Rate my weed /b/, I don't use anything store bought, no nutrients and I use my own soil mix, dunhill for reference
Never mind the sun hill, image I was gonna use is over 2mb
7/10 could use more phosphorus in flowering
>>752106480
isnt it a little late in the season to be growing outdoors? Or are you a southern hemisphere guy? If so which way does you toilet water flush?
>>752106822
Yeah man, I'm far down south, it flushes clockwise I'm pretty sure, yours?
>>752106972
where?
I just pooped, mine flushes clockwise
>>752107113
South Africa. Unfortunately
>>752107203
>Unfortunately
why is that?
Im in the US, are you sure yours flushes clockwise? Mine does
>>752106480
Which week is it?
>>752107355
Just checked dude, it does go counter clockwise, my government has gone to shit in the last ten years, we're a third world country now
>>752106480
You should use nutrients at least.
You're looking to get maybe a quarter out of that when it's all said and dry. Maybe.
>>752106696
Pick the dead leaves off, it's only wasting plant ennui at this point.
>>752107746
>it does go counter clockwise
Thanks for checking/the science experiment anon
>my government has gone to shit in the last ten years, we're a third world country now
I feel you man, we elected Donny somehow and he an embarrassment to us nationally and internationally
my first try, any weedfags here? Maybe i have a problem with one of these plants..next pic....
>>752106480
>>752106639
>>752106696
Its too late in the game but have you ever tried "topping" your plants? Basically you cut off the top leaves right about where the fan leafs meet (when its growing upward and not buds yet), this forces the plant to create two main stalks instead of one and thus doubling your bud yields.
>>752108024
Why does this leaf grow another leaf in the center ? is this normal for this plant (new york diesel auto) the other plants growing normal. (sorry for bad english fags)
>>752106480
its pretty shit in terms of yield . trichomes look like the plant is allready done but the cola looks more like it is in the first or second week or flowering .
>>752106480
I got some laughable material for you:
https://streamable.com/8v90t
>>752108123
garbage
guys how do i make a hash cigarette
>>752108123
its a normal mutation it happens with hybrid plants a lot . sometimes there is even flowers growing in that place . dont worry too much about it its a random mutation . otherwise the plants look fairly healthy as far as i can tell with the blue light obscuring the true colors etc.
What it means "flushes clockwise" ?
>>752108297
which direction does the water in your toilet rotate after using the lever that releases water to remove the waste from the toilet bowl.
In anons case/hemisphere, the water rotates clockwise
>>752108248
reply to this post or your mom will die in her sleep tonight
>>752108248
thanks man.they grow really fast, i hope everything works well. here another pic 3 weeks ago
>>752108261
>>752108607
fuck that should go to you
>>752108607
DUDE
>>752108696
i figured as much np. a little word of advice add a little clip on ventilator or a couple of pc fans to your box once they enter the flowering stage . the increased airflow will reduce risk of mold and pest infestation and increase the growth rate as well as increase the toughness of the stems wich prevents heavy buds from snapping off or drooping down .
>>752106480
>I don't use anything store bought, no nutrients and I use my own soil mix
You say that like it's a good thing. You're only hurting yourself by not using all available resources to your benefit which explains why your weed looks like shit.
>>752106480 blend Banana Peels, Coffee Grinds and Eggshells to make a substrate that you put on the soil of the plant. then water it so get all the nutrients from the substrate down to the roots of the plant
>>752108024
You need to defoliate. It doesn't need to be that thick. Greeting rid of the unnecessary scrub in the middle of the plant quill allow more air flow and encourage upward growth.
>>752108024
Hard to tell under that led light
>>752108123
Just one of the word thugs plants do sometimes.
>>752109189
Or go to the store and buy a product that will give you the same results for $10 and save you months of work creating a compost pile
>>752109198
thats my setup
>>752109593
Woah what country are you in? I haven't seen a tent lined with white in at least 6 years. The reason they stopped was because the plastic they used was offgassing toxic fumes that were killing plants. I don't recognize any of the hardware and that is literally my day job. Other than that everything is set up properly and looks good. The led light is a topic for another thread.
