Anyone else here who used to be more SJW, feminist, equal rights, BLM, etc? But got fed up by the amount of idiots and extremists those movements attracted? And thus starting to become more MRA, nationalist, white supremacist, Neo-Nazi, and others related?
Because I'm certainly getting there.
Yep, liberal all my life even voted for Obama twice.
In the last 3-5 years though. the left has put it's pants on it's head in my eyes and can go fuck itself.
>>752644559
to be fair, its not like the right is any better.
>>752644615
The black-and-white politics of today is just flat-out cancer.
>>752644128
if you change your principles to avoid associating with people who share them, you're a tool
>>752644725
I hate the edge that comes with saying that I hate everyone, but I mean... Today's society is pure autism. Pic somewhat related
I was originally a right winger, then the right started becoming full of fundamentalist Christfags. Then I became a lefty believing in the SJW feminist nonsense. Hell, I was even regularly watching Steve Shives on the JewTube. THen I was #BlockedBySteve for suggesting a liberal YouTube host I really liked (Kyle Kulinski/Secular Talk) and for following TJ Kirk a.k.a. The Amazing Atheist. So now I'm a center-left lib stuck between the SJWs on the far left and the crazy fundie Christfags on the right.
>>752644615
The left and the right would both be fine if they still existed. Seems like there's radical left and extremist right and nobody in the middle who's just trying to get shit done.
I'm fairly sure both sides are being manipulated to increase tensions, probably to increase the perceived need for a strong federal government and a bunch of meddling-in-your-business because it's necessary to keep you safe. But that's just me speculating.
>>752644896
That's basically what it means to have principles. Not being around morons who devalue it, especially if they have the same principles as you.
>>752644128
>going from one extreme to another rather than just being non-autistic
you avoid the left because you don't like the extremists and yet you say you're becoming more like nationalists, white supremacists and neo nazis you dumb hypocrite fuck
if this thread isn't bait then you're dumb as fuck
I'm perfectly fine with gay people, but loathe anyone who identifies as a tumblr gender.
>>752644896
>muh principles
you're an idiot for continuing to subscribe to ideologies that's detrimental to both you and those around you.
>>752644128
>anyone else fed up with obesity, so are starving themselves to death?
>>752644615
The right had come around a lot on gay issues and the racism the left loves to accuse the right of having, never really existed. Race relations were about as good as they were going to get before the left decided identity politics was their way forward.
At the end of the day though, both sides just want to keep us divided and squabbling so their donor base can run away with all the money.
>>752645161
Not really. In OP's example he suggests completely changing his principles purely to avoid ridicule from his supposed peers.
>>752645121
That's more than likely part of the problem. I think a lot of is that we keep having these shifts in beliefs. So when we had Obama prez there was a lot of democrats in there in his first term.
But by second term people were getting tired of the democrats, so now we're into the fuckin Republican terms for a bit. And by the time Trumps done with his first term, we'll probably end up back in Democrat territory.
Cause let's be real here, Trump is just a puppet for a bunch of other retards.
i've gone completely the other way tbh OP
>>752644896
>>752645231
>>752645255
That happens all the time with extremist politics. When one of them becomes so caustic and overbearing, the other extreme starts to look like the better alternative.
>>752645161
no, that's what it means to have no principles and basing your interpretation of reality of social preferences
>>752645499
You pretty much summed up what I said haha
>>752645401
>the racism the left loves to accuse the right of having, never really existed
that's what right wingers keep telling me before they say how sick they are of niggers and spics
>>752644128
No. I used to be more le alt right but people taking it too seriously and literally wanting to hurt and murder people for no reason pushed me more left. SJWs were annoying but they didn't talk about en masse murdering people, sorry.
>>752644128
I stopped at going green party... (yes jill stein is crazy soccer mom tier that hijacked the party through nepotism)
people off all races and sexes can go fucking kill themselves for all I care we need less of them.
>>752644128
I got out of High school being an an-com feminist, then got into economics and all my opinions changed. I have no remaining friends from high school, which is healthy in my case but sad as well.
>>752645412
No, that's still what it means to have principles. Avoiding people who are becoming a handicap to your personability.
>ridicule
Who said anything about ridicule? And if that's the case, being at risk of ridicule by your own side, then you have further reason to leave.
>>752644128
weak people with weak minds are prone to being indoctrinated easily. You were once so you were again, not a surprise.
>>752645499
yes, in a world where people swallow one of the two visions of reality fed to them instead of using critical thinking that's exactly what happens
>>752645683
Sure Antifa has never hurt anybody ever. Keep your head buried in the sand sheeple.
>>752645683
>SJWs were annoying but they didn't talk about en masse murdering people,
nah, they only imply it.
There's a non-genocidal middle, you know?
>>752645673
It's not going well anymore, no. I'm talking about 5-10+ years ago.
>>752644128
Yup. I was one of those retards. I thought of myself as socialist or anarchist because I thought it was edgy and cool and because it was the opposite of what my parents believe. Thankfully I've been gradually redpilled by right wing people on YT and eventually /pol/.
I don't regret being retarded for the one year or so when I was a socialist, because it taught me a lot.
Feels good to finally be on the righteous path.
No I'm a currently apathetic fencesitter faggot who is too individualistic and relative to just state he's part of some trending group, but from what I hear I either get labelled a centrist or a coward, so there's no pleasing either side so whatever
>>752645859
>Keep your head buried in the sand sheeple.
you're mixing metaphorical animals.
