Where the fuck do you idiots think all that wealth comes from? Those economic blue states are dependent on the raw materials generated from everywhere else. It's like how Apple was for a long time. Steve Jobs got all the credit, when he actually wasn't able to do any of the coding himself. Just because those blue states (NY, CA, MA) have the wealth channeling through them doesn't mean the red states don't contribute. But what can I expect, a Leftists worst enemy is an economics textbook.
>>753276228
you do understand that the actual number of welfare recipients by state and how much we spend on them is publicly available knowledge, and that red states are the overwhelming beneficiaries of entitlement programs, right?
>>753271889
Conservatives keep the lower class interests and fears at hand. Gun Control, Christianity, 'merica freedom/pride. It's how they keep them on board against what truly benefits them. Conservative interests do not benefit the common man, but by holding their ideologies they keep them on a leash.
They did the same shit in the Antebellum era up till the southern secession. Slavery did not benefit the common man (In fact it made things more difficult for them), so the elites used southern pride, "You don't want niggers to be as good as you, right?" rhetoric to keep them in check.
When did it become dumb to figure out how to do something for themselves?
>I run my own rain water collection and stream filtration system for 90% of my water
>use it to help raise chickens and several south african sheep
>I raise my own garden
> have full time job
>get called backwards cause YOU need other people to survive.
Not even conservative.
>>753276109
All of those a drop in the bucket compared to China. Small industry by international standards. Because even with a minimum wage as low as Alabama's, American manufacturers are losing rapidly the competitiveness they had left. If Trump axes NAFTA, you can kiss the auto industry goodbye.
It's true that tech is an overrated sector of the economy, but all those jobs you listed off before, are vulnerable. Also, many of them are shit-tier jobs that will leave you fucking scraps for savings after you work into your 70s.
>>753276228
Lol no. If any of them are broke it's because they get more taken from them and it's sent on red state leeches.
>>753276599
He doesn't let facts get in the way of his feels, he feels blues are giant welfare states so they are.
>>753276433
common knowledge that /pol/, fox and breitbart continue to close their eyes, plug their ears and chant that he sucked over and over to themselves in a dark corner, sure.
>>753276599
states don't collect welfare sweetie, people do.
>>753276619
you're thinking of the blacks and latinos kid
>>753276835
yawn
this retarded
>>753276716
Angry because he has no other clean source of water besides filtered rain, and needs to grow food and raise livestock in his hovel.
You know, before your kind took to calling it a "homestead", we had a different word for that: fief.
Enjoy working the fields, peasant. Let your lords keep telling you you're self-reliant and strong.
>>753276518
So you're slaves not getting paid for the contributions you make? It's being gobbled up by the big bad blue states?
You hicks are dumber than I thought.
>>753276725
Alabama doesn't have to support China's population.
Cost of living is much lower in Alabama, compared to the coasts. I'm sure those jobs support a decent standard of living.
All jobs are vulnerable to AI. Greed will prevent any meaningful redistribution of wealth. So now we choose: soylent green and follow the rules in the cities, or back to farming, with a bit more freedom in the rural areas.
We're all getting left behind.
>>753271889
They arent poor because theyre republican, theyre republican coz theyre poor.
>>753276518
you're basically arguing that conservatives are like dumb tribals in africa who have infinite wealth of land and resources at their fingertips yet live in mud huts, while liberals come in and use those "conservative" resources to create their wealth.
>a Leftists worst enemy is an economics textbook.
sure, which is why republicans consistently introduce the most widely devastating economic legislation in our country's history all meant exclusively to benefit the rich, while democrats have had to repeatedly clean up after them after they leave the middle class in shambles.
>>753276716
You check your states laws on that?
It's illegal in some places to collect rain water.
>>753276801
i wonder how much this accounts for federal employees.
>>753276968
cool ad hom, /po/shit. you need to go back.
