earth is flat look at the evidence
>>752512876
How to prove the Earth is flat:
1) Get a powerful gyroscope, on gimbals so it can rotate freely to keep its orientation as you move it.
2) Take the gyroscope to somewhere that round-earthers say is 1/4th of the way around the world.
3) Look at the gyroscope. If it's sideways then the earth is round.
4) But it isn't, because the earth is flat.
>>752513061
Another way to prove the Earth is flat:
1) Wait until the day of a total lunar eclipse.
2) Find out where on Earth it is still sunrise during the eclipse.
3) Go there, look at the horizon, and see the Earth's shadow on the moon.
4) Notice that the Earth's shadow is flat like the flat side of the Earth casting it, instead of round like the sun and moon.
>>752512876
If the Earth is flat then explain mountains
>>752513466
kek, and checked
>>752513466
Mountains are just an illusion caused by perspective. They aren't real.
>>752512876
A cash reward of $100,000 has been offered to anyone who can send us, by e-mail, conclusive physical evidence of the existence of the moon. This reward remains unclaimed.
http://www.revisionism.nl/Moon/The-Mad-Revisionist.htm
OK I’ll bite. How to account for 24hr day/night if earth is flat?
>>752512876
OP is a faggot.
>look at the evidence.
>>752514050
>>physical evidence..... by email
ofc it remains unclaimed ffs!
>>752514270
The sun revolves around the earth, causing day/night cycles. Duh.
>>752513466
it's a lie from the globalists
>>752514428
For 24hrs a day like in Alaska or Russia? Nope
>>752512876
"evidence"
The only Flat Thing is your mind.
10/10 thred i have cancer now
>>752512876
Where were you niggerfaggots two days ago? We already determined that earth is a rhombus
>>752514579
Yes, you fuck. The sun revolves east to west, not north to south. Of course it'll look different in the north and south than it does in the west or east. You can still see it over the fucking edge through the night.
>>752514050
you can't use sonar to detect the moon but you can use radar. lasers would not be fair because light hasn't been proven to be physical but radar is.
>>752514777
>light hasn't been proven to be physical but radar is.
>>752514676
Since you’re clearly a moron that doesn’t understand English, allow me to elaborate. There are times when the sun doesn’t set for weeks in some parts of the world, and times when it perpetual night for weeks also. This is caused by the earth’s tilt which shows its round. How is this possible in the flat model?
>>752514948
Seasons, motherfucker. Have you heard of them? If you tilt the sun up towards the northern edge of the earth Russia can still see it at night when it's summer there.
These guys are pretty hillarious. I wonder what caused the huge spike in interest over the past year or so.
Their 2-hour long documentaries on youtube are priceless.
>>752513061
You didn't take the change in angular momentum when you move across the globe into account.
Watch any time lapse video of the stars at night time and tell me the earth is flat lol
>>752515105
(This was a troll proof. There is no change in angular momentum, it's a gyroscope, it maintains its own orientation independently due to gimbaling. If you try this experiment in real life, the gyroscope turns sideways slowly as you travel. But the troll can count on nobody actually trying it.)
>>752515169
The earth is flat and the firmament is a crystal dome with stars painted on it which spins above the earth. There are also windows that can be opened and closed, which god opened once to flood the earth with the infinite water that fills space.
>>752515043
That in no way explains why the sun would shine for weeks in that part of the world
what if earth was a ball
>>752512876
Does anyone know how the flat earthers explain why you cannot see the sun all the time with this model? How would it ever go below the horizon?
>>752515291
I just fucking explained it, you fucking cuck. The sun's tilted up into view during the summer because of the fucking tilt.
>>752512876
Please jump off the edge then...
>>752515338
Nice
>>752515081
This is the “because I say so movement” never any proof it’s just assumptions that always end with an insult. They’re like the antifa of science without the violence
>>752515344
Except flat earth doesn’t tilt, round earth does. Thanks for proving my point
>>752515419
Hey, if the regressive leftists hadn't resorted to violence, Hillary probably would have won. But they just had to go fucking rabid, because it's what their ideology is.
>>752515338
They're clearly not able, because they lack the common sense... or they're just trolling.