>>752645573
Your statement has too many syntax errors to be coherent.
People have gone to commit massacres because they were sticking to their principles.
>Getting tired of extremism on one side
>Okay, time to check out the extremists on the other side
>Doesn't realize being cucked by corporations
>>752645835
That's the world we've always lived in.
>>752645932
you sound like a furry, fuck off
>>752645757
>got into economics
oh boy, you didn't get fed counterfactual right wing propaganda that are solidly disproven by the financial stability of social democracies and increased living standard of their citizens, did you?
>>752645906
>I either get labelled a centrist or a coward
You'll always get labeled as something because people like simple ways to say "they are a and these are b. i now understand EVERYTHING"
It happenes on every side of politics.
the problem is every 20 year old with next to no life thinking that they have any idea about the world, and this is what happens. people don't have any real agenda, because they don't have a real place, so they go to the extremes
id just say get your life in order and become a respectable member of society before you start telling everyone your political opinion as if it matters one fucking bit what joey two shoes who works at mickey d's thinks about anything
get yourself in a position of power where you can actually change shit, or shut the fuck up about it all, im sick of all my dumbass friends who have barely done a year in college talking about politics as if they're fuckin nietzche reborn
and if you're one of the political shitposters on this board or /pol/, then this post is 100% aimed at you, get a fucking life instead of bitching about the world you spastics
The key is to stand by your own principles and align yourself by what they dictate opposed to outside sources. I personally share the believe of George Carlin, "It's important not to give a shit."
>>752646032
How do you not know what a metaphor is?
>>752645859
ANTIFA isn't "the left", anon.
I've just recently turned this around in the last year or so. I wouldn't say it was as bad as being full-blown SJW to the extreme but if I gave myself enough time I would've gone down that path. I was introduced to the art of manliness and Gavin McInness by a couple of friends of mine, McInness was just for entertainment at first but I for one reason or another the things he was saying was somehow making sense to me, something was clicking in me. I don't think I had settled all the way on third-wave feminism and all that B.S. and hearing what McInness was saying kind of brought a different perspective that I hadn't considered before.
>>752645892
i'm talking about my entire lifetime because racism is part of the fabric of southern life
>>752645886
Which the far right and neo nazis are not on. I do not see anyone on the left implying it. Just retards like you stating anything but all white=genocide.
>>752646044
No, i studied economics for 2 years. In university.
I liked the subjects but not the eventual jobs i coould have so i switched to CS. I gotta say i like the social environment more too.
>>752645939
they have also gone to commit massacres because they changed their principles. maybe discuss the merit of the principles themselves and not of the people espousing them and you won't sound like such a dipshit
>>752646084
>The key is to stand by your own principles
People have gone on to commit some of the worst crimes imaginable because they were standing by their principles. At some point you have to drop them when they start crossing over lines inexcusable. Otherwise, you're no better than alt right extremists like white nationalists or neo-Nazis, who are also standing by their principles.
>>752646129
Well not since CNN found out what it really is and did a u-turn about their Antifa promoting peace through violence article...
>>752645906
there's two kinds of centrists people who are apathetic pussies and people who are centrists because their education and reasoning has lead them to that conclusion. You're not a good centrist unless it comes from a place of understand and reason.
>>752645906
>>752646196
I never said that, you shouldn't assume if you're trying to have a conversation, anon. They imply it when they call for forced wealth redistribution, btw.
I'm not far left or right wing. And i'm not white either...
You seem like an angry person, anon.
>>752644725
Both sides are idiots. I can prove it with math and science. Did I happen to mention I have an IQ of over 500? How do I downvote on 4 Chan?
>>752646311
No, they've gone onto said massacres because it was within their principles. If they actually changed said principles, the massacre in question wouldn't have happened. When you continue to stick by something unquestionably, you end up doing the worst things imaginable.
>>752644128
I think both sides are absolutely fucking retarded
>>752646378
>implying cnn defines liberalism
yeah, and fox news is invariably in favor of small government
>>752644936
Holy fucking treacher collins syndrome
>>752644128
Would straight up terrorize this cunt if that's what you mean
>>752646406
Different anon, being a centrist doesn't mean not taking a political stance, it means disregarding what side it came from and judge an idea by it's merits.
>>752646498
>trying to imply it dosen't
Were do you get your news source from? Salon?
>>752644896
Protip: if you're avoiding your own because they no longer align with your values, that's sticking by your principles, not changing them.
>>752646467
they changed their principles from not committing massacres to committing massacres. the nazis i mean. you know, the biggest fucking thing in world history that disproves your bullshit with one second of critical thought. the rest of society was suddenly ok with killing jews so i better go along with it. don't want to associate with those anti-massacre extremists
>>752646540
That looks like a goddamn tutti-frutti nazi. What a sick look it has in it's eyes.
>>752646406
But I didn't say anyone was dumb, I simply stated I'm undecided and dislike the lazy assumptions people make about each other, it's playground stuff. nice picture though, I know a few people like that but unlike you I'd ask why they felt that way not just stop at "oh another one"
>>752644128
>>752644128
>become more MRA, nationalist, white supremacist, Neo-Nazi
you're still an sjw faggot
>>752646179
I grew up white in Miami, basically a minority. And I lived in Ocala for a while. The only racism I ever witnessed was words used in jest or momentary anger.
No beatings, lynchings or killings ever. Everything about racism is super exaggerated and in doing so, it's making it worse as time goes on.