Are you stupid? Trailers are cheaper than... whatever the fuck you have in your state. If everyone's living humbly, everyone has more money. That's why your state is failing, dingus, because you spend all your money on pretty-but-nonfunctional shit. I bet you have like 12 fidget spinners on your "desk," which is probably just a box or something. It's like if you're dying of cancer and you cover your tumor with a pretty bow. Tumor's not fucking gone, you just made it look pretty and you're not a major economical center, you just spend all your money making it look like you are.
>>753277240
Ive seen him do the same in many political threads, it's sad how buttblasted he is that he goes through the whole thing to make 'sure kid' 'yawn' and 'dis retarded' replies since he doesn't have the mental capacity to actually debate anyone.
GUYS, PRUMBPTHF IS BALDING. NOT. FIT. TO. BE. PRESSUDINT. I'M SERIOUS.
>>753276186
Adjust what? What the fuck are you even implying? That there is more money because there are more people? You say this, then with the next breath tell me how all those blue areas are welfare states too. So which is it... are they making all the money or are they giving all the money away for free?
>>753277400
he trolls /k/ too.
>>753271889
Detroit is in a blue state. Detroit is a hell hole.
>>753276109
>>753276109
I asked how prevalent their exports are in the country
Being the number 4 web browser in the United States doesn’t mean that google, yahoo, and bing don’t take up more than 90% of browser traffic
Citing the American auto industry as a prominent export should tell you how far you’re reaching
Conservatives believe in as small government as possible, because it's their contention that government can't do anything right. They're so determined to prove themselves right, they'll only vote for idiots.
>>753277624
That's because history has shown time, after time, after time that government can't do anything right. This entire fucking country was founded on the idea that government cannot be trusted because it can't do anything right.
>>753277212
The claim doesn't account for anything like federal employees/military, retirees ect....
It also only accounts for income taxes, which are only a part of the federal taxes people pay.
Everyone winds up paying about 30-40% of their income in taxes through all the various federal taxes placed on things.
If you live in a state where it is cheaper to live, so that you can have lower wages, you are going to fall into a lower income tax bracket and pay less of that, because you are already paying your share though other taxes.
Also in states like NY and CA you have collections of the very rich living there who are the ones who pay for the rest of the assholes in the state.
>>753277610
Oh and to add on, being the number 4 web browser doesn’t mean you get 9% of the traffic
>>753277610
Google, yahoo, and bing are search engines.
I have no dog in the Alabama fight. Just wanted to point out there is more than "racism" going on in rural places.
>>753277550
You're kidding, right? First, Detroit is a city, not a state. Michigan, the state, has a republican gov. (Rick Snyder), and both houses are controlled by Republicans.
The condition of Detroit is due to the anti-worker, pro-business policies that state has enacted. Along with the Republican tax policies favoring outsourcing to other countries.
>>753277974
I mean crawlers, not browsers
>>753277557
as if the dems would give a bigger shit than the gop.
>>753277424
Imbecile!
>>753278009
I'm an uneducated, racist rural. How would I know the difference?
>>753277624
They believe in small government when it suits them.
But if it's something they don't like say abortion, weed, or the gays then they have no problem whatsoever throwing as much government as they can make up at it.
>>753277770
Yet they'll pile on the government for anything they don't like, funny that.
>>753278054
Seeing as how the dems are for social safety nets I'd say they do.
>>753277977
But the city is run by a blue mayor. Nobody said Detroit was a state, retard.
>>753278068
I never said you weren’t educated
In fact the first thing that I said was that conservatives were fine with economics, or at least “good with money”
But my main point was that Alabama doesn’t do much for the rest of the country because there isn’t a lot of wealth in those countries
If the tires made in Alabama were actually a large part of the USs supply of tires, that would be impressive because I genuinely do not believe Alabama does much
Just googling it, according to the southern legislative council, less than 2 percent of the USs tires come from Alabama, so Alabama might not even be the number 4 export
https://www.slcatlanta.org/Publications/EconDev/TireManufacturingSouth.pdf
in seven SLC states (West Virginia, Missouri, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana and Virginia) amounted to less than 1 percent of the cumulative amount export-ed by the 50 states in all three review years.The export numbers for the remaining four SLC states amounted to less than 2 percent in two states (Alabama, Oklahoma), less than 3 percent in Georgia and 3.1 percent in North Caroli-na of total U.S. tire exports.
