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>>752428092
you call me a libtard and i'll shoot you in your fucking commie face
>>752428816
>Libertarian Socialist
Walking oxymoron
>>752428816
fuck off we are full
master race
>>752429438
>>752429505
My friends can I explain to you the power of money?
>>752428092
>>752428711
>>752429438
STATIST BOOTLICKERS GET OUT
>>752429642
Implying its not about working for the common society and keeping the correct cultural values safeguarded.
>>752429617
I understand the power of money.
That's why it should be controlled by the government. They are more trustworthy than private banking systems.
https://www.impartialtruth.com/jekyll-island-truth-behind-federal-reserve/
haters gonna hate
>>752431451
I don't hate you, I just think you should be deported.
>the only logical ideology enters the room...
Radical actions only lead to stupid results
>>752428711
great minds think alike, my friend.
>>752431870
Pic related: its You, killing your country and heritage because you were easily brainwashed by Jewish controlled media
>>752432749
why do you care so much about other people's lives?
if he'd really be like that - none of my business, as long as I get to live my life undisturbed
>start the quiz
>think carefully on each question
>after 2 minute I'm on question 5
>look at the top
>70 questions
Nope.
>>752432951
As you allow the fucking world around you burn? That will affect your life as well, y'know.
Just demolish islam and libertarians and all will be better. trust me. Im ok with trump as president.
Shitty test.
So many "depends" and neutral answers, holy moly
I'm probably slightly more authoritarian than this. My dream is a slightly authoritarian united Earth federal government, humans expanding into space, megacorporations running lots of stuff.
>Libertarian Socalism
What the fuck even is that. Regardless:
>Social
>Peaceful
>Liberal
>Progressive
Why would you not be those four things?
>>752429642
>nationalist
>anarchist
U wot m8
>>752434673
Shillary clitsucker
jk. but its true. Whats important tho is to keep and open mind and change your values based on the real world problems. Our modern main concern should be to force islam to reform. Otherwise we will all be converted or killed. which will halt humanities scientific progress.
>>752434673
>Trotskyism
>Liberty
lol wtf
>>752434849
>Religion
>Tradition
>Profit
>Nationalism
Just a few examples
>>752434954
Muh communism works in theory.
>>752433739
>at that rate it would take you less than half an hour
Nigga who are you, a soldier in Afghanistan? Why the fuck don’t you have 30 minutes of free time
>>752434998
>Religion
>Tradition
>Nationalism
LaughingWhores.jpg
I'll agree on the "profit" though. Fair enough.
>>752434526
You must be one of them "sane" people.
>>752434849
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism
Its a shame all of you have been brainwashed tho. thinking the liberal party or any such party thats ok with islam is a good, liberal socialistic thing.
>>752428092
Looks like im a centrist here. the test turned ut pretty representative.
>>752428816
Libtard.
>>752428816
>>752431451
>>752434923
>"Whats important tho is to keep and open mind and change your values based on the real world problems"
Well said pal
>>752435769
hello big brother.
I get this. Human beings are too retarded to control themselves, so they should pay others to control them. But this can easily spiral to paying for slavery.
Not a single belief is safe from human greed and brainwashing corruption. we should for humanities best, just start over.
Nice balance between liberty and authority
>>752434923
>Force Islam to reform
See that's where you're wrong kiddo. We gotta exterminate Islam from existence and burn down it's holy sites and erase it from the annuals of history.
>>752436036
Don't judge the religion itself, every religion is just stupidity, but the people and how they keep praticing it the way they do.
>>752436009
>neoliberal shill
>>752436036
would agree. But its not the peoples fault for being retarded. its the books and beliefs fault. but many muslims are figuring out that their religion doesnt belong in the world anymore. the irony tho is that their holy book forbids them from reforming.
Im predicting theres gonna be a religious war eventually. More and more are waking up everyday.
>>752429642
>>752429505
>>752429438
>>752428092
>muh traditions
all the traditions you hold dear are the results of progress from an earlier age
go back to pre1776
>>752436211
see
>>752436354
All religion should just dissipate.
>>752429642
>>752429505
>>752429438
>tradition
The only tradition we have in the US is inbreeding, jesus.
>>752436354
Never meant to say kill all the people just it need to not exist anymore but don't the jihad's they're doing now technically a religious war
>>752428092
>>752436521
America is the most diverse country in the world. Its basically made up of every colored human from around the world. Inbreeding there is still 100 times better than inbreeding in israel or afghanistan, even turkey.
>>752436693
If you can call it a war. its thinning of the herd. Its thanks to them people are looking into them for what they are. They failed the big sneak attack.
Bunch of fucking unpatriotic nationalist retards in this thread.
Learn to be a true American you fucking scum.
>>752432462
>>752432663
>>752434820
whut up doods?
