Alcohols: How do you know when to stop?
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Alcohols:
How do you know when to stop?
when you feel the need to come onto /b/ and ask questions
>>752812807
When I pass out
>>752812807
You don't stop.
>>752812807
When the bottle is empty
>>752812807
a good drunk can feel when it's time to stop for the day to avoid being unable to walk the next day if that's what you're asking. if you mean quitting well...that's hours of endless debate, do you believe in living a good life and alcohol ruining it for you being a reason to stop, or do you believe that life is just bags of meat walking around on a rock and fuck it lets get wasted. really tho at the end of the day the real question you should be asking is why does any of it matter? because it doesn't.
when you start drinking Canadian blended whisky
When you start drinking exclusively garbage, cheap alcohol to maximize how drunk you can get for your dollar.
OR when it starts to regularly interfere with your outside life.
When its too late
>>752813822
this, regular alkie here
>>752812999
Checked. This is the only answer
42yo anon checking in
Got 2 kids
€60kpa management
Postgrad Scientist
Secret fighting alcoholism.
A textbook functioning alcoholic. It just fucks up everythung in my life that is not absolutely essentially. Occasionally it creeps into those areas too.
You get to know the day after
How much do people here drink a day?
Me usually 10-15 uk units
Almost a year sober here. Strangely the only alcohol I crave anymore isnt the good stuff like single malt of seasonal beer, but ice cold malt liqour like i used to drink daily. Thats how I know its not a good idea yet.
>>752814238
Sounds about right.
More on special occasions - and the bar for "special" is fairly low
>>752814238
16 beers or most of a 26er + chasers.
>>752812807
I measure out a portion for the evening and lock the rest of the booze up in a timed safe. Or if I'm not drinking whisky, I'll only buy enough beer/wine for the evening. The key is knowing the sweet spot between getting a good buzz and not being too hung over for work.
>>752814238
750 ml of 40% alcohol or one bottle of wine and two 7% beers.
>>752814568
It's a major problem.
My whole career revolves around facilitating drinking. Having to go to work drunk is a constant risk
>>752814440
Fair play anon
I smoked for 20 years and have nothing but pity for smokers. I wonder if I will ever reach that point with booze
>>752814726
I only really got interested in moderation after my boss had a meeting with me and was like "LOL why aren't you fired yet?"
when you get sweaty and shaky, and axious when you go a few hours without it. trust me, worse withdrawals ever, heroin guys are pussies, ive been there too, 10 years ago. the booze thing is constant tho. if ypu cant make it past five without a panic attack you need to go to a hospital, or very carefully and consistently wean off by about a quarter of your intake a day.
>>752815175
I was a heavy Narco abuser and withdrawals from that was a breeze compared to Xanax. That shit nearly killed me.
>>752813637
this
>>752812807
I drank 1 bottle of whiskey and 4 beers last night.
I woke up at 4pm this afternoon in bed naked with a bucket of vomit next to my head... needless to say I added to that pile of vomit and then went to the shop and bought another bottle of whiskey.
I also got 5.5 grams of weed but from a dodgy cunt and not from the shop.
I have problems and I'm drinking and smoking them away even though the drinking and smoking IS the problem but it's fine because I've got booze and weed.
>>752815295
exactly, thats why in alc detox theu give you benzos loke atavan or valium, basically Xanax. it emulates the alcohol molecule, basically tje same thing
>>752812807
When there's more people scowling than there are laughing.
god speed anon. my live hurts
>>752812807
I've never get drunk (27 now). I drink a beer or two every time I go out with friends but that's all. It's all about preferences I guess.
>>752816125
mine, too, i think.
>>752813515
That's why you buy multiple bottles!
>>752812807
>>752812807
Well I only drink with friends and always have a plan where to sleep so I stop when I feel like it. ( always drink with a full stomach and drink water or other liquids) So far havent reached my limits. Most Ive drank so far was 10 shots of vodka and I stopped because was tired (lack of sleep for the prior two days).
OP here. I was more asking when do you stop drinking in your life, not in a night.
>>752816560
when it impacts other areas of your life.
>>752812807
when you don't feel bad anymore
>>752815444
Checked. Also do you drink and smoke alone? Or with friends?
>>752816560
If you're asking this question it probably means you should stop now
>>752816729
Used to drink and smoke with loads of mates.
Declining mental health and the fact I'm a bit of a dickhead means it's more often than not me getting fucked alone.
I've done so well recently but the past 3 days I've bought 2 bottles of whiskey (70cl, 28 units) and 24 beers.
>>752816825
But I've got a fifth of rye in my drawer
>>752812807
I start sweating.
>>752816898
Beautiful honesty Anon
The truth shall set you free
When i hate myself. Usually takes some.
>>752816898
Is it true that once an alcoholic always an alcoholic?
>>752813822
Right in the feels. Are you me?
>>752816914
And i've got a bottle of wine
I know i should quit, doesn't mean i will
But seriously consider it
Can we turn this into alcoholics of /b/ thread?
Post how old you are, how long you've been drinking and how much/often you drink?
Makes me feel less shit about myself
>>752818528
30, 2 years, 24 beers and a 26er a week. sometimes more
i keep meaning for it to be a once a week event but its escalating
>>752818528
>37m
>quit about a year ago after 15 years of very heavy beer consumption
There's life after alcoholism, man. It's a boring empty life, for me anyway, but you can get there. Keep your chin up.
>>752818528
28, drinking heavily since about 19, drinking nightly like 8-16 shots, sometimes I drink all day when I dont have shit to do.
if aged whiskey tastes better why don't they just age all the whiskey? i know the process would take awhile making more barrels and waiting a few years for the aging can't be that big a deal
>>752812807
When you start to feel dizzy, if you space it you will not
>>752818905
because then people cant put their nose up if their alcohol isn't 35 years old and made by an old man
>>752818865
This is pretty much the same as me, started at 16/17 and i'm 21 now
Im from the uk so drinking age is 18 but still
>>752817804
I don't see the fucking point in lying to myself or anons on /b/.