>>752646480
>policy and governance is made of of two equal and opposite sides!
grow up and define your policy positions you little bitch
>>752646540
are you the faggot who does those thread?
because why would you have that pic?
>>752646540
> is that um... a male?
>>752644128
since the day i was born i have always been "center" (or w/e this is, just to give a general idea) so i always had a lot of stored hate for the far left retards in the back of my head but the "real" bad guys used to be the conservatives, now since the end of 2015 im actually surprised that ive found myself having to defend the conservatives (and far right as well) more and more, i wouldnt demonize all of those people indiscriminately but i never had any reason to associate with them either, or just agree with anything they say in its entirety, i find this very bizarre
>>752646712
This, same shit diferent toilet.
>the MRAs do have some points tho
>>752646749
if they're letting the bad stuff slide from the right, then they sympathize with the right.
>>752645107
Head libertarian.
>>752646778
The vast majority of us aren't fucking "warriors" faggot
we think our shit through
>>752646560
no, it means you fall between the left and right in your policy positions. it has nothing whatsoever to do with your disposition or how you came to your opinions
>>752646162
McInnes is a total degenerate cunt. He's entry level redpill, and he's very annoying besides that.
>>752646749
Holy fuck you're stupid
>>752646658
No, they committed the massacres because, again, it was within their principles. The Nazis, for examples, their principles were that certain groups of people are the cause of society's ills, and thus killing them was a way to fix the world. No principles changed, otherwise they wouldn't have done the killing.
>>752645825
weak people with weak anuses are prone to being penetrated easily. You were once so you were again, not a surprise.
>>752646935
anon's right
you centrists are cowards
>>752646911
I left that behind a while back. Like I said, more for entertainment value but I did agree with him on a few things but overall, I think he's pretty extreme.
>>752646768
I don't have the pic
I don't start threads
>>752644128
His rank is too high for his age. This is an SS Brigadefuhrer which means he would have been a Brigadier General in the US Army. He should have been at least in his 40s.
This punk is barely in his 20s. faggotry pic.
I'm a leaf, so I voted for the "NDP" last election.
Now I feel the conservatives are too weak. We need a strong nationalist leader like Trump. But it isn't happening.
>>752646935
dismissal is much easier than rebuttal
>>752647008
Yea, because alt-right and alt-left groups arent fucking destroying this world with their ridiculously petty problems and ideologies. Fucking grow a brain.
>>752644615
Well yeah deep down they both have alot of nut jobs. Though since the election the nutters on the left have been going apeshit,
That's why even though i did not vote for the orange dumbass i still like to trigger dumbfucks by saying i did and telling them we have 7 mores years of him!
i find it sad that so many people base their entire political opinion on extremists who triggers them.
>>752647141
There is no alt-left you fucking faggot
>>752646975
>implying germany started out nazi
i'm not asking much anon. 6th grade knowledge of history will suffice
>>752647086
>Trump
>leader
kek
>>752646894
What if i agree with gay rights but not abortion? Or agree with a free market and social programs at the same time? Are those not right and left wing positions held at the same time? Because that's how most centrist hold their political beliefs. Does that not mean that i don't care where the idea came from but its merits?
Nobody is going to tell you we should allow 50% of abortions or gay marriages, you know? There are no centrist policies like that.
>>752647141
You're afraid to get your hands dirty.
What is your #1 reason you keep coming back to this board?
>>752647215
Do you live under a rock or something
>>752647215
As a leftie, there absolutely is an alt-left. They are the hategroups which are an alternative to the normal left wing.
>>752644128
So you moved from version one of retardation to version two? Congrats, you're just a retard.
>>752647215
Sure there is. Just like the alt right tag as created by leftist faggots.
r/ChapoTrapHouse
>>752647267
>why aren't you tuned into my hivemind?
>>752647215
When I was younger, I'd consider myself a 'feminist' because I thought - well if it's about equality then surely it must be good! Boy was I wrong
>>752647290
No there isn't you fucking faggot. Shut the fuck up.
>>752644128
Have you thought of being neither? why choose a side. Why not just ignore and be happy.
>>752646877
Neither are the vast majority of SJWs.
>>752647299
your gay
>>752647256
What about if they said we'll let lesbos get married but not homomen? That's around 50% kek
you should only look out for yourself... but don't go full nazi
>>752644128
i dont like idiots. so i became one
>>752646935
this, you don't live in a direct democracy you're powerless without a party. The best thing you can do in join a party, have a lot of money and start twisting arms for them to get it. We're literally institutionalized corruption from the ground up.
>>752647359
yeah but righties are the ones saying sjws are bad
you're being hypocrites
Why did I even bother reading all of this. Jesus fucking christ what the fuck did I expect from some randos on 4chan
>>752647338
There is tho. Alt-right groups are hate groups. Alt-left are also hate groups.
>>752644936
Cute family you have there
>>752647346
whatever side you claim you didn't chooe, you elected Trump
>>752647256
then you're liberal or conservative on those issues on particular. also yes there are middle ground positions on both gay marriage (civil unions) and abortions (retarded indefensible 3 month limit instead of sensible 6 month limit)
>>752647216
German nationalism and antisemitism had been around at least a century before Nazism. Example: Wagnerian politics.
>>752647418
Both sides want to send the other into a forced labour & political re-education camp. So...
>>752647266
incest. the one thing all sides can agree on
>>752647478
There is no "alt left." Antifa is not an organized group.
Meanwhile the alt right is a real high profile thing. They're neo-nazis..