>>752436948
Pride is a weakness. We are all human and should work to better each others lives. Not focus on ourselves forever.
>>752436211
Have you ever read what's in their "holy book"
Where the fuck are my Libertarians at?
>>752437118
if you think pride is a weakness and you're a nationalist you're not only an idiot, but also illiterate.
>>752434820
Baby steps bro. We are hundreds of generations before that can happen. the way it looks right now.
>>752429025
>Not understanding what libertarian or socialist means
>>752428092
>>752437227
im not a nationalist.
>>752429025
It usually means economically authoritarian and socially libertarian
>>752436457
>>752436457 (you)
>>752436948
If you think a nationalist = unpatriotic, you're not only an idiot, but also illiterate.
>>752436495
That wouldn't work. People will always look up to a deity. What needs to happen is to take only the moral and least retarded parts of the religions and ingrain into a culture
>>752437155
Have you ever read what is in the jewish tora or even the bible itself?
>>752429642
Almost right
Oddly more Liberal than I expected. Extremely Pro-Gun, think we should be careful with international aid and immigration.
>>752437326
I'm sorry patriot, I assumed anyone replying to me would be a social retard who embraced hard right politic to blame the left over themselves for not ever touching a vagina.
>>752435592
Same, very centrist. I see myself as very moderate anyways so this is fine
>>752437525
Good except you need about 20% more green
>>752437580
forgot pic
>>752437514
Jews are pretty fucked lmao but if you let talking old testament most of the shit in that one was replaced with shit in the new not all of it I think but most. And i don't think either of them demand genocide on non believers either
>>752437457
The amount of Christians decreasing the last 100 years coinciding with technological progress is a testament to intelligence overcoming superstition. Now if only the mudskins and street shitters can catch up.
>>752437595
He needs atleast 50% more green on Economy, you commie bastard
>>752437730
I actually agree but I don’t think you should try and change peoples ideology drastically. You slightly nudge them in your direction over time.
>>752437595
I'm fine with Traditions that are proven to work and can adapt to different eras. Just because muh daddy washed his windows with vinegar doesn't mean it's the only way we should do it.
Well close. Im a socialist
>>752437454
Nationalism is unwavering obedience to your government and it's actions.
Patriotism is pride in the country.
Bitch I got quotes for days from people smarter than you or I.
inb4 original thought.
Nothing is original, everything is derivative in art as well as thought.
Ok...
>>752437551
Im not a patriot either. But patriotism is better than being forced to change traditions from immigrants. Its all about the bigger problems.
>>752437860
Oh no I meant economic green, I forgot traditions was also green. Imo I’d even add 5% more purple.
>>752437730
Why? Is this one of those Free Market things?
>>752437953
I can meld with that. Big picture and all.
>>752437933
>not the other guy
I’m a patriot because I’m loyal to the ideals of the American/Western Experiment. If those ideals get abandoned, I will no longer have pride in my country.
>>752437707
I can kinda agree with that. But I think the only reason why it's hitting christrans more is because it's impacted Europeans and the west more than any other religion. And also shitskin are just retarded in general.
>>752437933
To me they might as well mean the same things. But i guess i am more patriotic. governments should be held accountable as if they were citizens themselves.
>>752438013
Yes. The free market in almost every case has created more upward economic mobility for more individuals than any other system across the globe.
>>752437676
The problem is that modern reforming politicians which stood for decreasing the importance of religion in political and social life, to make it more a private thing, were forcfully dismissed and killed in iraq, iran, lybia and this western intervening and the fact that the majority of todays victims are still civilians, result in a social orientation to radical speectrums. In eastern regions the religion (islam) for example.
>>752438013
Yes, thats exactly what it is.
>>752437806
Makes sense, might take that to heart when talking to people about this in the future. I guess people are more likely to change their minds when they are nudged instead of pushed.
>>752438318
Yeah if you are ramming your ideas down their throats they just reject it and fight you. Act like you’re on their side, but disagree about one thing in particular, and see if you can shift them on that. Then do that again but with a different thing, and change their mind piece by piece. Also don’t be afraid to have to agree to disagree sometimes, as on occasion the foundational beliefs you hold may differ.
>>752438171
Technological advances have happened with increased wellfare. More accessable food, increasing survivability, longer life spans. and less focus on religious beliefs. All this started with the amazingly hard work americans and europeans put in to enrich their lives. Its a shame not all countries worldwide followed americas example to hard work overcoming problems. Its a shame tho the jews infiltrated and leech. they causing all sorts of shit to secure their future.
Right-Wing Populism up in this shit
>>752438736
For example, my father and I disagree on the role of government. I believe it is to protect me from you and you from me, such that we do not harm each other. He believes that government exists to help those that can’t help themselves. Because of this differing world view, we naturally have to agree to disagree on some things, but there is no resentment that comes from that.