>>752109593
Mine btw. Still under construction.
>>752110723
holy fuck, now my setup looks like shit against yours. wow
>>752109819
i am from middle europe, i heard that a white tent ist a bit better then a reflected tent but i have only watched youtube videos, so i am a grownoob
>>752111333
Nice trips.
I've been at this a while. This is my fifth time building out a grow for myself. I've learned a lot the hard way.
>>752111451
It would rewally depend on the material but typically Mylar is at least 10-15% more reflective than basic white plastic. There is something called orca film (not sure if it's available in europe) and it's white but even more reflective than Mylar along with having much better light scattgering properties. It feels like a very thick paper.
>>752111871
ahh okay, thanks, i will google it later.
Im afk now, happy growing maybe we see us in another weed thread.
>>752112167
Perhaps. I don't post often as grow threads devolve into everyone calling everyone else an idiot.
>>752109819
>>752111451
>>752111871
>>752112167
relevant:
For a long time it was thought that a shiny silver or Mylar material would reflect better because the plastic sheeting that was previously used in the industry was cheap poly or PVC that off gassed chemicals into the plants and it just so happened to be white plastic sheeting. So overall, plastic sheeting was given a bad reputation early on. However over the years polyethylene sheeting has grown in popularity because it’s typically manufactured with virgin resins, so there’s no off-gassing and it has additives to extend its life and durability. Grow room plastic sheeting made of polyethylene is less expensive, easy to install, easy to clean, and insulates heat. Mylar and other shiny materials are still good reflective sheeting, but if you want the best light reflection white is the preferred and most recommended
from here: http://www.americover.com/diy/silver-vs-white-reflective-sheeting/
>>752106480
Lol that's trash, if your going to do something atleast do it right
>>752112785
Interesting anon. I have the equipment at work to truly test this myself. If I have time tomorrow I will set up an experiment measuring the reflected light from both materials using a PAR meter and see what is true.
>>752109593
The fan for the filter is massively oversized for a box that size, I use a pc fan which is much smaller, more silent and uses less energy and I have no smell leaking out
>>752108123
Dude you have a rare genetic deformed strain, it's making buds on the leaves, which aren't potent and very very small, I'd throw the whole plant away and start fresh with something that will yield more than a quarter lol
>>752110723
Nice CMHs. I used to have 315s as well, but I changed to a COB setup.
>>752111871
The white plastic in Homebox Evolution tents is a lot better than mylar. The tents are cooler and reflect light better.
>>752112988
>>752113044
This is why I usually don't post in these threads. People like you who are way way way to confident that they know what they're talking about.
>>752112785
I just glued aluminium foil to the insides of my wardrobe
>>752113107
600w or 1000w COBs? They get pricey if you can't find a good online merchant.
>>752112988
The fan obviously isn't "oversized", only a moron doesn't use inline fans in tent grows.
>>752113044
Leaves like that are very common and have nothing to do with potency or anything else for that matter. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
>>752113243
http://timbergrowlights.com/model-4vs/
Good COB builds are totally worth the money.
>>752113216
I just wanted to give you a tip
I had one of those oversized fans too and it was just to loud
Then I tried to cable a pc fan to an adjustable 3-12 volt DC psu and it worked while being much more silent
If you don't want tips you really shouldn't post in these threads
>>752113355
If you glue an pc fan into a tube you get an inline fan
That thing posted looks like it eats 30 watt
Im growing one in the middle of the winter in a north facing window,curious how that will end up
>>752113591
No, you don't get an inline fan if you glue plastic to a 12v PC fan. Seriously, just go away with that shit.
>>752112954
I've seen differing statistics reported over the years. Many times, I see that mylar is best, then flat white not far behind. What I consistently see reported is that direct light is MUCH more intense than reflected light, even if using the "best" reflective surface.
>>752113591
You might need to consider that your wrong and there are people here who run large scale grows and know far more about this business than you. Honestly the fact that you would recommend using a pc fan for anything is an instant flag to disregard your opinions.