Might as well tell it as it is.
>>752817938
I'm gonna say kinda.
Depends on the self-control.
I have none, so I will probably always be a fiend for alcohol even if I hate the taste of pretty much all of it.
A person with a lot of self-control could probably love the taste of booze but quit it cold-turkey immediately.
>>752814238
I was on a bottle a wine and a few beers day.
now approx three day a week a little less
Alcohol is funny, from age 18 to 20 I was drinking frequently in parties, and when I say drink I mean getting absolutely shit faced and throwing up multiple times. I always lasted all night, throwing up every now and then and drinking more after. Only few times I passed out.
Now after 5 years of not drinking a pint I can't tolerate alcohol at all. Few months ago I was at funeral and had to take a shot - I can bet if I took 2 more I would be on the floor.
>>752819546
I'm getting like that with tobacco and caffeine. Maybe I'll luck out and the same will happen with booze.
>>752819546
2 more you'd be on the floor.
Everyone walk the dinosaur?
>>752812807
A friend of mine was basically a functional alcoholic because he hated his job. Went to law school and drank hard every night of the first year due to stress. Got diagnosed with the early stage of cirrhosis and can now never drink again unless he wants to die soon
>his symptoms including bloating and weight gain while at the same time rarely eating due to no appetite. He ignored those as typical hangover type shit after a long bender. When he started puking all the time he decided to go to the doctor and got diagnosed
Anybody feeling bad health effects from alcohol?
For a while now i've had mild pain under my right ribs a few times a day, worried it might be the start of liver failure
>>752812807
I used to drink Negronis a lot.
>2 parts Plymouth gin
>1 part Campari
>1 part red vermouth
>over rocks, slice of orange to garnish
I used to keep the bottles in a cabinet slightly above eye-level so that they had to be retrieved while standing. When I could no longer reach the bottles, it was time to stop drinking.
>>752812807
When it stops hurting....n it never does
>>752819922
Dr says I have a fatty liver. Not sure how bad (or what it is)
>>752818528
31m
Vodka is my weakness.
I try to stick to 8% shit beer for the most part. But there was an awesome sale on vodka. 750ml for 15 bucks. Like 2 or maybe 3 days that will last me.
Been drinking since teenage but as soon as I turned 21 it became heavy. Only like 1- 3 times a year do I call out of work, only ever from over consumption of alcohol.
Been doing heroin recently. Like last 2 yrs, and I can limit myself to like 100 dollars a month on that shit, and it helps me drink less, so that's cool for now.
>>752819758
I meant passed out, not going mental on dance floor.
I'll tell you exactly when you know. This happened to me and my liver was basically shutting down with a nasty infection. I quit drinking for 5 days after drinking a liter of vodka a day. I didn't get any withdrawals what so ever. I had no money but I got paid 5 days later and decided to drink again.
The next morning, I woke up and thought I was on the verge of death.
>Entire insides were burning up and felt like I was on fire
>Could barely get out of bed, my legs were so weak I could barely walk on my own
>If I tried to eat anything or drink water, I would throw up
>If I touched a liquor bottle to my mouth, I would throw up
>I had no desire to eat or drink anything
>My vision was blurry and fucked up
>Had extremely dark urine
>Inconsistent diarrhea that was dark and runny
>Anxiety is through the roof at hypochondria levels, if I even sat on the toilet my legs would start shaking
>Non-stop panic attacks all day
>Only slept for two hours at a time then would wake up, would drink for a couple hours and repeat
I had to drink to make it go away and every day was like that for three weeks before I weened myself off. I finally went to a doctor 3 weeks later of this shit every day. I was about to kill myself, I couldn't do this every day.
My blood levels were 10 times the normal amount what they should be (Your GGTP levels). Mine were over 1,000+.
>>752819922
>>752820136
Non-alcoholics can get fatty liver. That just means there's fat deposits on it and it could be inflamed. Mine is too. The pain under your rib is like because the liver is enlarged.
>>752820145
Just read my post. That's a 1.75 L bottle, aka a "handle" here in the U.S.
>>752820145
>and it helps me drink less, so that's cool for now.
ahaha
and its hard to laugh. i got smoking cigs to get over weed and now im trying to quit cigs with alcohol.
it seems to work but at what cost
>>752812807
I dont drink that often but when i do i tend to drink til im dying. Im into fitness so i cant do this often or i wont workout and alcohol has a lot of calories. I used to smoke weed/eat edibles almost daily and i think if youre an alcoholic you should try to make the switch to marijuana if you can.
>>752820145
>Been doing heroin recently. Like last 2 yrs, and I can limit myself to like 100 dollars a month
You sure you spend that little, bro?
>>752820244
I forgot to include in that three week period when I ran out of money for a couple of days. My body wouldn't fall asleep. My heart would go erratic when I laid down and when I closed my eyes, I saw fucked up hallucinations and heard people talking to me.
It wasn't fun. I don't recommend it. If you drink heavy, ween yourself off of it because that ever happened to me again, I would kill myself.
>>752820365
Get a 1,000 mg milk thistle supplement to drink with water after you drink like an asshole. It helps a lot.
>>752820244
>(Your GGTP levels). Mine were over 1,000+.
You should be dead
>>752812807
Here’s a question.
What do you do when you’re drunk and alone /b/?
>>752820554
Vidya or lurk this shithole.
>>752812807
When you cannot physically continue drinking.
>>752812807
I stopped because I got pancreatitis from alcoholism at 23. I was in the hospital over 15 times in less than a year. The worst pain I've ever felt. I've had back surgery, had teeth knocked out of my head, etc. The sad thing is I've been clean for nearly 3 years now and I still think about it every day.
