I would not hesitate to burn this outdated shit
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
I would not hesitate to burn this outdated shit
bump for butt-hurt rednecks
it all ready has been
>>752236126
horse-shit
>>752235684
>>752235684
If you're American kys if not still kys
>>752236282
That's just a rifle. They weren't called "assault" rifles until they became full auto. Retard
>>752235684
Our Constitution is the greatest example of liberty on earth.
>>752236503
Don't you know libtrads use the term to mean anything that looks scary? ar15 isn't full auto but the libshits still call them "assault" rifles, I'm just using their own terms.
>>752236399
Ever heard of North Korea? those wars are dated. You won't even see the drone that strikes your retarded untrained ass. Actually you might, because the children in Afghanistan fear blue skies. Because drones have to fly on clear days, so they can easily target them.
>>752236651
I had no idea actually I just made that up to shitpost
>>752236506
The American Constitution is an outdated piece of crap that brain-dead Yanks cling onto in the face of everything that is sensible or logical. As for being an example of freedom - well, freedom for who? It sure as hell didn't provide freedom or the right to vote for the majority of people in the US (i.e. women, non-whites, etc.).
>>752235684
"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
>>752236282
That is not why we revolted and you should know that. That gun took 2 minutes to load a shot that would probably miss.
>>752236399
Your guns won't do shit towards the real problem, which are crazy assholes who sit in the 30th floor of a casino and fire on a massive crowd 500 feet away.
>>752235684
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive. " - Noah Webster
>>752235684
"no other way to preserve my own Life from his violence but by taking his, there, I have an indisputable right to do it, and should be justified in warding thro’ the blood of an whole army, if I had power to shed it" - John Adams
Sure sounds like he's talking about a high capacity rifle or cannon. Here is the actual document if you want to check that quote from John Adams https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/06-01-02-0045-0009
>>752236836
You can't seriously say that that time or what a militia was 200 years ago has any bearing on what they look like now.
If you believe everyone shhould be equipped to fight off a tyrannical government in 2017, start advocating for the citizens right to own tanks and make yourself look like the massive tool you are
>>752236892
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."- Thomas Jefferson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jqpG9A---U
>>752237200
We do own and have a right to own tanks, you're an idiot.
>>752237161
>>752237229
>>752237034
>Says the constitution is outdated
>gets replies literally confirming this
>>752237161
So you think John adams could see into the future? Or that he expected not to win the war without a militia
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."- Thomas Jefferson
>>752237390
Yes, tanks that are lubriciously expensive and outdated and likely not in service. Tanks that wouldn't do shit up against the M1
>>752237403
They had cannons and old repeating gatling gun like weapons and yes citizens owned them including warships that the government would rent from the individual, the fact that we have the inherent right is why they can't stop us from buying tanks or cannons or machine guns as long as we have the money and can pass the background checks.
There should be no compromise with our rights, the right to bear arms is an inherent constitutional right not a privilege like driving, it's not up for a vote.
>>752237539
>>752235684
"Resistance to sudden violence, for the preservation not only of my person, my limbs and life, but of my property, is an indisputable right of nature which I have never surrendered to the public by the compact of society, and which perhaps, I could not surrender if I would. Nor is there anything in the common law of England ... inconsistent with that right." - John Adams
>>752237403
All of those replies are just as valid today as they were 300 years ago.
>>752235684
>>752235684
STFU you fuckin coward nigger
>>752237986
>There should be no compromise with our rights, the right to bear arms is an inherent constitutional right not a privilege like driving, it's not up for a vote.
>it's not up for a vote.
>vote
You think our founding fathers would have no issue with that?
Ever heard of the patriot act?
Or how our government literally gives 0 fucks about the constitution, and some un-trained redneck with an AR-15 won't do shit against that. Just some shit against our own civilians and children.
>>752235684
Fuck communist scum
>>752238447
>300 years ago
>war is the same
K
>>752238675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jqpG9A---U
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."- Thomas Jefferson
Look at that shit, it actually starts with
>Weithe people
You sick white fucks
TO BE CLEAR. I'm not exactly saying it should be abolished. I'm saying we should have smarter laws, better background checks, mental health screenings.