>>752113591
A proper acoustic inline fan is a lot more quiet than a shitty computer fan. You're not going to efficiently cool down a large grow tent with hundreds of watts worth of lighting by using something made for tiny computer cases. The computer fans aren't built with pressure in mind, they're not meant to pull air through carbon filters.
>>752113702
If its winter where you are you must be in the northern hemisphere. The best light in the northern hemisphere comes from the south. Switch directions anon.
>>752113935
Whats the difference?Airflow?
>>752113968
I dont want to smoke it,anon,i just love plants and im experimenting with cannabis,its such a sturdy unkillable plant.
>>752113895
True that direct light is more intense than reflected light. Honestly if you really want to understand how light works on a much more fundamental level you need to study the inverse square relationship between light and distance. Once you know how that works lighting will stop being a mystery and snake oil marketing will have no effect on you.
>>752113591
I was growing some autos in a tent in my basement and learned early on constant airflow is just as important as light. A pc fan just isnt gonna cycle the air at a fast enough rate.
>>752113792
These big fans are only needed for big growrooms
The posted room has space for 4 plants and if you think you need such a big fan you clearly never tried a smaller one
>>752113935
Of course you need larger fans for larger grows, the posted pic is no large scale grow but a little 4 plant box
also you reek like a samefag
>>752113943
He uses LED's, that's never more than 150watts, a single pc fan at 6 volt is absolutely enough to cool it and much more silent than the inline fan if it's no total shit pc fan
They also cool PCs with far more power usage
Also
>samefag
>>752114245
You seem to be a different poster
I have a adjustable slit as air intake at the bottom and the fan is on the top, I can only say the pc fan does a good job
As I said I had an inline fan before and the pc fan does cycle enough air for my dimensions
Pc fans have a really good airflow when you look into it, the form of the fan blades is far better developed than in inline fans
>>752114080
Quantity of airflow is just one aspect. There are different types of inline fans.
Mixed flow fans - efficient and great for straight duct lines without many curves. Their cfm scales well with their increase in size. Typically the most expensive.
Centrifugal fans - these are great for pushing air through ducting twist and turns. Basically they provide better static pressure than mixed flow fans. If you need to poush through a bunch of lights and a lot of duct these are for you. Their cfm doesn't scale with their size very well. After 8" there is a big drop in cfm gains as the fan gets larger. They are cheaper than mixed flow fans
Squirrel cage - brute force fan. Very rarely used anymorew as they are loud and inefficient.
Booster inline fans - these are weak cfm fans used on extended lines of ducting to assist already flowing air down the length of the ductwork. Imagine the fans you see while driving on the ceiling of a tunnel.
>>752114636
Anon,you need considerable airflow,that will force the plant to develop a strong stem that can carry later on more nutrients to the leaves first then to the flowers.
Aircycling is not enough,you need to imitate wind for couple hours a day.
>>752114636
I've used PC fans, they're not meant for pulling through filters.
You know you can easily adjust an inline fan as well? Better to have a large fan running on low power than a tiny computer fan that struggles.
>>752114799
Thanks i was curious,i have a old pc and its fan is imitating a jetfighter and i can feel the air move at my feet,i would have thought it would be enough in a tent to imitate wind.Maybe newer fans create less wind?
>>752114815
no point in trying to talk to that newbie, he obviously thinks he knows everything because he's been growing weed for 6 months.
>>752114636
>Of course you need larger fans for larger grows, the posted pic is no large scale grow but a little 4 plant box
>also you reek like a samefag
You need to understand that carbon filters have recommended cfm ratings for pproper function. Judging by the size of his filter he needs at least 150cfm. No pc fan is going to move 150cfm nor would it have the power to draw air through the filters carbon bed.
>>752106480
Looks like shit, thanks. Give it some sugar water at the very least if you want some weight to it.
>>752114636
Stop. Just stop anon. Please I'm embarrassed for you. Please for one minute let go of your ego and accept that other people know a hell of a lot more than you. Take your fingers out of your ears and learn something.
>>752114989
I would think he thinks fans are only needed to filter the smell.