>>752819922
I had a fatty liver from gorging on beer and garbage food after I got a sack of weed that gave me the munchies like never before. I didnt think anything of it until my shit started coming out beige/tan. You gotta google weird shit colors and my tan babadooks were a sign that my fatty liver was fucking up my ability to produce bile.
I’ve been sober since November 30 and it’s driving me crazy. I used to spend so much time and money drinking I don’t even know what to do with myself. The tremors are horrible
I quit drinking three months ago and I can't imagine going back. My poops are solid, I have energy and I actually feel like I want to live. I can enjoy things and I don't need to guzzle down 90 proof liquor just to feel okay.
Stop anon. My family is full of alcoholics and I've seen people die from it. Both acute and long term. It's not a short or pleasant death. It's incredibly painful and when I watched my grandpa die in the hospital, that was my final push to quit.
His lung, liver and heart started failing simultaneously. He said no to a feeding tube because he just wanted the pain to end.
>>752820586
youtube wormholes or lurk this wasteland. Sláinte, anon
I'm starting to get pains in my liver area. No idea why and too scared to go to a doctor. Its like a dull sometimes throbbing sometimes just dull ache. Been drinking consistently for about 8 years straight. Am I fucked?
>>752820554
Vidya, youtube, tv (intervention is a favourite, it makes me feel less shit, something i strive for), and then massive breakdowns and self harm on a bad day lol
>>752812807
When you wake up in the morning and your puss is completely clear, smells like vodka, and your fingertips and eyes are yellow. That's the start of a three day hangover and you can drink again when it's over, but you shouldn't.
>>752820692
Form one alchie to another. You need to smoke weed, but only until you get rid of the overpowering urges and physical withdrawals. After that YOU HAVE TO STAY BUSY. I got a 2nd job. It sucked at first, but now I love it, and i've been promoted at both jobs. You'll figure it out, man. Just deny your urge.
>>752820692
If you're getting tremors you need to drink. Next is seizures and hallucinations because your body's over-compensation for a lack of alcohol. You have to quit slowly.
>>752820145
>heavy drinking
>fifth lasts you 2-3 days.
>yeah okay.
>>752820945
I drink 600 ml of 90 proof vodka every day. Do I qualify?
>>752814238
Usually about 20 UK units.
In the past 3 days I've had 40+ and I'm still working my way through a bottle of Whyte And Mackay whiskey now.
>>752820871
This is what i have, i'm going to get a blood test soon and i'm absolutely shitting myself
Also, i have fairly regular runny shits. i thought this was due to unhygenic housemates but another anon said it might be a sign of liver failure...fuck
>>752820945
taft just got added to my reactions folder. thanks, anon. I needed that unexpected historical chuckle
>>752820972
That is professional drinking son.
We could hang.
I drinking traveller's club whiskey or Canadian hunter whiskey.
14 dollars for a half gallon, awwwyeah.
Anon again that's been clean for three months.
My early 20s, I lived in the bar. What did I get from it though? All those bar friends I made never talk to me, all those bartenders who were my "friend" don't talk to me or even acknowledge me since I quit going in. I was just a tip to them.
I was spending so much money and for what? I bought myself a new desk setup in the past month, I'm re-doing the office and got some new hardware on the way. My life used to be drastically searching for work so I could go out and drink. That was it.
The random fucks I met in bars went on to get knocked up by other people and now have kids they can't afford running around. Do I miss it? Absolutely. Being buzzed all day is the best feeling in the world but when it wears off or you run out of money, you're so fucking miserable.
I drink a lot but not enough to worry about killing myself or hiding alcohol around the house.
I'll have 1/2 pint of whiskey and a couple of beers most nights.
On special days I'll drink a bottle of wine or champagne.
I don't know when to stop I just get tired
>>752821172
Kamchatka here (if you're broke) is only $18 for a 1.7L bottle.
There's 100 proof vodka called Paramount for the same price but do not under any circumstances drink that fucking trash.
So I had been drinking about 1/2 of a bottle of bourbon or vodka a day since June I think. Near constantly wasted as a funational alcoholic when not at work gave me almost 100% diarrhea and an erratic heartbeat. I decided to stop earlier this month and went three weeks cold turkey until my mom (bless her heart didn't know I was a boozer) bought me some seasonal Christmas beer she kne I liked. I drank it all in one go. Now it's boring as fuck to he wasted. Thinking of joining a gym to get rid of all the drink weight I gained.
>>752812807
When you fuck your aunt and beat your grandma
>>752821241
Same here. If my anxiety gets bad, I'll have a couple beers during the day but I usually try to only drink at night. I don't drink myself to black outs and vomiting. I just get tired and go to bed when I start to get drunk.
>>752812807
I drink ~1-2 liters of whiskey a day.
For me, the trick is being honest with myself. I know how I feel, and I know when enough is enough. Usually because my body tells me I'm tired/ill/ready to go.
It varies on the daily, but it's trial and error and experience.
I never want to stop.
>>752821337
That's because you don't have any social peer pressure around you if you drink alone at home. You just get tired and go to bed. When you're out at the bar, no one wants to be the buzzkill, so you go until 6 in the morning getting hammered.
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Let's go!
>>752821355
>I never want to stop.
Until this happens to you
>>752820244
It came out of nowhere and there were no warning signs. I was the exact same way. I felt too good to stop. Trust me, there will come a day where you'll stat having regrets.
I'm only 29 and I have fibrosis. That's the stage right before cirrhosis which leads to liver failure.
>>752821278
get a brita water filter or something like it. then you can take the cheapest vodka in the store, run it through the filter 2 or 3 times, and turn that cheap swill into damn near top shelf vodka. i am not bullshitting. filtering is the main difference between the good shit and the cheap shit
>>752820945
>>752812807
When my asshole cant take it and a mix of shit booze squirts out..
>>752821337
I started drinking to numb my crazy thoughts and now when I don't drink my thoughts are crazier...or maybe that's just what I think
>>752821149
Glad to assist. I currently have the flu and am getting screamed at by a toddler.