>>752647320
I demand a "they're turning the logs gay" edit
even the god who is omnipresent struggles with the domain that is of an infinite measure, omnifiscience is the obstacle, immortality is the yield, ad naseum.
>>752644128
Yes and we're all in the same boat /b/rother
>>752645673
Being sick of niggers and spicks is something I hear too, but it is coming from equality when I hear it now. That wasnt the case 100 years ago. Back then they hated minorities because they believed they were sub-humans(I agree). The racism of today is whites viewing minorities as equals and wondering why the fuck we have to subsidize them and why we constantly have to apoligize for unfair treatment that never happened in our lifetimes. Think of the whole stupid NFL thing. Them dumb fucking rich monkeys think the man is keeping them down?
>>752644128
>Anyone else here who used to be more of this kind of retard? But got fed up by the retards the retarded movement attracted? And thus became more of another kind of retarded?
Because I felt retarded reading that.
>>752647554
No, those you claim to call "sjws" are usually the biggest human rights supporters, anon. You just laugh at them because they're LGBTQ.
>>752644128
I was all kinds of proud for having the opportunity to vote for Obama in 2008. I was so excited when he won, and the opportunity it would afford black people to raise themselves out of the ghettos and violence that have plagued them for 100 years.
8 years later and I'm like "Clearly they're beyond help. Absolutely NOTHING has changed, and it has, in fact, gotten worse. The only way they could have failed to better their situation while a die-hard sympathizer to their plight held the most powerful position of authority in the entire world is if they either enjoyed their position in society and didn't legitimately want it to change, or if they were fundamentally incapable of changing themselves, and ghettos and violence are their racial destiny."
both sides are bluepilled retards anyway
>>752647588
>>752647319
feminism means different things to different people. MRAs are feminists
>>752647581
Lol you're fucking retarded
>>752647686
>>752644128
fake post, fake poster
back to pol with you, untermensch
I used to be a hardcore Bernie supporter. Then I realized that all of his promises were unobtainable without raising taxes immensely or cutting important programs. I'm Canadian and I personally hate how our country is run. I would much rather be in Trump's America.
>>752644128
I mean...there are just as many dumbasses who are extreme right. You're just not hanging out with them enough.
>>752647535
and yet they didn't massacre them until the nazis came and changed everyone's principles
>>752647499
>then you're liberal or conservative on those issues on particular.
Aka not a left or right winger aka a centrist.
>there are middle ground positions
Yes, perhaps i didn't pick the right examples.
Personally i don't see any reason to not let gay people marry, and i think every single abortion is murder. Am i right wing or left wing? Since neither is a middle ground.
>>752647554
Maybe that's why you were born, think about it. To be plucked from life and put into a room full of screaming lights and sensory mindfucks.
>>752647751
Hahaha...Bernie supporter who's Canadian? Fuck outta here. Go pay attention to your own fucking politics and get off our lawn, no voting asshole.
>>752647711
you're in middle school
>>752647924
at least he wouldn't have voted for Drumpf
>>752647964
Not really. Most of the country condemned the neo-nazis in Charlottesville. Trump wouldn't. He's like you, faggot.
>>752647866
you're liberal if you hold liberal positions, conservative if you hold conservative positions, and centrist if you hold centrist positions. i'm sorry if no labels neatly apply to you. also the faith tenant that all abortions are murder can not be defended
>>752648005
He's Canadian. His opinion doesn't matter when it comes to elections.
Plus, being Canadian, he'd have probably protest voted for Jill Stein cause they actually think the Green Party is a good idea up there.
Can't we all just agree that everybody in here should kill themselves?
>>752647850
Nazi's didn't change anybody. They just tapped into what was already there and fed it. If anything, the political stances that already existed simply grew to the point we now know them as. No one's principles changed, they just led the charge.
I'm liberal about rights that matter. Over time people on the left have been getting outraged at more and more to the point where it minimizes those who actually suffer.
Most importantly, their failure to deal with the spread of radical islam and the threat islam represents to freedom and liberty in general was the tipping point for me.
The liberals are going to need some pain in the form of a Trump presidency if they're ever going to be of value to the country again.
>>752647751
it would help if anyone in corporate america paid the taxes they were suppose to. They're basically given free reign to plunder our economies and almost none of that money makes back into circulation because it's reinvested elsewhere. I don't like the whole socialist utopia thing but he's absolutely right about the US taxpayers getting screwed because the rich won't pony up their dues.
>>752648063
Do you really think that picture is false in any way? you are an example of PEAK intellectual fallacy.
>>752648131
It's not the same Green Party you ignorant shit. Maybe your opinions shouldn't matter here, either.
>>752647850
>until the nazis came and changed everyone's principles
that's not how it works.
>>752647581
BLM is and so is feminism. I wouldn't be surprised if Antifa became an organised group.
>>752646196
holy shit this is perfect
>>752648179
>rights that matter
>spread of radical islam
you aren't a "liberal"
fuck off
>>752648253
I think you're mad because this country regards whites and blacks as equals under the law. You would prefer a different arrangement.
>>752648161
Why do you limit it to in here?
>>752647847
Honestly, I'd rather be trapped in a room with an extreme right than an extreme left.
The extreme right will go off about race, and homosexuality, and the dearth of religion are damaging this country, but the left will go off about how *I* am specifically the problem because I don't fight for their notions of social justice, and *I* am scum because I'm a white heterosexual man.
One is distasteful, and the other wants me eradicated. I'll take the distasteful one.