>>752512876
Question for you or. Are the sun and moon also flat disks?
>>752515460
The fucking sun tilts, you dipshit. The axis is tilted relative to the sun not the fucking earth! What, you think the north pole sticks straight up out of the Gulf of Guinea and the south is out the bottom of the world? Goddamn you're stupid. The sun moves. Around the earth.
checkmate flat earthers
>>752515653
nigger
>>752515653
AWESOME!
>>752515594
The sun and the moon are lights attached to the firmament. They're neither flat nor round, they're more like desk lamps with shades on them.
>>752514676
That would explain it up north but not on the south pole if you use the spotlight sun model shown in the OP as the sun would have to cover the entire circumference of the disc
>>752515653
fuck off
>>752512876
>>752514543
ever heard of perspektive? ever looked at a straight road?
>>752514553
>>752514543
>>752514494
i could see how this is convincing to children.
are you also saying that clouds are flat and are all in the same plane?
>>752515728
And how do these move around? Is the firmament rotating with the sun and moon?
>>752514777
lol ... radar is a type of light.
EM spectrum just longer wavelength.
If you believe that the Earth is flat your mother will die in her sleep tonight
>>752512876
Welp, that convinced me. Thanks Dr. Scientist
>>752515778
OP's image is a faggot. The north pole isn't in the fucking middle. That's where Africa is. The world is centered around where the Garden of Eden was. Antarctica isn't a fucking wall that goes around the whole thing. Just the south side. There are north and south edges just like east and west edges, and in summer when the sun is going under and over the north side of the planet, if you're north enough you can see it at fucking night. Same in the south when the sun goes south six months later.
>>752512876
Explain the seasons
>>752515608
WOW you guys are pathetic. Logic is clearly not your strong suit as with all flat earthers. There is no tilt on a flat earth or everything would slide to one side. Remember, gravity is fake? So you can only have a tilt if the earth is round.
>>752515858
The firmament is a crystal dome covering the earth like a snow globe. It has tracks on it and the lights move on rails like an orrery as it rotates.
>>752516080
It's the sun that tilts, for the third time, you deaf faggot. You can see it over the edge if you're close enough.
>>752514777
Trips wasted imho
>>752515608
And the sun tilts that’s just desperate! Please post 1 proof that shows this. And no assumptions please
>>752512876
Explain moon cycles and gps then.
>>752516134
>the lights move on rails
The sun is a train??
>>752515336
ha lol....
gravity ... towards the center of mass.
>>752516134
How far up is this dome?
>>752515652
i came
>>752515336
What is 3dimentional space?
>>752516275
way up,
way up in there.
>>752512876
Your moms tits are flat
>>752516142
I dunno, "lasers would not be fair because light hasn't been proven to be physical but radar is." has some good copypasta potential.
>>752513263
Or move to california and build a rocket
>>752516134
>it’s the sun that tilts
You forgot to say “because I say so”. All flat earther arguments in a nutshell
As a pilot and some one who has been all over the world I can tell you now the earth is not flat, you lot are a bunch of morons who should be shot
>>752514050
>physical evidence
I'm not gonna go there and take a chunk of it you dumb motherfucker.
Just buy a 500x zoom camera.
>>752516166
Just put a stick in the ground somewhere and watch its shadow in the summer and the winter. You'll be able to see the sun rising in a different place over the horizon and casting its shadow in a different direction, fucktard. The sun fucking moves in the sky. Seasons are caused by the axial tilt of the firmament.
>>752516216
More like a tracklight. It swivels north and south through the year to mark the seasons.
>>752516275
It's at the lower edge of the first heaven.
>>752516432
No, not because I say so, because you can fucking see it with your bare fucking eyes.
>>752516436
Found the jew.
>>752514050
Look up. See moon.
Give me munyz
>>752516524
Exactly my point assumptions is all the proof you have you unscientifically trained buffoon. Thanks again for proving the low intelligence of flat earthers
>>752516524
>It's at the lower edge of the first heaven.