If you don't see a problem when a man can own 10 guns legally that mimic AR firing rates, then use those to kill 50 and maim aalmost 600, I can't have a serious conversation with you
>>752238692
10/10, great argument
>>752238782
Those arguments are the same and just a valid as ever, all I'm hearing from you is that citizen need the right to keep and bear mini nukes or stronger anti aircraft guns.
>>752239091
We don't even have mandatory safety classes unless it's for a concealed carry. So we get stupid red necks that leave their loaded pistol in their night desk and are surprised when they come home to a dead 5 year old
>>752236651
>0.0000009257570867
sweetie, no.
try 0.009257570867
>>752239263
>all I'm hearing from you is that citizen need the right to keep and bear mini nukes or stronger anti aircraft guns.
That's just me following the logic of "we need guns to protect ourselves from the government".
That's horse-shit when handing out nukes is the only way to truly be "protected". That which will never happen, and that which never should.
When you get responses like "it's not up for a vote", in a country that loves to brag about freedom and democracy, how can you take that side seriously
>>752239320
That's not the responsibility of the government, we don't live in a communist country it's the parents responsibility to teach their children how to safely handle firearms.
>>752239263
I don't have a problem with the law in theory, I do have a massive problem with gun-toting right wingers who refuse to have a serious conversation about it.
>it's not up for a vote
Fuck off
>>752236682
i dont care either way about the gun debate but your wrong about the north korea bit. we had them in firepower, tech, manpower and supply. we flushed out their villages with agent orange and they still beat us due to them knowing the land and having better strategy. you'd be surprised at how a better strategy can turn the tide of a war.
>>752239716
>>752236506
>he hasn't heard of the Charter of the Forest
>>752236892
That gun took 15-20 secs to reload and fired 10 bullets each shot (1 .72 cal bullet + 9 .38 cal bullets).
>>752238447
ive never seen a picture taken with such quality and professionalism of something so fucking retarded before.
>>752238262
Property is literally nothing more than feels.
>>752239091
>TO BE CLEAR. I'm not exactly saying it should be abolished. I'm saying we should have smarter laws, better background checks, mental health screenings.
>
How about we enforce the current laws? How many Denied NICS checks have been followed up on? What about the Air Force not reporting dishonorable discharge? How about StrawNigger purchases?
>If you don't see a problem when a man can own 10 guns legally that mimic AR firing rates,
1 bullet per trigger pull?
>then use those to kill 50 and maim aalmost 600, I can't have a serious conversation with you
It's been reported that close to 100 of injured were due to the chaos and trampling.
However, I agree, un-warranted killing (murder) should be illegal
>>752239785
But it's not, the possibility of getting it amended is in all practicality impossible. So with it being a constitutional right and more importantly as the founding fathers called it an inherent right. The End
>>752239716
With how stupid people are, I see a problem with that. The right to own a machine made for killing humans shouldn't be a right at all, but a privilege.
It's too bad the NRA loves to lobby millions to keep it out of the question.
>>752239861
That was true. Not anymore, you don't need to worry about casualties when you can send in a UAV. Technology always changes war. Why do you think the last global conflict was historically very long ago. That isn't normal. The only reason we haven't turned them into glass is because they hold 10 mil. hostage in Seoul. Their tech is almost 60 years outdated.
>>752235684
OP is a God. Thanks for this post I completely agree
>>752235684
>calls it outdated
>Makes no arguments about why it is outdated
>does so in an inflammatory manner
1/10 bait
y'all niggas toasting in a troll bred
sage goes in all fields
>>752240154
The only good communist is a dead one.
>>752240100
how absolutely dare you call us that
>>752240215
>1 bullet per trigger pull?
bump stocks. 90 RPM.
>It's been reported that close to 100 of injured were due to the chaos and trampling.
So? people get trampled on black friday every year yet you don't hear me advocating the removal of everyone's legs
>Greatest democracy on earth
>>752240220
>"it's not up for a vote
You do realize they lived hand-in-hand with slave owners?
It was a different time and they had no way of knowing you could glass an entire city in a fraction of a second with one weapon
>>752240413
I could tell that just by scrolling through and seeing all the "muh gubment" memes
>>752240240
Well tough shit because it's a right not a privilege, your feels can't change that nor should they impose onto others in doing so.