It's irrelevant but I wanted someone to know
>>752821726
That's because the alcohol is causing your anxiety/paranoia/delusions. I was using alcohol to get rid of my anxiety but alcohol was the cause of it.
>>752821482
Well, as an addendum to my last reply, I do get bloody noses more frequently now, and my dick doesn't get AS hard. It still gets decently hard, but before I drank heavily I've had women tell me I was the best sex they ever had and I've never gotten a compliment like that since.
The point is I'm noticing small changes but the cons don't outweigh the pros as of yet. It helps me not think.
>>752821278
I drink travelers club dude.
It tastes like literal gasoline.
>>752821805
>I was using alcohol to get rid of my anxiety but alcohol was the cause of it.
then why drink if you didn't have anxiety?
>>752821880
because of the anxiety. Duh.
>>752821482
So what i dont even got a fatty liver. Have fun dying fgt by the way is your mind already weird and milky because your liver cant process the toxins in your blood? Enjoy anyway
>>752821880
I started in 2011 because I had a heart palpitation and I had no clue what it was. I developed severe hypochondria and couldn't even function. I didn't have insurance back then and benzos do dick for me.
That's why I started drinking in the first place.
>>752820516
Im assuming that is the same as your GGT level, but it is pretty much how court orders work when they decide to make sure you havnt been drinking. Itd only be elevated if youve been drinking or have a billiary tract obstruction or maybe a few other things. Interestingly enough, i read in a reference lab manual that the normal lethal dose for blood alcohol content is about 0.40.
>>752821784
sorry about the flu. tell that asshole kid to give you a break today
>>752821482
Just FYI
>>752821954
^ was not the anon who talked about not wanting to stop.
>>752821827
^ was.
who here is fucked right now?
I'm about 1.5 bottle of wine down
>>752822019
It is. AST/ALT levels also were 10 times the normal amount. I drank about 100-150ml of vodka before going to the test. I tried to go 12 hours without drinking anything like they said but I caved in.
>>752822082
Plot twist, HE GAVE ME THE FLU.
Kids are jerks.
Yeah, I'm hammered and I never want to stop.
I used to have constant, manic thoughts going through my head whenever I tried to go to sleep. Sleeping pills, weed, none chamomile tea, none of that helped. So I developed a drinking habit and now I just drink to calm my thoughts and help me sleep.
Lately though my tolerance has been going up. I used to smoke a couple bowls and drink 2-4 beers and pass out, now I can kill a 6 pack of 8% ABV beers and only be buzzed. I need to drink 10 beers or so to pass out.
Now I regret getting into alcoholism. Been 3 years since I started and I get anxiety and the shakes toward the evening. I only drink at night though, only during the day on special occasions.
Been drinking a lot the last few months, but my wife and best friend both drink with me. It's scary, but I prefer drinking alone. Wife gets off work about 3 hours after I do, and I can easily put down 15 shots of whiskey in that timeframe.Ive been smoking weed heavily since I was 14, it became an everyday habit at 17, became an all day habit at 20. Im 22 now, have a decent paying job, but I cant get through a day sober. My wife is in the same boat. She seems to think we could just quit smoking when the time comes, don't have the balls to tell her I don't ever want to stop. Im pretty self aware of my drinking though, my father was an alcoholic, so I know the warning signs. Im on my 4th straight night of drinking, gonna take a few weeks off after this. I still have the willpower not to drink, but I have lost the fight to getting high. Smoking weed is just something I feel like I will always have to do, because it calms my anxiety, and I can't take SSRIs or Barbituates.
>>752822123
Damn sister
>>752820903
>your puss is completely clear
>>752822141
its ALWAYS the kid thats guilty. even the cleanest of daycares are a sickness warehouse
>>752813532
Get over your nihilism and bow down to god as you understand it anon. There are others that made it too
>>752822123
Well no shit you had really high blood alcohol levels if you drank a shit load of vodka right before the test.
When i get dubs obviously
>>752822363
I think he also meant his liver enzymes were fucked up meaning anon is probably kill regardless of what he does depending on how bad it was..
this is a good thread, i thought the liver pain was just me. havnt had anything so far today, trying to save untill before bed. anyone else deliberately buy pint bottles so no matter what you cant keep going?
>>752819826
>>his symptoms including bloating and weight gain while at the same time rarely eating due to no appetite
Fuck. I might be in trouble
Drank 2 bottles of gin, 3 bottles of champagne, one bottle of wine, several strong beers and a large bottle of strong beer over the past 2 days.. I hate myself
>>752822309
Kek
>>752822473
It was my liver enzymes. I dropped them in half in a month's time.
>>752822489
I normally can regulate myself to stay at the same drunk-level for a while, I really don't like getting so sloppy that I forget where I am. I tell myself that will help my liver in the long run.
>>752813637
I was drinking about a liter and a half a week at my worst
>>752812807
Well, I don't handle it too well, I was hungover this morning from 2 litres of cider that I chugged on an empty stomach.
So no, I don't know when to stop.
Also pretty sure I might have ruined a friendship when I got a bit "weird" and made my mate feel "uncomfortable"
Not that I'm good at friendships. I ruin em all and everyone hates me.
Tbh I feel like shit rn and I feel like an ugly loser that nobody could ever be attracted to.
>>752822565
Ah that's good man, they back normal?
>>752822489
Yeah, but i have three corner shops within a 5 minute walk, and they're all open until late, so sometimes that doesn't work
>>752822679
Got another test in 2 days but I doubt it. I fell off a little bit during Thanksgiving. We'll see.
>>752818528
36. Haven’t drank in three years. It was starting to become a problem.
>>752822001
>heart palpitation
i fucking hate those
>>752822732
i always have that problem, its embarrasing when all the packies in the county know your face.
>>752822893
spotted the bostonfag
>>752822489
i will often buy a 12 pack instead of a 24 or 30 pack of beer just to keep shit in check. but if i finish that 12 before the convenience store closes then all i did was make a bad financial decision
When I drank, I had to get drunk or I felt like something had failed.