Let me know if I’m citing this out of context, I took like 5 minutes to make this post
>>753278268
Yeah liberals do. That's because they've been indoctrinated to think they need the government for everything.
>>753278701
*in those states
Ugh
I’m typing on my phone and watching tv
>>753271889
ports
>>753272615
Minnesota? You mean Somalia 2: Electric Niggerloo?
>>753272504
I'd consider myself a liberal and grew up farming and live in a rural as fuck area, I live around amish people.
>>753273925
Yup. Same with upstate NY, and California outside its big areas is nothing but hobos and meth labs.
>>753278974
>upstate NY
how's the weather in yonkers?
>>753278755
Stay focused sparky, I was talking about small government republicans that have no problem governing the hell out of their pet peeves like abortion, gays, drugs, religion or whatever else they happen not to like.
The liberals don't pretend to be for small government so there's nothing hypocritical about that.
>>753279558
You forgot the latest. They're cucking for the NRA again, with the reciprocity laws on guns that just passed. Force states to recognize other states laws.
-- Gun owner for reasonable laws.
>>753279966
are you saying reciprocity is a bad thing?
>>753280177
are you saying states shouldn't be able to determine who can and can't carry guns?
>>753271889
Because capitalism does not put money into public works such as roads, schools, or museums. What it does is concentrate wealth in a few greedy pockets which refuse to give it away if at all possible.
>>753280291
are you saying handgun permits are constitutional?
>>753274566
>I can escape politics during the most politically toxic time in the US since Vietnam
>>753279966
>>753280177
The law isn't reciprocal, but rather a one way deal.
A reciprocal agreement such as drivers licenses is two ways. I'll recognize your right to drive, and you recognize mine. And we'll both follow the laws of the state we're in, not where we received the license.
The gun says you must follow the law regarding concealed weapons from the licensing state and get nothing in return, regardless of your state laws.
Especially hypocritical from the party claiming a state rights agenda.
>>753274281
Great scott! The tism of Aus? Heavens protect that poor child.
Who the fuck wants to live in a dry, tornado-fucking, middle-of-nowhere?
Or a fucking swamp?
Or a fucking mountainland with no roads?
Fucking people who DON'T WANT the 'city life'
AND THAT IS WHERE THEY GROW ALL YOUR PRODUCE AND RAISE YOUR MEAT
FUCKING RED STATES HAHA
>>753280812
>SHALL
why wouldn't an individual carrying a handgun outside of his state not follow the local laws of carrying a handgun?
t. you don't carry a handgun.
>>753281218
That's the point of the bill that passed the House.
If you have a permit from one state, ~all~ states must recognize that permit regardless of local laws. It doesn't matter if the state you are visiting prohibits all guns, you can still conceal carry.
>Especially hypocritical from the party claiming a state rights agenda.
This is true. I own guns and plan to keep them. But this law is federalism at its best.
>>753271889
location, look at a map dingus
>>753279070
who the fuck chose that color scheme
>>753282072
>It doesn't matter if the state you are visiting prohibits all guns
idk what state you're from, but sounds like you're behind enemy lines. the right to bear arms is federally protected by the second amendment, which makes carrying a pistol a federal right. obviously this argument belongs in /k/, but i'll conclude with this: my state passes a bill that disallows criticisms towards my state's sportsball team. the state recognizes it as a whole, and the federal government; even though the first amendment is in full effect; can't touch it because "muh state's rights." my state then issues state issued free speech cards to sports newscasters so they can effectively talk about the sportsball team. well your state, and other states, issue free speech cards allowing individuals to have free speech. the federal government passes a bill that recognizes these cards within federal boundaries regardless of what state it's in. even though my state limits speech, which is unconstitutional, has to recognize these cards. i see no problem with handgun reciprocity.