Oh sweet, so we just need a strong enough rocket to get to heaven and punch god!
bait
>>752516524
Stand on the beach on a clear day somewhere where you can see another piece of land several tens of kilometers away. You cannot see the shore of that land, usually just the hills. Why?
earth is flat because paper is flat
/thread
My evidence is surface tension. Why are bubbles round? Because surface tension. Boom take that flat ass earthlings
ok all trolling aside, how do they explain nobody ever seeing an edge?
>>752513821
um yes mountains are real, how much of a dumb dumb can you be?
>>752512876
I, and other flat-earthers in every hemisphere all around the globe, agree with you OP.
>>752516837
Right. I feel they would make tours and cash in on seeing the edge of the earth. Id pay to see that shit.
>>752516524
>with your bare eyes
This dude stares at the sun for whole seasons to see how it tilts. Explains pretty much everything doesn't it?
>>752513821
Until you try to climb one and you die of a heart attack
ITT: morons arguing with morons
>>752516954
>lonely faggot doesnt know how to have fun
>>752512876
What would you benifit from knowing the earths shape?
>>752516625
> calls you out for making 'assumptions'
> replies with more assumptions
> ignores being told how to check and why with his own eyes
> won't even acknowledge the sun actually rises in different places on the horizon during summer and winter
> says i'm the one with low intelligence
> found the troll
>>752516627
That didn't work for the Tower of Babel, and it won't work for you either. The window to the first heaven of water doesn't open from the inside. And if you got there and did open it, you'd drown us all again.
>>752516675
Hills are bigger and easier to see than flat land. Oceans are even bigger. Perspective shrinks things that are further away, and air acts as a lens that curves light upwards since air density is higher closer to the ground and there's less interference in light's path further upwards. So when you look towards the horizon, if something is too far away, you can't see it, because the light curved up and missed, and you only see the sky.
>>752516837
You see the edge. It's called the horizon. You just never actually tried to walk there yourself and jump off. You just believe other people who say they went there.
>>752514678
Well their plan isn’t working, billions of people still believe in god. What else you got?
When a ship is coming toward land, anyone watching from land will see the top of the mast first, with the rest of the ship coming into view from top to bottom.
How is that possible on a flat earth?
Why is the only planet in this solar system a sphere, but not the Earth?
Easy answer. I
Because the Earth isn't flat, but cave-cucks are still sadly among us. Any "flat earther" must be fucking eradicated. Retards.
>>752516937
> get a stick and look at the shadow, i said
> he stares with bare eyes at the sun for whole seasons, you said
I want to keep toying with you, but I don't know how to discredit you any further.
>>752515282
So I guess asteroids/meteorites have the access codes, or a team of rebels destroyed the shield generator on the moon.
>>752516873
moar of her
>>752512876
Wait for that guy to fly with his DIY spaceship.
This'll become the purgatory of flat Earthers
>>752517196
Stars fall from the firmament all the time. This is not surprising.
How much there are "so many flat earthers around the globe", but no one has made it to the edge?
>>752512876
Well, you can travel all around the world.
>>752516134
does the sun tilt or does the shade tilt around the sun? I think you may have dug yourself a hole here my friend, so I'm trying to help you out. For my own amusement of course
>>752517276
Its protected by turrets
>>752515338
as can be seen here >>752512876 light only travels a couple thousand miles before abruptly vanishing/stopping.
>>752517110
if the light "curved up" because of atmospheric lensing the horizon would not be flat.
>>752517276
You can't reach the edge of the firmament. Those who approach in humility, ignorance, and curiosity are gently turned aside and find themselves somewhere else. Those who approach in confident arrogance to seize what is God's get Tower of Babel'd.
I have seen Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn through a telescope with my own eyes. If they're round, why would Earth be different?
>>752517248
Meteorites and asteroids aren’t “stars” they’re hunks of rock and metal.
Try again
Earth is an infinite plane. Youre being lied to.
>>752517129
Can anyone answer this?
>>752517110
so of the billions of photographs ever taken nobody has ever decided to take a picture of the edge...
>>752517355
The moon's shade causes the phases of the moon. It is for marking the passing of months and weeks.
The sun moves north and south along its track to rise in different places in the summer and winter. It is for the marking of seasons.
The firmament rotates every day. It is for marking the separation of day and night.
So are flat earthers double retards in thinking that the earth is not spherical AND we live in a geocentric solar system? These people need euthanized.