>>752823053
I'm the same way. I can't just go for a buzz or else I just crave more alcohol until I'm drunk
>>752822893
kek. same. they see me so often that they comment any time i buy something that i normally dont buy. one even congratulates me whenever i buy condoms
>>752823114
Once I got a buzz, something would just click in my head so I had to have more.
>>752812807
Do you mean when to stop drinking or when to quit drinking?
If it's the latter, if you have to ask or if you have to think about it, then you need to quit
>>752823114
If I have an objective while drinking then Ill keep a buzz but once that objective is finished I reward myself by getting completely and totally smashed. Not a great reward system because its usually somewhere where getting smashed isnt too acceptable.
>>752820857
>feeling like you want to actually be alive
This sounds worth all the pain of withdrawal. If it takes becoming addicted to a substance and suffering through withdrawls to feel that it may be worth it. Unless, of course, you actually wanted to live BEFORE you began drinking, then it won't help me at all. Can't wait to turn 21 to buy my own alcohol and dim this existential suffering.
I'm literally drinking myself to death. How bizarre, to be slowly dying.
>>752812807
When I'm passed out. When I throw up blood. When I poop blood. I usually take a day or 2 off when there's blood involved
I'm going to help you all out. I was a brokefag when I did this but I wanted to cleanse my liver and get it back to healthy (of course doctors say you can't because there's no pills to push on you for it).
I did this with ramens because broke but you can do it with a lot of things
>Chopped spinach
>Ginger root
>Milk thistle capsules (the higher the mg the better)
>Garlic (get chopped garlic if you're lazy)
>Turmeric
>Crushed red pepper
>Sweet potatoes
>Corn and green beans
>Lemons
I would mix all of those spices and spinach in ramens once a day. I had one cup of water with cut up lemons in it once a day too. All of those foods are good for your liver and helped me get back to normal when my doctor said I was going to die soon and there's nothing they could do. I asked about a transplant and they said I'd be at the bottom of the list since I'm an alcoholic and it's not enough time.
My opinion on our bullshit health care system here in the U.S. has changed drastically. I saw so many old and sick people in the office dependent on prescription pills and pain killers. Pharma companies and insurance companies basically run this shit show and doctors laugh at you if you try any kind of home remedies or do your own research.
Why? Because they don't profit. They're in it for the money just like everyone else.
>>752820244
Can relate dude. Those hangovers get so bad, and alcohol the only cure! Imagine if there were more legal drugs to deal with hangovers etc. I bet society would be better off for it, both socially and economically.
>>752823587
Most doctors would rather die than admit there are some homeopathic treatments. Also id say that was a long shot it taking you off the transplant list, but a good diet can fix the majority of illnesses to be honest.
>>752823587
Oh and Dandelion Root if you can find it. I was too broke to order it online and no one around here had it.
>>752823730
Pretty much. They're old fashioned and if it doesn't make them money, they won't recommend it. Milk thistle is universally praised as a diseased liver combatant but when I brought it up, my doctor just scoffed at it and said it was a myth.
Why is it that i get extremely aggro when drunk? Really as i filling me up with booze i increasingly wanna fuck someone up. Preferably a /b/ pussy like you are. Wanna do a blow to the head from behind and head stomp the motherfucker for the lulz only. So i try to stare losers down when drunk and if someone looks back at me more than 2 times thats it i fucking beat him to mash. Anyone feel same?
>>752823587
Yeah man! Garlic and those other superfoods, well said.
>>752823834
There's two outcomes
1) You're psychotic and your brain wiring is fucked up (unlikely)
2) You have repressed anger and negative emotions that you hide, which comes out as anger towards anyone you see fit when you drink.
>>752823460
My bro here drinks moonshine.
>>752823187
I always had to prepare in my mind a night out that i was "going to"
The cashier guy would be like "wow the party never stops for you does it, where you going tonight?"
and depending on what day of the week it was i'd make up somewhere that i was going
>>752823822
Most just don't know and are too full of pride to admit that. Medical schools usually won't focus too much on home remedies and most Docs wont give a damn about researching it. Ive met some really good Philippino doctors that knew some really good homeopathic shit. Some of it sounded extremely crazy but it usually worked.
>>752823930
Do me next, doctor! Why do I keep shoplifting and committing crimes when drunk?
alcohol makes me feel nervous and gives me a bad headache
>>752824026
Because it's fun as shit.
>>752824105
Lol true.
>>752824101
Consider yourself lucky
>>752824026
cus youre a pussy that cant do crimes sober
>>752812807
when i start getting fat
>>752823587
There's a guy who comes to the bar every day here from open to close. He has a huge purple nose, he's really skinny and can't even hold his head up. He was given one year to live by multiple doctors.
... Nearly 10 years ago.
Some people can do it, some can't.
>>752824017
same. anytime i buy a case or more of beer they always think that i am going to share it because they know they will see me the next day. i let them think that. unless ive had a shit day then i will let them know that all that shits for me.
>>752824245
Actually I can, and I have done. But when sober I rationalise myself out of the decision to go steal. Drunk me seems to 'end up' with new stuff and a torn pair of trousers..
You're all a bunch of naughty lads.
>>752818528
wouldn't rly classify myself as an alcoholic, but i drink till i sleep (not pass out) one day every weekend. idk units of measure (cuz i don't measure how much juice or other that i mix anything with) but usually about 8 shots of 100pf collectively on that one day put aside for being a general idiot.
-(i'm 37 now, drinking since 19, in US. the prob i think was my dad, as he had 12 beers a night because my mom was and is such a fat cunt. now she drinks since i moved out, but didn't find out about her habit till only a couple yrs ago. dad's whole family side was full of alkies and smokers who never quit afaik.)
