Yes, she's right! I'm a bartender and I personally spit in your drink if you don't tip and you come back for another drink.
Tip or stay the fuck home.
>>752689606
>>752689606
i'll tip her a 20 if she's sucks in dick in the parking lot
fpbp
I think the whole concept of tipping is a scam. Just an excuse for companies not to pay their employees.
It's a terrible system.
That being said, it's the system we have. If you don't tip you're an asshole.
wouldn't even get out of bed for $2.13/h
>>752689789
This. Why the fuck do they even work there?
>>752689850
Maybe it is a lack of options
>>752689850
>>752689866
Because with tips you can go home with like $200 dollars a night.
>>752689606
This thread always comes up, and the issue is simple. Tipping *should* be optional - to pay for exceptional (and I mean exceptional) service. This is how it works everywhere else in the world except America. But here, there is the cultural assumption that tips are mandatory, so you *should* tip. But if you have something that is culturally mandatory, but not legally mandatory, what are you going to do if people don't tip? Nothing. It's a fucking stupid system, but if you're not an asshole, then you should tip.
>>752689886
after her post she'll be making 17 bucks a night minus tax
>>752689606
Here's a thought. Get a job where you're gainfully employed so I don't have to support you. Also you hand me a beer that's your job.
>>752689606
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
“Federal law - The American federal government requires a wage of at least $2.13 per hour be paid to employees that receive at least $30 per month in tips. If wages and tips do not equal the federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour during any week, the employer is required to increase cash wages to compensate.“
https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/hrg.htm
By law, they get paid minimum wage regardless of tips, so fuck off.
>>752689606
wouldn't it be cool if the cost of your meal reflected how much you had to pay, and instead of being expected to tip, you would only tip if someone performed admirably as wait staff?
then you wouldn't even have to have the debate about not tipping because everyone knows exactly how much everyone is spending and earning, and there's no longer an element of obligation beyond the cost of the meal.
>>752689606
Here's my strategy in greentext form
>Order
>Tip
>Order again
>Tip
>Order another drink
>Bartender is now giving me doubles on single orders
>Tip
The trick is to not be a broke nigger tagging along with other people trying to make a night out of $40
>>752690380
>buying drinks at a bar in current year
pro tip dude just bring ur drug of choice with u and slam it in the bathroom
The service industry is complete Shit. They complain about making 2 dollars an hour but walk home with over a hundred dollars a night and spend half of it on liquor, weed, and blow with their coworkers then just get up to do it again and again and again wondering 'hmm, why am I not making as much as everybody else?'. Working in the service industry is a very, very drug fueled party lifestyle. I haven't met a waitress, bartender, valet, or housekeeper that isn't addicted to something or doesn't know where I can find almost any drug I'm looking for or where its going down that night.
I understand the wait staff tipping debate, I never understood the argument to automatically tip a bartender. At least around here bartenders make over the minimum wage. Most are at least $12/hr. I'll tip if they give really good service, but if they start demanding tips like servers I'll stop ordering drinks at the bar and just get a table.
>>752689606
I never tip. But I don't drink. I just mean when I go to restaurants or order a pizza, I never tip. If they don't like their job, they can quit.
Is there really countries shit enough to expect tipping?
Or people willing to work for less than minimum wage?
>>752690738
'Merica
Maybe get a better job
>>752690738
America
>>752690569
When I worked in the service industry (for around 10 years, starting as a waiter, ending as a head chef) I never took any drugs, maybe some weed after my shift or on a free day. Working was my drug. I did 14 hour shifts and I loved it. Then again, I never worked in the states and the salary was not to bad for a job you could do without getting proper training. I quit because I wanted to go to university (which didn't work out, but that's another story).
tl;dr: Not every one is taking drugs.
>>752689606
No you don't.
>>752690709
That means starving for a few weeks for some people. They should at least get minimum wage, then we wouldn't be expected to tip them.
>>752690569
I've worked in the industry. There are some very good people I'm it that are responsible and don't live for the party scene. When I worked with them they actually did very well and made a ton in tips. The ones that were in it to make parting money usually did a half assed job and were of course the vocal group that bitched about horrible tips. I think the problem with the service industry is it attracts a very young work force. The same group of people that don't take most jobs serious. I only met 1 person when I was working that was under 25 and any good. Most of the best servers were all 30 or older.
>>752690738
Even tipped employees must get federal or state minimum wage by law - you can be a shitty server screeching “REEEEEEE” and letting your autistic monster flag fly, and STILL make minimum wage because by law your employer has to ensure it.
Doesn’t stop you from getting fired though by being an absolute social fuckup who no one likes and drove business away.
>>752690816
>did weed after work
>not everyone is taking drug
>>752689886
Look at me! I deserve $200 for pouring alcohol in a glass!
>>752689606
Here's a tip:
If your livelihood depends on tips, get a better job.