>>752114815
For that you get an extra fan inside the box that makes wind
>>752114834
Inline fans don't have a bigger diameter, they just have a bigger engine
The computer fan doesn't struggle, I let it run at 5 volt at the start of the grow and go to 9 volt at the end
>>752114996
My wardrobe just 2 meters away from me proves you wrong
You clearly never tried it
>>752115131
Stop samefagging please, it's ridiculous
I've tried it, and it works
>>752115216
>Stop samefagging please
i'm tired af just waking up but it looks like you needed more amendments if you're gonna go total supersoil status of not using any nutes.
I started growing my own about 2 years ago and some good success. I do need to get better at curing though, Im sure some of it is learning to be more patient on the days leading up to and after the harvest. Too many "QC" samples too
you should top dress your soil with some Green Gro Nature's Pride Bloom and (optionally) Flowering Finisher.
>>752115216
Having extra fan just for that purpose is inefficient because it takes up precious space
>>752115216
You're a moron.
I've used Scythe Ultra Kazes (133,60CFM = 228 m3/h) and even they struggled with actual carbon filters.
There's no way you could filter smells with a computer fan running at 5 volts, besides that wouldn't create nearly enough air movement and the humidity in the grow area would rise to ridiculous heights. Good quality weed isn't grown in 80% rh.
>>752115417
don't wet trim, hang whole plant upside down 10 days to 2 weeks and try to get your VPD to 60% humidity and 60F with some ventilation (not fans blowing on it) and you'll have a much better harvest. After that there is no challenge.
>>752115216
>Inline fans don't have a bigger diameter, they just have a bigger engine
Yeah a 150mm inline fan isn't bigger than a 120mm computer fan. Get out.
>>752115702
Depending on where you are this could be disastrous advise. If I did this I would have rot setting in overnight. Cool temps and high humidity are perfect conditions for mildews.
>>752115610
80% RH is high but all these idiots lowering their humidity to the 40s aren't doing themselves favors.
>>752115822
Don't listen to this guy unless you want to fry all your terps the best players are using this formula.
>>752115305
>linking to one of my posts with three different posts to appear as 3 people
>not samefagging
Nigga what?
It's also kinda sad that you claim to be involved in large scale grows but post pics of nice buds you found on the Web to give your posts more credibility
>>752115565
Space next to the pot where no leafs would be anyway
You would want the wind to change directions anyways, a inline fan can't do that
>>752115610
>there is no way
Anon I do :^)
Oh and when the plants get bigger the fan runs at 9volt
>>752115782
>there are only 120mm fans
Why do you need more then one post to answer one of mine?
Shure you are not trying to samefag?
>>752115702
I'll try that, I have a Blue Mystic auto just starting to flower now. Before I was wet trimming but really only hang drying for a week before jarring. Was pretty impatient.
>>752116086
There's at least three people posting at you. All my posts have pictures, of buds that I've grown.
The larger computer fans create even less static pressure. I'm sure a 200mm computer fan at 9V is the shit...
>>752116086
Plants dont need winds to change direction,anon.It doesnt matter,the stem strengthens up just fine with wind from the same direction too.Its not like the wind will change direction from a fan in a 1.5x1.5m place.
Having a dedicated cycling fan would be good if you wanted to cover a whole room not just a tent.
>>752116086
this kid has never grown weed
>>752116240
Never wet trim. Just don't do it.
60F is ideal for terp preservation, and 60% is pretty much the highest humidity with some ventilation at 60F that wont cause rot, so if you temp goes higher you can adjust accordingly, if you want to go a couple points lower for safety go ahead. most people with VPD controlled drying rooms just dry in the aforementioned conditions in a dark area for 2 weeks.
>>752116396
I use a 140mm, there comes air out of my filter and it smells perfectly clear
Your pictures are from the Web
Please Nigga, the filenames alone are a clear give-off
Also there's just you and one other guy
>>752116396
No you are wrong
>>752116396
Im totally another guy than the other and you are wrong
Ive grown weed professionaly for the cartel in Columbia and everything you talk is shit
>>752116396
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
yeah a computer fan is gonna pull a decent sized grow and pull in enough intake and really clean the smell, yeah....
hahahahahahahahahaha
>>752116670
The pictures are from my imgur. I've posted them on /b/ hundreds of times.