Neo-Conservatism
Didn't use to think this way until I realized the JEWS are trying to kill my people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90kmUbEv7c
>>752438318
Thats what america attains to. Started out with a bunch of migrants, different cultures and traditions. eventually they all merged creating something that benifits mankind. The problems of today tho is that already deeply rooted values and traditions cause conflict when immigrants are being forced to assimilate. It takes dozens and dozens of generations for any real noticable change. The niggers in america tho are victims of corrupt libertarians making them depandant on welfare for the votes.
about what I expected
>>752438977
There are plenty of people that think like this of all races, including other white people. I also know plenty of Jews that don’t give a shit about skin colour. Not all people of a race think alike, so the problem is not the race of people that think this way, but the threatening idea itself, which should be debated and refuted.
>>752439203
I like what I’m seeing.
What do you think?
>>752438243
>>752438318
Alright let's start on that. What is your evidence that the Free Market model is the optimal policy? Can it adapt to economic crisis reliably? Are there countries that have adopted today or in the past which you could point to?
My biggest suspicion is this prime focus on business for the sake of business mentality. Okay, record profits, job numbers are good on paper, but the employees, customers, and environment are fucked in the process.
>>752439283
Just flip the top bar and you’re good.
>>752438977
Most of the questions were jew questions.
Are you buying our bullshit about Climate change? They marked me as traditional for that. But I am actually strongly for progress just not their kike progress of insane carbon taxes and integrating a bunch of filthy niggers into our country. I'm racist, but at least I'm not a homophobe? Pro tip. Racism is a good thing it means you are paying attention. If you think there are no cognitive differences between races then you are the nigger
>>752439348
The workers shall seize the means of production.
GLORY GREATEST COUNTRY!
>>752439348
Not everyone can be equal. Shouldnt have to have a lesser quality of life because of it.
>>752439327
Singapore is an excellent example of a nation that “pulled itself up by the bootstraps”. Their standard of living as increased and more people are in the middle-class and upper-middle-class than ever before. Also on your point of economic crisises, the worst days for capitalism (The Great Depression, recessions in the 70s/80s and in 2008) are still better for most people than an average day in an authoritarian state.
>>752428711
>>752438890
My Populism is better
hate me
>>752439272
Implying kike is a race. It's only a race because they are racist. It's a religion and a god damn awful religion at that. Worshiping a dude crazy enough to attempt to kill his own son. The filthy kikes actions speak louder than words. He's still a proffessor at harvard. I know your religion instructs you to lie to save face, but don't think for a second I'm not on to you. And yes there are some good jews out there. The sad thing is the bad jews kill or intimidate all the good jews. fucking zionists. Yet even still I'd rather have kikes ruling the world than sand niggers. At least kikes have some brain power. Just they are too stupid to realize that kiling your only natural intellectual competition and spreading 3rd world filth isn't a good long term strategy. White people and jews could concur the galaxy. Jews need whites because we are the innovators. You are the slave drivers.
>>752439537
What socialism does is stagnates the economy, preventing growth, then redistributes everything, which results not in everyone being equally Middle or upper class, but equally poor. If you’d prefer a world where everyone is equal because they’re all shooting dogs in the street to survive, than a world with less equality but the beggar can go get a cheeseburger because a wealthy person gave them charity, then by all means.
>>752439400
The IQ differances are based on hundreds of years of different schooling. the niggers will eventually catch up, as long as the libertarian party is stopped in handicapping them. same with any group oppressing another. just kill islam, kill corruption. then after kill all religion. would make the world a paradise for everyone willing to bleed and sweat a little for their daily bread.
>>752439283
>>752439739
Greetings fellow brother.
>>752428092
shouldn't it be equality vs authority and liberty vs markets?
>>752439400
Wow, i must be the bleakest nigger of them all
>>752439203
i want to die, ama
>>752439794
I’m an atheist and a white guy, and I disagree with you, which means you just lent uptmost credence to the idea I was stating, that not all people of a race (or if Jews aren’t a race, then a social group) think alike.
>>752439825
You know how much food and resources is thrown away yearly?
I dont think socialism is perfect. but its a price worth paying for freedom.
>>752439348
flipped it but I think the only difference is, that it is harder to read.
>>752440095
You didn’t refute any of my points, you just brought up an anti capitalist talking point. If we’re going to through away that much food, the food has to exist in the first place. Socialism creates no incentive to even grow the food to begin with.
>>752439839
It's genetics you nigger. Same basic principal as why golden retrievers are much smarter than weenier dogs. Myths and fables about oppression and equality are bullshit. There is a statically proven variance. Race mixing dumbs down the population genetically
>>752440002
rate me, debate me, please kill me i'm a centrist i want to fucking die
>>752440222
No you only needed to flip the top bar, everything else was perfect!