>>752648294
Nothing fazes useful idiots like you. You'll believe whatever /pol/ tells you to.
>>752648128
Of course, if you keep defining said labels as you will, that they will mean what you think they mean.
But that's not an argument in a discussion about those very same labels.
>>752648388
Hmmmyess
>>752647622
>The racism of today is whites viewing minorities as equals and wondering why the fuck we have to subsidize them and why we constantly have to apoligize
sometimes it is, most of the time in my experience is because they think white people are genetically superior (invariably being a bad example of that themselves)
>for unfair treatment that never happened in our lifetimes.
well this is false and everyone knows it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/?utm_term=.d0f09a343b17
>Think of the whole stupid NFL thing. Them dumb fucking rich monkeys think the man is keeping them down?
those human beings think their fellow human beings are being oppressed and are using their platform to bring attention to issues that are important to them. that being said football is boring as fuck and you shouldn't be funding it in the first place.
>>752648381
what have i said to make you assume that? please do tell.
>>752647751
>Then I realized that all of his promises were unobtainable without raising taxes immensely or cutting important programs
>implying people won't net save money when they don't have to pay insurance companies anymore and won't lose their house when they get a serious disease
>implying canada's healthcare system isn't proven to work better than the united states
>>752644128
I'm the other way around. The "anti-sjw" "centrist" "rational skeptics" started looking more and more retarded as the days went by and I started to see what the "sjws" were actually saying, and how they've been misrepresented by right-wing retards.
That's not to say there aren't bad feminists, but 90% of every political persuasion is made up of retards. If you think you're not a part of the 90% you're wrong.
>>752648169
i don't think you understand how police states work kid. first they get into power and then you agree or else
>>752648313
Fuck off, troll. I'm a liberal but that doesn't mean we should tolerate all religions and cults. As a feminist I don't think we should tolerate Islam at all.
>>752647581
"Alt-left" is an umbrella term, much like "alt-right," to describe certain branches growing under left-wing AND right-wing ideologies. Antifa falls under the alt-left umbrella in the same manner as how the TWP falls under "alt-right."
>>752648610
Most people don't get a serious disease until they're so old that they don't care about treating it anyways.
Before the ACA, people didn't HAVE to waste money on insurance they would probably never need. I'm all for insurance companies not being able to deny people coverage if they want it, but the tax penalty for not participating is an injustice.
Do you think Canada's healthcare system would support 320 million people? It seems to barely work for 50 million.
>>752644128
You are being tricked by nazi sockpuppets. Don't fall for it.
>>752648427
of course, if you don't care about words making sense and conveying information, you just call yourself whatever and hope people understand what that means about you
>>752648689
Police states have to win people over first, and tap into whatever is a growing concern at the time, in order to get to that point. Very similarly to the other post-revolutionary government.
if you go from the left to the right, youre a moron. Sure i cant stand these hyper sensitive liberals and i no longer identify with barely anything they do or say but its not like the right is any better
>>752648490
If negroids would stop killing each other at rates 10 times that of whites, maybe they'd be searched for weapons less and busted for pot at the same rate as whites.
>>752644128
Fully liberal
I believe humans are the scum of the earth and will go extinct because of gread and stupity though so sont really care if its left or right its all dumb as fuck.
I was doing stuff to save humanity, fuck it im done. Im building an ai death god.
It will replace us or integrate with us making us a new hybrid species, like the borg
>>752644128
>Anyone else here who used to be more SJW, feminist, equal rights, BLM, etc? But got fed up by the amount of idiots and extremists those movements attracted? And thus starting to become more MRA, nationalist, white supremacist, Neo-Nazi, and others related?
>implying these aren't two equally retarded ends of the same spectrum
Nazi/nationalist faggots are literally SJWs from a time when it was socially acceptable to be racist. Every time the KKK lynched some nigger it was because he was doing something "socially unacceptable." And to be honest, despite the fact that they are even more self-righteous and obnoxious, at least the modern SJWs don't kill people over dumb bullshit.
>>752648915
The world is a better place for the nazis having existed.
The things they did were terrible, but those terrible deeds taught humanity things about ethics and morality that had never even been considered before.
Lessons that we've been forgetting in the last couple decades.
Why label yourself this or that...I can hear you snoring God... smh
fags
Christ, /b/ is easily baited these days.
>>752648425
I don't use /pol/, unlike them and you I use my brain.
I'm getting more conservative but I hate anyone who identifies in any way with nazis.
I'm also sick of the entire country reducing all discourse to comparing the other side to nazis.
>>752644128
Capitalists have their own special snowflakes too and whine about it all the time. They need curbstomping every bit as much as any other sjew.
I've just stopped caring about other people's specialness and entitlement to being recognized, and gone full commie.
>>752644128
Yup. Not going 1488 or anything because that's fucking retarded. But I used to consider myself an arch-liberal and all the gender pronouns, misandry, hate speech, and general lack of a sense of humor by the tolerant left has really dried up my old dick.
>>752648425
>spells "faze" correctly
holy fuck how'd you get here?
>>752649589
Which kind? Pinguism?
>>752649628
>"tolerant" "left"
These are the bourgeoisie Marx warned you about. Not collectivist in any way.
>>752649437
>/b/
No, this is the absolute state of politics atm.
When this finally blows up, it's going to be hilarious and/or devastating.
>>752649003
They would if they could.
>>752649003
Saving that pic for future trolling purposes.
Consider this your first and only warning.