I guess you've never grown sour jet fuel smelling weed that stinks up entire appartment complexes. I've been busted for growing even with a 420m3/h fan and filter. There's nothing a computer fan and a DIY filter would've done for the smell.
>>752116993
that's what I'm saying, a sucker using computer fans to ventilate a grow is telling everyone they shouldn't use inline fans because they consume "like 30 watts".
Fucking ridiculous.
Looks like you need to prune it and pinch it. Also looks like it might be lacking nitrogen. Maybe some eggshells would help since you are organic.
>>752117169
it is almost memeworthy lol
>>752117169
Can we just stop feeding him? Seriously hes either trolling or retarded and either eay we're the ones losing by arguing with him.
>>752117210
OP left a long time ago.
>>752117061
Then you did something horribly wrong
Where did I ever say something about diy filters?
Even a little bit of underpressure eliminates every possibility for smell to leak out completely, simple physics
>>752117061
>I may have got the pictures from the Internet but they are still totally mine xoxo, you can believe me
>>752117932
wtf
you must grow in pure oxygen lol
>>752117169
It's not because of the energy but because of the sound
But when your lamp uses 100 watt it still makes a major difference if your fan uses 30 or 3 watt
>>752118037
Please read into how fast photosynthesis works before spouting shit
>>752117996
yeah well, I don't have anything to prove. Deleted most of my pics after getting busted and haven't grown anything after that. Getting caught growing while on probation would be an instant ticket to prison.
>>752118222
100w is a very small grow, even with the highest efficiency LEDs like Quantum Boards. I guess you might be able to filter a grow that small with computer fans. Most people don't grow in that small of a scale. You probably should've said you're a micro grower in the first post.
>>752107355
pay attention
south africa is in the process of exterminating its white population
>>752106696
mix molasses with water and water your plants with it
helps with resin production
>>752118222
100 watt grow lmao this is a meme
>>752118632
This. For me my current grow of 9 LEC's and 3 600w HPS is the smallest grow I've ever had.
how do you flower plants with 100 watts? there is no penetration
>>752118982
i don't get why people do this when you can do 630 CMH and 750 Gavita, or is your ceiling too low for Gavita?
>>752119003
In a micro grow like his those things are irrelevant. If yielded was a concern he wouldn't be doing micro.
>>752119003
it's easily doable with micro growing. 100w of LEDs can grow 80 grams no problem, it's enough for personal use.
But even in a micro grow I'd use an acoustic inline fan and some acoustic ducting, more quiet than a computer fan.
>>752119155
it's not even yield anything below 300 - 400 watts in HID will also be lacking quality to one degree or another.
Jesus, those crystals look tasty.
I wish I had a chance at that, even it was one single small inhalation.
>>752119086
630w CMH isn't as good as two 315w CMHs. LECs are just another name for the 315w CMHs.
>>752119159
i can't imagine anything less than 225 - 250 watts in LED producing optimal quality either, hell actually I'm not even sure I believe what I'm saying about LED I think a watt is a watt, maybe quantum boards have a little advantage with gpw compared to traditional models but time will tell.
>>752119352
i realize that. actually i disagree. i think the double ended lights are more efficient as far as GPW and also cost, but to each his own
>>752118632
My box is about a third m^2
Look at the pic I replied too >>752109593
It is not a big grow, only a bit bigger than mine
I told I grow in small dimensions from the very start
>>752118923
It's enough to support myself and to smoke some blunts with friends, exactly what I want
No money for organised criminality from me
Also read led, they are much more energy efficient, even if some growers say they are not that good because of light spectrum my buds are horribly nice
>>752116396
God damn, weed is pretty
>>752119086
630 cmh is kind of a waste really. I've done par measurements and 315w cmh at 18"-24" above canopy is putting out equivalent light output to a 1000w DE like a a gavita at 3 feet above canopy. It covers a smaller are of course but within that are the par output is close to equal. 630 cmh with two bulbs in one socket puts out so much par at 18"-24" that you actually have to pull them farther away from the canopy. The problem with this is your till get the light degradation of a 315w bulb
Tl:Dr 630w cmh has diminishing returns over a single 315w cmh do to light intensity.
