Programmers of /b/, which language do you use and why?
>c# mostly because unity
>bit of php, sql, js, and other gayness
>>752135980
No Python?
I use C# .NET with Visual Studio on W10
I make small windows applications for myself mostly. I created my own music player, my own secure, unbreakable encryption/decryption algorithm, my own chat spammer, and a couple other applications for myself
Anyone here wanna try to break my algorithm?
>>752135794
brainfuck
>>752136802
Yes
Mostly C++
>>752136802
I will try
>>752136802
Replying to myself here just cause I'm feeling cocky today. I've encrypted a sentence with ten words in it using my unique algorithm which nobody on Earth has a copy of.
Anybody here good enough to figure out what it says?
mws3owQNF6ka9xc1HzVVXU2lfqALEENhkXf5suQ9rxGExPC9DWlXSCzn93IQrk8mV6rSHwKMXZVp5mwBD53eG5BiP0uV35/w2ouwdL9nq3mauW2PSqs44sbq9eDh2InhpVfLGlBUvZsfwjtR8T3Q+ylRlAHes4wN/BG3u0C46UY=
Good luck!
>>752137025
>>752137047
Sorry forgot to reply to you guys. Here it is:
>>752137052
Ten words
>>752135794
Depends on the project and situation.
At work mostly .net (c# or vb depending on what the customer wants).
C/c++ for anything multi platform or performance critical
Rarely php these days, most customers want aspx.
C or Assembler for microcontrollers
Can work with most languages. But python and lua makes me cringe.
>>752137052
>>752137087
no one cares about your useless trasg or you
>>752137052
Here is mine
>OpIsFaGgOt
Its really hard, good luck guys!
>>752137387
>>752137458
>can't crack simple encryption
>gets triggered
>ell emm ay oh
I guess my encryption is better than I thought, since even 4chan the infamous hackkar can't crack it
>>752137052
i decoded it to this.
7
55U]M~ Caw=
iWH,rO&W]ilb?KߟڋtgymJ8؉WPT;Q=)Q
@F
>>752137918
Then you have failed to decrypt it. It's ten words in plaintext.
>>752137953
Can you give us the source code of your encryptor? I want to live independently and without being spyed on
>>752135794
I use the Wolfram Language. It's one of the most modern and most convenient languages currently out there. Even better than Python.
Currently working with php/laravel at my job.
Can also program in java, c# and python though. Too beta to look for a new job though despite hating working with web applications and especially front-end faggotry.
>>752138151
Nope sorry. That would completely compromise it's sheer unbreakability and strength. Plus there's probably over 1000 feds looking at this board at any given moment who would LOVE to break another encryption algorithm.
>>752136978
Malbolge is way better.
>>752138290
>>752137377
Did you study computer studies to get the job?
>>752138400
I never graduated. I got my job by someone vouching for me and kept it by adapting quickly and being good at it as I had no experience in web development beforehand.
>>752138336
A scrambler isn't that impressive. Also if your ciphertext isn't secure if people know the crypto alg... it's a terrible crypto alg.
>>752138336
Well, fuck. Guess I'll have to stick to Rijndael then..
No man hasn't 8+ years of Swift experience. That girl is a man-eater but I would still give my left nut, and the left half of my right nut, to be her next bootycall!
>>752138586
It's not a scrambler silly. And you must not know how encryption works if that's your argument.
Know why base64 isn't secure? Everyone knows it inside and out. MD5 isn't even secure anymore, because everyone knows it inside and out.
You think it's a terrible crypto alg? Decrypt this: >>752137052
Until then you're shitting out your mouth basicboi
>>752138710
RIP
>>752138586
>>752138881
He has a point there. For the record, WPA2, which is an open protocol, has also been cracked just recently and shouldn't be used anymore. I think WPS is the only viable option now
>>752135794
JavaScript
For front end web development
>>752138710
serpent is by far the most annoying
like I wanna just get like 30 pictures of something retarded so it looks like a CP set and do like serpent > twofish > AES > IDEA > serpent > twofish > AES
nigga comes back into the holding room and is like THAT JOKE COST MONEY
python, c
C#, does everything I need (mainly programs that utilize SQL)
>>752138881
You're asking someone to un-hash a hashcode produced by your hash alg lmao. You don't understand crypto.