>>752440306
You need more Liberty and Free Market Capitalism, but otherwise you’re right where you should be
Rate me
>>752440056
are you one of those I'm a white guy until it's time to be jewish"and therefore cast away my racial identity and supplant it with an artifical construct of (Jewry)"? or actually a white guy. Anyways jews are winning because they have conned and convinced us about their lies. that's why they make these subjects so taboo to disagree with them. holohoax, climate change, global governance. Just because you are buying jew lies doesn't mean you are right. There is a lot of agreement and consensus among st groups. You are trying to make a point that he is on the fringe. I STRONGLY disagree with that.
>>752440806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk25AeFWMNs
About what I expected.
>>752440806
I don’t think of myself as white at all, because it doesn’t matter. I’m an individual and I think of all other people as individuals too. I don’t care about protecting “white identity” because I think it’s foolish to join a group think because of your skin colour. I care about what individual people believe. If you believe something evil, I dislike you, but not all Jews believe something evil, and not all white people believe only good things. I don’t think of people in racial blocs.
>>752441621
Looking good
>>752440750
Not authoritarian so your good
>>752439794
>>752440267
>>752440806
Even if trolling, there's definitely pricks like this IRL. The saddest part of it all that it would be just another edgy trend if it wasn't so goddamn boring. Why do you find this fascinating, let alone nurture the impulse to sperg out on it?
>>752437521
80% Authoritarian please jump off a bridge
#letgarydebate
>>752440750
Oof you’ve got the right views in the first and third columns, which is where it counts the most.
>>752441905
I don’t understand how people can still indulge in the idea of racial group think this heavily. It happens on the left too with them calling black people “Uncle Toms” and “coons” for not agreeing with them, which is so disgustingly racist. People need to think for themselves, they’re not just an identity. Intersectionality is despicable.
>>752442185
The perfect belief system
>I’m kidding but it’s the best we’ve got
All of these "facism is a good thing" faggots need to go back to r/the_donald
>>752432749
t. someone tricked by the jews into caring about "his" country and heritage so as to distract him from how badly he is, as an individual, getting fucked in the ass
>>752429642
>inb4 ancap picardía
>>752437521
>79.2% authoritarian
I can already smell your neck beard from here
>>752437389
i wouldn't expect these fags to know that
>>752437454
obedience is patriotism, you're right
and that's why you're a fucking moron
>>752442658
Yeah when you’re above 60% Authoritarian you usually end up being the “I like what I think, what I think is the way it should be” people
>>752439327
Dont confuse the free market with capitalisim.
The free market is it own economic concept. Singapore had a free market socialist economic policy.
Germany has always had free market socialism known as rhinebach economic model.
capitilisim =/= free market
socialisim =/= free market
Americas current capital markets are far from a 'free market'.
The market isnt free when the wealth is pooled in the hands of the few.
>>752442663
I don’t agree with libertarian socialism, but yeah at least I understand what it means.
Evolved from ancapist to libertarian
I'm proud of myself
>>752441740
>I’m an atheist and a white guy
>I don’t think of myself as white at all
Kike detected.
Appeals for aboloshing racial unit cohesion between races.(except for isreal tho) kek That's what stopped the native americans from being slaves UNIT COHESION. Not because they didn't try. But because there were bonds that the slave drivers could not break. It's ironic that their ancestors offspring are now wage slaves crossing the southern boarder calling themselves Hispanic.
>>752442185
the US failed when it let ron paul slip through two presidential elections completely unnoticed while donald trump rode notoriety as a celebrity buffoon straight into the white house
>>752442243
Makes it easier to categorize and identify political opponents, giving you endless ammo to keep feeding the narrative you espouse, the idea the work is never done.
This is what is probably particularly juicy about antisemitism. A vast elaborate plot spanning many decades, even centuries, embodied in various dynasties of Jewry. The most simple question to ask is how exactly can a group of Jews maintain a coherent conspiracy that they always unanimously adhere to? There's 100 senators in our congress, and I'll bet money you couldn't get a 100% vote in favor of the sky being blue.
>>752442825
The most extreme form of capitalism is the complete free market. We shouldn’t go that far because then we abandon all morality and sell our children as sex slaves to buy intestines of the Internet, but generally “the freer the markets the freer the people” is true
>>752442898
>Welcome to Libertarianism, we know it’s been a long journey from the Ancap shitshow. Take a seat, or don’t, we don’t give a fuck what you do.
>>752439327
Socialisim, capitialism, nationalisim are all unique approaches to economic management.
They are human interference in the free market. We need these because humans are inherently bad at understanding the repercussions of our actions.