>>752690738
They will complain about the low hourly rate, but they take the job because they can make a ton in tips. And if the tips are cash and not left on a card they don't have to report them all for taxes. I knew servers that regularly took hundreds of dollars in tips a shift.
>>752689606
how much to spit on my face, out back?
>>752690380
This nigga knows.
>>752690878
That's the part they neglect to bring up. If they are a shitty server and don't get enough tips to make the minimum the employer has to kick in the difference to bump them up. They are bitching because they didn't want a minimum wage job, they heard about servers making mad money in tips, didn't understand that requires hard work and decide to bitch instead.
>>752691024
Actually it's if your livelihood depends on tips, make sure you do a good enough job to earn them.
>>752691039
This is why if I tip, I use my card to do it. It forces it to be declared on their taxes that way if the employer is legit and records the tipped transactions like he is supposed to.
Most do, because they don’t want to pay taxes on the increased income otherwise.
>>752689886
Which is nothing
Aussie here. Waiters and waitresses have poles up their ass. I went to the US and didn't know tipping was expected. I had breakfast at a diner which was pancakes and a blueberry muffin with a coffee $15 in total and I paid in advance at the counter giving her $20 and told her to keep the change. When the waiter came she greeted me and gave me my breakfast and coffee... after I finished she asked me if I wanted a free coffee refill and I said yes so she filled me up then she tells my my bills $22, $15 and $7 tip.. i look at her and told her I paid in advance with $20 and told the lady to keep the change then she tells me that's fine then the extra coffee she poured for me is now an extra $4 so at that point I got up to leave and she held me back telling me I have to pay... some wannabe hero faggot came up and held me and called the cops... cops come, I show my receipt and end up paying another $4 for the coffee and getting a warning from the sheriff.
Yeah nah go fuck yourselves cunts
>>752691197
Nobody hears about servers making good money and decide to be a server. You're thinking of doctor, lawyer or even engineer, not server
>>752691301
$200 / 8 hours = $25 per hour
Compared to other unskilled labor, it's pretty damn good.
>>752691342
Where did you visit?
never understood this tipping shit, alright, your salary sucks but why do i have to pay you if you can't find a better job. i earn 200 fucking bucks a month and no one gives me any fucking tips
>>752691431
Just like yourself and waiters most poor people are angry and bitter and take it out on strangers instead of themselves which is one of many reasons why they're poor to begin with.
>>752689606
You make $2.13 an hour because of exploitative labor practices. Want to blame somebody, wage slave? Blame your cheap-ass employer. You're doing nigger work anyway.
>>752689606
Stfu and make me a drink man servant
>>752689850
Because we've all fallen for the meme and people are guilted into tipping. What ends up happening is the servers making double what the cooks do.
So people that bring you food and work half the hours take home more money, tax free.
I fucking hate servers.
if they make under minimal wage, they are required by the goverment of the united states to receive pay offsetting them back to minimal wage.
the fact remains thats the only reason to heavily bitch about tips is if you are wanting more than minimal wage, in the case, work another job, or you just want to get money right away, or in a method that you can skim a bit to claim you made less.
notice i said get a higher paying job, not get an education. when I was putting myself through school, I wanted more than I was making from working at a burger chain, so instead I applied and worked a stresfull job at a call center. I went from making 8 usd an hour to 13.25 usd an hour.
if you dont love working stressful jobs, gain mastery of something you do want to do, be it from education or some other method and then work on whats called, you know, a career.
nothing in life is easy.
>>752691425
Neverland - because it never happened.
>>752691301
Dude, i make 90€ a day as a programmer in Belgium. What kind of glue are you sniffing to think that 200$ is nothing.
Your houses are dirt cheap yet your pay is huge. Over here a decent home is 200k, you could also buy a 100k 100 year old house with a broken roof
>>752691381
For people without a college education, people looking for a part time job, or for young people they hear about the tips or think about how much they leave in tips and think they its a lot of easy money.
Spent money from tips on BTC and still work for $16/hr as a millionaire. Keep on tipping, faggots.
>>752691407
And its the most wishy washy pay ever because they aren't going to make that everyday let alone every week there are slow periods
I make $42 p/h before ot working on average 8-12 hours ot at a job that required a ged or higher so I dont see the excuse of waiters unless it's at a 5 star restaurant.
I only know one person that works at one but he makes $16 p/h +tips at a restaurant were the average price per plate is ~$120.
Of you aren't working in a resrurant like that Wtf are you doing.
>>752691000
there is a big difference between smoking a joint after work or being coked up all the time.
>>752689606
you americans and your absolutely retarded system of tipping make me shake my head every time. Why the fuck should I pay your bills, its your bosses obligation to pay you. Not mine. Get yourself a job that pays decently. Or move to a country with less retardation in its working system.
>>752689606
if you only make $2.13 an hour and rely on tips, then stay the fuck home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPsC60eLpxE
>>752691659
nobody working for tips can afford to do coke all the time
>>752689606
lol clearly you aren't a bartender, all bar areas are to be seen and open by customers and all the beer and shots are obviously at the bar right there.