>>752240413
I made plenty of points you illiterate fuck.
All i've gotten so far is that
>times haven't changed
>I'm paranoid about the government oppressing us in 2017
and
>it's not up for a vote because this really old piece of paper says so
I do respect the people actually discussing it with me
>>752236503
woosh
>>752240240
well thats fair about the drones and how politics are stopping us from doing just that. however when it comes to a civil war there are many factors that would actually turn this into a very similar situation to Vietnam.
>no formal knowledge of enemies or friendlies >no formal uniforms for the rebels
>in an attempt to limit collateral dmg, would have to refrain from heavy firepower
>to limit civilian casualitys would have to refrain from heavy firepower
>morale loss and conflict of interest in military and homeland security would cause defectors and lack of motivation to perform given orders
i have a few more to list but the point is maybe during the initial rebelion there would be drones used marking them as terrorists but after that there would more than likely be no drone use.
>>752240756
The right to own an AR is a human right then? Up there with clean water and freedom of speech? Okay, time to contact the WHO everyone. They'll love to hear that, April fools was 7 months ago
>>752240779
The second point is entirely valid, as it happens in almost every civilization in human history
>Ausfag btw
>>752240605
Our government would not "glass" the American people, they would be toppled over night if such a thing happened same with drone strikes, most of the military and citizenry would turn on them.
>>752240592
ive been to conventions to try to understand it and in my teen years ive beaten my dick to some furry stuff but honestly being a grown adult in a fur suit tied to sexual perversion is pretty fuckin autistic. do what makes you happy i just think its nuts to walk around with a specific pronoun and making woof noises.
>>752240985
Yes
>>752241021
That is the only point I come close to understanding. Yet as I've tried to make clear, there already exists a modern country that hands guns to citizens yet is completely authoritarian.
If your government wants to control you, THEY FUCKING WOULD. That's true now more than ever.
>>752240983
>to limit civilian casualitys would have to refrain from heavy firepower
We haven't followed that in the wars following 9/11 so I see no reason why we would in the future.
We had no fucking problem crushing ISIS and they very nearly had their own country under their control. millions of soldiers and plenty of weapons
>>752241230
So you agree? It's ludicrous to even assume they would try to assault their own citizens in mass? Citizens that are so accustomed to a democracy they feel there are certain things that aren't even up to a vote?
>>752241312
kek. Okay then
>>752241358
Not unless they want to get shot, we the people are the ones that drew that line in the sand and they know what happens if they cross it.
>>752240983
I also didn't get too far into it, but no one wants global conflict anymore. The top 1% have way more value in stock of having a lot of cheap labor on the other side of the world now. We may even see our first trillionaire this century.
At the same time I could see a global conflict this century when we run out of enough potable water, food and AI, the coral reefs dying, etc.
>>752240474
The only good propertarian is a slave.
>>752236651
An AR 15 is an assault weapon by legal definition though.
And the only thing keeping an AR15 from being an assault rifle is being semiauto only.
The ar15 is the semiauto commercial version of the M16.
Can you see why people call it one?
>>752241767
We the people, huh? You mean the aristocrats that wrote that fucking document? The ones that are given millions to deny climate change and stick to this 300 year old piece of paper like it's the fucking word of God. But only till the point when they aren't paid for it. As I've made clear. The patriot act, spying on your own citizens, and saving the hacks for all of your smartphones
>>752241358
right but if it were a civil war are you going to target rebels or start blowing up your own workforce and consumer base?
>>752242074
>The AR15 is an assault rifle
>except that by the very definition of an assault rifle, it isn't.
>>752241521
"there are certain things that aren't even up to a vote?"
Yes there are things that will not change and should not
"It's ludicrous to even assume they would try to assault their own citizens"
Saying that it won't happen is no excuse for removing our main means of preventing it, plus guns are used in America for keeping politicians in line as well as justifiable homicides.
>>752242164
Ask the guards DMZ separating North Korea and South Korea. The ones that just fired on a soldier trying to leave.
>>752235684
There's 2 reasons why you're saying this, either you're a cousin-fucking redneck piece of shit or you're a cabbage-picking communist piece of shit
>>752242140
this anon does not suck dick for food
>>752242248
>will not change and should not
sure kid
>>752242392
Kill yourself, neoliberal.