'capitalist' = 'we will control the free market through individuals private equity because they know what best to do with their money'
'socialist' = 'we will control the free market to benefit society even at the expense of the wealthy few'
'nationalist' = we will control the free market to benefit the county even at the expense of the wealthy and society'
>>752442825
>clinton and trump in the same tiny box
WOKE
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>>752441235
All these www.theycant
fags won't comment on this video because the information is too damning and non debatable. The jews in the videos claim to fight against whiteness. The people in the threads claim to be white, then claim to not be white when i question them on the issue a second time.
>>752442948
Yes I do want to abolish racial unit cohesion. We should join groups based on ideas. As for the slave traders, those people were evil anti-individualists, and if that kind of movement arose again, i would fight it alongside people of any race, because it’s an ideology that is evil, not a social or racial group.
>>752442976
Yes sorry I understand why it happens. I should correct myself and say that I’m appalled by it and want to spend my life fighting against it.
>>752443182
I'll take a seat, thank you
>>752443019
inncorrect
Capitalism is the distribution of wealth by the choice of individuals who control that wealth.
A free market is the ability to trade goods and services with zero interference.
A free market is a seperate construct to capitalism. it can exist without capitilisim.
An example is a 'black' market for guns trade in north korea. This is a free market. It exists regardless of what controls nay individual trys to put on it.
if a human wants to do something, and someone wants to supply, the free market exists.
Capitalism is just a form of 'how we interact with the free market it is a way to control humans. nothing more or less.
>>752443206
The difference is capitalism les the individual decide, where as nationalism and socialism put that decision in the hands of the government, taking the choice away from the individual.
is killing all niggers an option?
>>752443337
I’m white physically, but it doesn’t have a bearing on the way I act. My ideology does that.
>>752443355
notice how he doesn't even try deny the kike label
Theyknow.jpg Slavery and industrialism go hand in hand retard. South was raw materials. North was finished goods. If slavery would have been as beneficial up north they would have done it there too. I know more about your culture than you do
>>752443526
Yes. If I choose to distribute the wealth I earn, by buying goods and services I choose to acquire, then it is both capitalism and the free market.
>>752443355
Starts off that guy is evil and the exception. Ends up saying yup I'm one of them. Kikes gonna kike. Your jew dollar is collapsing. Is that why you are trying to take back net neutrality? So you can claim bitcoin at the ISP level?
>>752443019
>but generally “the freer the markets the freer the people” is true
generally, I don't even disagree. But generalizations are less than useless when deciding on a specific policy for a specific situation or market sector.
>>752443553
capitalism puts the choice in your hands IF you have the economic resources to make the choice.
Socialisim and nationalism arnt gaurnteed to take away your choice.
Freedom of individual choice = libertarian. Its not an economic policy.
Government control =/= socialisim.
A socialist democracy aims to make every person worth something, countries like germany, sweden, australia, japan, korea, taiwan, (around 115 countries world wide) are socialist democracies who base their economy on free market concepts.
>>752443738
>If slavery would have been as beneficial up north they would have done it there too.
I don’t disagree with you on this, but that’s much more a problem with villainous human morality. I don’t see how it’s supposed to convince me to stop thinking as an individual and to start thinking as a racial bloc.
>>752443808
buying goods and services with the resources you have is called 'trade'.
Capitalism is the process of building the economic networks required to services your demands for goods and services.
>>752443850
I have white skin, but I don’t care about it. I stand beside people I agree with, I ignore their skin colour also. It seems you don’t believe that an individual can stand with another individual even if they have differing heritage. Why do you believe that?
>>752428092
>>752443891
Yeah, that’s why regulations on the market are sometimes necessary. I’m just of the school of thought that the amount of these regulations should be minimal. I don’t think we actually disagree a whole lot.
>>752444019
(I’m an atheist and a white guy, and I disagree with you,) hey remember that time you tried to blend in and call yourself a white guy then pretend like you aren't white because you abandoned your identity. This is the subversion tactic. Trying to blend in among st us and sway our opinion from within. These types are really good at manipulation and social control. They aren't so good at inventing, creativity, and science.
>>752442959
completely agreed /b/ro
>>752440404
kys commie
>>752436457
Modernist culture has led to decay of the family unit.
bring the power to the people
>>752443992
I’m afforded the choice if I work collaboratively with others (by trading or providing my labour) to make the world better. Not everyone who has money acquired their wealth by doing this though. These people are corrupt, and should be incarcerated, but some people are rich because they worked hard, made a product people bought, and now live well. Why would we punish them for that?
>>752444230
Lol jew logic. I will freely associate with other races. How-ever as a male that is my privilege. Females should not do that. Next thing you know jamal is giving her weed and having mulattos *mud bloods* with her
Seeing all the leftist libtards in this thread made me lose what little hope I had left in /b/
>>752444584
Seeing all the conservitards made me lose hope.
>>752443337
I'm white.