-i drink when i do things that should be and once were fun for me, like hanging out with anyone, vidya, going to dinners, visiting relatives, etc. these *should* be fun, but that's a sign of not having fun if i have to drink to have fun.
>>752824375
Those feels. When you buy multiple bottles of 190 proof.
>You and your girlfriend having a party?
>Yeah......... Sure.
Whatever you do.. DO NOT DO NOT go to a free or state paid rehab clinic. Holy fuck, I may as well been better off dead. They treat you like utter shit and all the workers are severely underpaid. You eat slop, they tell you what a piece of shit you are, tell you you're going to die and your family hates you and they don't follow state guidelines on giving you vitamins and the right tools to help fight withdrawals.
Remember the video of the 80 year old man crying out for help because he couldn't breathe and the she-boon waddling her fat ass over there 40 minutes later laughing at him? That's the treatment you get. I was terrified every night I'd have some kind of medical emergency and they wouldn't call anyone or care.
Then again, maybe never going back there is motivation not to drink.
>>752815175
This guy is talking sense. I'd go slower though. More like 10% a day
>>752824634
190 proof?!?!?!?
surely that isn't legal????
That's 95% for UK fags
>>752824634
https://youtu.be/9TGBcf9zr2I
>>752824917
It says on the label don't drink it straight. I was camping one night and we used it as a fire starter. The bottle actually caught on fire so we probably almost died that night.
>>752824634
190 proof
What the fuck?
>>752825051
Holy shit, R.I.P your entire body
>>752816560
I've just got clean through a slow-ween detox. 5 days without booze. Was up to 40 units a day after many years of chaos.
What I'd say is, depends how far along you are. If you're drinking heavy amounts daily then make a plan to stop. If it's starting to make you anxious about intake/causing problems, but you're not drinking that much, then now would be a good time to take contrl of it before it gets worse.
How much you drinking anon?
>>752817938
I'd say it is
>>752825160
>>752825168
It's basically an instant drunk on the first shot. It's pretty nice besides the burning. my Immunology teacher said it is basically fixating the cells inside of your throat.
>>752825160
At an after party, I met a girl who could chug 100% pure grain Everclear. No chaser, just lips to the bottle and chug. She started convulsing and spitting up blood hours later after she chugged nearly two bottles of the shit.
I don't know how you get to that point. If I take a tiny sip of Everclear, I cough and my throat burns to shit.
>>752825400
It is horrible to drink straight. I do it every now and then but it is definitely not something you should do often. It feels like you have pharyngitis for a week afterwards and I guess you technically probably do.
>>752820136
That can b reversed with diet and abstinace anon
>>752825265
I'm very hesitant to say yes because that can make people feel that quitting is pointless, but it does seem to be the case for ~75% of people (but that's just my completely non-scientific estimate)
But if you can try to quit for good, then try, it may work for you
I drink everyday half a bottle of hand sanitizer. How fucked is my liver? Will i die one day?
>>752820410
Yes. Weening is better and less dangerous than a rattle. I've done both and would recommend weening down to about 10 units before stopping - dependant on your levels
>>752825623
I would say it is half how often youre used to drinking and half if you have a reason to stop. I know people that just can't stop and others than made one stupid mistake after years of drinking and just quit cold turkey.
You only know when to stop after you've had several years and episodes when you've not known. You get to find a good amount that is easy to buy/conceal/consume, effective at getting you to a level, and not leaving you feeing like shit the next day + easy to dispose of evidence (public bins/petrol station bins/the hedgerows as you drive to work).
I guage it on a UK units rate if my standard 350ml of 37.5% vodka isn't enough. That's about 13 UK unit. I seem to be able to clear 1 unit of alcohol per hour so provided I start drinking at 6pm and finish it before midnight then I should be safe to drive by 8am. I have been subjected to random drug/alcohol tests at work at 9am and been 0% breath alcohol, so I know this works, or at least my liver does.
I push my luck sometimes and find that if the room is spinning at 7am the I've had too much. That's why I only buy small bottles of spirits. Im living on the edge but have it under control. It's either that or denial. But it's definitely not the latter.
>>752825788
If youre serious, don't do that. Thats not the drinking kind of alcohol, thats the killin kind of alcohol. There are plenty of better tasting and probably cheaper alternatives.
Yesterday
>>752820692
Dude. That's not the way to do it. If you're having shakes, palpatations, sweats, you've coe down too quick
>>752825788
Depends on how big the bottle is and how long you've been doing it
But hand sanitiser is worse for the body than alcohol that is meant for drinking
I know it doesn't sound like a great suggestion, but if you could switch to normal alcohol that would probably be a good start
>>752825788
why not drink regular alcohol?
>>752820871
No. I had that for a while because of heavy drinking and just got clean tests back for it. It will be though if you carry on
>>752825788
protip:
>Pour hand sanitizer in a puddle and put salt into it. Salt binds to the glycerine in the gel, forming a viscous goo and leaving the alcohol behind as a clear liquid.
>>752821112
Don't worry. Same. Clean tests back recently. Doesn't mean you're fucked just means you're putting the organ under unnecessary distress. Carry on and you'll hurt it permenant
Just something else interesting I read in a lab manual. The older antifreeze (ethelyne glycol) will get you drunk. Antifreeze itself isn't toxic to you but its metabolites are. The way to keep it from metabolizing into all its bad components and killing you is to get wasted to occupy all the enzymes performing the reaction so it doesn't build up and kill you. Could be a cool party trick if someone wants to try it for science.
yea ive taken an alcohol, me and the boys did some alcohols back in the day, its good stuff, i was fucked man, and the boys were too, fucking lethal stuff mate, there was like 5 of us in the woods taking alcohols and sucking each other off and licking asses (no homo)
>>752812807
you will say "I can't take this shit anymore."
26 years sober
Who here is under 25 and alcoholic?
I want to start going to AA or something like that, but i dont want to be surrounded by 45 year old divorced mum's of 2 talk about how much they love pinot grigio
>>752827002
Id say there are plenty, but I doubt many under 25 are sick of it enough to go to AA. Still go if you need help, /b/ro.