>>752517434
Who are you to decide this? Did you happen to come across every meteorite?
>>752512876
God can only make a finite space for us to live in.
What a weak ass mother fucker.
If Humans can fathom infinity but god can't then I believe it is time to replace god
Why is the shortest distance between two points on a map a curved line?
>>752517129
Tweak the draw distance in settings
>>752512876
What the actual fuck
>bait taken
First things first. Why on earth would anyone care if the earth turned out to be flat? If they went up into space (which btw, we still have people up there.) And saw the earth was f lat why wouldn't they just be like "oh shit."
>b-but the moon landing was faked.
If that is the case my point still stands. If science somehow found out the earth was flat why hide it.
Second off. If the sun revovles east to west like you guys say. Wouldn't the sun melt your icewall?
Also this shit is easily made false if any of you poor redneck fucks would go into a fucking plane.
Does it make sense if every other planet is spherical that we are the only floating disk planet out there?
You guys are fucking retard.
Irrelevant, this is all a simulation anyway
>>752517404
So what you really mean to say is that you lack the conviction to actually prove your beliefs.
I don't get it, man. You could be a hero, exposing the powers that be for the frauds that they are. You could be the one to singlehandedly prove the existence of God, BTFOing atheists eternally. Why not take that extra step towards greatness?
>>752512876
Small question OP : Where's the North pole and the South pole ?
>>752517607
You have to curve a sphere to put on a flat map. Distance points are straight on a globe.
Pyramid earth brother
>>752517389
Of course it would. It does that no matter which direction you look, so it always looks the same in every direction, flat. The same as you round-earthers think it should. If you were standing on the surface of a ball and looked north, then west, you wouldn't see the land sloping down away from you. You'd see a ring of the horizon being at the same altitude, all the way around you, because which way you turn doesn't affect the phenomenon. You think it's due to the land curving down, I know it's because air diffracts light differently at different densities, but neither changes that the horizon would still look flat.
Except you round-earthers do have a problem, because staring straight forwards you should see the horizon in the edges of your vision curling down, because you think the earth is a ball, not a cylinder that just bends in the direction you happen to be facing. So it would have to bend down in front, and then bend down further off to the sides. But it doesn't. The horizon is flat.
>>752517538
Are you saying the sun moves north and south? Or is the firmament round and the track is a circumference?
I'm getting lost but I Am fascinated
Have some bird in her undies
>>752517827
north pole exists atop the firmament, pointing the way toward the second heaven
south pole is poland
>>752517929
Can you mark those on the OP picture please ?
>>752517873
>never seeing ships curve over the sea
>nvere going up into a relaly high tower where you can literally sew the curve
>horizon is flat.
Bad b8 is bad
>>752517110
>replies with more assumptions
And yet can’t actually explain or account for 24hr. Light. The burden of proof is on you dingbat. That 3rd grade experiment you described can easily be used to account for earth’s movement. Therefore you’re ASSUMING that it pertains to the sun’s movements.
>check with your own eyes
Ever heard of optical illusions? How are you sure what you’re seeing with out any other verification that this is the case. Even police say the worst evidence is eyewitness accounts and yet this is the foundation of the entire flat earth movement. Don’t know what’s lower, your acceptable levels of proof or your intelligence. Must be intelligence since you have to be an idiot to accept such a low burden of proof as fact. This is fucking Neanderthal simpleton science right here
>>752515653
Even though posting this makes it worse since it makes lurking faggots like me post as well
>>752517404
They start speaking a different language?
I'm still waiting for someone marking on that flat planet where's the north pole and the south pole is.
>>752517567
Idiotic response..6/10 for getting me to respond
Try again.
>>752516524
>logical evidence
lol fallacy train awayyyy
>scientific evidence
science doesn't work
>physics explanation
physics research falsified for thousands of years
>personal experience
lying shill shitlord homojew
>photographic evidence
doctored by fisheye lens
>video evidence
moving pictures are from the devil
So what would it actually take for you to let go of this fantasy?
>>752512876
hol up, are you saying the earth is strong enough to move the sun and moon?
>>752517434
I hope you get hit in the head with a shooting star.