But I don't give a fuck about being white. It is moronic to take pride in an accident of birth in the same way that it's moronic to entrust a monarch with absolute lifelong power to rule simply because he was born into a royal family.
If you want to be "proud of being white", (OR "black", or "jewish", or whatever), well, go right ahead. I'm not going to tell you what you can and cannot do. Just know that your ideology rests on the same basis as that of the retards from BLM et al.
don't fite me irl
Degent Moderate
>>752443615
kill yourself and maybe it will catch on.
>>752444340
You’re trying to make it look like you’re psychoanalysing my character, as if I’m some kind of villainous actor in a conspiracy. Im just a guy who likes to discuss ideas with other human beings. I don’t think of people as different to me just because of heritage, I think of them as different when they believe in things that differ from my own views.
>Also the number of times you’ve used ad hominem in this discussion is pretty appalling in itself
>>752429025
Nope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfKrI6Q_W8
Surprisingly, muh libertarian party didn't create the word "libertarian" and collectivists didn't create the word "socialism"
![19789999[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x1FwU3t.jpg "19789999[1].jpg")
>>752443850
>Is that why you are trying to take back net neutrality? So you can claim bitcoin at the ISP level?
confirmed for total ignorance of both net neutrality and how bitcoins work
>>752444665
Do you trust spiders? Do you trust Snakes? Do you trust cute little puppies? Lol this nigger is claiming genetics has a hard boundary at humanity. Get fucked by science retard. I'm not saying all white people are perfect. I'm saying stastically we are smarter and that breeding with dumber races is a sure way to stupify a populace. Which a stupid populace is only good for slavery. Which is what the kikes want
>>752444683
oh good moar SJWs
>>752444895
retard at it again tarding things up. Net neutrality mandates that ISP's can not play god with how the distribute the interent. Without it they can block or slow down things they don't like
>>752444550
>I will freely associate with other races
This is Jew logic? It appears to me to be the logic of someone who associates with other individuals because it is illogical to assume that 100% of the time, and individuals world view is entirely shaped by characteristics that they are born with.
>>752444910
i love how most of this thread is just people throwing out regurgitated insults instead of reasonable questions. as a neckbeard, i'll call it the bad thought terminating cliches. fucking libtards, fucking conservatards, fucking SJWs, fucking alt right
>inb4 looking for discussion on b
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>>752444683
These people have got the right thinking.
>>752444665
Hey, another rational individualist. Awesome!
>>752444905
I fear snakes and spiders because they do not follow the rules of man, the laws established by our governments. Some individual human beings also do not follow these rules, and I fear them also, but these are people of all races.
>>752444513
What you express is a socialist view, that a hard working individual should reap a social reward and not be punished by society.
And that a person who doesn't earn their wealth in a society is not worthy of their wealth.
There is nothing wrong or right about this point of view - however it is not an economic point of view, its a political one.
Capitalism allows those people you dislike, those who steal, inherit and deceive for their money to retain it.
So does communisim.
The only tool that you have to control that is your government (your society) and the laws you put in place.
Otherwise its pick up a stick son and go kill that fucker.
>>752439739
>dangerously close to anarcho-communism
Stop
>>752445146
see the other threads going on here or did your bias take you straight to the 'hurrrrrr' thread.
not sure what to think about this
pretty accurate
>>752445146
I only respond in kind. From what I have seen most of the time it's someone on the right throwing around the word commie or libtard.
>>752445529
this is basically amurica
>>752445304
Well it’s not socialist to put light regulations on the economy. I don’t hate government, I just think economy’s work best when it’s influence on them is minimised, though it still should be there, especially to prevent things such as fraud for example.
Also you said I dislike people who “steal, inherit and deceive” for money. I don’t have a problem with those who inherit, because if an individual worked so that their children or loved ones could have more choices, I see no problem with that.
>>752444873
The Libertarian Party co-opted the word libertarian after "liberal" was co-opted in America by FDR, because the word "socialist" was highly unpopular in America. He had to call his policies something, so he just continued calling it liberalism even though it wasn't.
In France the Socialist Party is the center-left party. In the UK the Labour Party is the center-left party. No one cares about this shit in Europe, because they never had a red scare. The Democratic Party here should be called the Socialist Party or the Labor Party, because that's really what it is.
Unfortunately for the Libertarian Party, "liberal" has become connotated with "leftist." If it called itself the Liberal Party people would just be even more confused.
Besides, anarchists hadn't been using the word libertarian for roughly 100 years anyway.
>>752445427
i just mentally skipped any of the posts that devolved into "tard" or anything with "jew" or "nigger"
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but in that scrolling, there are a few actually reasonable posts, so you're right i missed some
>>752442825
where does alt-right fit in this pic?
>>752445871
As a libertarian/“classical liberal” this is why I just stick to the former term rather than the latter. Because of the way the terms have changed, is easier to just say you’re libertarian.