Food maybe, but you can say that about anywhere.
This is now a failed bait thread
>>752691561
90€ a day.
8 hr work days.
11.25€ an hour.
That's like 12 or 13 USD an hour. You can make that in the states working fast fod. You need to demand a raise.
>>752689606
Imagine reading this while being a eurofag.
Tips are given only when you want to tip(mostly praising the good attitude and service).
>>752691659
>did weed after work
>not everyone is drugged up
Part of why I rarely go places where tips are expected is because I don't want to pay a forced tip. It's a terrible system that I do not want to support, but I will be made to feel guilty upon doing it and perhaps will experience worse service should I go there again.
Pathetic that anyone defends this system. Demand real pay from employers and do away with the tipping based pay system and the customer expectations that come with it. If not, then fuck off and stop being a pissy fuck if I choose not to pay. But since I know neither of those will happen, I simply stay away.
>>752691751
You have never been in Belgium, my boss pays roughly 40 bucks but 66.66% go to taxes immediately.
Fuck socialism
>>752689768
This guy gets it.
>>752691503
Imagine being this retarded.
>>752691799
>feels guilty
>scared of bad service like he’s someone special enough to remember outside of the hundreds of people they serve a week
Stop being a delusional faggot - no one is going to remember you unless you’re a screeching autist like normal.
>>752690149
>I know what I'm talking about guise wikipedia says so
You fuck off, autist.
What about cutting logs? Logs don't pay tips.
You know he'll come
>>752689606
I hope robots come and take away your jobs entitled fucking cunts.
>>752691733
depends where you live I guess.
>>752691943
Or a regular at a restaurant/bar?
>>752689606
Get a real job you fucking parasite. I could train a monkey to pour drinks and tip it with bananas. You probably get your recipes off a phone app, you worthless shit.
>>752692162
2/10 try harder.
If I get tipped a dollar I don't care, the tips average out anyways. I still get to go home with a good 150
>>752689606
You signed up for 2.13 an hour. You deserve that. If you give me average tier drinks from refilled bottles you get no tip and if one of my dudes sees you spit on a glass you'll earn 0.00 an hour because I only go to clubs I know the owner of.
To all the people who don't follow the above - Git gud.
>>752691937
>Imagine trying to refute someone without anything but ad homenim
>>752691980
I used it because of retards like you not knowing how to read government websites and laws.
Retarded faggot.
>>752692238
Homenim ay
>>752689606
making it the customers responsibility to make sure your personell is well paid is the smartest thing a bussiness has ever done
>>752690816
Everyone past 20 years old working service industry in America is on drugs. I guarantee it.
>>752689606
why wont u show us your identification document and say where u work, so that we can let your employer know what u r doing, then?
if u dont like earning 2$/h, stop working there
>>752691557
I think you meant the netherlands, retard, learn to spell
>>752692038
Who cares?
They give poor service - complain to management or if they fuck with your food/drink that’s a crime and get the police involved.
I’m not their fucking personal charity dispenser - they go fetch the food like a good nigger and bring it to me - even a dog can play fetch.
>>752692313
Castrate yourself before your stupidity can be spread.
Never understood the point of tipping a bartender. I've never seen that happen in England. It's not like they're doing a fucking difficult job. If they don't like their pay, fucking go back to school and get a better job don't expect a customer to pay you for pouring a fucking drink
>>752690929
which is fine in theory, but the second it looks like you're not making enough in tips so the restaurant will have to make up the difference, the server is getting fired.
>>752689606
Fuck off fag. I'm an Uber driver and pick up so many bartenders to bring thier asses home on Friday and Saturday nights and they NEVER tip. Go kys you hippocrite scum.
>>752692471
Tipping because you want to praise their great service, that's ethical.
Seconding this.
>>752689606
Canda has tips tacted onto the bill.
>>752689606
former delivery driver here.
The only thing worse than people who don't tip are people who complain about people who don't tip on social media. Bitching at assholes will not make them nice people.
>>752689886
"Because with guilt-charity, I can sometimes make money.".
Fuck off and get a real job.
>>752689606
get a real job, loser
>>752692535
yeah it's not like the uber app says you never have to tip your driver or anything.
>>752689768
server here.... fuckin right.
>>752692638
Some people do actually tip for good service and/or just because they want to be nice.
>>752691980
fun fact: by federal law you have to be told this information ,its usually in that big packet of stuff they give you that you dont read, and sign a document saying you have read it. it is also required to be posted in your place of business in a well traveled area, generally around where all the OSHA stuff
i wouldnt expect a dropout who has to resort to working in the food industry to know how to read tho
>>752689606
Tips arnt mandatory though.. its just polite
Not sure what it's like over there in America, but in the UK tipping is entirely optional and reflects on if you had exceptional service.