>>752517512
You can't get to the edge.
>>752517421
Why would a light bulb be different shape to a table cloth?
>>752517594
God can make whatever he wants. He made a finite space for a finite existence of finite beings. He put everything you'd ever need right here, and put you there with it so you couldn't wander away and get lost in space.
>>752517607
It isn't, on a map it's a straight line. If you distort the map to make it look like a sphere, you get a curved line. You also fuck up your map, because it was supposed to be blatantly obvious that the earth was flat, and the fact that you can't make a map into a sphere without fucking it up somewhere was your big hint something was up and you should stop fucking up the map.
>>752517809
It didn't work when Emila Airheart tried it. I have faith in God, but not in you cucks.
>>752517913
All you have to do is mark the place on the horizon where the sun rises and sets through the year to see that it moves north and south.
The firmament is round. All the lights in the night sky are on it. The track is a partial circumference.
>>752518078
> And yet can’t actually explain or account for 24hr. Light
Already did multiple times. You deliberately ignored it each time. If you're near the north edge, and the sun is in the north because it's summer, you can see the sun at night over the edge.
> Ever heard of optical illusions?
Yes, and I've had to explain to you cucks how they work.
Actually, thanks for continuing to respond. I'm pleasantly surprised to learn that it really is possible for your credibility to go even lower than it was before.
>>752518271
Or something else. God doesn't do the same thing every time. Sometimes he sends Muslims to invade you and rape your women for being such nigger faggot cucks. Other times, he Sodom and Gomorrah's you for it.
>>752513061
This experiment doesn't work because there's too many outside forces acting on the gyroscope, the friction of the gimbal and air resistance is enough to stop it from turning.
But if you don't use a cheap ass homemade setup you can actually do this, gyroscopes in airplanes have to have a special system that cancels out the curvature of the earth because otherwise they'd drift out of alignment.
>>752518518
The earth to be round.
>>752518649
If they didn't the computer to lie about the earth being curved, they wouldn't have to correct their own lie to make the plane work right.
On top of being a flat earth retard, he's religious as well....
a double whammy of gullible
>>752518771
Cut the shit and grow the fuck up already. You are not smarter than everybody because you believe the Earth is flat.
>>752518628
I might be thick here and I'm sorry for being a bore, but.
The sun rises in the north, sets in the south, rises in the south, then sets in the north, is this what you are telling me?
Or
The sun rises in the north, sets in the south, the firmament then rotates, so that the sun that set in the south is now back in the north?
Have a happy dog
>>752515595
my thoughts exactly
>>752518771
You don't understand what i'm saying.
It's doing the opposite, it's making a round earth appear flat for the pilot's convince
Because the earth is round, the artificial horizon will start out pointing at the horizon, but when you move 1/4th across the earth, it'll be pointing straight downward, this is not what we want because it'll confuse pilots, so there's a second gyroscope moving the main gyroscope the other way around to have the horizon stay where it makes sense.
>>752518628
>It isn't, on a map it's a straight line. If you distort the map to make it look like a sphere, you get a curved line. You also fuck up your map, because it was supposed to be blatantly obvious that the earth was flat, and the fact that you can't make a map into a sphere without fucking it up somewhere was your big hint something was up and you should stop fucking up the map.
What is mercator projection?
>>752517873
You have a very poor understanding of optics if you think lensing could distort an image in such a way that the horizon would still be flat, yet the islands would somehow "sink". A continuous optical lens creates a continuous image, which means it can only stretch and sqeeze certain parts of the image, but they cannot disappear. If the earth were flat you would see the shores of other islands.
Oh, by the way, the light curves down in the atmosphere, not up. The only time it curves up is when the air next to the ground is very hot and thus less dense. Light prefers to stay in optically denser materials. This is the basic principle behind optical cables.
If earth is flat as op says, why NASA has to coordinate space shuttle with orbitation paths and why planes has to fly from america to japan in high alttitude like a wave
>>752518628
>And yet can’t actually explain or account for 24hr. Light
Already did multiple times.