>oh no i hate all sorts of extremism, i am a conformism and support the current system and capitalism is fine.
sorry but capitalism is an extremist stance itself where few people have almost everything and the police protects them, while most people have very little and have to work their ass off to live a life that is not a complete fuck up.
i say give people democratic control not only about politics, but what to do with private property. thus not making it private and give it to the public. no more empty standing houses while there are homeless people. no more throwing away food while there are people dying of hunger. no more excessive luxury while most people cant afford enjoyable holidays.
>>752649659
Ancom, tolerant of ansyn. Notwithstanding that, I'd line up all the trolls everywhere and have them shot and left to bleed out, after I've removed their genitals with dental picks.
>>752644128
started out with leftist indoctrinated mindset but took the red pill around 10 years ago from there on it only got worse ...
>>752644615
It's fun to be be in the right, not the left with the soy hippies and nigger dick sucking trannies though.
>>752650085
nah, you're just a latent douchebag wannabe.
those bourgies aren't even leftist. only an amerifat would be so brain-damaged and cucked as to think that two corporations define the possible range of political ideology.
![[guitar thrashing in distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vOyvPw0.jpg "[guitar thrashing in distance].jpg")
>>752645470
Derek is pretty fucking hot...hands off incest faggot.
>>752644128
Basically you hate the extreme left that's filled with retards and don't even consider the middle but just jump to the other extreme? Amerifags are the epitome of autism.
>>752650085
And yet you whine like little bitches when antifa actually uses violence.
Maybe you're just useful idiots of the ruling class. Not saying you are, just that you should seriously consider the possibility.
>>752649687
>Not collectivist in any way.
>>752649633
Why of all things are you impressed by that?
>>752646445
>How do I downvote on 4 Chan?
With Dubs or Trips.
>>752650270
>calls the bourgeois cultural authoritarians "extreme left"
>calls amerifags autistic
Democrat shill detected
>>752644128
ill just leave this here
>>752650479
I am falur caus muh rasasm
>>752650270
There is no middle in a two party system. Even if you don't vote at all, you still helped the winning side by not voting against them.
>>752650329
Lol whoever said I participate in your demonstration faggotry. Holy shit you're a dumb fucking nigger. I vote from the rooftops like the Korean fuckers do to stop looters and Anti-Fa from sacking hard working businesses.
>>752650479
"Reverse racism" how about just calling it racism?
>>752650444
I think it's the first time I've seen faze spelled correctly this year on /b/.
>>752650380
>he really thinks that groups competing in the oppression olympics and establishing their own respective aristocracies is collectivist
Hoe does it feel to be this useful of an idiot for neoliberalism?
>>752650479
A real leftist would drop the goddamn ledge instead of deciding who deserves to be up there.
>>752650479
Oh look, The progressive stack narrative HARD at work painting the niggers as oppressed...versus the lazy fucks they really are sucking the welfare tit.
>>752650812
Reverse racism doesn't even exist. It's just racism.
>>752650681
>implying the two party system should be respected and not sabotaged and destroyed
Good, and we'll do it again until all you two-party-tards are dead or upselling fries.
>>752650683
>le hard working maymay
0/8 your bait smells like Hillary's diapered crotch
>>752650906
My words, exactly.
>>752649696
Nothing's gonna happen. The media exaggerate stories for clicks. Remember "Occupy Wallstreet"? This is just like that.
People are living in their mental world and like to imagine they are witnessing something big.
It's all just a fad.
>>752650851
That's a rather easy way of viewing things. Good for people who don't like thinking for too long, or changing your mind.
>>752650851
oh look, an edgy teen posting le helicopter meme, thinking he himself won't get the parrilla come revolution time.
Calvinists are mentally ill. I'll have a lot of fun torturi- er, treating them once they are recognized as such.
>>752650973
OWS was pretty real until the democrats inserted themselves and their bourgeois sjew shit into it and the FBI and democrat mayors coordinated to crack down on it.
>>752651008
>muh changing your mind
Kill yourself, evangelical shill.
>>752650906
Not true. Racism is by definition something only white people can do. The word was invented for the purpose of attacking white identity. Don't rationalize it by pretending it was ever meant to be universally applicable.
>>752650973
The media crushed and laughed at Occupy. They are doing the opposite with identity politics, it's 24/7 in news, movies, TV and interwebs.
If it's a fad, it better work itself out quickly.
>>752651113
Nice fantasy. It was an unorganized mob centered around an internet joke. There was no leadership, no clear demands, no real threat to the establishment. Just a media spectacle.
>>752651008
Who is keeping minorities down? Every human has to obey the same laws and has the same opportunities. Its just that statistically (crimes for example) blacks tend to stay in their bubble (e.g. ghetto culture)
>>752651049
oh look, edgy, butt hurt $hillbot, supporting pedophilia, transexual, and radical islam whilst calling other people "mentally ill."
throw the retard some peanuts, laugh, and move on to the next exhibit.
>>752650959
>>le hard working maymay
>0/8 your bait smells like Hillary's diapered crotch
I said I'll be voting from the Rooftops faggot.
>>752650479
Yeah that's not how it works. I was born poor as dirt from a backwoods extremely religious large white family that was getting ready for the end of the world. I was so poor we had pictures of all us kids wearing the same t shirt when it was our size, holes stains and all. When I was growing up there was often times I went hungry because payday was 2 days away. Then when I became a man I scrambled to find something of value to add to society so I could earn a living. I studied my trade, didn't go out on Saturday night, worked through my lunches and after many years found success. I know what it is like to crawl your way out of poverty and it is tough. But an excuse is a seductive thing. An excuse makes you say "why even bother? I am too oppressed for success. I might as well put this book down and forget about even trying." That is what is truly keeping black folks down today, an excuse.