Tipping should act as a motivation for staff to perform beyond what they are paid for.
Any other system is just insane and makes absolutely zero sense.
>>752692715
I give money out to people begging on street corners because I want to be nice too.
It's called charity.
>>752689606
A fucking vending machine could do your job.
inb4
>It is everyone elses fault I never worked hard in school/got a trade
>>752692672
>le Uber, the most evil company in the world today, tells me not to tip, so I shouldn't tip the driver who gets paid literal peanuts per mile and per minute, and has car expenses such as wear and tear, gas, insurance, maintenance, etc.
Go kill yourself fag. You're the same type of scum passeneger I would pull up and cancel after 5 minutes and get my cancel fee.
>>752692715
That is the only tims I type for exceptional service not the half assed service I get from the pimple faced 19 year old at texas road house I have no problem leaving no tip or just a slap in the face tip, like my pocket change.
>>752690149
Legalfag
"The restaurant/bar doesn't pay me more than a peon wage, so in order to make a living I am required to get tips. It's the restaurant's/bar's fault.".
Yeah, well if the restaurant/bar would let me just walk behind the bar and pour my own drink or walk up to the counter at the kitchen and grab my own food, I would, but they won't let me.
It's the restaurant's/bar's fault I can't serve myself, so blame them when you don't get a tip for not letting me serve myself.
We are both the victim here.
>>752692792
giving money to panhadlers is not being nice. If they're begging on the street it's because they're irresponsible and self destructive.
>>752689606
how about a minimum wage ? thats not my problem when idiots decide to be slaves because of politics robbery. big ones transfer the problems to people and oh ... look what a self-determined fucking negro tells you how to spend your money
>>752692836
>bloo bloo uber treats me like shit
so get a real job?
>>752692836
Youre a glorified fucking taxi driver youre lucky if I don't puke all over your backseat while you drive me home you twat
>>752692944
If they are begging in a restaurant it's because they are irresponsible and self destructive.
>>752689606
why not increase the price of drinks so you can pay the employees more and then people won't buy drinks if they can't afford them.
>>752692740
>its le law so it always happens hehe xD
Never gone outside mommy's basement, have you, you fat neetcuck?
>pay me extra for my job I'm already being payed for so I can make minimum wage by being a dumb slut instead of asking my boss for a raise
>>752693006
Lmfaoooooo just try you pussy ass scum. My interior face cam will catch you on video, it will be sent to YouTube and to Uber, and I will collect. My $250.00 cleaning fee. Thank you very much :)
>>752693110
>if you ask for a raise you get one
>always
>100% of the time
When you do finally get a job (IF you do), you let me know how that works out for you, kiddo.
>>752691342
Isn't it strange to find out there are people even worse than you Australians?
>>752691980
Holy shit you're fucking dumb as fuck. Minimum wage is a law not a fucking option.
>>752693080
You're not even trying anymore.
>>752693330
"I'd love to pay you niggers less than this but Uncle Sam literally won't let me." -- Every Minimum Wage Employer
>>752693017
>people with actual jobs are equivalent to niggers standing around on the street harassing passersby to fuel their addictions.
"Okay."
>>752693330
>>752693384
>It's a LAW so it always happens
You're fucking naive as shit if you actually think this. It's especially common for smaller employers to not give a single fuck and pay you whatever you want, deny you overtime pay, make you work insane hours, sometimes off the clock, etc. When you actually get out into the world and experience it for yourself you will realize why I'm laughing at your fucking idiocy.
>>752693529
but it literally does always happen, you are in charge of reporting your tips anon. if there is something fucking you over there are quite literally entire government branches dedicated to unfucking you over
>>752689606
Nah. You are paid based on the service you provide. Dumping booze into a glass does not entitle anyone to a tip.
get a better job
>>752693529
eh believe what you want. honestly doesnt effect as i went to college for a STEM field and dont have to work for tips. im still not going to tip and your bitch ass cant do shit about it
>>752691342
Yeah this is fake.
Tipping isn’t a required exchange in the U.S.
Get that shit outta here.
>>752689606
>he's a pathetic Mericuck being paid in peanuts because muh free market
Working as intended, eh?
>>752691607
What do you do that required no training past GED/Diploma that pays that well? I am making about $51/hr with just a diploma, but I have nuclear training from the navy, and did some electrical training before I got out for my job.
>>752690149
ohh but then if i claim the minimum wage ill get fired for being a shitty server and have to get a real job
Hahahah fucking americans your country is fucked and full of inflation a job for a waiter arround brittan is £7 to £10 depending on your age if i was in america and someone asked for a tip i would ram my cock up your ass male or female and show you what a real tip is (op)
>>752694784
Ever feel tempted to sell those snuclear secrets?
totallynotthensa.jpg
>>752689606
>>752695017
Op you faggot
>>752692497
then go get a real job
>>752689606
I'm server in germany and i get near 10€/HR loan + ~ 3€hr/tip. We have the system that we split up the tips between everyone. So the cook, dishwasher etc all get their tips
>>752689606
How to get a tip as a bartender:
>Noticably hook it up with a strong drink and be a cool person
if that doesn’t happen:
>give lighter and livhter drinks progressively
You’re just as shitty as the people not tipping if you’re spitting in peoples’ drinks. I hope you never get a tip again.