>>753283188
jesus christ that's convoluted
>>753283301
in your eyes maybe.
>>753277904
does living pay check to pay check even mean anything if you have a big ass house and 3 nice cars?
>>753283535
exactly, where's that stupid article about how 50% of americans couldnt afford a $1000 emergency, it's bullshit. they can afford to save money, they choose not to
>>753271889
There's no doubt that the red states are shitholes who suck more federal funds for welfare then they contribute but well fuck- there's no but, they are just trailer park welfare shitholes.
>>753274110
Alabama world #1 producer of peanuts and #2 in paper. Try again fag.
>>753271889
>tfw stocks are the heighest they've been in the history of the country
>tfw insurance rates are going down
>tfw future tax cuts
Washington isnt a major economic center besides seattle you brainlet fuckwit. We need rural areas for agriculture so the vegan shitdicks in cosmopalitan areas can get their organic salads. Get the fuck off 4chan you lefty mongoloid
>implying it’s not because most blue states have big cities while most red states are rural
>>753284170
>producer of penis in teenage girls vaginas
fixec
>>753271889
Because blue states used to be red and red states used to be blue (also red states are full of niggers)
>>753284294
>Washington isnt a major economic center
yes it is you fucking idiot
1. Washington
#1. Washington state scored extremely well on most of our metrics. Its Q2 2015 annualized GDP growth rate was a stunning 8.0%, by far the highest among the states and DC. The November 2015 average weekly wage of $1,073 was the second highest in the country, and was 5.6% higher than the weekly wage in November 2014, the third highest wage growth rate.
SEE ALSO: The 21 best jobs of the future
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>>753273870
>cali
>broke
Oh boy..please refer to this photo of your home..
>>753273870
>2. white guilt
awww did some libawull tell you not to say the "n-word" again, Spunky?
kek
>>753271889
You took our slaves
>>753274415
>antifa
tinfoil detected
>>753274788
just as I thought
you've got nothing and you want other posters to go on a wild goose chase--fuck off
>>753274840
>by confiscating the land that has been protected and maintained by the rural people for hundreds of years.
you are a retard
stop posting
>>753275627
>Obama was a NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
fixed
>>753276109
They why is AL an social and economic shithole, anon?
Can't answer that one, can you?
>>753274083
We are in so much debt retard we just keep getting shit on credit
>>753275100
cow fucking cult followers?
>>753271889
Utah is a very red state
and it has one of the largest tech economies in the US
from '10-'13 Utah is ranked 6th in GDP growth
and 1-5 are North Dakota, Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahomo, Idaho
all were red states in that time period
>>753284933
>debt
lolbertarian detected
>>753284998
Utah has poor white trash, too, anon.
Explain that, if the state is so flush with cash.
>>753272703
Ops argument doesn’t quite hold water. People who live in metropolitan areas are more likely to be less conservative
>Southern states were poor when they were democratic
>they're still poor now that they're republican
>>753272703
>>753271889
Conservatives represent and work for the 0,1%. So how do you win elections? you make use of the most uneducated poor fucks.
This is why most urbanized educated regions voted democrat
>>753271889
conservative (see: classical liberal) economics created your beloved blue states.
socialist economics causes deindustrialization and decay. just look at formerly heavily unionized towns like Cleveland and Detroit and Pittsburgh.
>>753271889
Because the GOP, which used to be conservative, sold out to religious zealots in the late 1970s and became a pro state, pro regulation political party.
We have two pro state parties in this country, no actual conservative parties. They just start with different forms of authority for who gets to tell you what to do: God or black lesbian trans-gendered union laborers.
Turns out red necks are religious. And really bad at economics and personal stability.
>>753285273
>durr hurr socializmszsms
> i has proof
kek
kek
>>753285273
see: Bullshit.