>>752651202
>>752650812
reverse racism: giving somebody an advantage due to that persons race
racism: giving somebody a disadvantage
duh
both are wrong. but affirmative action is not reverse racism if you want to reverse the damage that you have done in trying to create equal conditions.
if you live in a shitty poor family, well your chanches to end up rich are smaller than if you are already rich. and since wealth is distributed the way it is, as long as there is capitalism, you will get fucked over the generations more and more, since poor people cannot build up their own businesses that well if they lack the starting capital.
>>752650973
nah, the media keeps stoking it HOPING for something big to happen. mass shootings just don't have the same appeal anymore.
it will happen sooner or later and it'll be fucking hilarious to sit back and watch the left get obliterated. They can't even meme, let alone fight.
>>752651202
>by definition
Whose definition? The bourgeoisie's class-denialist definition, which is invalid.
>>752651399
>implying that people need to be ruled because you aspire to be the ruler one day
not an argument
>>752651482
Kill yourself, neoliberal.
>>752651523
You'll be sucking oligarch cock from the rooftops, you mean. Just admit you're a slave willing to give your life to save yourself from having to treat other people as human and jump already.
>>752651549
>implying that everyone will receive the same results from doing that
Sounds more like you just want to get free shit for having once worked hard. This is a perfect example of the mental illness of Calvinists.
>>752646162
consider eating a shotgun shell :^)
>>752651747
>the left get obliterated
The democrat establishment hopes for this too. You sure you're not one of them?
>>752644128
You're looking for people that went from one extreme of idiocy to another?
It's probably not uncommon. Idiots are idiots after all.
>>752651376
They keep it going because of their anti-Trump narrative. But eventually he'll do a few things they like so they stop hating him, so they don't need the useful idiots anymore. Then the rhetoric will stop.
>>752651202
You're talking about institutional racism in america. That's something only white people can do.
But just the concept of racism is universal.
Anyone be be racist against any race.
>>752652061
You're quite the optimist sir.
>>752645470
I actually want a flag like that.
>>752652105
Institutional racism?! Examples pls.
>>752644128
You just described almost everyone on 4chan. Almost.
>>752651783
Yes, some people can't find success through hard work, they are called morons. Learning discretion of what to work hard at is the biggest key to success, but you don't want solutions, you want excuses. Watch that.
>>752651990
Indeed, they are two sides of the same right-wing idiocy and cultural micromanagement as a distraction from material concerns.
>>752652271
Israeli shill spotted
>>752651783
>implying that people need to be ruled because you aspire to be the ruler one day
Not saying that at all. I'm pointing out that while it feels good to be part of an unorganized mob, they rarely achieve anything. Coordinated, hierarchical groups are extremely effective, whether you like it or not.
I'm 45 yo Hispanic.
Liberal all my life,
But now I'm a Maga ,Trump supporter.
I would like to be in the KKK.
I hate niggers and criminal Hispanics as well
>>752652508
Coordination is more effective than hierarchy, from the group's perspective. The Art of Not Being Governed is some good shitter reading.
>>752651135
Ok, I should kill myself for daring to suggest you may not always be 100% right
truly ebin
>>752651446
thats not what the post said, you're justing changing the message to easier support it. They said "niggers aren't oppressed, they are lazy and misuse the welfare system"
>>752646445
>both sides are idiots
>posts rick and morty
fucking faggot
>>752652696
It was obviously satire, brainlet
>>752644559
+1. Next election, I'll be voting Republican for the first time.
>>752644559
Biden wants your mouth and hands off the keyboard and back on his cock, since all the financial industry jews are off for shabbat
>>752647086
after Layton died, NDP sucks ass.
Used to be pretty hardcore blm and sjw. Now I’m moderate on most things. Going to far to one side or the other makes you a huge dork
Started as a hardcore Bernie bro and now I get so fucking annoyed by the left.
>>752652105
Looking after your own race used to be considered normal. Actually it still is, as long as you're not white. If you're white, it's considered a sin. The concept "racism" was invented to decrease the power of white people specifically. But in order to hide the purpose, it is defined in universal terms. In practice, only autistic people call out blacks when they try to promote their own race. Normal people understand that only whites can be racist.
Similarly, feminism is supposedly about equality, but in reality it is just a pure anti-male force.
>>752652696
>Taking bait so obvious it's probably meant as irony
>not being a lgbt, nazi, blm, mra, satanist, christian, hacker, muslim, cuck, pedo in 2017
>>752644128
>got fed up with the amount of idiots and extremists
>became more nationalist, white supremacist, Neo-Nazi, etc.
this HAS to be bait, right?
>>752653078
sanders made a whole lot of sense in a backwards way. He's not a typical democrat or republican, which was the appealing thing about trump. Neither of them are/would have gotten anything promised passed because they're both so off-the-wall compared to your standard congress people, but at least sanders would have been able to veto the corporate assrape bullshit instead of enabling it like trump is doing.
I voted for sanders and I voted for ron paul the last two elections before that. They're both fucking nuts, but they both were willing to admit that the US government is lead around on a leash by people with lots of money.
>>752653078
>get annoyed so hard you throw in with white supremacists
wew lad
>>752652677
Nice in theory, but in practice people will just try to dominate each other and end up with hierarchy anyway. Mostly they just split up into different groups.