>>752689768
You can easily break the system by everyone not working for poverty loan and everyone not tipping. Blame your boss and not the people which legally request your work
>>752693177
asked for raise, stated extra responsibilities i had taken, got a 10% raise
>>752695186
lol, nuclear secrets. No, but I have a recipe for some fantastic garlic beef I tested last night.
>>752689886
My drug dealer makes 5x that and breaks the law about as often as you people break health codes.
>>752694797
Then you sue them if you didn't actually deserve to be fired months ago. You deserve everything you get.
>>752695992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnbAvnRrQs
>>752689606
I like how some jumped up little glorified servant girl gets to dictate who should and should not come and spend money in her employer's business.
>>752692497
Gee. Whodathunkit - be bad at your job, get fired.
>>752689606
or you could fix your retarded culture
"we're gonna be capitalists but half our service industry isn't even gonna get paid lol"
>>752689606
Well every bar I've been to they make the drink right in front of my face so that's just bullshit
>>752689606
you sound entitled, op
>>752693529
You are required by law to report your tips to your employer for proper tax filing purposes.
If you don’t, the only person fucking yourself over is you because you don’t have a legal paper trail created to protect you from under payment.
Go suck a dick.
>>752689606
They make drinks in front of you at bars you underaged faggot
>>752691561
Yeah well in states that are actually populated, like NY, homes here are at least 500k for an average house
I'm more inclined to tip at the end of the night rather than after every single drink... does this bother bar tenders?
>>752695509
Most states have laws regarding cutting drinks. Someone report you to the state’s alcohol commission and not only do you fuck over your business but you lose your serving license and have all kinds of fines you get to pay for defraudment.
Tipping is a horrible system. Just make the food price higher, no tip, and pay the people more
>>752691607
>$42 p/h
>p/h
You can't be this retarded
>>752698084
>Yeah well in states that are actually populated
this is a weird statement to make... like you seemingly look down on other states for having a more rural environment and not for having one of the biggest cities in the US within their borders.
Fucking vote for a minimum wage you retarded amerishits
>>752692715
Good service increases tips by 1% on average.
>>752698190
b-but muh capitalism
>>752695626
Yes I agree if you don't voluntarily like working for under minimum wage. Voluntarily find yourself a better job. Learn how our capitalistic society works before you bitch about it.
>>752698264
Tipping only started cause muh probation
>>752689606
That bait is so poor that even beggars look down on it
>>752689606
LMAO imagine if people did stay you wouldn't have a job...
>>752692681
>>752689768
But if you would make less than minimum wage your employer will make up the difference, so what is the problem with people not tipping?
>>752689606
no you don´t deserve getting a tip for doing your actual job. if you are not happy about your income, maybe get a well payed job? do you tip your bus driver, math teacher, florist, cashier, kiosk owner? no? why do you deserve a tip and the rest does not?
>>752689606
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5884335b5e304
>>752693529
That's the employer's fault -- and the employee's for not standing up for his own rights -- not the fault of the customer.
As someone whos been a cook for over 10 years... fuck tipping servers.
If you can, tip the cooks who actually do 99% of the work and labor.
Why the fuck do you think you deserve an extra $5 because you told someone else what I wanted to eat then carried the plate to my table.
Half the time front of house people make more than back of house annually.
>>752698409
Because pouring drinks and carrying plates is "hard work" to entitled millennial niggers and they think they deserve more than minimum wage to do it.
>>752698193
nobodys looking down on anybody all that was mentioned was a difference in population
>>752694238
It is required in some restaurants, see:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6637437/Couple-arrested-over-theft-for-refusing-to-tip-in-restaurant.html
http://blog.timesunion.com/tablehopping/11470/college-students-arrested-for-not-paying-tip/
>>752698348
this
>>752689606
How about you get a job that pays you properly instead of expecting customers to make up for the fact that your employer is a fucking scumbag?
>>752693529
>It's especially common for smaller employers to not give a single fuck and pay you whatever you want, deny you overtime pay, make you work insane hours, sometimes off the clock, etc. When you actually get out into the world and experience it for yourself you will realize why I'm laughing at your fucking idiocy.
It's only common when you're working off the books or taking tips off the books. If you weren't trying to evade paying taxes then you wouldn't be fucking "fucked over", nor would it be common. This is why those of us who have real jobs are laughing at you and your fucking idiocy.
>>752689606
Get a job worth tipping. Opening my beer isn't worth a buck faggot. Bitch louder about a real job.