>>752446025
Top Right corner.
>>752446133
Is alt right really that authoritarian? They can't stop talking about freedums. Same thing with hillary/trump box. Not so free after al huh
>>752446384
Richard Spencer, who coined the term alt right, wants to create an ethnostate for white people. If you want to make a place that only white people can live in, then you will have to take authoritarian measures to achieve that.
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>>752439739
no hate, just pity.
i feel sorry for weak, entitled losers who don't know anything about history, politics, or economics.
enjoy your womyn's lit degree and a lifetime of eating ramen noodles.
>>752446535
That's true.
Does Richard Spencer actually want to get rid of all minorities? Sounds more like nazi fascism
>>752437169
Right here
>>752446384
On the 8values axis, the reason they think they're somehow in favor of "freedom" is because "freedom" for them conflates with "tradition." It is highly traditional in the American lexicon to be in favor of "freedom" as some sort of abstract concept, even if you don't understand or analyze at all what it means.
This is why they are authoritarian on the liberty/authority axis and traditional on the tradition/progress axis.
>>752444905
>he's still banking on "winning" the gene game when we're balls deep into the meme game
Progress doesn't happen on a genetic level anymore. The type of genius that creates breakthroughs that drive civilization forward are not genetically preordained. Few of the world renowned scientists and other great thinkers were beget of a lineage of geniuses. They pop out of normal people and excel because they made a *conscious effort* to do something. I'd even concede that most of these people are white or asian (and also disproportionally jewish), but that is due to simple genetic PREdisposition. You can claim all you want that being white makes you genetically predisposed to greatness, but it means fuck all when all you do with your time is spam shitty racist memes and conspiracy theories on an anime imageboard. You claim to want to prevent the stupification of your people while actively participating in it.
How can opinions be wrong? Stupid nigger site
>>752445768
It is socialist if you put regulations on the economy to BENEFIT society.
socialism is the government theory that a society should benefit from the work, labour and wealth of society.
Libertarian is the governmental theory that all individuals should be allowed to make their own choices with no interference from anyone else.
clarification for 'inherit' can also be from the labour of others.
theft is often hidden in inheritance. People who have a lot of money often 'inherited' it from someone who took it from people who worked hard for it.
again, if you work hard for it and 'earned' it, be it to pass onto your children or not is a socialist mindset.
That you have the right to hand it on to your children is also a socialist mindset - that others in society benefit from your work and so do you.
government = the structure by which a society is governed.
To govern = rules and normal behaviors individuals of a society uphold.
wanting to pass your shit on to your kids, is a normal behavior and is part of how you YOU specifically want to govern your society.
Nothing wrong with that lad. Nothing wrong at all.
>>752445462
You believe in restraining capitalism through regulations and redistributing the fruits of the system to less fortunate through social programmes. You believe in a big governemnt where necessary but you support the dismantling of the ties between corporations and government in an effort to keep corporations from being too powerful.
You are against unnecessary warfare and neocolonialist conquests. I would guess you are against the military industrial complex.
Just some guesses.
What country are you from? Who and what party do you vote for?
>>752446815
>it is my opinion that the sky is green
>the sky is actually blue
I give you, sir, a wrong opinion.
so many cucks on here omfg
GROW UP GUYS
>>752446018
need to work on your retard filter.
5 years here and now I don't even recognize the faggot.
Only ever op. Op is always a faggot.
>>752446815
I assume morally wrong
>>752446997
>GROW UP GUYS
literally the only people i know that are this extreme are like 19 year old virgins with a chip on their shoulder from not being laid.
>>752446997
>Wanting to limit liberty
>Not wanting to redistribute wealth to the bottom when it naturally travels up.
you're selfish
>>752446018
you need to realize that on 4chan "nigger," "faggot," "retard," etc. can be merely colloquialisms for "fellow," "sir," etc.
>>752444584
any hope you had was severely misguided and pretty much proves you don't know fuck all about /b/ beyond the recent uptick in underage shitposters from r/the_donald. Historically, /b/ has been absolutely libertarian, left-leaning if anything, but most of all fairly apolitical up until about a year or two ago.
>>752446917
I agree with all those statements. I'm from the Netherlands and vote different every time, but always leftist parties. Not the most extreme leftist parties because their ideas are too hardcore and will never happen anway.
>>752446997
Says the Nationalist Capitalist, you know those two are opposites, right? It's the Liberals who want to import Cheap labour.
>>752447281
Are your 'left-wing' parties in bed with corporations?
>>752446018
Hahahahahaha.
>>752446628
He wants to have a place where there aren’t those minorities. It’s unclesr whether he wants that place to be the entire United States or not.
>>752446997
what if fascism sees black jews as the ubermensch. enjoy your trip to the concentrationcamp
As I expected
>>752447200
so what? gotta be selfish to be successful.