>>752139026
WPA2 is AIDS
>>752139392
It's actually NOT a hashcode, it just LOOKS LIKE one. I intentionally programmed it to spit out an output that resembles Base64 visually, but in actuality is just an encrypted form of the plaintext string input. For someone saying others don't understand crypto, you SURE DON'T UNDERSTAND CRYPTO
>my sides
>>752135794
>>752135794
human resources fags aren't the smartest people around. they'll just arbitrarily pick a number of years experience that they think will only bring in top candidates, they are not interested in knowing anything about the actual position they're advertizing for. that hr retard probably doesn't know swift is a programming language.
>>752138336
What is the point of a crypto alg if you can't distribute it for use? The perfect tool is useless if no one can use it.
>>752139392
>doesnt understand cryptography
>"You don't understand crypto."
Python, php, lua, sql, a bit js
I wish to learn c#/c++ and maybe Java?
Matlab
>>752139026
My wifi network is literally open and unsecured. Ask me if I give a fuck
>>752139563
I'm not the only person who can use it. I've created a simple interface for encrypting plaintext as well as files with my algorithm, which I have distributed to others within my organization.
>>752136802
>unbreakable encryption/decryption algorithm
>>752139679
So it takes one person's HD being compromised, your alg is out and cracked. Again, useless.
>>752139612
Attackors could enter your network without any prior-authorization in case you do not have a fitting subnet-mask and might then even eavesdrop on your entire network in order to prepare further attacks. Do you give a fuck?
>>752139026
WPA2 was not cracked, if you're referring to the KRACK vuln, it's a very specific exploit if you're already on the wireless network
>>752139722
Attempt to decode: >>752137052
Feeling stupid after hours of effort is normal.
>>752139787
Nope. It's not stored on a single hard drive.
>>752138881
Base64 encoding is not even the same type of concept as MD5 retard. MD5 is a hashing algorithm. Hashing algorithms can't be reversed. MD5 is considered weak because it's chances of collisions are high (two different inputs resulting in the same output). Base64 encoding is meant to be reversible, it's no different than converting to binary (base2) and back.
>>752139828
All they would find is books I write and porn I watch
>>752139852
>still hasn't cracked it
>>752139852
>>752139579
Shut the fuck up assholes. As a reminder. You still haven't cracked my encryption ;)
>>752138881
>Everyone knows it inside and out. MD5 isn't even secure anymore, because everyone knows it inside and out.
I don't even know where to start
>>752139919
What are the books about?
>>752139919
wouldn't it be possible to upload illegal shit on your pc if your network is open?
>>752139970
you're not me
>>752140018
The porn industry
>>752139839
Have a compiled version of the code?
>>752140039
With the right exploits, sure. But a bigger threat would probably be the attackor downloading child porn through the network, making the owner of the network liable.
>>752139839
Lol. Ok decrypt this. 10 words same game.
AODHF2j4LKJDOWEU88EKLWJEW7EKHWW
My crypto algorithm.
>>752140117
Of course I do and of course no I'm not giving it over lol
>being this dum
C# because everyone uses windows.
Python is fun if you wanna get into machine learning and shit.
>>752140222
>i cant figure urs out so ill change da subject........
>>752140147
The
>>752135794
Both types of C. And when that doesnt work, you can usually botch it in Perl
>>752140147
This
>>752140238
You obviously don't understand crypto then, and you're algo is shit.
Kerckhoff's principle
>>752135794
python, fortran
obscurantism != secure
Give us the source code and we'll crack it.
>>752140222
>>752137052
I also have an encryption algorythm, try to crack this!
--- .--.
.. ...
.-
..-. .- --. --. --- -
>>752140264
Just simple proof a crypto alg isn't strong if you give one ciphertext, no plaintext, and ask someone to decrypt it. Attackers have more information than that don't be naive
Java for Android and JavaScript for backend, but they kinda suck.
>>752140238
>>752140338
oooh now hes got you
>>752140474
You can run Java on Android? How the fuck do you do this, I've tried and failed multiple times on that
Unironically Swift, some Objective-C, and Java because we did it in school.
I'm a developer for a company that makes apps for personal clients. I'm a glorified freelancer.
Serious question IT-Bros
This has been bugging me for a while, but I guess this is a good a place to ask as any.
I got my business degree 6 months ago, but I realized that I like building and coding better (ive been learning myself Python for the past 3 months).
I'm pretty sure that I want to do this profesionally in the future so I'm wondering: Is it possible to make a career as a programmer/future CTO without a CS degree?