>>752689606
ill make sure to never tip again and only ask female bartenders
>>752698818
what is your occupation, mate
and no, i'm not the guy you are talking to
>>752698626
This
>>752698608
I worked as a head cook for a stadium concessions stand in my late teens, where the servers who were making tips were people who would take the order from the cashier, walk about 5 feet to the counter and ask for food, then walk 5 feet back. I only made about 50c more than them per hour and they were making up to $50 in tips a night. Boss wouldn't let us even set up a tip cup for the workers in the back, total bullshit
>>752689606
Rot
>>752698144
Not if they start with extra alcohol and reduce it to the offered amount.
>>752689606
Should've got a proper job if you can't deal with the realities of something being optional you cretin
>>752691342
Fake. They never charge for a coffee refill in America. Especially in a place that charges $!5 for breakfast. Go back to sucking the dead limp dick of Steve Irwin you Aussie cuck.
>>752691301
Fuck off you entitled cunt
>>752698729
lol this is the dumbest American shit ever.
>tip: give (someone) a sum of money as a way of rewarding them for their services
I don't understand all this fucking retardation. If they need to pay the employees more then MARK UP THE FUCKING FOOD AND PAY THEM MORE, INSTEAD OF GUILTING CUSTOMERS INTO GIVING MORE MONEY ON A WHIM.
Fucks sake.
>>752689606
That’s disgusting you fucking degenerate
>>752689606
if you make $2.13 per hour it's time to reconsider your life choices...
btw I always tip in cheap places
i only tip if i think you're doing a great job, but also waiters in my country make decent money, we don't americuck our people.
if i think you did a really shit job i'll piss and shit all over the bathroom as a punishment.
Guys, it's just a custom. If you won't tip, you are dicks. Just like taking off your shoes before you enter someone's house - or at least asking if you should
>>752694797
Then go work for fucking Panda express! They start out at $12.00 hr and you can be as shitty as you want.
>>752699065
Amerimutts worship democratic, free market capitalism, but their economic system is really just crony capitalism, with laws being dictated by wealthy business owners. They blame the customer for not tipping, even going as far as to detain those who don't, instead of addressing the elephant in the room: (figuratively, but often literally) Jewish businessmen.
>>752698729
Court ruled in favor of defendants and restaurant had to pay money, and the other one ends at the mention of court, which you know how it's going to end given the precedence set by the other.
So yeah, cops who don't know the law can arrest you, but its going to cost the restaurant a lot more than a few dozen dollars for the inconvenience they caused you by being as entitled as their servers.
Here's a tip for waiters, waitresses, and restaurants: If you want to make a surcharge mandatory, call it a surcharge and not a "tip" or "gratuity".
>>752691751
you are skipping the fact that in US you have to pay more for pretty much anything, and you also have poor social coverage provided by the state, if you lose your job you might be fucked
Also, stuff like meds cost up to 5x times more in US than in Europe, plenty of american families literally go bankrupt when a family member gets really sick and needs expensive therapies
>>752698852
Contract engineering for safety critical embedded systems.
>>752689606
Fuck off cunt
>>752698409
In ideal world, yes.
In world we live in, if you don't make minimum wage on tips, your employer will replace you with someone who can.
>>752699397
you mean sucking dick
>inb4 your mom's carrier
>>752689606
It's not my fault that your country's minimum wage is shit. It's not my job to pay your fucking wage, it's the employers. If you don't like it then find a new job or fucking kill yourself but please don't sook about something that simply isn't our problem.
>>752690124
> minus tax
I am yet to meet one that pays taxes on their cash tips.
>>752689606
Fuck all of you amerifucks who think tipping is mandatory
Fuck off
>>752699365
My wife is from Germany. Both of her parents are engineers, and have a very comfortable life. We were making as much of them in our late 20's as they were making after 20-30 years of work experience in Germany in a high skilled position. There are great benefits of living in Germany. The education and social programs are top notch, but the earning potential is not capped in America as it is in most European countries. Find what works for you.
I never tip if the service aint perfect. i am paying for the meal and the services . If ur gonna make me wait 20 mins for my bill or bring second course during the first. i wont tip. Never felt guilty, never will. want more money? Stop working in the service sistem and get and go to school. The chef actually gets paid because u need actual skill to make food.If ur a barista why should i tip if u just opened my beer or mixed some shitty drinks in a glass and made st more shitty. Most of the times people will tell me wow u have to tip her cuz she did a bottleflip or some shit... no if she gets the proportions wrong she is not worthy of my money.
>>752699458
Place & Route isn't much different from sucking the dick of transmission lines and electromagnetic theory (black magic).
>>752699802
you strike me as interesting person
>>752689606
stay classy, America
>>752689606
There is no obligation to tip in my country
>>752689606
"Give me money or ill spit in your food/ commit some other crime against you"
You and all bartenders are fucking scum, you are robbing people by forcing them to either tip or deal with whatever nigger shit you decide to do to their food
>>752689606
Here tipping is considered rude.