Don't listen to Cuckerberg or Jobs or any of those lying faggots
>>752445462
You give a shit about your society.
You dont want to see it fucked up
You think people should be treated by thwir worth and their need.
You want to own a gun. You dont want to use it on anyone unless your life is threatened.
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>>752447434
Not really. Of course lobbyist have their influence on any political party but not as much as the right-wingers.
For example, the right-wing/christian government are going to cut divident-taxes because it would cause 'more jobs', although those taxes are already lower than most neighboring countries. It's obvious big companies like Shell made this happen.
'My' left wing parties would never let that happen, at least that's what I think/hope.
>>752447971
True, except I don't want anyone but cops and soldiers to handle guns. But that's just me being not an american probably
>>752428092
Keep in mind any result other than progressivism men's you're mentally retarded
>>752448522
>men's
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>>752448522
Did you just assume my gender?
>>752447819
There is nothing wrong with success, but with wealth and power there is an inherent greater responsibility to give back. When you make profit off the back of workers you should pay the a fair living wage if possible. You should pay taxes to see that your work force educated, and has a good standard of living. It's a question of morals.
Basically you shouldn't cash out where you aren't willing pay in.
This is particularly why the collectivism and togetherness of racially homogeneous states is apt for economic leftism.
>>752448242
How are you on immigration?
Oops
Gee, I thought I'd be in the minority, much less in the majority here... fascist shitposters be busy.
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>>752449288
Libertarian Socialism vs Social Libertarianism?
wat?
>>752447236
thank you
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>>752448734
>Retarded enough not to understand it's a phone typo
>>752448956
this is what's wrong with out country
>>752448351
8/10 you are a decent human.
>>752449440
One focuses more on liberty while the other focuses more on socialism
Just a guess based on the percentages
>>752449519
looks more like a fraudian slip, eh, fruit boy?
>>752428092
Anything dissimilar is degeneracy
>>752449440
looks like i'm slightly further left on economics, but yeah these political belief naming systems are garbage
>>752449519
>retarded enough to use autocorrect
Brainlet.
>>752428092
Centrist
All others must be euthanized
>>752450133
Neo-lib
How can people genuinely think this is good?
I at least hope your not like those corporate warhawks in mainstream american politics.
Are you?
I never saw myself as any kind of liberal...but my definition of liberal is clouded methinks..
the truest of alignments
>>752450505
Why should the government force people to buy health insurance? Car insurance?
What right does the government have to control how we spend our money?
A company can’t force you to buy something and fine you for not buying it. The government can.
waddya reckon?
All these socialists... They believe in taking money away from those wealthier than them so they can buy nice socks.
>>752451334
Fuck you, I want nice socks too.
>>752450981
>Why should the government force people to buy health insurance?
obamacare is the epitome of why business should not be able to influence politics, not an argument against publicly funded healthcare. The only way nationalized healthcare could be passed through the cesspool that is the united states political arena is if there was something bigger in it for the people pulling the strings. Thus, instead of a single-payer system or even just a government-subsidized account that can be drawn on to pay bills for people who can't afford their medical bills, we got a government-mandated version of the existing insurance-based healthcare system.
>>752450981
Government should provide free healthcare instead.
>>752451334
Taking money from the highest earners to invest infrastructure and education and healthcare. An uneducated population makes for a weaker workforce. An unhealthy population makes for a weaker workforce.
Just understand without taxes and social programs there is no middle class and no social mobility.
>>752451884
I don’t believe that taxes are inherently bad. But taking more money away from the wealthy penalizes the wealthy for being successful. The only reason taking more money away from them is some sort of righteous feeling of morality.
>>752452133
Believing that there is every only one reason to anything done in practice is folly.
>>752452452
>every
>ever
Not really sure what this means
Apparently I'm a liberal now
Master race
>>752451334
I demand the finest of socks. But I shan't pay!
>>752452133
You have the moral high-ground but taxes are neeeded to run a country. Also the rich are literally getting richer, avoiding taxes. Wages have stagnated. They continually dip their hand in the legislation pot in order to tilt tables in their favor. Some of them at least.
>>752450858
This is conservative. Their classifications are retarded.
>>752452835
Or perhaps you always were and you thought you weren't because excessive shitposting from people with even smaller minds convinced you that "liberal" was synonymous with "zionist, patriarchy-smashing, whale-sized, electrodynamic-poly-genderfluid desmosexual femme-communist" when in fact it just means "someone who values personal liberty"
"libertarian" and "liberal" share the same root word
>>752453149
Most of the current US democratic party fits under "neo-liberal," and their views are in line with the hard conservative parties of the rest of the world. It's just that the US republican party has jumped so far off the cliff that "slightly right of center" appears to be "left" by comparison.
fite me