>>752235684
>>752242319
were not talking about a handful of deserters or even one. you cant start blowing up your own country,workforce and consumer base with out fucking yourself in the ass.
Tyranny would not hesitate to burn you right back
>>752242235
There is more to an assault rifle than just full auto. the ar15 checks 2 of 3 boxes.
It's not an assault rifle, but can you really blame people for calling it one?
>>752242248
Oh really? Isn't that the very definition of an authoritative society? If it were so respected a right, you'd think you'd win the vote in a landslide. You'd think there wouldn't be so many people asking for change. I mean, if it is the will of the people, they should be able to shape the government as we please.
It's not up for a vote. This kind of mentality is the exact reason we aren't the best democracy in the world. Marijuana is a schedule one and are prisons are the most populous per capita in the world.
>Saying that it won't happen is no excuse for removing our main means of preventing it
I repeat, if they wanted to they could and your untrained ass with an AR-15 and a bump stock will not help you against a UAV 10,000 feet in the sky
>>752238176
So just to be clear here. You are a Republican (I assume) that is against state rights?
>>752242164
Hit and run guerrilla warfare on military bases, fuel depots including other government and banking facilities.
>>752242392
I'm a social liberal who believes that when a law isn't effective and does the exact opposite of it's intention, it should be brought into question.
>protect its citizens
I bet the parents of everyone with a dead kid from a mass shooting would love to hear that
>>752240985
>>>752240756
>The right to own an AR is a human right then? Up there with clean water and freedom of speech? Okay, time to contact the WHO everyone. They'll love to hear that, April fools was 7 months ago
Clean water isn't a right
How can we have an intelligent conversation if you don't even know basic facts?
>>752242649
So when Hitler invaded Europe and burned 6 million do you think it was all that difficult for his soldiers to comply willingly? Do you think Mao or Stalin had a lot of trouble brainwashing his people decades ago. In the tens of millions.
Please. Every country in europe is strict on gun laws, and oppression isn't rampant. Times change.
>>752242665
>>>752242235
>There is more to an assault rifle than just full auto. the ar15 checks 2 of 3 boxes.
>
>It's not an assault rifle, but can you really blame people for calling it one?
The Assault Rifle is a made up term, you media fellating cucklord. Ban High Capacity Assault Trucks!
>>752243033
>The Human Right to Water and Sanitation (HRWS) was recognised as a human right by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly on 28 July 2010.[1]
I'll admit I got a few letters wrong.
>>752243080
>inb4 Europe is oppressed because we cant say "gas all the kikes"
>>752235684
I wouldn't hesitate to put my foot up your ass if you did.
And I don't mean that metaphorically: you really would die from a ruptured colon that would be my-foot-sized.
>>752243221
>When the dude who wants to restrict guns knows more about guns than you do.
Assault Rifle is a defined term in firearms manufacturing. Please stop.
>>752243236
>>>752243033 (You)
>>The Human Right to Water and Sanitation (HRWS) was recognised as a human right by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly on 28 July 2010.[1]
>I'll admit I got a few letters wrong.
Do you pay for water?
Then it's not a right
>>752242754
I'm libertarian that's strongly for state rights, that state has turned it's self communist (unAmerican) and no longer has anything in common with the rest of America, it's a shame and has become an insult.
>>752243295
I feel like we're getting somewhere. I mean not in the debate, but in how much of a tool some of you are. I mean the ones with so little to go on they just get protective and spout nonsense or threats
>>752243458
I paid for CLEAN water.
>Did you pay for your gun?
Then it's not a right. Fuck me you're dumb
>>752242754
That's not OP guy
>>752243517
Being for states rights means you can't complain when a state uses their rights to become communist.
Its their choice right? The people in the state elected the leaders, the leaders did what they were elected to do, and now they have harsh gun laws.
That's just california, if you don't like it, don't live there.
>>752242852
Just repeating that father who lost his daughter from a mass shooting and in court said it wasn't the gun to blame.
>>752243586
You can feel all you want, that's the beginning and end of my response to someone saying they'd burn the Constitution of the United States of America.
>>752243517
>>752243858
im a libertarian but my dude you just got blown the fuck out
have some consistent ideals
>>752243458
Pay has nothing to do with something being a right or not but agreed that clean water is not a right.