Coordination doesn't happen by itself. I didn't see any serious efforts toward coordination in OWS, and neither are there now. They are not a threat to the establishment. If they don't gain any real victories soon, people will just lose interest again. Similar to libertarians. Most of them just gave up and boarded the trump train instead, or became SJWs themselves.
Even Microsoft
neo nazi's are an embarrassment to real nazis and the white race
>>752653828
No wonder the SJWs prefer to use Macs
>>752644128
I was a real old time liberal back in the hippie anti war days. I'm in favor of nationalized health care and against greed, but the left nowadays seems to be made up of a bunch of shrill kiddies wanting to play life on easy mode.
This comment is an example of the extent to which I involve myself in this bullshit. I will not read the replies or, obviously, reply to them.
>>752653649
Affirmative action has gone too far when Obama's children are given a better chance at school than disadvantaged whites.
Calling them white supremacists because of it is intellectually dishonest.
>>752644128
i used to be more of the latter you mentioned.
then i became a misanthropist.
fuck everyone
fuck the government
fuck society
fuck reality
fuck everything
its too tiring for my conscience.
just wanna play my vidya, get my money, read my books, drop my acid
and mind my own fucking business.
SJW cucktards can go kill themselves
and RW MRAtards can go die while LAPRING in the forest with their wooden swords for all i care.
>>752645470
>the confederate flag means rayssit.
Fucking hate people.
>>752644128
Almost drank the SJW koolaid before I found Gamergate.
Same here.
Of course I was some blue-pilled fag years ago.
Now with sites like /pol/, Jewtube that's not a total echochamber I was able to form my own opinons and become Right-winged.
>>752646071
>im sick of all my dumbass friends who have barely done a year in college talking about politics as if they're fuckin nietzche reborn
Im sick of all my collage friends acting like they are bill gates intelligent because they took a mediocre course.
>>752654118
>literally admitting that you're pure cancer
Oh look! A bunch of open minded people changing each other's opinions. What a wonderful thread!
>>752653862
"the white race" is an American invention
Real national socialists would be more specific.
American "nazis" claim Roman culture as white, but italians are genetically much more similar to Jews and Berbers than to the Germans or English.
>>752653115
>things don't change
>movements are never hijacked for nefarious purposes
I think you'll find a lot to respect in first-wave feminism. As usual, the bourgeoisie ruin everything when they start taking shit over and playing pretend.
>>752653712
>try to dominate each other
But once they try, they're literally expendable. Hierarchy may happen as a practical matter, but what's important is to ensure that hierarchy isn't permanent.
>They are not a threat to the establishment.
Not now, of course. They got shut down. They were enough of a threat to the establishment that the FBI was more than pleased to sit on credible reports of people voting against them from the rooftops.
Many, but you couldn't possibly know "most". There's no real saying what they did afterward. I don't think too many of them joined up with bourgeois politics afterward, seeing as how it was bourgeois politics that broke their movement.
>>752654412
America is built on Judeo-Roman culture.
>>752654412
italians are hard to categorize
>>752644128
>Anyone else here who used to be more SJW, feminist, equal rights, BLM, etc?
No, I've never been a retard. I mean, I'm for equal rights, but only as far as opportunity and only as far as the law is concerned. You have to be a special kind of retard to not go for actual equality (e.g. you're just basically asking to get fucked in the pooper once your team is no longer in power).
>But got fed up by the amount of idiots and extremists those movements attracted?
Yes, from the beginning. But I saw through their bullshit and called them on it, and was never part of it.
>And thus starting to become more MRA, nationalist, white supremacist, Neo-Nazi, and others related?
No, like I said, I have never been a retard. All this stuff is just as authoritarian, just as identitarian, and every bit as retarded as the alt-left.
>Because I'm certainly getting there.
So let me get this straight... you were an SJW type, you got fed up, you bypassed moderate politics and went straight to the alt-right? Good luck with being a different flavor of retard.
>>752654499
English common law is roman. Right.
>>752654544
how about "mediterranean"
bump
>>752654544
Italians are caucasian for the most part. Sicilians are a bit different though. they got invaded by the Zulus and every woman was raped, that's why they always have that curly hair.
>>752654545
/thread
>>752654425
>the bourgeoisie ruin everything when they start taking shit over
Keep trying the same thing over and over again, then. Maybe one day you'll get a different outcome than the last 50 times.
Trump
>>752655161
Inspirational
>>752644128
because THOSE dont attract extremists!
Leftists should read some economics 101 and evolutionary biology. Maybe they'll understand why nobody with money (outside of academia & the media) listens to them.
>>752653862
This.
“Neo-Nazis” get drunk, beat each other up, they’re loud, they’re stupid, have zero personal hygiene, don’t take good care of their bodies, have shit education, retarded tattoos everywhere. These people are basically anti-Nazis. And funnily enough, if the Nazis back then were alive, these neo Nazis would’ve been sent to the camps like every other degenerate.
>>752655161
This is actually why I voted for him.
>>752655161
This takes me back. He has become so politically correct! Why does he call it "fake news"? Why not "judenpresse"? He should really watch those old interviews and remember what his original mission was. Less jobs/economy talk and more gas chambers!
>>752655035
You have to win every time. We only have to win once. What happens when you don't have the trillions of dollars to throw at sabotaging it anymore, hmm?
>>752655291
>implying that economics is not literally moral philosophy hiding behind math
Kill yourself, neoliberal.
This is waht liberals actually eleblieieilve