>>752827002
I'm 22, anon. Thought about AA again since relapsing after a month of sobriety, but I'm still not sure.
>>752826297
is why i drink alone lol jk m8.
>>752823587
These are all good foods for liver. This anon is correct. Also, olive oil - spread that shit on bread instead of butter - and green tea
>>752827356
Seems like green tea is just good for everything. But I guess the liver does near everything in your body.
>>752827002
22 yo here. Been drinking since I was about 16, but mostly beer and only at parties. Parents started buying me a 12 pack of beer a week to drink during weekends while watching football. Eventually upgraded to sneaking their liquor on the weekends as well. Since I turned 21 and can buy my own, I drink a handle every 4-5 days. I wake up every day telling myself today's the day I quit, but then night time rolls around... I've tried quitting but after a few days I just relapse again.
>>752827515
Also went to a psychiatrist to talk about it and got prescribed Xanax to try and quit. I didn't help. It helps with anxiety and sleeping, but it doesn't give the same effect as alcohol.
i went cold turkey the first time, started seeing fireflies and mist in the room, mo sleep, 48 hrs later i was on my was to the VA emergency room and we stopped at a diner. all of a sudden i see this glowing colorfuk orb om the corner of my eye, ots called an aura (emt class im dead serious) then i had a full blown tonic clonic seizure in public. lasted long enough for the ambulance to be there whem i woke up. funny part is i waved them off because vets dont get insuramce, just care. so we drove to the va and i was there for 5 days. at first they did a cardiogram and the doc looked at and said oh my god give him IV atavan now.
>>752827795
sorry for typos, fat thumbs small phone.
>>752827704
Yeah i don't think that would help for me either, alcohol helps me to fall asleep, but the main reason i drink is to feel drunk
>>752827294
Go AA if you want. Tends to be 40-plusers but it hels to hear the stories man. Completely non-comital. If you don't like it don't go again
>>752827515
wouldn't say you're an alcoholic, but you're well on your way kid. Best strap that shit down
>>752828052
just don't get sucked into Jesus
>>752827795
Cold turkey is never the way anon. Withdrawals are a bitch. And hallucinations, yeah, been there
>>752828237
Yeah. I never did. I went a few meetings a while ago and it helped but never chimed with that "accept powerlessness and give up to your god" lark. UK fag here and found out we have a substance abuse programe for free in ou town which is a bit more scientificl CBT based etc.
Weened for a month from 40 units a day and 6 days clean now. Feel okay. Just sleep pattern is fucked at the mo
>>752828237
AA is a non-religious program
What's the worst thing you've ever done while drunk, or what's the worst thing you've ever lost because of alcohol?
Mine would probably be getting kicked out of school or having to drop out of university
>>752828692
what year and month anon?
>>752828692
Dropped out of uni, committed two burglaries, got into heavy debt.
>>752828692
Apart from silly party stuff like skinny dipping in snow, drunk texting people, trying to twerk on walls and puking all of my body liquids, not much.
>>752812807
After a certain point I can't. I limit myself to 2 or 3 drinks to make sure I don't get there.
>>752827002
I'm 22, I'd say AA is a good last option. I was able to kick it about a year ago after finding out i just have an addictive personality and simply had to replace alcohol with something else. I smoke pot now as my crutch and i can control it way easier than drinking. No shitty hangovers or messy poops. And quitting weed to go sober for a little bit is way easier IMO.
>>752828871
Kicked out of school in late 2015 (after already having had to take a year out, so i was 18 at the time)
Dropped out of uni about a month ago, feels fucking awful man
>>752812807
when you puke or pass out
>>752829211
I wish i could switch to weed, but for some reason weed messes me up extremely bad, even at small doses
I've tried ketamine, which stopped me drinking when i was on it for a few days but then started drinking and doing ket lol
>>752829212
Too many to mention Anon. Whores, fights, police cells multiplied by cant't remember
>>752828595
12 steps? one of them is Jesus connected.
>>752812807
I had the realisation that when I'm on a night out, I stop drinking because the nightclub ends and then I go home and everything's cool. But if the nightclub didn't close at 3am, and stayed open til 8am and my friends were there, when would I stop?
>>752829610
It's a bit messy. It SAYS it's non-religious but says you should gve yourself up to a HIGHER POWER of your choosing.
Now, that can be Zog, God, The Flying SPaghetti Monster or your own chaos magik diety called Clive the Pirate who you Sigil to.
Either way, it's a bit religiousy
>>752829489
Thankfully the worst i've had is a few disturbing moments for my parents and a few embarrasing drunk moments
The weirdest thing for me is that when i go out with my friends, i'm always the sensible one who looks after the others who are too drunk
None of them are alcoholics, they're just regular students
51 days sober today lads
>>752830000
well done anon. Only 6 myself.
>>752830000
Nice Quads! How about a drink to celebrate?
>>752830000
Good job man, keep it up!
>>752820945
Did you not see the 1.75 L correction?
I can drink a 5th in a day.
>>752830734
Use metric
>>752828595
AA is absolutely a religious program.
19 days sober. I've never been so fucking bored in my life.
>>752831010
Um, aren't liters metric? I didn't say pints or gallons or anything.
>>752830734
jesus christ anon. 1.75 lasts me about a week. you might be alcohol.
Fuck I'd love a drink.
>>752820384
I was at like 400 a month or more, but all the throwing up made me slow down. That and rent, bills, etc.
>>752812807
when you put on like 100 pounds
>>752828197
Probably not but yeah I'm on my way. Addiction/alcoholism runs in my mom's. Her dad died in his 50s from liver failure and my mom has been drinking heavily for about 6 years now. Wish I could switch to weed but I live in GA so that's not really an option since every employer drug tests.
>>752831671
Yeah. That's why I try to stick to strong beer, even if it gives me the shits.