I'm a Dutchfag, which is one of the IT hubs of western europe, so we're drowning in dev jobs (mainly Java, C+, and Python/Bi/DS)
>>752136201
too gay
>>752138710
RSA has a simple encoding algorithm and knowing it doesn't give you dick squat for decrypting anything unless you're the NSA and have spent 40 years doing nothing but multiplying 255 digit prime numbers
>>752140570
>business degree
lel
For real though, yes you have a chance. Your degree doesn't really matter, what matters is what you do. If you get a job as a programmer and work your way up, you'll be fine. Your business degree might be a bonus when you get to higher levels of mgmt.
>>752140570
If you want to do IT you can do that with a business degree and some self-teaching.
If you want to be a software engineer, you should probably go back to school.
>>752140338
>>752140424
>>752140493
>i can't crack your algorithm without the source code which means it's a shit algorithm
lmfao i wish you realized how autistic you sound right now. obviously all decryption specialists personally have a copy of the sourcecode of the encryption they're trying to break. jesus christ haha
i'll give you a hint. the following encrypted text contains the word 'nigger'
pastebin com DMtGYceC
security through obscurity can work, but unless you've got some random component it's vulnerable to frequency analysis. also unbreakable encryption is an oxymoron, if no one can break it then no one can read it, which is just hashing tbh
>>752135794
javascript, livescript, coffeescript
C#
(html,css)
also java for android apps
sql?
KILL ME
>>752140570
Of course it is. I've seen so many people do it self-taught; I would even go so far as to guess that about half the IT workers are self-taught. The real question is: Do people with a CS degree have it easier to get a decent job, does it open them any doors that are closed for normal programmers?
>>752140632
>RSA has a simple encoding algorithm
you mean encryption algorithm?
And it entirely depends what key size you use. Small key size RSA is utterly broken.
>>752137052
Looks a hell of a lot like aes
>>752135794
ENGLISH
>>752140632
It really isn't too hard to do that with a strong computer.
>>752140424
>telling someone not to be naive
>while being extremely naive
>ISHYGDDT
>>752140705
and yet again, unable to produce a very basic requirement for algorithm verification
>>752139517
You're either a troll or actually retarded if you think knowing the algorithm makes encryption insecure. Either way, you should jump off a bridge.
>>752140684
What the fuck is it with the management meme? Every high end manager I've ever met at small to medium sized tech companies have been dropouts who started their own company, that eventually failed too.
>>752140570
I'm CTO without CS degree but I was twelve years’ experience.
>>752140898
management meme?
companies have managers, it's not a meme
>>752140841
>>752140893
>still can't crack it
>getting incredibly mad up in here
>top kek
>>752140705
>calling others autistic
>bragging about algorithm he made
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>752138881
Comparing encoding to hashing
Nigga you fucking dumb.
>0010 0000 0001 0111
>not writing everything in straight binary
ok confirmed troll thread
>>752140989
I was referring to the idea that managers all have to have degrees fuck wit
ITT: People claiming to be good at cryptography, but who are somehow unable to crack a simple encryption algorithm made by a 4channer in his/her spare time
oh 4chan :')
>>752140998
Mate, you're just fucking with us now, aren't you? Nobody can be THIS retarded. Do you actually have any proper arguments to show that your "holy, unbreakable algorythm" is indeed unbreakable? So far, all the letters you posted here are most likely nothing but gibberish you produced by hand. Go kill yourself
>>752140767
I can confirm it is hard even with a CS degree. I have an Associates and a Bachelors and its ridiculously hard finding a programming job without any real world experience.
>>752140684
I know bud, but i decided to finish the degree in stead of changing majors
>>752140688
I do wish to become a software engineer. As far as going back studying, I don't mind, as long as I'm able to work as an engineer on the side
>>752140767
Well, that's good news. This mainly is what I'm wondering as well, but a good friends father is a major executive at one of the largest IT firms in the world while educated in child education
>>752140705
Do you even into asymmetric cryptography?
You have got to be a troll or 15.
c# because of school and unity. java and javascript/react because of work
>>752141203
So what do you plan to do now?
Former programmer turned Linux/VMware sysadmin (because the money is better). Used to program c c++ php Perl java JavaScript, x86 assembly, most major shells, etc
>>752141165
>can't into basic encryption
>all the letters you posted here are most likely nothing but gibberish you produced by hand
>>752140938
Well, at least that is good news :)
>>752141379
Pff, of course. The key is replaced by stars. Who are you trying to fool right now=
>>752141203
Best bet is to find an internship and prove yourself. Also develop some open source software, put it online for free on your own website and then include it in your resume
>>752141506
>can't figure it out even after being proven to be a huge faggot
man you really have an insatiable desire to taste cock in your mouth don't you kek
>>752141581
>man you really have an insatiable desire to taste cock in your mouth don't you kek
Can't come up with real arguments anymore, so you have to insult me? Who would have thought. :DD
>>752141203
Hence me stating that I'm Dutch. We're up to our tits in devlopment jobs over here
I do work in whatever the fuck I'm being paid to work in.