Would you burn these dubs?
>>752235684
>I would not hesitate to burn this outdated shit
Without this, the world would be in dictatorship right now, maybe with a fortress britain and australia, if lucky.
>>752235684
Shouldn't you be sucking Putin's cock, comrade shill?
>>752244127
That's not a bazooka
>>752243858
I'm libertarian that's for state rights and I'm for free market capitalism so what it means is I move from that state and spend the rest of my life shitting on the state for choosing to become unAmerican.
>>752235684
Blow it out your ass Nigel.
>>752243236
>>>752243033 (You)
>>The Human Right to Water and Sanitation (HRWS) was recognised as a human right by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly on 28 July 2010.[1]
>I'll admit I got a few letters wrong.
>A non-country organization granting a right
I grant a right to hookers and blow
>>752243988
That's not an argument. That line won't ever stop progress, only bring it on faster as you wither with your old hemp paper.
I would burn the part that need no longer apply in a heartbeat
Did someone not get their social security payment on time
>>752237390
*your
>>752244077
Then go burn down the FDA. If you don't think protecting what you eat and drink should be a right for every citizen. Enjoy your led water and poison food
>>752244382
Mommy let you on the Internet today, huh?
>EdgyVirgin.exe
>>752244534
Public school education.
>>752244303
>thinking one nation of 300 million speaks for every human
Do you know who runs the U.N.? You fucking twat.
>>752244595
Hey, at least when given the right I have something to say
>>752243236
America has it's own human rights that includes more than the bluehelmets.
My Ideology is superior
>>752244127
I survived one of these once.
>>752244692
Britfag detected
>>752244792
So a committee with sanctioned members from almost every country on earth is trumped by one nation with 4.4% of the global population?
Makes sense
>>752243427
>Assault Rifle is a defined term in firearms manufacturing. Please stop.
In anything the public can legally buy?
The AR platform is referred to as a Modern Sporting Rifle
>the amount of faggot who dont understand we are a Constitutional Republic
>the amount of faggot who hate the system and have 800 dollar phones and drink 5 dollar cups of coffee
>the amount of people who don't realize how much freedom they have in the US
You should be forced to live literally anywhere else.
>>752246490
>Constitutional Republic
>how much freedom they have in the US
self-proclaimed flagship of democracy and freedom should be criticized for it the most, especially when its not true.
>the number of faggots who can't stand criticism
>the number of faggots who don't understand that it is the key to progress
You should be forced to live literally anywhere else. You'd love a country that never changes
>>752235684
Typical child's response. "Destroy that which I do not actually understand"
>>752236399
also - the government itself will never be 100% unified. There will be anti-government operatives within the government.
>>752236794
What a truly ignorant piece of shit you are. The American constitution is the result of brilliant people fleeing your shithole continent.
>>752236794
>didn't
but it does now
hence why it has amendments
>>752249488
So you agree then. The constitution is subject to change.
>>752235684
As bad as the liberals.
>>752247782
Not destroy. Change.
>>752249742
The constitution is absolutely a work in progress
It established that itself
"In order to form a more perfect union" in the preamble implies it isnt 100% perfect, no document is, and a political structuring claiming to be will lead to tyranny
>lel lets burn it tho bc edgy and lack of understanding
>>752250080
Apparently you can't read.
>>752250246
>>752250387
Apparently you're shit at spotting b8. I made my stance clear afterwords.
Some faggots think "it's not up to a vote, it's a right"
I think it's a privilege
>>752235684
And if our government ever becomes viciously corrupt such that we want to revolt to destroy it as is defined by the 2nd amendment's purpose, how exactly will we do so when not a single person can use a gun? Are we going to get mowed down with assault rifles as we try to run in with knives?
>>752250864
> if our government ever becomes viciously corrupt
It already is you moron.
>Are we going to get mowed down with assault rifles as we try to run in with knives?
No. You'll get hit with drone strikes from UAVs that are flown by soldiers hundreds of miles away in secure facilities. Or run over by a tank that could take bullets from assault rifles all day.
>>752251340
So you're telling me that we already have too strict of weapon control in our country? So why the fuck is gun control the problem? Give me tanks/military drones or give me death
>>752251646
>Give me tanks/military drones or give me death
I'm saying that is the extreme and the only option for the "we need these toys to fight government" argument to work.