It’s ignored because those are called assumptions or guesses. Hell, what you point out doesn’t even make sense. Now flat earth tilts and so does the sun. Whew lad, just cover all those bases. It might be good enough for a simpleton such as yourself, but not for a person with even a quarter of a brain. Thanks for proving my point again and again and again. Also, it’s because you said so
>>752518969
Not smarter, just correct. Even people waaaaay smarter than me can be wrong. I mean, for sake of argument, let's say that both Trump and Hillary are smarter than me.
But at least one of them is fucking wrong.
>>752519055
> The sun rises in the north, sets in the south, rises in the south, then sets in the north, is this what you are telling me?
No. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
> The sun rises in the north, sets in the south, the firmament then rotates, so that the sun that set in the south is now back in the north?
No. The firmament contains a segment of north-south-running track which spans 47 degrees. The sun moves north and south along that track, completing a cycle every year. The firmament rotates every day. If the sun is in the northmost parts of the track, and you are near the north edge of the world, it will still appear day even when the sun is below the world, because you will still be able to see the sun, because it's tilted up where you can see it.
>>752519230
I understand what you're saying. You're saying you believe the earth is round. That doesn't make you special.
>>752519402
I stopped to check this, since it was something I could test with things nearby.
>holy shit you're right.
Okay then. Thank you. I have to think about that a bit. I've clearly got something wrong. Gonna go pull on this thread a bit and see what unravels.
>>752516238
i can't see gravity so it's not real
>>752516238
gravity is a lie invented by the jews
>>752519593
You are not correct. The fact that you are wrong and still thing you are right is what makes you stupid.
>>752519833
*think.
Hate this phone.
>>752516954
4chan.
So, I'm facing a bit of a conundrum.
I've been a flat earther all my life. I'm used to hearing all the typical round earther conspiracy theories and excuses for why people deny what the Bible clearly states. But God wouldn't lie. Not about the Bible, and not to make air curve light one way but not do it for optical cable just to fuck with me, and not...
So I'm face to face with some uncomfortable contradictions. And I'm not willing to throw everything away just because I was wrong once about one thing, but... the rest can't exactly just stand.
Prove to me everything I was taught was shit. I have to settle this, one way or another.
>>752512876
I thought Russia was bigger than Australia. With that model, please explain why it take more time to travel end to end in Russia than anywhere else?
>>752520177
Well, start listing the things you were taught
>>752514678
Why would evolution be out if there was no big bang? The big bang theory was developed much later than evolution.
>>752518628
>It didn't work when Emila Airheart tried it.
So she got "Tower of Babel'd", but that didn't stop Victoria, The Chicago, or the hundreds f thousands of others that circled the globe before and after her? At least fucking try, troll.
>It isn't, on a map it's a straight line. If you distort the map to make it look like a sphere, you get a curved line.
Show me your fucking map then, because there's no fucking way you have one that reconciles a flat earth *and* can actually be used to navigate. I have never seen such a map, and can confidently say that such a map cannot exist.
>>752520199
To flat earthers maps and globes are lies
>>752520271
How the fuck would I even know what things to list, if I'm questioning the very shape of the fucking earth?
Were blacks slaves in the US?
Is the Bible not real?
Did Nazis kill Jews?
Are we evolved from fucking monkeys?
Did we really land on the moon?
Are leftists for real, or just a parody like Westboro Baptist Church?
>>752520378
because they don't know what evolution is, and they attribute all the things they don't understand to the same conspiracy.
>>752519593
Think I get you now, let's see
The sun travels from the north to the south, but very slowly, the firmament is moving east to west daily.
I think that's it, at least makes sense to me. So how long is the north to south transit?
Now have a teen actress
>>752520534
This, you either dont have a properly scaled flat map or its useless for orienteering
>>752520579
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Dunno about Leftists or w/e. Westboro isn't parody. they're just fucking insane retards like the rest of religious beleibers
>>752520579
Science (we can never know anything for sure, but the scientific method is a tool that can give us an understanding, a "map" of how the world works that is shaped by observation and so far has been the most successful system for predicting the results of any realistic situation)
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No, but close; We evolved from the same thing that monkeys evolved from.
Yes.
Depends on you definition of "leftist", but probably, yes.