Also the 600w are in a different room than the LEC's. 750w habits was an option for me but I decided on the LEC instead as I've been seeing first hand the results they can produce. Also the lower amp draw, longer bulb life as well as more dispersed heat spread suits me.
>>752119717
i have no idea what you're talking about player people are running these with the philips 3100k bulbs and are pulling 2 units a light
>>752119572
>i think the double ended lights are more efficient as far as GPW
Actually the cmh bulbs are watt for watt every bit as efficient at PAR output as a double ended HID. I would have never gone with them otherwise. I have the benefit of being in the hydro equip many industry and I get to play with every piece of equipment you could dream of.
>>752119907
https://www.maximumyield.com/seeing-double-double-ended-high-pressure-sodium-hps-lighting/2/1258
you're wrong
>>752119834
I'm not saying they aren't. I personally would rather take the same wattage and cover a larger area. To each his own. There really is no right or wrong answer. CMH definitely has a bright future (no pun intended)
>>752119513
LED's make 10 times more light for the watt than typical lighting, typicall lighting produces far more warmth/ infrared light that's worthless and even a problem for growing
100 watt led makes my growroom much brighter than the brightest summer day
All my friends told me I grow top quality
>>752119159
Dunno, maybe my inline fan is just shit but I can't sleep well with that hellmachine on
The pc fan gave me back my lovely sleep
>>752120129
You're going to have me for saying this but as someone who works in the industry I have to inform you that magazines like maximum yield are no more than still advertising rags. Take everything you read with a grain of salt because this magazines will plrint anything as long as they get paid. There is literally zero integrity within the hydroponic equipment business. Every nutrient company rep I have ever met was more than willing to give me thousands of dollars worth of nudes if I will talk up their product or pen them a testimonial.
Having said that I've done the measurements myself as well as seen other less biased sources online do the measurements and cmh and DE HID are very much on the same level of par/watt.
>>752120359
I trried an LED and sold it as soon as the grow was over, it is not up to par with HID yet unless you're willing to drain your wallet. maybe the quantum boards are an exception, but i don't know, i'd never waste my time with one again. it is supplementary lighting at best currently.
>>752120507
I'm sorry for the wierd auto corrects going on in this post. Samsung's auto correct system is an abortion.
>>752120507
it's not that all the industry standard (you should know this) is hitting 2 - 3 a light off a 750 gavita. People who are doing these rdwc systems can even get higher, like 3 - 3.5
>>752120571
I've invested in a quality led panel that has LED's in different wavelengths to have a good spectrum coverage
>>752120700
Yes, for large scale grows the DE HID will be king for the foreseeable future. Yield per light varies greatly depending where in the country you are. West coast grows yield far more than mid West grows which I chalk up to the west coast having a much better genetics pool as well as an extra 10 years of legal growing experience. The mid west and east coast tend to get the genetic scraps and are consistently hitting 2/light with an rdwc.
>>752121077
Jungle Boys hit 3.25 - 3.75 a light with their 750 Gavitas, and lately they are investing in the 630 CMH.
a 4x4 and some MH/HPS is all you need really. Also weed advice on the web is usually horrible, go get a proper grow book and study the shit out of it. You should be able to tell by the retards posting here a lot of people like to grow weed but not a lot of people can actually grow weed.
>>752121277
I really dont care about the jungle boys and i dont get why anyone else does either. People treat them with god like status but how do yiu know anything they say is true? Again having been in the in the industry for the better part of 10 years and i see how lousy the industry is with paid shills. I dont believe anyone when they have a vested interest in promoting things. You cant believe anything at face value. If i cant see it and verify it with my own two eyes i dont believe it. Keep in mind that the jungle boys run a high end paid consulting business so it is way in their interest to promote themselves as amazing growers.
>>752121865
found @komathegrower lol
i know you're mad about the situation but stick to the facts that they pull weight
>>752121865
this so many lying/shit head stoners out there in the industry only in it for themselves, I believe shit when I see it myself. Its like watching someones rosin extract video and thinking you gotta get their press because thats the one they suggest/hype.