I drink like once or twice a week and that's like 2 Tall Boys of 5% alcohol when I do.
>>752812807
Use to drink a bottle of rum at least a week between the ages of 16 and 22 then quit and smoked weed instead. Body mind and soul recovered. Still drink and smoke occasionally but damn I regret the waste of time money and health from my earlier life. Alchohols a pleb tier drug anons. Do soft drugs instead.
>>752812807
When you get the feeling that resembles spinning in a circle for two minutes and tilting your head sideways. That special fun dizzy that signifies vomit incoming.
>>752833150
Employers piss-test over there? Madness.
Just stamp it out man if it's in the family. I would. In my genes too. 32 now. Don't waste a decade working it out
>>752812807
i have no clue. been drinking about 1L a night for the past 3 years. doesnt affect my work and i'm doing fine with the fam.
>>752812807
When I don't feel anymore.
>>752835544
too much that lad. It'll develop into problems
>>752836315
lol he didn't say what he drank 1l of...could be water.
>>752836315
yeah i know. honestly the amount i said was an overstatement. its prolly a round somwhere of 200ml-300ml depending if i have the day off the next day. btw its 40% abv vodka, i just noticed i didnt share.
>>752836584
im drunk af rn so yea m8
>>752836584
Fuck it then. You're right for a time
>>752812807
When you run out. I've put a limit of 6 tallboys in an evening will get me sufficiently drunk.
>>752836315
This. Been at a fifth a night for three years myself, no issues at first except for the lost time. I can feel my body starting to weaken though, and I'm forgetting things that I shouldn't be forgetting. Trying to slow down myself, only just turned 21
>>752836736
fight me
>>752836842
Why?
>>752836874
cos you're nougat
>>752836736
Come down about 10% a day until you get to about 8 units a night. Then try and stabalise it until you're ready to drop it. Safest way man. Gotta fill that time with something else though. Boredom is the thing
When your big toe gets stuck in your ear!
>>752837591
haha
>>752813176
This
>>752812807
I'm 28.
I drink like 4-8 beers every night.
I avoid anything stronger than beer (and sometimes some wine)
because I know this shit will kill me one day.
when I start to drink whiskey or vodka and stuff, I like it,
and when I'm shit faced drunk accidents tend to happen...
I'm kinda depressed, I don't actively try to kill myself, but stuff just happens...
I barely survived 2 times, and had a bunch of other accidents too, so I just stick to beer...
bump
>>752838719
This.
I gave up hard liquor when I woke up after blackouts and friends were reporting shit like starting fights, drinking out of mud puddles, mooning cops, slobbering on fat girls, etc.
I get too full on beer to go blind and wacky. AlAnon calls me a "maintenance drinker." I drink just enough beer (4 to 10 beers a night) to get a buzz and to get to sleep.
I suffer from mild depression (compared to other alks I've met) and chronic back pain that doesn't seem too bad after a six pack.
Whats everyone doin rn
>>752838719
did you ever try a different drug? weed or xtc?
weed can make you "fucked up" with less side effects and xtc / mdma is known to help to some degree for depressed people, assumed you don't overdo it
>>752812807
When u have to blow into a breathalyzer to start ur car.
When ur spending time in jail.
When ur giving a lawyer $2500
When ur spending 300 bux getting ur vehicle out of impound.
Depressed ppl putting a depressant in their body....
>>752839646
no.
well I smoked weed a few times with some friends, but I don't want to do this regulary.
>>752840071
>Depressed ppl putting a depressant in their body...
Two different concepts, junior
>>752840295
Ya cuz everything i learned in treatment is bullshit. Faggit
>>752840295
Cuz everything i learned thru being the observer of my thoughts is bullshit. Faggit
>>752840460
>Ya cuz everything i learned in treatment is bullshit. Faggit
Kek, yes, everything you learned in treatment is bullshit. You know it, so did the niggers "treating" you. Being depressed is human emotion, alcohol depresses the central nervous system. Two separate concepts you fucking ignorant moronic fool.
>>752840798
Kek
>>752840660
>Cuz everything i learned thru being the observer of my thoughts is bullshit.
If you think anything like you write, Yeah, I'd call that total bullshit. Fucking retard. Kek.
last bump
>>752818528
27
6 years
I usually drink a fifth, but sometimes more in a day for 3-4 days in the week.
I'd make mixed drinks and drink through the bottle all day long. I prefer to start as early as I can and just maintain a buzz all day., but usually drink through it faster if I start later in the day.
I'm an alcohol, and I'm destroying my family.
I don't give a fuck. Let's drink!
>>752842043
If you can drink all day and still keep a roof over your head, good for you.
>>752842956
kek
>>752842956
I work at home so its a bit easier to schedule my time. Plus my wife has a decent job so we can afford it. She's pretty much an alcoholic too.
>>752843270
If it all works, power to you, Bro.
I read an article years ago that stated that one out of every 3 people had script for some sort of psychotropic drug, like Valium. Meh, if a few drinks do the same thing, why not?
As long as you're not a waster and can live a comfortable life, go for it.
Pro tip: The American definition of "alcoholism" is pretty much laughed at by Europeans.
hey guys, how much is a sixpack beer in your country?
>>752845424
UK. About £5/6
I start my day with 2 shower beers, go to work, and drink a silo on my break. Then ill usually go to the bar for a couple long islands and finish off with a 6pack at home. I wouldnt be worried about it if it wasnt for the financial drain. Especially when you add cigs and pot with it. Just got done with my break silo, so its time to put on a friendly server smile at your local breakfast diner.
>>752845424
germany
a cheap one like 1,69€ (pic related)
what is better: quantity or quality?
I find this website to be a good indicator
https://www.shouldidrinktonight.info
>>752845424
>hey guys, how much is a sixpack beer in your country?
I usually buy a 12 pack of Pabst or Rolling Rock for $8-9 bucks, good beer runs about that for a sixer.