>>752520649
I thought the firmament was a sphere enclosing the flat earth. It, and the stars fixed to it, rotated fully once every 24h, responsible for the day/night. Even if the sun disappeared, it would still be day, when the day side of the firmament was facing down from the top of Earth, because the light of day comes from heaven through the firmament. The sun was just a bright bulb to track the seasons. That's why even if a cloud went in front of the sun so you can't see it, it doesn't suddenly become night. Day doesn't come from the sun, but the firmament. The stars don't come out at night just because you blot out the sun with your thumb. But now that excuse doesn't fucking work because the air diffraction thing is bullshit. Anyways, the sun was on a track for the seasons, and it would go north and south and back again once a year. While rotating every day.
>>752520579
The Bible was not written by God, it was written by men who could only a limited understanding of God at the time.
I'm a minister, and I know not to take every phrase (especially English translations) to be literal.
To say that God only created this infinitesimally small earth and dome is to diminish His work and His power. The universe is vast, and His design so complex, but with a simple elegance at the same time.
We are just barely starting to comprehend any of this. To close your mind to the possibilities is to close your mind to the true power of God himself.
>>752520955
Thanks anon, it's been a very illuminating thread, sorry that your belief is now being challenged, but that's life. Hope you sort it out though
Have some teen actress cleavage
>>752520955
So why is a day measurably shorter by ~18 seconds near March 26th of each year, and ~21 seconds shorter around September 16th? Why is the length of each day in general getting longer?
>>752520177
>and not to make air curve light one way but not do it for optical cable just to fuck with me
Even IF the air did deflect light the way you describe, it still wouldn't explain the fact things pass over the horizon bottom first, it would just distort the shape of things a long distance away.
>>752521296
Oh no, of course God didn't create only this tiny dome. That's just where we live. He created the earth yes, but also all the heavens, which are infinite. If creating finite things diminished god, then he couldn't create anything finite, which would directly challenge his omnipotence. And also mean he can't make living people with bodies, since our bodies are finite.
I'm not taking the English literally because I feel it's a perfect translation. It's just the best I had. If I had original copies and could read them, I'd have been following them. I believe God gives credit for attempting your best to do what he delivers to you, and won't blame me for making some mistakes while obviously doing my best. I think he would be very upset if I read one passage, said, "Oh, well, that doesn't match what the WORLD says, I guess it's GOD who's wrong and I should use whatever interpretation matches what the GODLESS SCIENTISTS say."
>>752521450
You are correct. I am shaken by contradictions in my beliefs. Thank you for your help.
>>752512876
Even if, i still don't understand why would other planets be round, moon is round, then why out of all our earth is flat, how do you explain gravitation then, there is as much evidence of earth being flas as evidence denying it
>>752521296
God isn't real. My father's a minister, and he's actually an atheist (as is my entire family), but holy shit we are rich thanks to you dumb bible-thumping sad sacks of shit.
Oops never mind, we are actually very devout Christians!
>>752521803
See, it's things like this that make me wonder what people pretending to believe the Earth is round are up to.
>>752521676
You'd be surprised how many scientists are, at the very least, theists (believers in God). When you get into quantum physics and see how the world of the very small actually makes everything else in the universe work the way it does it makes it really hard to not believe in Him.
So I guess here's the million dollar question.
So if everything I've been taught is a lie --
How do I prove I'm in the Matrix, from inside the Matrix? Because you guys sound like conspiracy nuts to me, and I must sound like a conspiracy nut to you. You have reasons to promote science as your tool, and I have reasons to promote faith as mine. You have reasons to value what science says is true, and I have reasons to value what the Bible says is true, even in the face of you guys telling me science says otherwise.
So how do I climb out of Plato's Cave when all I can see or understand is a shadow of the stairs on the cave wall?
>>752513263
Oh look you think you are smart like dough degrasee. He's an arrogant fuck who thinks that prove the earth is round. It doesn't. That would assume the sun goes under the planet which it doesn't if the earth was flat. Oh pro tip, the earth is round. Simple mathematics can be used by measuring the shadow of a set height stick then calculating the circumference of the planet
>>752517850
Stargate was right!
>>752522648
Neil deGrase Tyson knows the world isn’t flat, he also says he’ll prove it to anyone that says otherwise.