>>752689606
Get a real job
>>752698409
employers love stealing wages you stupid nigger
>>752700129
>Faggotopolis
>>752699620
the earning potential is not really capped in EU as well, unless you are considering the average jobs as a reference. Yes, you pay more taxes, there's no escape, but being a cancer survivor I can guarantee that having an excellent social healthcare is something that you appreciate when and if you end up facing this kind of problem in your life.
I think that you might have a better life in US if everything goes smooth and you never have to face tragedies or huge problems, but in my experience shit happens, and when it happens it's easier to deal with it here.
Just get a to go order. No severs involved.
No one tips where I live. All employees get paid well instead. Also I pay my drinks on a monthly tab, not every visit.
>>752691779
i live in latin america and we do the same. If you have a nice smile and talk to me in a good way i will tip you, but if i don't want, i would not.
Whats wrong with U.S.A?
>>752700604
>Whats wrong with U.S.A?
Everything.
>>752690058
if i dont want, i dont tip, simple. even if they did a great work, i can decide.
>>752689606
I drink tequila. Ill take my chances. Bitch.
>>752689606
Don't be fucking spineless and take it up with your boss, it's your bosses fucking job to pay you
There is no point in arguing. If nobody wants to tip then don’t...just expect alot of human dna and waste in your meals and drinks.
>>752689606
you're such a faggot
>>752689606
LOL
what if i dont? will u screech?
>>752689606
$2.13 per hour? In what fucking world?
>>752692004
Fucking this. Holy fuck.
Every server I know brags about how much they make in tips and then whines like a little bitch when they don't make as much in tips as they think they should
>>752692603
no they don't, fuck off
So many fucking people telling servers to get a real job if they don't like not receiving tips...
So they should shift careers so you can piss off a different person who hopefully will be less vocal about it? I mean, you're going to continue enjoying and abusing the service regardless of who is doing it. That's a given.
And in your fucked up, addled brain, you can't see how much of an entitled piece of shit you're being.
If you truly don't believe in the system, and dislike or hate the system, don't take part. Don't order delivery or sit down, take out instead. Or you know, go buy some fucking groceries.
Holy shit...
>>752702274
i dont take part in the system by not tipping, if no one tipped this wouldnt be an issue
>>752692004
>i hope robots terk yer jerbs
Better get building (and programming) then, nigger.
>implying i go out to pay for overpriced drinks and deal with shitty people in hopes of aspiring to some sort desperate form of social life deemed necessary by societies social media circle jerk culture
>>752690058
You have to tip... not "should". There is a difference. Which is shitty. We shouldn't be arguing about whether or not to tip but instead about how to address and fix the problem like adults.
>>752702660
The solution is easy. Make the employer pay a fair wage. Whether that means wage decreases for middle and upper management (ha-ha-ha) or price increases for consumers is up to the market to decide.
>>752690380
Getting doubles on single orders? Don't you realize that the amount of money you've spent by then would have bought you 2 huge bottles / kegs of whatever you're drinking.
Plus at bars and clubs, they just fill your cup up with ice and soda. There's hardly any of the good stuff you're there for.
>>752689606
Tips are not implied. They are a reward for great service. Personally I never tip because every waiter I’ve dealt with has been rude and slow.
Also it’s not my job to pay your wages, you don’t like making 2 dollars an hour then I suggest getting a degree and making something of yourself.
No. Fuck off commie. Force your greedy employer to share more profits with you in form of regular salary or quit and find better job instead of trying to force customers to repair your job low wage with hidden cost. Wishfull thinking retard. Will you pay extra to fedex courier that delivered your parcel? Or maybe throw few hundreds extra for doctor that operated your broken leg? They just do their job. Like you should carring plates and pouring liquids. Fuck I know its bait but I wanted to say that anyway ;). Do your job, ask for a rise, quit but stop begging me for a rise. Or if you are cute girl offer me a blowjob then I can pay extra no problem you just worked on two jobs waitress and a whore so its fair that i should pay for both services.
Most delivery drivers make 5-8/hr and use their own personal vehicles. They also aren't compensated for any driving costs, usually. Let's do some math, /b/!
Average miles per year: 25,000
Average cost of gas: 2.35
Average MPG: 22
Average brake pads/year: .75
Average cost of oil change supplies: 25
Average tires/year: .75
25,000/22 = 1,136 gallons, x2.35 = $2,670.45/year
Cost of brake pad service is ~150. x.75 = $112.50/year
1 oil change every 5000 miles = $125/year
Tires are $400, x.75= $300/year
Average cost/year of unexpected repairs: $600
Insurance for high mileage: $2400/year, difference of $100 from not delivering, so $1200/year
Total: 5008. /25000= ~.20/mile.
Let's say you live 5 miles away. That's 10 miles round trip. It takes 30 minutes in heavy traffic to drive to you and back. Driver is paid $6/hr and you didn't tip.