>>752237200
100% i would love to drive a tank to work
>>752252343
So would I, up until some crazy person drives one into my kids elementary school
>>752244127
yeah 0000 plx OMG
probly gonna live : \
>>752252629
just drive yours onto theirs
also dont have kids
>>752252629
Ok, and what if that crazy person is the US army after some leader with 1000 charisma manages to screw the rules converting us to a dictatorship and then 5 generations later his descendant is a tyrannical leader who tells the army to drive in the streets and do target practice on civilian cars? What do we regular citizens do then?
And do you honestly think that in the 1930's Europe feared anything like Hitler? Because the fact that they didn't fear that possibility is exactly why so many people lost their lives. If they were prepared for such a situation then Hitler could have been ended way sooner.
>>752252711
>implying you'd know when crazy will attack
see where that mentality shits itself anon?
>>752252629
what is to stop them from driving a pickup truck in to a whole bunch of kids? or something bigger? worked in Paris and it would work on kids.
>>752252996
yes, but a pickup truck wasn't designed exclusively for murdering humans. We also have extensive laws ensuring someone is capable of driving said truck. but would gladly sell a dozen guns to an actual retard
>>752252996
a pickup truck isn't capable of firing tank ammunition or bullets from the 30th floor of a casino at 90RPM
This might sound like gun nut talking points...but I have the right to have an APC drive that bitch wherever permissible, fuck I'd drive it as a daily driver except for fuel economy lol.I have the right to own a semi automatic rifle, heck several and pistols of the same mechanical design principles. I have the right to bare arms against a tyrannical opponent such as OP and his faggotry and the Communists trying to usurp our constitutional rights. I will remove YOU from this mortal coil heathen!
>>752238262
Remember these wise words.
>>752235684
That’s okay because I made hundreds of copies of it
>>752254143
None being the original, all being irrelevant:)
>>752253236
>We also have extensive laws ensuring someone is capable of driving said truck. but would gladly sell a dozen guns to an actual retard
That's because driving isn't a right, and no, not a retard. Question 11f.
>Question 11.f. Adjudicated as a Mental Defective:
A determination by a court,
board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked
subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is
a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or
manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court
in a criminal case; and (2) those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not
guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility.
Thanks for trying though
>>752253391
>>752253236
but that didnt stop a truck from plowing through a crowd in paris....
>>752252957
doesnt matter, if everyone is in tanks all the time we are always prepared. also i just want to live in a tank pls thx
>>752243866
This, GUNS are not the issue everyone should respect the Constitution and what it stands for, and the only gun laws that should exist are those that punish criminals that use guns against other not everyone who abides by the law.
>>752254461
So? how does that make my point null? We have hand cannons as a right? Are you fucking stupid. As i've already said. Just because a nation of 4.4% of the global population likes a 300 year old piece of parchment, doesn't make it a right.
Calling it infallible is ridiculous, and holding it below the standard of driving standards is even more ridiculous. You're only hurting your argument by affirming my point further.
>>752254910
so we should never change it? Tell every woman that the 19th amendment shouldn't have been added.
Why do you hold it so dear? it's a foundation for a government that was going to war. They were desperate for every potential soldier
>>752254477
Points for originality>>752253391
>>752253236
>>752252996
>>752252629
>>752255088
And they still are.
>>752255088
Fuck off right to NoKo.
>>752235684
why do we still listen to a 200 year old irrelevant document..
>>752254932
>Are you fucking stupid.
Yes, I must be. But even a stupid person knows that a question mark goes at the end of a question, rhetorical or not.
>As i've already said. Just because a nation of 4.4% of the global population likes a 300 year old piece of parchment, doesn't make it a right.
Actually, it does. If you don't like it, add amendments or leave the country. I hear Mexico outlaws guns.
>Calling it infallible is ridiculous, and holding it below the standard of driving standards is even more ridiculous. You're only hurting your argument by affirming my point further.