Good software isn't about which language is used to solve the problem. You can achieve the same goal using any language.
You can also make a horrible clusterfuck in any language. The important thing is to not do that.
>>752141788
What about languages that aren't turing-complete?
>>752141669
you're getting awfully mad over your inability to solve an extremely basic encryption algorithm m8.
look, i even provided a HUGE plaintext selection along with its encrypted counterpart: >>752141379
i'm sure this is way too hard for you and much above your paygrade (NEET Bux aren't valuable)
>>752141581
Just entered thread but let me get this straight, you encrypted something using an undisclosed algorithm AND with an undisclosed key, and are surprised noone can decrypt it? Isn't that the entire goddam point of encryption?
not to derail the thread but where should i start if i was going to get into programming as a hobby ?
>>752141913
Literally anyone could produce an algorithm that does this. Again, it's more or less hashing.
>>752141974
what are you interested in? Games? Websites?
>>752141913
I'm not surprised nobody can decrypt it. I'm more impressed by the autism in this thread, more specifically how everyone in this thread is suddenly an expert at encryption yet cannot decrypt any of the selections I've provided.
I've already stated it's unbreakable and that nobody will solve it.
C/C++ because embedded dev.
>>752141982
That's my point though, even if it were encypted with say RSA and the key wasn't disclosed it should be very difficult to decrypt, that is the whole point of encryption. Using a custom algorithm just makes it even harder (unless your algorithm has a vulnerability)
>>752141841
You want me to solve the sentence, huh? You really want me to break your pathetic little encryption algorythm? Alright, man. I didn't want to do this initially, let you have your fun with the neat little program you wrote and were so proud of, but now I'm not even giving a fuck anymore. I want to see your burn. You'll regret having pushed me to fight you the way I will do now. You should have never challenged me that way, but you did, and you'll pay the price now -- the price being that you have to create an entirely new, shitty encryption algorithm after I'll be done with you. You'll see that I'm not a man to joke around with. I've worked for the local secret agencies for a while and am now working in IT Systems Security. Brace yourself, because Winter is indeed coming now.
learning python.
and by learning python i mean i've done nothing so far beyond downloading python 2 and some other shit my pal told me to download for this while i figure out how to learn python from the internet
>>752141839
I don't believe that non-turing-complete languages are viable for general purpose software development. There's probably some hobby project language somewhere to prove me wrong, but that would also be a short-cut to the whole 'horrible clusterfuck' thing.
>>752142179
i didn't know i could cringe this hard
>>752142031
games
>>752141841
how old are you
>>752135794
I don't use a language I just smash the keyboard the the retard I am
>>752142465
69 xdddddddddddddddd
>>752136978
>>752135794
Ook!
A language so simple even monkey kan use it.
Visual Basic 6.0 in windows 98
If you use anything else, you are doing it wrong.
>>752142608
because if you're not 30+ i am actually worried about you
>>752142796
still mad you can't into encryption i see.
>>752142455
and apps
>>752136802
Unless you have studied math and cryptography for years it would be dumb luck if your "unbreakable encryption algorithm" could withstand any scrutiny. GTFO unless you want to provide source code files.
>>752142906
i dont even program ahhaaha
>>752135794
0100 1111 0101 0000 0010 0000 0100 1001 0101 0011 0010 0000 0100 0000 0010 0000 0100 0110 0100 0001 0100 0101 0100 0101 0100 1111 0101 0100
>utf-8
>>752140938
Also: what is your background anon?
>>752143035
hahahahaha. so let me get this straight. you can't decode it unless you have the source code. sounds like someone has no experience in encryption. lmfao. GTFO unless you can into encryption newfag
>>752138336
If your shitty ass tool wont hold up to peer review then it is fucking useless. Stop being a faggot and post source code. It's probably nothing special anyways.
>>752143359
hello agent, sorry you can't figure out my encryption without the source code. it must be "nothing special" if literally zero people here can figure it out lmao
>>752140570
Most shit you can do with just high school education.
But I hate kids without solid preparation in CS doing this job as they lack in structure and understanding of what's really important: architecture and clean code.