>>753285287
Let me guess. A liberal told you to stop using the "n-word," so they're/we're nazis.
>>753285206
>doesn't know about federal agriculture subsidiaries
>doesn't realize red states are federally paid to grow in excess
>>753285273
Pittsburgh is going through a modern tech revival atm... try again.
>>753276109
Just so you know, that is a red state thing, and what they do is, they love to get cheap labor. those people in alabama don't have the intelligence to ask for more money so major corp will move there to get cheaper labor, and keep all the money within the coporation, keeping the poor people poor. It sucks, but that's the way it is in those gross cities. I live in california...we give 4x more money than we ever get federally. we basically help support those poor ass red states where the rich people keep the poor people poor and living on the government take. no way ALABAMA could support all the people in alabama on welfare, dumbass...some of the money has to come from other states, the major corporations just want people to work there, but not pay a living wage, they want the government to take up the slack which has to come from other states.
>>753272504
So people in 3rd world countries should just stop being pussies. Okay.
>>753277317
>My trailer sucks but at least I didn't buy fidget spinners.
That is by far the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I cannot believe that no one has tried to abort you yet.
>>753285273
>Detroit
went down the shithole because of unregulated capitalism, anon.
The auto industry moved their shit off to Mexico because they fucking could--with no threat of punishment. And then they bankrupted themselves because of shit-tier management.
But you knew that, and talked shit anyway.
>>753285893
What about Detroit and Cleveland
>>753277317
>If no one spends money, the economy grows and everyone will be richer.
That's the opposite of how the economy grows.
>>753276140
college degree???
what kind of shitty barometer is that.
The richest people alive tend to not have a degree since they found it useless wasting your time listening to an outdated quack.
And what kind of degree are we even talking about.
Most college degree's are bloody worthless. Only the higher STEM ones are worth something but even then, these days those degree's tend to be garbage to since they learn stuff that can't be used in practice.
>>753286497
Neither were "socialist" you fuck.
>>753286511
>Most college degree's are bloody worthless.
I can tell you don't have one
kek
>>753286511
>The richest people alive tend to not have a degree
[CITATION NEEDED]
>>753286596
Did I say they were? They're both shitholes anyway, they didn't need socialism to do that
>>753286664
Richard Branson, Zuckerburg, Bill Gates just off the top of my head. Zuck and Gates were drop outs I think but Branson didn't even go
>>753286881
Yeah you did, fuckwad. >>753285273
and if you didn't make that post, then correct the poster who did.
>>753286511
At what level do you think education becomes worthless?
12th grade?
8th?
2nd grade?
>>753286622
I am a programmer. I have degree in biology, i can tell you, my degree is worth as much as a brick.
>>753286664
http://www.businessinsider.com/16-insanely-successful-college-dropouts-2015-6?international=true&r=US&IR=T/#tt-mullenweg-left-the-university-of-houston-to-start-wordpress-9
some off them. A college degree just means that you are a follower that doesn't learn on his own. A degree is a major waste of time. Want to be something, use google and study it on your own, then take a state exam. And if you really need your degree just take an exam only contract at a college. Wasting 3 years on your ass is worthless and leaves you in debt
>>753287013
Cherry picked fucking bullshit, and you know it.
why are you anti-education, anon?
>>753285051
Utah was 13th for average income in '15
25th for cost of living
Utah's unemployment rate is 3.4%, and most economists hold that only people that don't want to work are unemployed if the rate is somewhere between 3% and 5%
Utah is also #1 for charitable donations in the US
so the poor have a strong incentive to move to Utah, people willing to help you get on your feet, plentiful jobs, high income, mid range cost of living
>>753287114
Cool story bro.
Any statistic you read will tell you that college degrees help people get hired.
>>753287114
>some off them.
you implied "most," though.
And it's "of" not "off."
>>753287114
>A degree is a major waste of time
There is literally no evidence that supports this.