No, just stating facts. As currently written, driving is not a right while gun ownership is a right. Listen, if you're anti-gun, fine by me. I, nor anybody else can force you to own a gun. However, it is my right to do so. Your FEELS do not trump my RIGHT
>>752255860
Because it is more relivant than some uneducated libtard that thinks peaceful blissful people don't get mowed down by the next guy to take advantage of kindness. {Sweden is a prime example}
>>752256041
mowed down? i live in the city.
>>752256041
You are a moron.
>>752253876
>>752240073
Actually they did protest, they also asked politely as well. The olive branch petition, look it up. Granted ya, shooting afterwards.
>>752255906
> I hear Mexico outlaws guns.
So do a lot of countries in europe.
>Yes, I must be. But even a stupid person knows that a question mark goes at the end of a question, rhetorical or not.
Good one. I'm drunk on 4chan, i've every reason not to write well.
>No, just stating facts. As currently written, driving is not a right while gun ownership is a right
Sure. And if it's subject to change or regulation, which it is, then it's not a right. It's an opinion.
> Listen, if you're anti-gun, fine by me. I, nor anybody else can force you to own a gun. However, it is my right to do so. Your FEELS do not trump my RIGHT
This is the soundest argument i've gotten in this thread.
>If you don't like it, leave.
I'd rather stay home and change it, though. I believe the country will be better with more security.
>>752256215
you're* an* moran*
>>752235684
>you now have no natural rights
What do OP?
You cannot speak, live, or work in the US anymore, since you have no right to life, liberty or property
>>752242665
>it checks two out of three boxes
>It checks the scary box
>It checks the black box
>>752235684
I smell a commie, that practices failed every time.
>>752255571
I see nothing about guns in there. He could be talking about North Korea, or communist russia, or the people's republic of China... I seriously doubt he's referring to the U.S. circa 1950. And if he is, this is what his "dictatorial" government has done for him.
>>752256452
>>752256451
give me death not liberty - Thomas Jefferson
>>752256619
God has nothing to do with the right to hold a weapon of mass genocide. That's not what the amendment ever meant to represent
>>752254910
This mentality ignores the inherent RESPONSIBILITY that comes with owning a firearm.
I'm all for everyone's RIGHT to own a gun, but apparently I'm the only one who expects gun owners to be RESPONSIBLE for the weapons they own.
If you want a .50 cal fully automatic tommygun - go for it. But if that weapon ends up missing, then you should be fined and go to jail. And if that gun is used in a crime and it wasn't reported missing, then you should serve life in prison without parole.
That's fair. Own your guns. Secure your guns. No excuses.
ITS OLD IT MUST BE WRONG LOL
After Pearl harbor
>>752256542
>Literally 90% of europe
Sure faggot. This and so many others follow the logic that war and governments don't change. They do, all the time.
>>752256178 You haven't seen A sanctuary city then have you dipshit?
>>752256215 Opinions are not arguments.
>>752256989
>>752256953
IT'S OLD SO IT'S WISE AND INFALLIBLE LOL
>>752257124
t. baby's first satire
If people need guns to hunt they should just get hunting rifles. You don't need an AR-15 to hunt
>>752257191
does it feel good to belittle someone? jerk!
>>752257194
>>752257191
no, just shit satire that is borderline undetectable in text form and always questionable on /b/
>>752257194
>>752255906
I don't think people have read the whole thread. I'm not anti-gun. I'm anti-gun laws that are bat-shit nuts
>>752257365
>>752244127
roll
>>752257273
>>752257381
the satire was dumb. no one is making the "its old so it must be wise" argument (at least that i have seen) and if they did itd be fucking moronic. However, this thread is littered with "200 year old parchment" shit like that means anything
these faggots need to read through the constitution, yes, ALL of it, preamble, 7 articles, 27 amendments, then get back to me.
>>752256940
>I'm all for everyone's RIGHT to own a gun, but apparently I'm the only one who expects gun owners to be RESPONSIBLE for the weapons they own.
Not at all friendo. I was the one up-tread that asked why they don't go after NICS Denials. Why we don't prosecute obvious Straw(nigger) purchases? Why countless gun charge cases are dropped every year as part of pleas?
I own several guns. Even though I have no kids or even roomates, my guns (and ammo) are locked in a hidden cabinet. Additionally, I have pics and serial numbers, and offsite backups. If anything goes missing, it will be reported to the local police RIGHT AWAY. (Unless I lose everything all at once in some strange fishing accident)
Pic related, a sign in my house
>>752257513
Obama sold billions worth of guns to keep Africans safe, while crying on TV trying to grab guns out of the hands of Americans on his way out.