If you want to do websites or mobile apps, just go for it, but remember code is just the step where you tell the computer what to do, most of the job should be architecture, choice of technologies etc.
In fact discussions about best/worst languages feel kinda pointless to me as you just write something in the most fit language for what you need in each specific project. Languages are just a bunch of grammars and syntactic rules you need to remember (or you could just look up), but understanding the needs of a project and knowing what kind of language best suits it are the real skills
>>752141393
Hi dad
>>752139679
I'm very submerged in C# and C++, i'm also familiar with VB and SQL. Could i be able to find a decent job with these? What other languages should i be getting into? I do not have a degree in anything.
>>752143481
implying anyone is actually trying
stop being so pathetic
>>752143359
I've encrypted the contents of your post with our algorithm
Pastebin 6x08dgyW
And yet I'm still confident your gay ass can't figure it out kek
>>752143642
>so mad they've given up kek
>>752142906
Are you happy?
>>752143516
I'm a neat freak and prefer elegance over efficiency. I hope to land to master your points soon enough.
Thanks anon, this helps
>>752143709
This isn’t just autism. This is advanced autism.
>>752143811
>i can't figure it out
>better call them autistic
oh /b/
>>752143481
No one has cracked it yet because nobody here fucking cares. The NSA has probably already broken it though. Post the source code for your media player if you want attention. I bet it's total shit too.
>>752144151
you're cute :)
>>752143869
>>752144248
>>752143811
samefag
>>752138336
What is this faggottry? Are you sending hashed passwords over http?
>>752143799
Elegance is awesome I too prefer readable elegant code to short efficient code... I mean most of the times unless you have very limited resources... See it's all about context.
>>752143709
Are you that guy trying to reach space on a self-made rocket to prove Earth is flat?
Because that's what it looks you're up to here.
>>752144762
nope. i'm just giggling at the audacity of some of the people in this thread claiming to understand cryptography :)
>>752144316
Oh shit he's a hacker too. I think I might have just a little cancer right now.
>>752144316
gg bro
>>752135794
Python
It's the only good language
>>752144907
>>752144879
>views thread on mobile device with data on for new IP address
again, samefag detected.
>>752136802
>clever tactic to b8 retards into downloading some keylogger, trojan, malware or whatever
>>752144853
Oh cool I see
>>752144979
Wifi was on tho
>>752144316
>>752144879
>>752144907
Someone should give this genius 4chan gold.
Java because I can easily hop into C and minor effort for python but with the freedom of still knowing java.
>>752145104
did u know u can turn data on, go to a website, let it load, then turn it off? mind blown.
>>752145208
>gets proven wrong
>but but but
Nigga please
>>752145279
>proven wrong
>>752138718
Retard, did you read OP's post or fucking what?
>>752139601
i fucking lol'd
>>752139970
Anyone can make an impossible encryption, ya dingus. Doesn't mean you're some sort of encrypting master.
>>752137052
>>752138881
Hey dumbass, guess what: no one here can crack your cypher for the only reason no one has the algorithm. As the guy who you replied to said, if the strength of your encryption is that the algorithm is secret, then it's not reliable.
Can you explain further why MD5 and base64 are not safe anymore? Because the algorithm is public and a few collisions were found? Great new Sherlock, every hashing algorithm has collisions. RSA was designed over 30 years ago, the underlying algorithm has been out in the open the whole time, and yet, you cannot break RSA-encrypted / MD5-hashed messages.
>>752145955
What is the output of your encryption for this post?
>>752146040
>>752145955
>being this mad over not being able to solve a basic encryption algorithm
its okay sweety, tendies are in the microwave, love you...
Java because it's all they taught in high school and I haven't needed any college CS courses yet.
It's a bit bloated but it gets the job done.
>>752146151
RiXLd5ebwCTWdNCKxTnl1NUSLgMTJp9e3iIGWbWDCU3Ru7xtmksBJgMhL7dbYnXYoK4Iio9zpbyu+Q/jSz4U7KFYlHfWVl5vXM9Df3oZpvXxu5NTO+qPxSQjH5HYMEEPCSv9pCOqq7gz+AXakp3aDQ==
>>752135794
>muh encryption is unbreakable
>your encryption is not unbreakable
>muh encryption is unbreakable!!111111!!11
>your encryption is not unbreakable!1!1!!!
Man do I feel sorry for OP who wanted a nice thread about programming languages.
Java and C# btw OP because of pay grade and job availability over here
>junior function
>requires 5 years of relevant work experience