>>753287164
>Utah is also #1 for charitable donations in the US
mormons
>>753287164
or they stay poor because the rich people keep all the money
that was kind of my point, anon
>>753287083
Didn't make that post
>>753287310
Then go after that asshole. Do it faggot.
>>753287136
>2nd Richest man in the world
>Cherry picked
How about the richest man in the world?
Amancio Ortega dropped out of high school
>>753283102
I did....sorry
>>753287289
damn mormons
who the fuck do they think they are
helping poor people out
don't they know that is the government's job?
>>753287559
The vast majority of the rich are college-educated.
You're a fucking faggot. Fuck off.
>>753287581
They don't help poor people out, though, anon. If they did, they wouldn't be poor.
Mormons are good at not paying taxes and hiding their wealth through "charitable donations."
>>753287581
yah, but they do it for the sole purpose of converting and brainwashing desperate homeless people.
>>753285005
If is so funny then prove him wrong Instead of saying “lol” like a modern 12 year old
>>753287611
Is that the question? The anon said the richest people alive tend to not have a degree and you asked for citation so now you want to talk about the nameless majority? Fucking retard.
>>753287857
>prove him wrong
not my job to do shit
it's his
>>753287924
It's bullshit. Anon gave one or two examples out of literally thousands or even millions.
>>753287857
All 1st world countries have debt. This is a known red herring lolbertarians use to "gotcha" libs as "tax and spend."
>>753287957
So you are 12
>>753271889
Because they are population based with only serviceing jobs in large citys meanwhile all the other red states are crops and cattel based economic with spreed out people
>>753271889
"major economic centers" yeah in addition to the poverty, homelessness, and unemployment.
>>753288091
Nope. College-educated, actually.
>>753271889
those red states are basically white niggers
>>753288176
Then act like an adult instead of just saying “lol” when criticizing.
>>753271889
nobody on this board gives a single fuck, poltard.
>>753271889
>New York
Port City and probably one of the oldest states, also one of the most populous
>Washington
Capital, so it gets as much tax money as it needs to succeed and also gets the thoroughfare of politicians and journalists and tourists, boosting the economy.
>California
Costal port city that was lucky enough to get a lot of tech investment but doesn't have any water and is burning anyway so gw with that I guess.
Pretty much all countries have a huge disparity between seaside areas and inland areas, because most large and succesful cities are built on the ocean. Why would any of the Central states attract tourism? Why would they attract any kind of boost? Their main things are resources and food and they do that well, but the result of that and the lower population means less government expenditure, lower education standards and weaker economies, resulting in what we see today. Red v Blue has nothing to do with it
>>753271889
Because they base their economy on illegals that are paid nearly nothing?
>>753288364
Sorry that's just how stupid "arguments" should be dismissed
lol
Are we still doing this? I've been looking at porn for hours.
>>753284863
Anyway. Why is Alabama "an" social and economic shithole? I don't know. Maybe ask the homeless in San Diego? Just be sure you've had your immunizations.
>>753286115
No Mexicans working the fields in the valley? Blue states love to get illegal labor so they don't have to pay taxes. So the dumb suckers who are legit can pay an even higher rate.
The whole thread is a false dichotomy. But y'all keep on fightin it out.
>>753288424
>Washington
>the state
revise yourself
>>753287262
All Non-technical majors are definitely a waste of time. You can't tell me that a gender's degree is worth anything.
Biology is also worthless because it is over saturated, there are too many of them.
And for most people a trade school is a better choice, maybe i shouldn't have said that a college degree is worthless, but for most people trying to get one is a waste of time since they either fail or don't learn anything useful.
>>753271889
>if conservatives are so good with economics...
They're not. Literally the only people who think that are conservatives.
>>753288424
>Why would any of the Central states attract tourism?
They do, anon. People take vacations there, eat there, get away from it all, there.
Ever heard of Storm Chasing? Fishing? Hunting? Watching sunsets?
>>753288681
>Biology is also worthless because it is over saturated, there are too many of them.
they're good if you are able to continue a course of study past undergrad.