>>752257194
>If people need guns to hunt they should just get hunting rifles. You don't need an AR-15 to hunt
>>752257756
Rather than giving it logic or thought they just post unrelated or non-specific comments from people who are long dead. Or chant some reason for loving their old testaments for some bizarre reason I can only believe is a non-sense attachment to patriotism and the want to hold raw murder in their hands
>>752258028
>>752257365
>Defending guns and the first amendment
>Not realizing the rifle >>752257194 is an "assault rifle"
Guys come on, you're better than this.
>>752235684
And all your rights with it I suppose
>>752258028
need/=right.
Exactly. It isn't, and has no business being thought of as a right. Well, unless you face imminent invasion from a foreign power that wishes to rule over you. So, basically the right to be a soldier in the army. Which is already a right for most
>>752258433
>freedom of speech
>the same as the right to own a hand cannon
Yeah that makes sense
The NRA stands for freedom
https://youtu.be/cWdrSYa8X4E
>>752244127
Roll
>>752258206
chances are the quotes are a poignantly articulated way of expressing a point they might butcher in delivery
actually give them a read for once
>>752258605
>Yeah that makes sense
The 2nd Amendment is there to protect all the others
Anybody that thinks ordinary citizens with conventional weapons can't stand up to tyranny hasn't been paying attention to Iraq and ESPECIALLY Afghanistan. These are sheep fucking goat herders with not much in the way of weaponry, but still managed to kill quite a few and retreat into their hidey holes. All it would really take is to first spark a war with another world power, then start resisting from the inside once the nation is tied up with a large scale war. Continuing to maintain ties with the enemy nation and receiving Intel, weapons, and supplies from them would work well, given that supply lines could be established. That's pretty much how the American Revolution was won (Britain was at war with France).
>>752258736
>chances are
>chances
sorry, I just don't hold the chance some old dead guy really loved guns based on an off-hand quote to justify a 200 year old law. Based on the fact that, you know, their old. And dead. And not alive to experience a very different world and harbor an opinion on it.
>>752258965
Don’t bother trying to explain this to a liberal, its like playing chess with a pigeon. They’re too stupid to understand so they shit on the board and strut around acting like they won
>>752258965
>>752259305
HAHAHA
Freedom to speak holds the same weight as holding a cute little pistol.
I love you /b/
>>752258540
>Well, unless you face imminent invasion from a foreign power that wishes to rule over you. So, basically the right to be a soldier in the army.
2A isn't there to protect you just simply from other governments
>>752235684
>>752259415
My gun in my hand is the reason I am allowed to say and believe what I want without interference. Now back to your moms basement and pout
>sorry, I just don't hold the chance some old dead guy really loved guns
I said "Chances are" in relation to the intent of the poster, not of the quote. I said that because i cant say for certain the intent of EVERY poster, but chances are, that is what the poster intends to do
As far as the quotes go, if you really believe that philosophical and political statements only hold true in their specific context, and that these quotes arent meant to be principles applied in many situations, i cant help you
Also way to use the exact fallacy i mentioned
>>752259305
>Don’t bother trying to explain this to a liberal, its like playing chess with a pigeon. They’re too stupid to understand so they shit on the board and strut around acting like they won
Thanks for the laugh. A very good analogy indeed!
>>752259417
That point is null nowadays, as i've stated a dozen times. ISIS is getting fucked and they had all your shite going for them. Lawless land and guerrilla warfare, tanks and modern weapons and a massive military force. Almost the size of a country before a coalition kicked their asses.
TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
>>752259415
It's not freedom to speak, first of all. It's freedom of speech, petition, assembly, press, and religion. 2nd amendment doesn't mean shit if you cannot assemble, petition, disseminate information, and speak earnestly on the topics that are important and worth dying/killing for, should it come to that.
>>752259592
Come again?
>>752259808
Come again?
>>752259808
>>752259808
>>752259808
>It's not freedom to speak
>It's freedom of speech
im sorry whaaa
>>752259879
Do you have a reaper drone?
No?
Ok then fuck off punk