>>752122091
I have no idea who gour talking about. I dont follow marijuana industry personalities. Plenty of people pull weight everywhere in the country but not everyone is pimping out their name on merchandise at every opportunity. They have created themselves a brand and they will do everything they can to promote that brand. That makes them a very unreliable and biased source of information.
>>752122280
their brand? you're missing on a lot of things.
their grow style is transparent, you can mimic it yourself if you want.
do you think it's BS that they pull those numbers from SOG in RDWC, grow almost all tops, at an even canopy? i don't, because people in soil are pulling numbers not too far off.
>>752122280
Sounds like you sample too much of your product.
>>752122439
Like i said i dont believe anything i cant verify with my own two eyes. Way to much bullshittery in this business. Do i think its impossible? Of course not. But do i think they are a reliable source of info? No i dont. Again they have a vested intrest in promoting their brand. I have no use for them.
>>752122471
maybe it's coated in Avid and Green Cleaner
>>752122817
Tons of nobodies pull these numbers without PGRs, I can already tell your yields are mediocre because you're acting like this is "out there" or something.
>>752119647
get a load of this faggot
>>752122817
Me again.
Want to know the most fucked up and hard to believe thing ive found in this business?
Advanced nutrients is the one company that has never offered me free product in exchange for promotion.
>>752122981
advanced nutrients is so lame, guy is snorting blow off hookers asses with every bottle you buy
>>752122941
Im not saying thise yields cant be oulled or even that theyre uncommon on tge west coast. Im simplu saying that as a comlany and brand their information is always suspect because they have a brand. That brand needs to make them money. Its like taking samsungs word that their phone is the best phone. Of course you wouldnt take them seriously because its in samsungs best interest to tell everyone they're the best.
>>752123180
Hate to break it to you but as someone who gets flown to vegas every year for industry events i can tell you that all these guys are doing coke with your money. The can filter guys are insane!
>>752123242
What you're saying could be true but you're acting like there are no businesses who build their brand on honesty or quality.
>>752123354
yeah quite a bit, you forgot all these people spending their harvest on oxy pills lol
>>752123499
Its a business. They are in business to make money. Integrity doesnt generate profits. Im trying really hard to think of a company in the industry that i can honestly say has integrity and im coming up blank.
Do any of you guys extract?
I want to extract at home now with Ethanol since it's now legal to do so in California as of recently.
Can I get away with spreading the slab super thin before I purge it? Or do I need a rotovap?
I would guess you can chill your stuff in liquid nitrogen too. Butane and ISO are still not allowed or anything super explosive.
>>752123836
The fact they grow commercially and consistently test clean cannot said for 99% of commercial growers in California, most people are spraying Avid, Eagle 20, Forbid, etc.
>>752124046
I wont argue with you there so long as their testing is legitimate. Again im not saying it isnt but if they adverrise who they test through then there is the possibility of quid pro quo. You give us clean tests and we advertise your business to a huge audiance of your potential customers. Not saying thats what theyre doing but if they advertise who they test with it is possible.
>>752123960
imo dont use ethanol except for something like reclaim, you will get very little terpene content using ethanol. I would either make a rosin press out of a hand clamp and a hair straightener or maybe make ice hash with trim or something. Solventless is the way to go imo especially if you don't have something like a nice closed loop butane system which is the next best thing to proper a rosin press imo but a no go for obvious reasons.
Also ethanol is technically about as volatile as Isopropyl. Dont use ispropyl either though because it never fully purges even at temps that would purge out THC. There is a reason you never see it on the market.
The JB also "now" offer consultation services for which don't come cheap. But is an insanely smart buisness move they'll give u just enough info to be 90% successful like them but never 100% it will allow them to dictate what and how to grow "good weed" ... Consultation services/ designer seeds/ and extract labs seem to be a good market to be homing in on just my thoughts
>>752124450
As of yet all the major labs people have tested their product through goes clean. They are going for a license so they will have to test clean regardless. I can say because I've dabbed their stuff it does not seem like they are making up for it by spraying Azamax or cinnamon oil on buds or anything stupid like that, I think they just use the regalia and grandevo products with predators and fight anything they need to early on.