>>753288633
>durr whatabout dat state
so nothing
you can't explain why Alabama is supposedly such an economic powerhouse, but has the poorest and stupidest people in the country.
Is that why California is begging for money while their state burns to the ground?
>>753287676
>>753287790
what fucking monsters
being charitable because their imaginary friend tells them too
don't they know that real imaginary friends tell people to kill everyone that doesn't have the same imaginary friend
>>753287303
>they stay poor because the rich people keep all the money
except that the facts don't support that
>>753274415
>Shitting up the quality
>Of /b/
There's literally a dog porn thread and a question of if you'd fuck a decapitated corpse. And your problem is with right wing posters? Why is your problem also not wth left wing posters? Both are as bad as eachother, don't be a hypocrite.
>>753288681
>a gender's degree
you're a retard
>>753288681
>maybe i shouldn't have said that a college degree is worthless
I know you shouldn't have
>they either fail
says who?
>or don't learn anything
says who?
>>753271889
Because there's nothing there. Kids go to school early and get out in the early spring because all they do is farm, and those whose family doesn't own a farm usually can't afford any college, so if they're not farming, they're either driving a truck or working at Walmart.
>>753288904
The facts are that all the money is going to the top 1% while there is still poor everywhere.
Sorry that doesn't jive with your imagined idea of what the US is.
>>753285273
>cities like Pittsburgh
This is proof that you have 0 fucking clue what you're talking about. Pittsburgh is consistently ranked one the top cities to live, and we have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the country.
>>753289148
anon got btfo by a bunch of posters here
hope he doesn't really believe that shit
>>753275385
>that’s like saying having less people in poor countries would solve a hunger crisis
That's literally the best solution, these countries are overpopulated.
urban areas typically vote democrat
>>753288841
I just pointed out that racism wasn't the only Alabama export I could think of. Yay!
It's one of the few states I haven't been to, so I have intentionally refrained from making judgement on quality of life there. I'm glad you have enlightened me about how horrible it is there. I'm sure you are speaking from direct experience.
>>753272487
Its the rich running a divide and conquer campaign on lower classes. The ruling class would not remain in power if the working class was united
>>753288984
if you have been to college, you should have noticed that half of your class quit after 3 years wasting a lot of cash and time in the process.
Not everyone can get a degree.
>or don't learn anything
I am sure you have encountered people that can study everything a small time window but forget all knowledge of a subject after the exam .
http://www.uky.edu/~kdbrad2/EPE773R/StudentPapers/ConsumerBehavior.pdf
The primary cause is motivation, do they really want to be good at it, or do they want that degree? IF they only want the degree, they are worthless. if they want to be good at it, they are worth a lot to an employer.
>>753288681
Trades are and can be just as useless. Plenty of people drop out before completing apprenticeships and the early pay of trades is awful, the work fucking sucks, and good luck doing half of the trades once you're over 40 because your body will literally be so fucked up it's insane.
Don't do trades without a backup plan fam, I promise you'll regret it.
>>753289091
And if you are honest about it, all those at the top are Jews
>>753289417
It does suck. I don't have to go there to know it.
Alabama is literally the biggest shithole in the US.
>>753288826
This, if you do a solid masters of PhD there's some interesting work out there in biology, pharmaceutics and genetics.
>>753289852
I'm sure they won't miss you.
>>753289656
I'm noticing you're talking a lot of shit and expecting me to take it as fact, actually.
>>753289823
>durr the joos control u
faggot
>>753289091
I don't think that's true of only red states, that pretty much applies to everywhere in America and the world. The rich are the ones in control and they stay rich because of it. Cuba was woke.
>>753289917
shut up
stop defending bigoted retards
>>753290046
It applies to red states where there is exceptional poverty, like AL. Utah shouldn't have any poverty either, since it's full of rich Mormons who are supposed to be doing God's work. And yet, they're all right-wing dipshits.
Stop trying to dodge the point.