In this situation, he was paid $3 in those 30 minutes and spent $2 delivering your food. SO, he made $1 in that 30 minutes. Go fuck yourself.
>>752689606
>and I personally spit in your drink
Jokes on you, that's my fetish
>>752690816
You just admitted to taking drugs you retard. Get the fuck out of here.
4chan hates servers cuz they're a bunch of fat lazy fucks most likely can't hold a tray upright much less serve at a busy restaurant lmao stay pussies.
>>752699448
So people who suck at their job get fired, this clearly doesn't apply to the people who work as servers posting here because they haven't been fired!
Shut the fuck up bitch, and go fix my sandwich..Stupid whore
>>752691503
Eat at home then you fucking nigger
>>752691937
Imagine being able to hold a conversation.
line cook here
servers are the laziest bunch of entitled faggots ever to walk this earth. they carry drinks/food 10 feet and expect people to jsut give them money mean while the people actually doing real work in the kitchen usually make less money than them at the end of the day and constantly have to hear them bitch about how they get stiffed all the time. replace them all with robots or monkeys i say
>>752692672
You never have to tip your server, either, though.
lol usa
>>752704141
>server fucks up an order
>kitchen makes 2 orders
>server drops a plate
>kitchen makes 2 orders
>server lets food sit on the passthrough for 15 mins while she chats with the others
>kitchen makes 2 orders
>server does her job correctly
>gets paid extra
>>752704141
this. japan is doing fine
fuck your underpaid jobs. let people have decent salaries
>>752689606
so you violate laws and health standards because you feel entitled to my money, even though you provide terrible service?
>>752689606
Kek. Go to japan and ask for tips, just be prepared to be shunned
>>752704141
This, plus what the other cooks have said earlier.
Servers, most of the time, make way too much for what they actually do and have piss poor attitudes.
>>752689768
If you're too dumb to get a real job you deserve the pay you get. I don't tip, hopefully that is enough motivation for that person to get a better job/career instead of depending on other people being "nice" to make a living.
>>752704141
agreed, honestly should take away that 2.13 they get already
>>752689606
Spit in my drink and I'll knock your teeth out sue you and smile in the courtroom.
>>752704433
See
>>752702274
You fucking gook.
>>752689606
I agree OP
Everyone should just stay at home and not give any revenue to your workplace so they can continue to pay you 2.13 an hour.
You can always get paid in unsold alcohol or just get fired.
Way to go! It's better to not have a job if you're so bad at it that people wont tip you
>>752703441
>taking drugs
>smoking weed
How are your Xanax and Wellbutrin treating you, pseudopurityfag?
>>752689606
>country so fucked up clients have to pay the salaries of waiters
Seriously ameirca ....
>>752689606
Questions for waiters:
* Did I force you to become a waiter?
* Did I create a situation where waiting tables was the only job you could get?
* Am I relative of yours and therefore obligated to support you financially?
* Am I obligated to give tips to all service workers, including shoe salesmen and check-out clerks?
* Is your job the only low-paid job on the planet?
* Is your job uniquely onerous or dangerous so that you deserve extra money where paramedics and coal miners do not?
* Why do you deserve a tip for carrying food a few feet but the chef doesn't deserve anything for actually cooking the food?
* Am I preventing you from finding better employment?
* Am I forcing your employer to pay you artificially low wages?
If the answer to all of these questions is no, then my final question is this:
* Why do you deserve free money?
>>752703094
This
>>752689606
Where I'm from, tipping is not a "thing". Sure you can tip, but it's not a custom here, and a waitress here would have roughly 12-15 euros/hour before taxes.
>>752704559
Not everyone go drugs or smoke weed, im a pseudo basement dwelling nerd, i only play melee and study my major thats all my fucking life
when I use to drink, I would give the bartender a $20 for my first mixed drink, then I would refuse the change and ask if we were cool. all my subsequent drinks would be stronger and I got quick service. its not really that hard.
>>752689606
ahahahahah laughs in european
>>752704724
Adderall? Ritalin?
>makes a shit wage and has to live off tips.
>government refuses to pay living wage for service workers.
>get angry at other consumers.
>??????
>profit
To all the peeps like
>You pour drinks in a cup, get a real job hurr Durr"
Do you know how to make a good Manhattan? Do you know what the ingredients to a Manhattan are? Do you know how to make simple syrup or margarita mix from scratch? Let alone knowing how to make the millions of fruit girl drinks correctly, or the constant barrage of new shitty drinks made up by millennials? Do you know the difference between a stout and a porter? Do you know what an iPad is paired with for dinner? No? Then fuck you keep tipping you piece of shit.
>>752704828
>ask if we were cool.
WTF does that mean? That you don't expect to pay for any more drinks? That there might be a problem with tipping big?
>>752705048
Are you autistic or something? He is establishing a short-term relationship with his server by asking that.