>>752125035
If their is inedendant testng then that satisfies my scepticism.
>>752124551
this isn't true people are making ethanol extracts with rotovaps that you can hardly tell the difference from a single solvent extract.
>>752124558
their oil is fantastic. i grow but love buying some of their fire sauce / live resin / some nug runs when they got em on occasion. never notice any diarrhea headache weed when i pick up from them ever.
>>752125233
ethanol 100% results in less terpene content its science you numbskull. Go read up on this stuff.
>>752125421
dude you're 500% wrong what do you think it's extracting? only the cannabinoids?
experimental dwc from last last year.
>>752125605
what are you even arguing? Clearly I understand ethanol is a solvent, all I'm saying is the terpene content compared to other solvent that results from it is negligible and makes it not a very great solvent for extraction. I've personally never even seen an ethanol based extract in a rec store.
>>752126156
Canopy looks great.
Holy shit the dumbassery in this thread.
>>752126474
Why do you think the terpene content is negligible? It's not, when you extract it, it's all there, it's the golden resin you're used to on the first cold wash especially.
The question is how you purge afterwards. If you stick it in an oven in a thick slab as I was discussing earlier, yes, you would have to purge it so hot the terps would evaporate. However if you spread a slab ultra thin, you don't have to run temps very hot. It's even easier in a rotovap because you can use minimal temps and have the "bubbles" pop upon rotation. I was trying to see if I can get away without it.
Dispensaries do it because it's easier with isobutane / propane mixture on a large scale on a controlled setting.
For someone at home, an ethanol extraction is a decent option if done right.
>>752126474
>>752126775
and also if you don't care about terps it is awesome for a fast extraction for RSO on large amounts of material.
>>752126775
>>752126873
>RSO
Ok so you are just retarded...
>>752126904
>says a dumb comment without any explanation
typical. what's wrong with RSO?
>>752126775
also enjoy dabbing unpurged ethanol
>>752127151
you're saying idiotic comments like you're 100 years behind. your ethanol will purge if spread thin and what the hell do you think a rotovap is for? i think you're still jacking off in your mom's basement with your shitty open blast tube with a can of Power 5. you must be like 10 years behind.
>>752120359
>100w blurple LED with computer fans for
ventilation
>top quality
Don't you mean top kek quality?
>>752127324
lmao ethanol never entirely purges just like isopropyl I can tell you enjoy smoking it. Maybe if you would read up on this shit you would realize your method isn't doing jack shit. You are pulling these assumptions about purging out of your ass or some other stoners ass.
>>752127533
Maybe outside of vac you're correct or if you're doing subpar purging methods. Kid people have these systems and purge these extracts all day long, you're behind. Keep smoking your mystery oils and pentane.
>>752127658
you are quite thick my original suggestion was to go solventless, please educate yourself about these things before you inevitabley become some medical anomaly in the future, but then again you seem like a darwin award waiting to happen.
>>752127878
do a search on #EHO then go KYS kid
i already do solventless i'm not retarded i'm looking for other options now this is legal, now shut up and quit telling me what to do. you obviously have no knowledge on this type of extraction
>>752128061
>KYS kid
I mean I'm not the one smoking ethanol under some retarded assumption a vac purge is enough...
>>752128175
>has never heard of a rotovap
>never heard of spreading a slab thin
now go cut off your dick
>>752128259
you are so missing the fundamentals its hilarious, please keep posting buttmad posts.
$1000 question :
Was this oil made with hydrocarbons or ethanol?
>>752128344
i'm about to make you look fucking retarded because you have your head pulled so far up your own ass
>>752128731
you seem kinda upset anon
>>752128844
not really kid you just lost, keep smoking your poop soup
>>752128951
well good thing im not dabbing your stuff :)
>>752128344
I make poopy in my pants
>>752129058
Wheres your oil at?
You are memeworthy. You worry about under detection levels PPM of ethanol extracts, but i bet you hit eagle 20 and Avid all day long, and the byproducts of your canned butane
>>752129440
why are you this triggered?