>>752515282
You fucked up, retard.
If that's true, how come you can move around the Earth, and watch the same stars if the Earth is flat. Eventually you'd run out of Earth, but you don't, you can keep staying under the same stars by moving around the globe over and over
>>752517567
Funny thing. I actually have meteorite. Landed on my family property about a decade ago.
Common chondrite they called it. High in iron
>>752515228
friction and gravity doe
>>752512876
OP is right the Earth is flat. But OP's image implies that Earth is a flat circular disc which is bullshit that only a sheep would believe. The Earth is flat and square which is why the ancients always referred to "the four corners of the earth". That's right SQUARE, like a tile. Checkmate discfags.
Photographer here.
See the sky earth doesn't move. Only the "stars" move.
Earth is flat. All you guys never been to space, just because it's impossible.
Ok. Take the object nearest to you. Drop it. What happens? Good job you just witnessed gravity. What else could it be? The earth constantly moving upward? Wouldn't we feel a push downward then? And what is even propelling the earth?
>>752525032
How could you distinguish the two cases from that picture?
>>752513263
The sun and moon aren't round you retard. Those are flat too.
Snipers use the coriolis effect to hit their targets
>>752526624
Could be just the wind that blows it off course
>>752512876
That is some great bait m8 but I gotta hear your half assed explanation of the seasons we experience, volcanic activity, tectonic plate movement, and why cats don`t rule the world seeing how they like to push everything off of the edge of what ever they sit on.
>>752512876
U cant even prove the world exists anywhere outside your brain
Pretty much it !
>>752512876
Yeah, well... that's just like.... your opinion, man.
'Tards gonna tard.
>>752525032
Sattelites must just be a figment of our imaginations then, gps sure makes some pretty lucky guesses then too.
>>752512976
wrong image
>>752516410
That would cost like $20k
>>752515336
It would be pretty cool if there was a planet like this, half water half land. Somewhere out in space, in the vastness of it all, there could very well be one.Perhaps it would be stationary, facing the sun at the same angle for eternity. Who knows what terrible secrets the deep vast blackness of their immense oceans hold. Spooky.
>>752515594
If the earth is flat, then where do the moon coons (space niggers) come from?
>>752514665
It is called ''Azimuthal projection" and it's used by the United Nation because it can easily show all land forming the unity, hence its name. Baito desu more.
>>752515595
On the back of the four elephants, duh...
>>752529053
more importantly, azimuthal projection can be made from ANY point on the globe.
here is the reverse - an azimuthal projection from the south pole:
All of these are just ironic, right? Right?
>>752528498
This is by far the shittiest psyop ever
If the earth is flat why doesn't the ocean spill over the sides?
>>752512876
i will also bite because i love this argument. if the sun and moon are a spotlight effect. there would be no lunar eclipses. the moon cant go under the flat earth. if they are at the same level in the sky. how could the moon block the sun in a solar eclipse.
>>752525032
i suggest you go down to your local book store. pick up a copy of the english translated einstein's special theory of relativity. as a physics student i could kill myself with how hard i facepalm at this cringe shit
I'll end you, flat earther!
There are two Celestial Poles! Two points in the sky which the stars rotate around. One North, one South! A map of the stars proves the Earth is round! And that Earth rotates, etc.
All I ask is for a flat earth explanation for how the stars move. (The problem, I find, is that flat earthers seem to not know about the Southern Hemisphere stars. Honestly, if you live in the S. Hem. and are a flat earther, you're fucking dense! -for the simple reason that the prevailing FET holds Polaris as the only point of rotation for the stars, which goes against every observation.)
>>752532292
depending on what hemisphere they live in. they dont belive in the other. rule #35 of flat earther handbook
>>752532292
As an example; if you are on the Equator, the stars rise East, as we know, this doesn't change... look North and the stars rotate Anti-clockwise, but look South and they rotate Clockwise.
If you wrap your head around the stars and what we observe from all points on Earth, you will exorcise the deeeemon! of the flat earth, and can move on to more important mysteries...
>>752512876
Do people actually really believe this or are we being trolled. I'm genuinely curious to know whether people are really this stupid.
>>752512876
yo ass iz flat!