>>753288841
Actually the poorest and least educated state is West Virginia
>>753290080
Initiate Navy Seal Copypasta...fresh from Coronado.
>>753271889
Detroit
>>753290171
you're splitting hairs
and WV has just as fucked up of a political/economic system.
>>753272504
way too much generalization. or maybe im just an oddball, but i think people like me are actually quite common. I am extremely liberal (social democrat, borderline democratic socialist); i am also a survivalist and believe in gun rights
just look at states like vermont, new hampshire, maine, oregon, washington, colorado, and minnesota. these are blue states, but also quite rural. many of them, such as vermont and new hampshire, are strongly pro-gun
basically, people should not just default to their political affiliation for all views. people should come up with their own ideas on their own. just because youre a liberal doesnt mean you have to be anti-gun. just because youre a conservative doesnt mean you have to be anti-universal-healthcare
>>753271889
They always have been? Literally those are the cities with the largest population since the United States become an industrialized country. Immigrants came from all over to these cities looking for jobs in which were there but for shit pay. Fuck off with your shill, and just look history dumbass
>>753290345
Automakers aren't liberals, anon.
Fuck living in the city
Excuse me sir, but i am from Oklahoma and have the same opportunities as someone in a blue state. I live in a college town with plenty of job opportunities. Also your point is fundamentally flawed because the major blue states are also states with a majority population. For example California has 39 million people as oppose to Oklahoma 2 million. Give me more statistics other than basic stereotypical shit n then talk about red state v blue state.
The red states live within their means. The blue states tax the fuck out of everyone for dem programs.
>>753289926
What? i linked a research paper of college students.
Do you want me to link a research paper of college dropouts? Here
http://www.air.org/sites/default/files/downloads/report/AIR-CALDER-Understanding-the-College-Dropout-Population-Jan14.pdf
That's the 2 things i talked about in the comment you linked
>>753274494
californias economy is the same size as great britain. great britain has a full fledged navy, army, and air-force. cali aint broke
>>753290497
Just fuck off. You're anti-education, and you'll cherrypick any "study" that backs up your backward fucked up mindset.
>>753273870
you forgot about how fiscally solvent detroit has become under liberal rule.
>>753290167
You're the one dodging, you won't apply your standards to blue states even though they are equally true there. You don't think there's a one percent in New York? Get the fuck over yourself you leftist shill, take off your hemp Mexican made belt and wrap it around your skinny, femme neck and hang yourself.
>>753275236
s-sure kid
>>753276471
this is a containment board
>>753284170
5 seconds in google
http://aboutpeanuts.com/peanut-facts/growing-peanuts/where-peanuts-grow/
Georgia (which grows about 42% of all U. S. peanuts), followed by Texas, Alabama, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Virginia, Oklahoma and New Mexico.
Alabama comes to about 13%
https://naldc.nal.usda.gov/download/CAT83783188/
>>753290844
>you leftist shill
butthurt faggot is triggered
>>753276393
85% majority
you're grossly overestimating the number of larping pussies in the us
>>753290857
no it isn't
/pol/ and /r9k/ are examples of containment boards
>>753290494
Dem programs work better in blue states due to their population
Sorry cuck
>>753290844
There are NO blue states that have the kinds of poverty rates you find in red states like AL or MS.
You need to let it go.
Conservative "values" suck.
>>753290844
The term 1% came from New York
How are you this mad
>>753271889
I wish everyone that is left leaning would suddenly die.
>>753271889
Well take West Virginia. That silly nigger did everything he could to kill coal. And he succeeded. No jobs left.
>>753271889
Because they've been abusing SALT to steal money from the federal government. Money generated by all those red states.
>>753272504
>liberals dont have what it takes
>redneck trailer trash living off of welfare cause they fuck their sister and smoke meth instead of work
>>753291196
Fat chance, fuckwad.
We're here to stay. For as long as you keep bitching about shit.
>>753284986
>Texans be like
>>753291247
Do you have any graphs that show where the greatest contributions come from?
